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[0:05] Robert Bannon: Are you ready? It's the Roundtable with me, Robert Bannon. Oh, good lord in heaven. It's another award show season, and you America loves awards. We give everyone an award. You get an award and you get an award and you get an award, and the Golden Globes were here. And the Golden Globes are the most fun award show in the whole entire, well, maybe not this year. They weren't fun. But you know, in the past, they've been fun. My name is Robert Bannon. You're here at the Roundtable. I hope you listen to our predictions. We gave our predictions. We didn't do terrible. And I was with Adrian Garzillo, who is my award show cousin extraordinaire who is obsessed with award shows, and she threw a party at her house, and we went and we ate tacos and we ate pretzels and we had M&Ms and we watched the show. Adrian, welcome to the Roundtable again.

[0:53] Adrian Garzillo: Hello, everyone. Hello, Robert. Thank you so much for having me back. I do appreciate it. And yes, I like award show extraordinaire. Yes, I do enjoy a good award show. Yes, yes, and there are many of them coming. And we are going to walk you through the awards season this year. If it's Critics Choice and the Emmys next week. So this end of this week. So join us for another Roundtable at the end of this week and a recap next week and the SAG Awards and the Oscars and the Grammys and the Gardening Awards and the best pig in show and whatever the hell else they put on television nowadays. We give awards for every, we'll have the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.

[1:31] Robert Bannon: Oh yes. Oh, the MTV Movie Awards, all that good stuff. Right. The shows that I don't watch.

[1:36] Adrian Garzillo: Hey, yes. It's a big hot topic. I mean, I've seen it. TMZ did a story. Twitter did a story, not that I read Twitter.

[1:45] Robert Bannon: Adrian reads Twitter, but I don't read Twitter. I boycott the ex-Twitter. Um, whatever the hell it's called. Ugh, I'm on it just to see what they say.

[1:56] Adrian Garzillo: And then I, yeah. Um, I prefer th, I don't prefer threads is better, but yeah, I'm still there.

[2:02] Robert Bannon: I'm on threads, but I don't, well, you know, I don't TikTok either. A's loves the social media. So my point of the story is Kat Williams and Adrian, the Hollywood Forum Press showed up and out last night at the Beverly Hills Hilton, which I stayed at the Beverly Hills Hilton before.

[2:20] Adrian Garzillo: I know, I'm jealous.

[2:21] Robert Bannon: It's lovely. There's a bar downstairs that is very nice and very wood oaky, and it's a little old-fashioned there. And I saw Sharon Osbourne shopping in the lobby, but that's besides the point. Jo Koy was the host, and Adrian is a Jo Koy fan. She has seen Jo Koy, she has gone to his shows.

[2:42] Adrian Garzillo: Many, many of his shows, yes.

[2:42] Robert Bannon: What did you think of the Koy?

[2:47] Adrian Garzillo: I was excited when I first heard, which wasn't that long ago, that he was the host, and I said, "Oh, well, good for him." Something different, because he pretty much does stand-up. He did do a movie last year, Easter something.

[3:03] Robert Bannon: Okay.

[3:04] Adrian Garzillo: I'll watch five minutes.

[3:07] Robert Bannon: I was disappointed.

[3:09] Adrian Garzillo: Same.

[3:10] Robert Bannon: I was disappointed. But you know what really disappointed me more than anything? I think it is a tough job, I'm sure for whoever has to do it. I don't think he's ever hosted anything before. And if you are thrown into it and don't know the movie, first of all, I should have never said that he didn't see anything. You can lie, you can pretend. They will write it for you.

[3:32] Adrian Garzillo: I do what disappointed me the most was when the jokes were not landing and he blamed the writers.

[3:38] Robert Bannon: Mm-mm-mm. Bad form.

[3:40] Adrian Garzillo: I didn't like it. Especially after the strike. Why would you say that?

[3:43] Robert Bannon: Yes, he did say, if you did not watch it, he did say some of these jokes were written for me. The ones you're laughing at, I wrote. I guess that was also his attempt at a joke, but not at the writer's expense.

[3:56] Adrian Garzillo: I also just think like it's, I know it's a hard job because you either go Ricky Gervais and go hard and you in on everybody and you roast them. Or you go Tina Fey, Amy Poehler approach and be silly and goofy and sweet, and you make fun of movies and people, but you're not mean-spirited about it.

[4:16] Robert Bannon: But at the end of the day, A, I think.

