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[0:12] Jesse Mackadally: Hello, I'm Jesse Mackadally and welcome to a bonus episode of Musicals with Cheese where we're gonna be talking about our Kickstarter currently running for the film Daughters of the Domino.

[0:22] Gloria Koehler: And today I'm joined by my wonderful producer of the film, Gloria Koehler.

[0:26] Jesse Mackadally: How are you doing today, Gloria?

[0:27] Gloria Koehler: Hi, I'm doing great.

[0:29] Gloria Koehler: I'm doing great. Super excited.

[0:31] Jesse Mackadally: We gotta pretend like you didn't just like get three hours of sleep and that we're on equal energy right now.

[0:39] Gloria Koehler: Oh, I didn't know that we'd be giving all of that information.

[0:42] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah. You know, night shoots are night shoots and you have to be up all night and then you know, you've got to also be the person making sure the train's going, so you gotta be the person with all the energy the entire time.

[0:56] Gloria Koehler: So I mean, if there's anyone to do it, I'm glad it's you because you make sure everything happens.

[1:01] Jesse Mackadally: So let's pretend the people that listen to this don't know exactly what a producer does, because they're in the theater world and they don't. Producers are basically just the ones that write the check in the theater world. Whereas in the film world, they have an actual creative production side role.

[1:19] Gloria Koehler: So, uh, pretend I'm your grandmother and you have to explain to me what a producer is.

[1:24] Gloria Koehler: Okay, so um, it's a lot of logistics. It's the prep, it's the planning, it's the execution, it's making sure the trains moving towards, you know, the end goal, which is having a fully edited film, and then that's been distributed, that's been already marketed, so you've gotta think of long run for everything. There's a long run for um, you know, your actual shoot days. Of course, there's like a shooting schedule, but then there's like a larger production schedule, which goes up to like casting, deadlines, locations, payments being in, vendors booked. I mean, it can go through everything in money management. So um, it's just a lot to juggle, but it's uh a lot of collaboration. You're a communicator and you're there to find creative solutions and support your director and your creative team.

[2:12] Gloria Koehler: Yeah, so I've always referred to them as like the set mom, or the set dad, or the set parent. Um, the one that is trying to keep a hands-off approach, but will lend a gentle hand to where you need to be.

[2:26] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah, yeah. Um, but now as a more deeper question, who are you, Miss Gloria Koehler? Um, if you have to introduce yourself to the world, who are you?

[2:36] Gloria Koehler: Um, well, I'm, I'm I don't know. I don't know exactly how to even say that. Uh, I'm a woman, I'm a filmmaker, um, I'm focused. Um, I have a lot of goals and a lot of long-term stretches. I plan out my life kind of like a film, but allow a lot of creative leeway wherever I would like. Um, because I'm impulsive, but I'm the kind of planning impulsive. So think of an idea and then I let that sit with me and then kind of take it and run if it can go there. That's how I moved to Cali so fast. It's how um, and a lot of reasons why I just keep getting hired, it's because you know, I just keep going. Um, and I set a goal and I set my mind to it. I just keep going. Um, when there's a will, there's a way. If you can't find a way, you don't have the will, which is fine. No one needs the will to do everything. Um, but don't say there's not a way because someone will find a way.

[3:35] Jesse Mackadally: Fantastic. I don't know if that answered the question.

[3:37] Gloria Koehler: No, that answered the question. Ideally, uh, we all want. Um, a lot more metaphysical, but I kind of prefer that because that's my vibe.

[3:45] Jesse Mackadally: Um, so people are coming to donate to this film, Daughters of the Domino. As we were recording this, um, it'll be in a different space from when this is released. We're recording this on like the third day that it of its uh run on Kickstarter. It's been doing pretty well um at this point, but how would you pitch the film to people just coming in to hear and just wanting to listen? And also, what made you decide you wanted to hop onto this?

[4:13] Gloria Koehler: Um, well, the reason to hop onto it is always you, Jesse. Um, you're an incredible director and creative, and um, I'd love to be a part of any project you do. Um, so that's always a big reason for me. Another big reason is um, this would be my first feature film I'm producing. I've um produced a couple of TV series and shorts and I've had some collaborative teams with it. I've done it solo. Um, so this is the first time I'm doing it. It's a feature, and I'd rather work with someone who genuinely is um collaborative and has a creative vision that they gonna stick to and then that's theirs. Um, so they're true to their own creativity too. They won't just bend to anybody's idea, um, because they've thought about this a lot.