[4:18] Adrian Garzillo: Or you go or you fanboy out and be like, "Oh my gosh, Robert De Niro is like," he could have gone that way about it. Self-deprecating and yes.

[4:27] Robert Bannon: Right. And that's the thing with Jo Koy, he doesn't really do that in his comedy. He doesn't really, the only people he makes fun of are Filipinos, you know, and whatnot. And he's like, "Oh, if you're Filipino, you're a nurse," and things like that. And people like his comedy. He's a pretty big, I mean, you know, but this, I really kind, and that's when I was like, "Oh, bad form, bad form."

[4:46] Adrian Garzillo: And I think with a monologue, if you're somebody who is a storyteller comedian, you know, if you're Kevin Hart, who doesn't really tell jokes, jokes, jokes like he tells a story, or you're Jo Koy, or etc. Like, this is not that kind, you don't have 10 minutes to tell a story about when you took your kids to Disney World. Like, this is this is a kind of quick kind of thing.

[5:08] Robert Bannon: Well, I don't think I said to when we finished the show last night, I said to Adrian, I don't think he helped his career. I don't know if it, they're not calling him back.

[5:18] Adrian Garzillo: I don't think anyone will be calling him back.

[5:19] Robert Bannon: No, no. Ricky Gervais, who won a Golden Globes, who in his special makes fun of the Golden Globes, didn't even show up to the Golden Globes.

[5:30] Adrian Garzillo: All right.

[5:30] Robert Bannon: So we picked predicted some awards.

[5:33] Adrian Garzillo: And we did pretty good.

[5:34] Robert Bannon: Well, I mean, I think we did pretty good.

[5:37] Adrian Garzillo: All right, A. I have my list. I did, I did I missed a couple, but I think we did pretty good with our predictions.

[5:43] Robert Bannon: Well, can we start with TV?

[5:44] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, let's.

[5:46] Robert Bannon: TV. We watched it with our friend Mike. Mike has been watching Succession, but he's only on season three. So he was like, "Why is Kieran Culkin gonna win?" And A was like, "You're not up to the end, you didn't finish the series." And then I was so nervous. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, don't say anything about, you know," and then I think one of the actors said something, and we're like, "But that's not what he means. He means something totally different."

[6:09] Adrian Garzillo: Right.

[6:09] Robert Bannon: I was ready for someone to be like, "Well, Brian Cox isn't here because he died on the show," but Mike didn't get that far.

[6:15] Adrian Garzillo: No, I know, but Mike, now you, well, now he can't listen to the podcast.

[6:20] Robert Bannon: Right, we won't. Don't worry. Mike, don't listen. Spoiler alert. Start your podcast.

[6:24] Adrian Garzillo: Okay, who won?

[6:26] Robert Bannon: Because I don't remember anything.

[6:28] Adrian Garzillo: Comedy.

[6:29] Robert Bannon: Oh, I do know. It was a bear, bear, bear extravaganza.

[6:34] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, it was.

[6:35] Robert Bannon: Yes, it was. So the Bear is on FX.

[6:38] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[6:39] Robert Bannon: And you could stream it on Hulu.

[6:41] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[6:41] Robert Bannon: And it's about a chef who opens a, I don't. He's a fancy chef who opens a not a fancy place.

[6:50] Adrian Garzillo: No, no, his family. So he takes over from his family kind of thing.

[6:53] Robert Bannon: And he is a fancy chef. The family is not, but it's well run. And when you're, you know, coming in from a little bougier place, coming into where these people are doing this every day and been in the thick of it, and you come in and try to change stuff. Uh-uh, not gonna work. And then it goes from there. It's a great show. I think it's got an amazing, it's a great ensemble cast and I think they deserved their wins and you know the Golden Globes historically love a new show they love something edgy and trendy and they gave it across the board they gave it best comedy or musical yes they gave best actor in a TV best actor best actress yes best actress yes and a bunch of awards they just ran this the supporting actress um went to Elizabeth Debicki for The Crown she played uh Princess Diana and I do think that was deserved there too she did a great job yes don't mind my dog Clarence is very upset about it apparently um he is a poorly behaved dog oh no yeah well a little bit um I he's interrupts all my interviews so you you you were happy with The Bear yes I was I like the show I'm I'm a Ted Lasso girl so I was hoping since it was the final season I was kind of hoping for that for comedy because I do think it's a great I mean it's the writing is phenomenal the the feeling that you get when I first started watching it because I didn't understand I was like what is this believe and I was like oh I'm gonna be a goldfish like I really did get it and and they were all fantastic and I love Hannah Waddingham I love Jason Sudeikis and I just think it's a it's a great show but um The Bear was new and refreshing and I I was happy for them.

[8:46] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, same.

[8:47] Robert Bannon: And you we said the best supporting um best actress. Her name's Io Edebiri.

[8:52] Adrian Garzillo: Did you say that?

[8:54] Robert Bannon: No.

[8:55] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, that's her name.

[8:55] Robert Bannon: And Jeremy Allen White, obviously the star of The Bear, wins for The Bear. Um Best Drama is a the show that A made me watch, and then I was like, I'm never gonna watch a show and like a show about business. I don't know anything about business. I barely know how to deposit a check anymore. And I was like, Succession. Ew. Those people, who cares? I don't want to see a bunch of white rich people in their lives.

[9:19] Adrian Garzillo: And then you ate it up like with a spoon because it was so good.

[9:23] Robert Bannon: I binge-watched it like a crazy loony tune, and I loved it. It's the best acting on TV in 176 years. And when you think about like when you talk about writing, like for that show, the amount of words that they were saying, but also what, and I'm weird like this too when I watch certain shows, dramatic shows like this, it's almost when they don't speak. That is when it's like you either feel tension or you feel happiness or you feel scared, and they just all the three of them that the when I say the three, um the kids, they are, and I mean any one of them could have won, but it belonged to Kieran Culkin. And his speech was awesome. Suck it, Pedro. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. Of course, you know I love Pedro Pascal, and I knew he wasn't going to win.

I was kind of hoping, but I was like, that would have been a little bit of an upset. But I just thought um Kieran was great. I think he's he's a really good actor, and and he's he's he's he's weird, but I love it.

[10:25] Adrian Garzillo: He's an odd, he's a little bit of an odd bird.

[10:27] Robert Bannon: Does Pedro Pascal have a girlfriend?

[10:32] Adrian Garzillo: No.

[10:33] Robert Bannon: Uh-huh. So anyway, so we so we had um so what Kieran Culkin wins for Best Performance by Male Actor, beats the other Succession people, Brian Cox and now listen Brian Cox, yeah. Jeremy Strong is an amazing actor in anything that he does, he's very method. Coming to Broadway, the people is coming to Broadway Circle in the Square Theater this spring.

[10:56] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, I I just I mean it would have been between the two of them. I think to I mean it it really was a 50-50 shot because they both were phenomenal in this season, but Kieran owned it, like he deserved it.

[11:06] Robert Bannon: And then best performance by a female actor. We said we wanted her to win. We didn't think she was gonna maybe win, but yeah, Sarah Snook won for Succession. You know, she is she's really whoo cutthroat killer. Shiv will shiv you. That's that's what she's like and it really just and and uh you know uh just I know we're not talking about fashion yet. Um her dress choice could have been a little better.

[11:35] Adrian Garzillo: She looked, it was it was beautiful, she looked beautiful.

[11:38] Robert Bannon: Uh she just it just I think the fitting of it wasn't perfect for her. She needed a little assistance with the um the boobas boobies, just a little bit, and she but I I love her, and again, she has an accent you didn't realize I believe she's Australian.

[11:50] Adrian Garzillo: Um so and go ahead, and then the other actor that you didn't know Matthew McFadyen is English or or or

[11:50] Robert Bannon: Yes, he's British, yes, who plays uh Snook uh Shiv's husband, Tom, oh's and he's oh another snaky snake of a snake person.

[12:16] Adrian Garzillo: Oh but so good, so good.

[12:20] Robert Bannon: You know, I love I love when they have English accents that I don't know because I have an American accent here, but I am also English, and I'm really like, "Hello, hey, I'm from England."

[12:33] Adrian Garzillo: And but I put on an American accent for this podcast.

[12:37] Robert Bannon: And you do it very well.

[12:39] Adrian Garzillo: Very, very well.

[12:39] Robert Bannon: Thank you. And Succession wins and The Bear wins. And The Bear is not just a gay bar in the village. It is a television show. You could watch it on FX. Um and I was happy for it. It was good. I don't know what Beef is, eh?

[12:52] Adrian Garzillo: But Beef was on on Netflix, and it got a little controversial.

[12:57] Robert Bannon: I haven't watched it.

[12:58] Adrian Garzillo: I heard it was excellent. Many, many uh friends of mine have watched it and said it was excellent.