Um, so that's always the reason why, um, and I want my first feature film to be in a collaborative mindset and have this positive energy to it and just push and drive forward, and I know the time difference is a little difficult, but we are honestly making it work pretty well up to this point.

[5:16] Gloria Koehler: Um, for c I want people to know we kind of had like a baby test run for how our producing directing relationship is going to be, and I had a blast doing it. But the Kickstarter video, um, there was about three variations of that, and you get to the one we're at today. And thankfully, my producer gave really good notes. Um, very direct, very curt, very not sugarcoating notes, which is what you need as a creative. I I'm not trying to say this to like just blow smoke up your ass, sincerely. Guys, if you want someone who'll tell your shit that it's trash, then hire her, is what I'm hearing.

[5:54] Gloria Koehler: No, because you were right. Um, you gave very good notes, and while I found my own way around to get to what we needed to be, you gave notes and I addressed them, I feel like.

[6:07] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah, I mean well, you definitely, definitely. And I definitely feel like it was a big um show of what our collaborative effort could be. Um, and it's it's nice to actually get that kind of collaboration because sometimes um, not saying everybody, um, but some is but some directors uh who who are also writers and then um go forward in their own um in their own production and their own art. Um, it's it's like a my way the highway. I've thought it all out, it's only mine. And like you're very much you're you're like that in some sense for the creative because you've created these characters and you're true to the characters that they are, and you want to make sure that their lines and everything that we went through when we were first reading the finalized script, like you you supported it.

And it was I I mainly just had questions of like, have you thought about this and this? I was you know, trying to find if there would be and could be any holes in the storyline at all, or character development. I was trying to find those, and then you would you just like filled in those spaces. So you thought about it and you'd be like, oh no, I'm gonna show that's like cinematically like this.

[7:10] Gloria Koehler: Um, so that's really cool. I like how you're trying to talk around it because of spoilers. We had a big trouble when me and Nathan recorded it when we're like, How are we gonna talk about this? How are we gonna do this?

[7:21] Jesse Mackadally: Oh, I oh yeah. I I won't give anything away. I won't give anything away because obviously you guys should like you know help fund it and everyone should um support us by watching it when it is finally made, um, because it's an incredible story. Um, but that's that's why I really like working with you too. And uh you took you took just some of the notes from the marketing aspect, which I I tend to do very well with in the marketing world. I do work in commercials full-time right now. Um, but I just tend to do really well with it and and push with that. And um, it's it's nice to have someone like receive your notes and and fully receive it and absorb them and then and then still put them to to good use creatively in their own way too. Um, so that's so that's really cool because you know, you're a great collaborator, so that's obviously why um why I love working with you.

[8:10] Gloria Koehler: And then for this script, we had gone through a couple different versions of scripts of this of this project in the past few years. And um, I was interested from the get-go, just of the main character, um, because there's such a um I always say this intense character. Yeah, just as a person, and there's so much like development, you know.

[8:34] Jesse Mackadally: Okay, so what a lot of people lack, I feel like in in writing these days and in film writing is when they're writing something, they they write a character, and you can tell it's a character. They don't write a human that's had an entire life and a backstory and thoughts, hopes, fears, dreams, either shattered or built up or destroyed, or or elevated and and or lifted entirely, you know. So there's there's a human behind every one of your characters, and you could see it from Detective Rose from the very beginning. As as many variations as the script has gone through, that has stayed true, and that all of the other characters started gaining more and more of their own human um human development, I guess you could say, as as you know, we've gotten to the final script block, which is yeah, it's it's a great story.

I mean, always I'm always into watching like a female protagonist, absolutely. But you know, everyone's got trauma, so it's really nice to see, you know, some of that come out and actually you get to see like real life for a second.

[9:39] Gloria Koehler: I agree, but it's also like we we talk about the trauma and all that, and that is a part of the narrative, but it's a fun movie too. Like that's the big thing. We want people to come I I peep someone asked me today, like, how would you describe it? Because I know you've made stuff like Lu Chica that's kind of weird, like how scale of one to ten, how weird is it? I'm like, it's about a six, it's a real crowd pleaser. I think it's a crowd pleasing film to be honest.