[13:03] Robert Bannon: And it also swept those awards because it was the limited anthology series or TV movie.

[13:09] Adrian Garzillo: And uh when Ali Wong won, I mean she got emotional. I mean, that was really amazing for for for first nomination, first win. There was a lot of those last night, actually.

[13:18] Robert Bannon: Yeah, first nominations and first wins.

[13:20] Adrian Garzillo: And then Steven Yeun also won for Beef. He was um Glenn in The Walking Dead, those that know know.

[13:26] Robert Bannon: If you know, you know. Um, and then it won for the series as well. And wow, like that's again, I I kind of like when it does sweep. I know sometimes you want uh other people to get certain things, but then it really goes to show what a great television show it was because if it wins, the actors should win.

[13:44] Adrian Garzillo: That's how I feel.

[13:45] Robert Bannon: I agreed because the acting and the writing and the directing, all of it together. If you're gonna win the best show, best miniseries, best movie, that's all thanks to the director and the actors and the cinematographers and all uh and the music and all of it.

[13:58] Adrian Garzillo: Speaking of music, best original score went to Oppenheimer, and the best song.

[14:02] Robert Bannon: All right, A. We were both wrong.

[14:05] Adrian Garzillo: I know we were.

[14:07] Robert Bannon: You know, I love Lenny Kravitz, he's my celebrity hall pass.

[14:11] Adrian Garzillo: Woo! Lenny.

[14:12] Robert Bannon: And I love Bruce Springsteen, even though the song's a little snoozy, but I love as Bruce can be.

[14:20] Adrian Garzillo: And Dua Lipa is a bopity bop bop bop.

[14:24] Robert Bannon: Fun song. You know, I've met Dua Lipa twice.

[14:27] Adrian Garzillo: You did.

[14:28] Robert Bannon: I did. I've met Dua Lipa at SNL.

[14:31] Adrian Garzillo: That's right.

[14:31] Robert Bannon: Background in SNL. She's 100 feet tall and very beautiful. And then I once was the celebrity wrangler at the Oscars of Shoes.

[14:40] Adrian Garzillo: Oh.

[14:41] Robert Bannon: And I brought Dua Lipa backstage so she could get presented with the Celebrity Shoeline of the Year award.

[14:48] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, that's very exciting.

[14:50] Robert Bannon: She is stunning.

[14:52] Robert Bannon: Aside from what she's wearing, she is really beautiful. She's a really down to earth, nice person. And she's very chill. And I almost asked her for a selfie, but I didn't want to get fired because I was doing it as a favor for a friend. I wanted to be in my best behavior.

[15:06] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, yes. That's always good to do that. And it's nice that she's not, you know, because you hear stories sometimes how some people can be so that's nice. I'm glad that it didn't go to her head.

[15:16] Robert Bannon: Well, they lost, Ken lost, Peaches Peaches, Peaches lost. And I know I was and Jack Black was there. And Billie Eilish won and her brother Phineas and Verb. And Billie Eilish won for the, what was I made for? The depressing song of Barbie. And you know, sad Barbie and Kid Skipper, um, as the song. So um Billie Eilish.

[15:43] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, is a very in, you know, she's super popular. My students love her because she's all moody and dark and oh my gosh, my cousin Gabby like adores her. I get it, and her, I mean, listen, to be as I mean, she's been around for a while now. Her songwriting skills are amazing. Like if it's take the music aside, to write a song is hard. That's like really difficult. Not everyone can do that.

[16:07] Robert Bannon: You know what I fell in love with her? And speaking of, I did SNL for a couple of seasons doing background and principal work, and she was a host and musical guest once, and she was in the hallway petting um the animals for the like she she seemed very very chill and in her own little way. But what I found interesting was when she wrote Bad Guy, they were in Australia on tour, and that do do do that. The computerized sound in it was the sound of the crosswalk warning from the light, and they took light and they sampled it to make the sounds like that's a real artist where you could be crossing the street and you hear something, and then you say that can fit in my song. Like I love that part of the song.

That's it's such a catchy little, you know, and that that's actually that's the first time that I heard her, and I was like, who is this girl? And then you see her, and she's so and you know, I know a lot of people give her flack for her outfits. She's very specific with what she wears, and she's been invited to the Met Gala at least once or twice now, and she is beautiful, she is stunning, but because society sucks, they do, and how they say, especially towards women, um, you know, talking about women's bodies and things like that, she chooses to wear and cover up, which is fine. I just think um a leave her alone, but it was a little more of a dressier event. So I wish she was a little more dressier than what she was wearing. But I'm happy, good for her, and let's see what happens with the Oscars. I'm still holding out for Peaches.