[10:01] Gloria Koehler: Definitely. Oh my god. And that's and that's the thing, it's like it's it even like it's a fun film because like, yeah, it's got that it's got that depth, so it's got that character development, but then like your ideas for the actual cinematography of it all, it being very like classy, and you can totally tell even on the Kickstarter, like if anyone's like listening, you know, like you guys should literally look at the Kickstarter. It breaks it all down. This nerd made like cards of our bases for everything. This is all like it's so classy. It's like you're thrown back into time with this like old aesthetic, but it's modern, and then it's it's like actual real life modern problems too. And and then there's like, you know, the the jokes and and laughter and hints and it's it's all great.

It's it's gonna be it's gonna be really, really good. Um and that's and I think that actually like hits several markets right there because I mean female protagonists, of course, and it's not like you're trying to hit markets, that's just an incredible story. It's just how the narrative fell together.

[11:03] Jesse Mackadally: And which is I mean, that's a perfect thing. Yeah, you hit several markets as like the like term you could use, but like in reality what we're saying is like everyone could enjoy this film, like everyone. So I mean, if you don't like good films, then you might not put bad movies.

[11:17] Gloria Koehler: I guess I guess you might not enjoy it.

[11:19] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah, then by all means, please finish watching shows. Like, I don't know.

[11:24] Gloria Koehler: Um, so it's yeah, that's I think I answered all the questions. Um, and while we this is the first time you're working as a producer with me. This is not your first time working with me. You were the wonderful casting director for Lu Chica and you did an amazing job. And if you've seen that movie, you will just know like those actors are killing it and they're a part of the tapestry that makes that like my favorite thing I've ever done up to this point.

[11:48] Gloria Koehler: Yeah. I mean it's it's a that's a very cool story too, 'cause like when you when we talked about the premise of it, it was just like, what is this guy wanna make? Like I was like, this is weird. I'm a little no well, yeah, but I like it. And I like I like different weird things. So it's like I I gained a bit of a reputation of of I just I can find things. Like it's just one phone call. It takes one phone call, it can be a person, place, thing, very specific item, very specific actor, like and and you're just like, so it's it's uh it's an opera short, but not really because it's a silently and we're gonna like put everything the music over it back like over it. So like we're not actually running so mainly just like I'm like this kid, okay.

And then you know, as as we continued our relationship and you continued like telling me more and more and more about the characters and and allowing me to to ask as many questions as I do because I will say it over and over, God knows I ask a lot of questions. Um and it I mean your brain, it's an odd one, it's wonderful. It's it's great, and it turned out awesome.

[12:52] Gloria Koehler: It turned out so cool. You can see like I mean, I I think what what you were saying about every step of of the vision and the characters will be able to emanate that was awesome. Awesome. And I think it's a better thing to it's easy to watch that and think, oh, this is a fully formed thing than to try to pitch it as individual ideas as you're making it. I think you watch it and it makes sense, but trying to get people on for like oh no, wait, hold on, guys, listen to this.

[13:20] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah. Um when you have nothing, you have no opera music, you have but pro I promise you it'll be there. So it takes a lot of trust. Um I I guess I that is a discovery I'm making that it requires a lot of trust in a director to be able to pitch you what exactly you're supposed to see.

[13:39] Gloria Koehler: Um, so with this film coming out, we are doing this Kickstarter, which so far we are doing pretty okay. Um, I won't say we're like gangbusters doing great, but we're doing pretty good. If we keep up at the pace we're going, we will probably hit our goal. But that is all up to you guys. Um sincerely. I do want to go on to the Kickstarter real quick and talk about some of the new people since the last time I recorded, um, that have joined on, and I want to give them personal thanks.

[14:10] Jesse Mackadally: If you don't hear your name or you heard your name in the last one, uh just for time's sake, 'cause I got more questions for Gloria, I'm just gonna skip y'all.

[14:17] Jesse Mackadally: Um listen to the last episode, you'll hear those.

[14:19] Jesse Mackadally: So I do want to personally bring up um folks like Mark Phillips, Vicky and Mark Barrish, Norm Killip, Liz and Jenna Barish who all have donated into like the hundreds of dollars toward this within the last four hours since I last recorded.

[14:34] Jesse Mackadally: So it's been a pretty sizable amount of folks jumping on board and trying to support this. And I'm grateful for each and every one of you.