[17:32] Adrian Garzillo: I hear you. I want you to tell us before we go to movies, give me your fashion. Adrian's five minutes of fashion.

[17:41] Robert Bannon: Hold on, you want music for that here?

[17:47] Adrian Garzillo: Go ahead. So my fashion, I, you know, of course, what do they always talk about? Oh, what are you wearing? What are you wearing? As Joan Rivers, um, I don't know if she started it, but you know, who are you wearing? I think everyone looked really great in in their way. I think everyone looked great. I don't think anyone was super like ooh, ugly or what have you. I just think because everyone definitely has like a signature style nowadays, but I think the gentleman brought it yesterday. I loved the color. I love the different textures of their um tuxedos and and suits and whatnot.

[18:24] Adrian Garzillo: Um I actually want to start off with the uh how do I don't want to say older gentleman, but Lenny Kravitz. I mean hot. Come on. I mean, this man, he's 60 years old. Like I mean, I remember my dad had six years old, and he did not look at 60 years older than his Kohl's pants. He does not look like Lenny Kravitz. We love Greg, but um Lenny Kravitz, even Will Farrell. I mean, sell Greg for Lenny Kravitz. Oh that's a story for another time. Um, Will Farrell, I think looked amazing. I and a lot of the gentlemen were in white. Um I I do like uh Jonathan Bailey, uh, who was from Bridgerton and he's in the new wicked movie, and he was wearing uh Given Chi, and I love the white suits. I think it looked really nice.

[19:19] Adrian Garzillo: Uh Andrew Scott as well. He was in Valentino. He was nominated for um best actor in our drama. Um, and Coleman Domingo, he was on a lot of the top list that I was reading because it was a different look. It wasn't your traditional tuxedo, which Bradley Cooper wore and looked amazing and brought his mom. I love that he does that. And I think correct me if I'm wrong, uh Jelani Aladdin. You know Jelani Aladdin, I believe, correct?

[19:46] Robert Bannon: I sure do.

[19:47] Adrian Garzillo: And he was there. He had a fabulous uh suit on looked absolutely amazing. Robert Dani Jr. My Broadway friends know Jelani Aladdin, Jelani Aladdin of uh Frozen and has been on the the round table before he looked absolutely amazing. John Baptiste looked fit fantastic. Then you have Matt Bomer. I do enjoy looking at Matt Bomer. He's very handsome very talented and he had on like a blue tuxedo jacket. I don't think he had a tie on. I kind of liked it. Golden Globes you don't have to be that super duper dressed up like you you can there's a line that you can you know do that.

[20:24] Adrian Garzillo: Killian Murphy who won um looked amazing. I liked his tuxedo as well. Um now you knew who I was waiting to see walk that red jacket my Pedro Pascal and um he he injured himself he fell I don't know how maybe filming gladiator he might have injured himself he had a sling on maybe maybe swiping on grinder oh I'm gonna get in trouble for this show we love Pedro we love Pedro um no matter what we love Pedro he I don't know what he was wearing. He had on like this this very nice uh he's very fashionable. He tries to kind of be a little edgy. Uh I was I I guess the jacket would have been too much to wear. Um it was different. I I liked that it was different. John Krasinski had on like red, Barry Kiogen of Saltburn. Mismatched the pants and the jacket, so it didn't really match. If it was all I think monochrome color, it would have been great. Um so those are the gentlemen, and I think they they all looked great. I don't think I missed anybody there.

[21:29] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, and oh Jared Leto and Timothy Chalamet. I do enjoy them as well. I think Timothy Chalamet is very handsome. I I may I know I'm not the only person that thinks that way, and I just he's got a very cool fashion sense. I really do like that. And is he the new Johnny Depp? Maybe I don't know. Some people say that, like you, Robert.

[21:49] Robert Bannon: I said that. I said I did not find him attractive. I also said that he um uh he is in he's the next Johnny Depp, which is a compliment, I think, yes.

[21:59] Adrian Garzillo: And um, and and and uh you mentioned him and you mentioned some dirty person.

[22:05] Robert Bannon: Oh, Jared, he he's not dirty. Adrian loves Jared Leto. He he wore he's very he has a lot of good um hair, and he has very what's a nice way to say this, immovable skin on his face, and he he has very odd gloves.