[14:42] Jesse Mackadally: Gloria, how would you try to get people to join this Kickstarter if you just bumped into them on the street?

[14:47] Gloria Koehler: Um, honestly, it would be just going telling them about the film. I mean the premise of it, I even what I just explained, like it's there and it's an incredible story. It's in a modern story, and then having it had such a classy look just brings in that aesthetic that I mean it's throws us back, you know. And we're we're not even that old. Like um it's it's timeless. Very classy.

[15:13] Gloria Koehler: Exactly. It's so timeless. I mean, and to be able to see something like that in that way, um, I think that would be the biggest one. The biggest push to have people at least look at the Kickstarter. Just give two minutes of your time and just look at it, read it, read the premises. Um Read through the rewards. There's some cool rewards that you get out of it.

[15:35] Gloria Koehler: Rewards are awesome. The rewards are awesome, guys. And it's people are already getting the blu rays that don't exist. Like that's the one the movie doesn't exist and they want the blu rays.

[15:44] Gloria Koehler: Yeah, it's like and and and that's the thing too, is like uh we we're so excited to push and make it and we just wanna make sure that we can make it the best we can. Um and and honestly, we can't do that without without at least a little help. Even five dollars can go a long way, like twenty-five people donating five dollars, it's still like a decent amount of money we can put towards something.

[16:04] Gloria Koehler: Um I will like to remind you that this is an all or nothing campaign. So we either hit twenty thousand or we get none of it. So we're gonna keep on pushing you. I know you're probably getting getting annoyed at by me on Twitter. I don't care. We'll just let's let's get it done. I'm gonna keep being in your ear, and then I promise on November 4th, I'll be quiet for a bit.

[16:25] Jesse Mackadally: Just for a bit.

[16:26] Gloria Koehler: Yeah, there you go. I'm a very loud man in general.

[16:31] Jesse Mackadally: This is true.

[16:33] Jesse Mackadally: So Gloria, what will be next? Like what I think people and I tend to overlook this side of it, which is probably because I'm just a creative person rather than a structural person. Let's just say we hit the Kickstarter goal. When do we start production and when should people be expecting their rewards, so to say? Like if they get the Blu-ray, when when do you think we should be hitting those marks?

[16:55] Gloria Koehler: Well, I think it honestly depends on because a lot of people just in general, when you're when you're doing a crowdfunding campaign like we are right now, um, it's gonna really depend on how you uh kick start. Like you actually get off, you know, and um and the fact that we've had like a decent amount of people um donate and pledge so far, that really does show that we're getting momentum and that we're we're being able to progress.

[17:21] Gloria Koehler: So a lot of people will hold on to their pledges and and won't pledge just yet until they see how well it's doing because they won't invest their own money until they see that other people are willing to invest their squalls. So um with us having gotten a decent amount of our goals so far, um, at least at least for only being in for you know a few days, it's not bad at all. Um it's we're looking to to project up.

[17:45] Gloria Koehler: So I think I think we may hit our mark. And um I say that so hesitantly because I grew up in theater and I'm not about to drink shit.

[17:53] Jesse Mackadally: So yeah you're not gonna say Macbeth tonight.

[17:56] Gloria Koehler: No. It's like oh people who don't believe in the superstitious I'm like what do you do with your life? Like you just walk around with no anxiety, who are you? Like But this is but for real though um so so we're looking like we're going up decently well and I know I'm I'm trying to get the word out as much as I possibly can and of course I plan on um pledging as well so I'm going to make sure I'm sliding in right before we close out.

[18:19] Gloria Koehler: So yes um we're gonna see how this all plays out but to the people that have donated to the people that are planning to donate um thank you in advance for all your dedication and for believing in this project. I swear even people that haven't donated have just been like I I want to see this movie. I literally got a message from someone I haven't spoken to in ten years that said I just watched a video and it's not like a movie I wanted to see so here's money.

[18:44] Gloria Koehler: And I'm like that's that's it. That's that's what we want. That's that's that's just believe in us guys we'll do it. I promise it'll look great. You'll enjoy it um it won't no matter what it won't be as bad as the room.

[18:59] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah well like yeah that's true.

[19:01] Gloria Koehler: And it would take a l it would actually take more compare yourself to the words though.

[19:06] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah literally so come on it would take a lot more effort to make a bad movie than a watchable one. I think the most frustrating thing even with the room is like people don't understand how much or people don't always understand how much money goes into well film and film production in general but even like shorts and and even films like I mean the room millions of dollars wasted at least six million dollars.

[19:31] Gloria Koehler: Especially and did you know that they shot that on digital and thirty five millimeter at the same time on one rig. That's just money down the drain. Why? I don't know.

[19:39] Jesse Mackadally: It's like yeah. So it's just like it's so frustrating to see sometimes like people who don't worry not worry about money but um are aren't as familiar with with like the money struggles in in getting their own projects funded because there'll be like a bunch of rich people who've already had like their name and a bunch of stuff say, Hey I wanna do something so people just hand them couple million dollars and say go play you know like it's and so that's why projects like this are a little bit more difficult to get off the ground because we're we're not any huge significant names.

[20:13] Gloria Koehler: I mean like n not even the closest. So we're we're just trying to even just make a good project and a good film that we think people will enjoy and that of course we're gonna have fun milk like filmmaking too. So um that's why we really just want an and our constant push and um to get people on board is is we we might not be able to make like the film as good as we know we could if we don't get your help.

[20:40] Gloria Koehler: Um which is you know why we even say just even five dollars can add up if if you know just the simple five.

[20:46] Jesse Mackadally: Mm-hmm.

[20:47] Gloria Koehler: And I get that times are tough. Um so even if you can't donate, even sharing it with like your rich uncle or something that that'd be great. Everyone's got that one rich uncle that's like sleeping under a pile of money like we all have that one.

[21:02] Jesse Mackadally: And he's not giving that money.

[21:03] Gloria Koehler: He he could use it to make a movie. He could literally put there there's like a free produ well not free. There's a paid producer credit on this thing where you can be listed as one of the like the executive producers.

[21:14] Jesse Mackadally: So yeah, yeah.

[21:15] Gloria Koehler: And I know plenty of people who make that much money in like a week, a day. So it's yeah.

[21:22] Gloria Koehler: Um yeah any any kind of hope helps and um ultimately the project is gonna be awesome.

[21:28] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah.

[21:28] Jesse Mackadally: We're gonna end on a positive here, Gloria. Um before before all that. What are you most excited about? Because no matter what this film's we're gonna make this film. It's gonna be a good time. Um that's why I'm going, I'm thinking positive. Um what are you most excited for?

[21:42] Gloria Koehler: Um I I'm a I'm a producer and I've got a producer's mind sure, but I you know I A D right now and I continue to A D and I've AD for a minute so shooting is always my my favorite part. You know, you're right in it and you guys are bonding and you guys are working towards a common goal and yeah we finally got that shot let's move on to this next bit like art department getting into it and and the you know the actors really like watching their last take and they're just like I love that that looks so cool and they were like honestly because the energy of a good set can can uplift any day.

[22:15] Gloria Koehler: Um and there's a lot of days on set where like you know it's it's a long day it's a little frustrating we've done the you know the take a few times I mean probably not with you as it's a director Justin but we've done it a few million times and and we just haven't nailed everything at once and you know and and there are some frustrations but um shooting is is such a bonding experience and I'm sure I mean I I did theater since I was two. I climbed up on stage and refused to get off as the tale is told but um so I've I've been in theater and that was the funnest part was you know how week.

[22:49] Gloria Koehler: Everyone's like, oh how week's gonna suck. And I'm just like, Well week's my favorite. Like we all get to see each see each other every single day and rehearse the show a million times. Let's do it. Like I'm so excited. Um and so of course that's my same thing with film, like shoot days. I love the shoot days. That's gonna be so much fun to me.

[23:04] Gloria Koehler: Um I haven't talked to you about this yet, Jesse, but I really, really, really wanna make sure we get a lot of PTS. And of course I know you've already thought about it too, but I have that set up already.

[23:17] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah, okay, okay.

[23:18] Gloria Koehler: Because that's also uh a rec a thing that's happening in our Kickstarter when no matter what we have to give them BTS.

[23:26] Jesse Mackadally: Well yes, but I have like a few ideas too. So it's like layers. Anyway.

[23:30] Gloria Koehler: Um well enjoy this podcast production meeting right now. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for joining us. Um, but like it is it is so much fun uh for me and and the BTS photos and videos can always show like what and a l a snippet of what that experience is like being a part of a filmmaker.