[22:26] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, he likes the gloves for some reason. I mean, hey, listen, it it is what it is. But the women also brought it. They looked amazing. Uh I will I will do uh because there were so many. I I will mention a couple because and I will save my top three for last, but um, I thought Selena Gomez looked gorgeous. She had a beautiful, like a red shiny dress on, and she's young, so it was nice to be fun and flirty. I think Taylor Swift looked beautiful in this green. You know, I love a good sparkly dress. She looked stunning. She was alone.

[22:58] Adrian Garzillo: Um Aretha says about Taylor Swift. What? Aretha Franklin says about Taylor Swift. What do you think of her voice? And she says, pretty gowns. She wears pretty gowns.

[23:12] Robert Bannon: Um Margot Robbie. I I she she killed it again with the Barbie. I was hoping for a different Barbie look. I I do remember that particular Barbie dress um that they recreated. And I she's she is beautiful. I don't I think she could wear like a juicy tracks sweatsuit and she'd look great. Um Emma Stone uh looked beautiful. Uh again, a lot of the the a lot of white, a lot of the women wore white as well, and a lot of shine.

[23:38] Adrian Garzillo: Um in purple, stunning, absolutely stunning. Um about Oprah lately, she wears her glasses all the time, and she don't she does not care. She's just gonna wear it for her. She and she looked, she looked great, she really looked amazing. Like the dress was just absolutely stunning and beautiful, and and you know me, I love a purple, anything purple. And I also think Meryl Streep looked wonderful. Usually she's a kind of hit or miss. I really liked her outfit last night.

[24:05] Adrian Garzillo: Um, I really liked as did Mike. Um, Haley Steinfeld, who came in, she was wearing Prada in pink, and it was beautiful. The back had this bow detail design. Now my top two are J-Lo. I think she looked absolutely stunning, but my favorite was Issa Ray. Issa Ray, her that dress. Oh my god, stunning. She when I saw her, I was like, oh, she was absolutely gorgeous. Absolutely, absolutely gorgeous.

[24:34] Adrian Garzillo: And I'd like to give an honorable mention to um Danielle Brooks in red because she also looked absolutely beautiful. I absolutely loved it. But I don't know if you heard about Jillian Anderson who was there at the Globes, and she had on a white, what looked like just a regular white, nice, pretty gown. But there was a design on the bottom part of the gown. Did you hear about this?

[24:55] Robert Bannon: No, Gillian Anderson X-File Sex Education, Gillian Anderson.

[24:59] Adrian Garzillo: Sex Education. Oh, yes.

[25:02] Robert Bannon: I like this show a lot.

[25:03] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, sex great show. Who knew? That was like a sleeper. You were the one that said, oh A, you have to watch it. And I fell in love. It's such a great show.

[25:10] Robert Bannon: Um, yes.

[25:16] Adrian Garzillo: So on the so the dress was white. She looked stunning in it. Her hair was down. She looked absolutely beautiful. And then she said it was fitting that she had this embroidered, I guess, into the dress. And then when you look a little bit closer, and you know, um, it was vaginas. Can I say that on this podcast?

[25:38] Robert Bannon: She felt it was fitting.

[25:40] Adrian Garzillo: You could say anything on this podcast. She so the dress, it's a beautiful white little poofy, and on the bottom part of the dress are photos of vaginas. Remember that Sex in the City uh episode where um um Charlotte was working and he painted vaginas, so that was on her dress.

[25:57] Robert Bannon: Oh my goodness.

[25:58] Adrian Garzillo: Well, that is a that was like I I think her political statement, because Jillian can be a little political. I don't even think she lives in the United States, but woo-woo, good for you, Gillian. She looked gorgeous. And if you didn't know, you didn't know, so now you do.

[26:09] Robert Bannon: I'm gonna have to look at a picture of it because it's been a very long time since I've seen a vagina.

[26:15] Adrian Garzillo: And um, well, good see, that's the tip. The thing you did not know this week that you didn't know you needed to know until today.

[26:22] Robert Bannon: There you go.

[26:23] Adrian Garzillo: There you go. So I will say there were two looks though that I wasn't a fan of. Um, the drop the shade.

[26:30] Robert Bannon: The shade, just a little bit, and it's not the the actual dress itself, but Florence Pugh of um uh Oppenheimer, she had a beautiful red dress on, red was also a popular color as well. Um but her hair, and and she has done like Mohawks, like she kind of you know, which is fine, and I actually would have preferred that better. She decided to go retro, super retro, and she kind of looked like the lead singer of Flock of Seagulls.