[23:49] Gloria Koehler: And I think part of um what our Kickstarter was so cool when we were talking about it was that um the BTS that we're gonna take, we want to be giving people like weekend updates, you know? Like weekend updates. This is what we shot, this is what's happening, this is and we'll you know, um and anybody who who picked that perk um can see it and Yeah, we want people to know that we're doing things and what's going on and because of the way uh that we have to shoot this film, like it's very easy to send you guys stuff.

[24:19] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah, yeah.

[24:21] Gloria Koehler: And then yeah. So that's that's another thing too, is um I'm I'm always excited for that and and being able to show I'm I'm from a f like family, they're not really in film. Uh knowing about film, I you know, I'll try to tell 'em, but you know, some people have their interest, some people don't um have their interest in it. So um I'm I'm the only person in my family who does it.

[24:43] Gloria Koehler: So it's it's always really cool to me to to be able to give that outlet to other people who aren't in this industry full time or uh don't get to work in this industry at all. See a little snippet of what it's like to be here because um it's it's a fun time and it is we're all weird and goofy and it's great. But let's not paint it. It is work.

[25:01] Jesse Mackadally: Like you know what the one thing I'm not looking forward to for this entire shoot.

[25:07] Gloria Koehler: What?

[25:08] Jesse Mackadally: The first day. The first day is always like the worst day where you're gonna have to figure things out. The second day is always the best day of your life and it gets better and better.

[25:17] Gloria Koehler: Yeah because you you know how everything goes you know the politics you know the set the first day is always like it's the first day of school it's gonna be rough.

[25:25] Jesse Mackadally: Yeah but once you get past that it's a blast.

[25:27] Gloria Koehler: Definitely yeah um Gloria, you are a wonderful human being I'm very lucky to know you. I'm even luckier to get to work with you. You have social medias and I want people to go and find them. So why don't you promote them for the world.

[25:39] Gloria Koehler: Oh my uh Instagram is Gloria underscore color underscore pro. I think production professional proactive I'm insane I know.

[25:49] Gloria Koehler: Um and then my uh Facebook is just Glory Kohler. You can follow me on Twitter if you want, but um gonna warn you it's basically just for uh me to be a really hardcore Taylor Swift fan.

[26:01] Jesse Mackadally: Um but it's great.

[26:02] Gloria Koehler: So follow her not underscore a underscore natural ninety eight um it's really this is me trying the song. She's like I've never been a natural all I do is try try trying and I've always really related to that line.

[26:16] Jesse Mackadally: You would be promo I'm so sorry.

[26:19] Gloria Koehler: You would be surprised how much overlap with Tate Taylor Swift fans and musical theater fans there are. So I'm glad I know you know.

[26:24] Jesse Mackadally: There's a lot of them.

[26:27] Gloria Koehler: Um I love Taylor try and follow me. I I'm a I'm a little detective. I always find the Easter eggs and then I post them, and then no one sees them, and then when they come true, I'm like, God, I told you.

[26:37] Jesse Mackadally: I mean, I mean the real murderer here is Taylor Swift herself putting all these quizzes on her flipping Instagram and whatnot.

[26:47] Gloria Koehler: Her her brain. She literally released a song last night, or um, since we've recorded it, Karma. And she's been hinting at karma being a song and or album for like three years now. And we've all thought we were crazy, and we're not crazy, so that's nice to know. We're not crazy.

[27:05] Jesse Mackadally: Um the the that should be a that sounds like a Taylor Swift album.

[27:08] Gloria Koehler: We're not crazy.

[27:13] Jesse Mackadally: And we'll see you guys next week. But please check out our Kickstarter.

[27:17] Gloria Koehler: Donate to our Kickstarter, god damn it.

[27:20] Jesse Mackadally: Do it. I know where you live.

[27:21] Gloria Koehler: I know where you have money.

[27:22] Jesse Mackadally: We're gonna push up against the lockers and ask for your lunch money.

[27:25] Gloria Koehler: Let's go.

[27:26] Jesse Mackadally: Put it right into my Kickstarter.

[27:27] Gloria Koehler: Oh, look at the police.

[27:30] Jesse Mackadally: Don't make me bully you.

[27:32] Gloria Koehler: I know where you live.

[27:35] Jesse Mackadally: Thank you, Cordo.