[26:55] Adrian Garzillo: I was gonna say, you all said Flock of Seedrels. Didn't they sing and I run what if I ran?

[27:01] Robert Bannon: Yes, that's the song.

[27:03] Adrian Garzillo: Well if she would have slipped her hair back, or it would have looked just better, it just kind of flopped in her face, and I was like, Oh, just missed the mark. That was my only thing. And and Sarah Snook, we we were hoping she was going to win, and it was a very simple dress. I I just it was showing her midriff. I was like, I don't know. I it just it just and and she wasn't wearing any um bra.

[27:26] Robert Bannon: So that was just kind of but yeah.

[27:29] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, and and speaking of uh bras, uh Divine Joy Randolph, um her dress was beautiful, but she those puppies, woo! Hey now, good for her. I'm very excited for her.

[27:39] Robert Bannon: It might have not fit.

[27:43] Adrian Garzillo: It it oh my god sometimes I know this for a fact with pants for men, you want to fit in a tight pant, you want to show a skinny body, or you want to show a little bit of a silhouette. Sometimes things pop out a little bit more because they're sucked and tucked and pushed.

[28:01] Robert Bannon: And she was pushed and tucked and oh, she was, and I think for a a woman who is of a um larger size, she was gorgeous. Her makeup, her hair, every and the dress, the color of the dress was beautiful. It was like a what's it like a maroon color? And she had sparkles on the bodice part of it that was holding her together.

[28:20] Adrian Garzillo: But it's true. They they were, she was corseted in there like nobody's business. So they were much more protruding, but she looked stunning. I just hope she didn't jump too or dance too much at the after party.

[28:30] Robert Bannon: Well, you know, that brings us to our categories because she won for best supporting actress.

[28:35] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, she did.

[28:36] Robert Bannon: I love Danielle Brooks a lot. I I love that Daniel Brooks is amazing. But when you watch the movie, The Holdovers, she really breaks your heart. They all three main characters break your heart in that movie. But and I'm not trying to give spoilers alert, but her arc in that movie uh about her personal life, and there are moments where she's very joyful and very tough, and you know, she's smoking her cigarette and cooking or whatever, but then there are moments where she is lets her guard down and you see the the pain that she's gone through.

[29:05] Adrian Garzillo: She really gives that movie a movie that's really about three people without much going on in that movie at all. She gives it a lot of comedy and and nuance and pain, and she is she does a really beautiful job with that movie.

[29:18] Robert Bannon: She she does. I was very happy for her. I was nice again. It was nice to see, you know, a new person kind of win. It's I I love to see that. And I also have to say, as a whole, I love that they really didn't cut people off. I know it went a little bit over, and if you just let them talk a little bit more, like give them give them their moment, don't rush them too too much. I thought everybody gave really, really some of them were okay, but some of them are really great speeches.

[29:42] Adrian Garzillo: Well, speaking of speeches, best supporting actor in a movie went to an Adrian favorite, which is Robert Downey Jr.

[29:51] Robert Bannon: For Oppenheimer, he's not in an iron suit in this movie. I alleged. I did not watch the movie because it's about two and a half hours too long for me. But I know that he's a great actor. He's an odd duck. He is. He's definitely, you know, I mean, aside from the Iron Man and everything, and when you talk about a comeback, oh yeah, he really he and and I and that's what makes me when people kind of like, oh, you know, look at him. Yeah, he could be, he could have died. He could have if you really think about it. And he turned he went to jail, turned his life around, and he truly is an amazing actor. He's always been a great actor. I mean, less than zero, Chaplin, Tropic Thunder. I'm putting it out there.

He was great in Tropic Thunder. Um, this movie, I was shocked. I really was because I wasn't sure because you know, when you see one Iron Man and Marvel movie, you've seen them all. They're still great. But when you see him do this, I was like, wow, like he really it was just and he loved the movie. And when he was when they were promoting it, he just was gushing. And usually you don't hear him talk like that. So that's why I think he appreciated the role. Uh and he was just he was really great. So I was excited. And his speech was great. I love it. He's he's a nut. We are gonna you're gonna hear oh Oppenheimer a lot. Uh speaking of best performance by a most director. Uh, of course, I didn't think there was another, I mean, there was no other real competition, in my opinion.

I I knew that Christopher Nolan, he had never won. Never won. So, I mean, this is a pretty epic movie. It made a billion dollars. A movie, as the producer said, the woman producer said, you know, a movie about a bomb in American history, like to make that change that changed. Uh, I mean, it really rated R. And not only that, it wasn't a good thing that this was created. Like, you know, when you think about that, and and that's where you see Oppenheimer's, because he's like, wait a second, and I mean a brilliant man. He's like, Well, but we're gonna use this for why are we you and then you and then you see what happens. And this is truly an ensemble cast. There are amazing performances. Matt Damon, amazing performance in this film.

Um, our buddy Bernard, uh, David Crumholz, he's amazing in this film, amazing, amazing in this. Um, oh, what's his name? Josh. Oh my goodness. Hartnett, yes, he has a great role in this. It really, it's and then sometimes because I kind of do this at movies, and um my husband always is like, how do you know? Oh no. I remember who like I'll know, I'll look at them and I'll be like, oh my gosh, that's so-and-so from that other movie. And again, they do look very different because a lot of the movies also black and white, so you know, it's very interesting. Emily. I'll watch it, I'll watch it, Adrian. It's gonna take me weeks. The sag screeners are coming. I'll watch this damn movie. It's worth the watch.

And the other great thing, and this is why Christopher Nolan, I I enjoy Christopher Nolan. I will stand for him. He is he is an amazing filmmaker. He did not use any CGI in this film, and that in today's for a movie like this where you're talking about an atomic bomb is amazing. I agree. So congrats to Christopher Nolan. I'm sure he'll have a Noscar on his mantle. Um, but we'll get to that when we do Oscar time. Uh, best performance by a male actor in a motion picture musical or comedy. I thought it was as a teacher. Um, you know, Paul Giamatti's speech was really beautiful, and I I love the homage to his family who are teachers. You know, he is an actor that you watch him and you know he's really he's not someone who is like, oh damn, I gotta go see this movie because Paul Giamatti's in it, because he's not um salacious and scandal driven, he's just a good actor forever.

And this movie to star in this movie and to to kind of have this movie on his back, the nuances of this movie. Me and A talked in the preview about a good old movie, like a movie that's just a good movie that's not a story, it's a good story-driven movie, and he is acting for his little face off. So I I was happy he won. He's he's an actor's actor, like he he's not pretentious, he's not he's and and I think people forget he's funny in Big Mama's house. He was hysterical. He's said Big Mama's house. Cat Williams will tell you why he made Big Mama's house, Martin Lawrence, but that's another show. That's another show. I don't know if that's for the Broadway podcast audience, but I but I think that that uh that is a good point.

He's always been a good actor, he's very funny. Always, and he's always and he's always picked, I think, specific roles that spoke to him. And I'm sure he could have done things on a larger scale, and he chooses these really great films, and that's why he and this this is a long time coming for him too. He's been nominated, but this was a good one for him. I was so excited. Me too. And then when we get to Best Performance by a female actor in a motion picture musical or comedy, um, you know, I Barg Margo, people are they love the Barbie movie because people saw the Barbie movie. I I and I love Fantasia because I love singing and I'm a musical person, hence, we're on the Broadway Podcast Network.

But Emma Stone, Mike's is the one who out of the three of us who saw Poor Things, he said that it's a very interesting weird movie. Um, Rami Youssef, who graduated acting school a year before me, is in this movie, and I'm always thrilled for him and um and his career, and then Emma Stone, you know, is is a weird movie, apparently. And we love her. Yeah, we love Emma Stone. She is great, she's great in Cruella. Um, and I they they are doing the sequel. I think she starts filming it soon, probably after all the the award season and stuff. And that was, I think, a little bit of a surprise because I think everybody figured, oh, it's gonna be Margo, it's gonna be Marg. And I was pleasantly surprised.

And listen, Emma Stone's great. I mean, La La Land, you know, like she, and again, she's another one. She can do anything. She can do funny, she can do serious, she can do romantic TV show. She was also nominated for a television show. Yes. As well. So I think I'm happy for her. She works. Um, yeah, she has not did she win an Oscar. I believe she won for La La Land. I think so too, but we could be lying. So if we're lying, tell us. You won't offend us. You could DR D D what is it called? DM. Yes. I'm I'm at Robert M. Bannon, and Adrian is at at AMC Disney. You can't don't DM me your filthy nasty stuff, though. I'm a married spud, and so is she. Um, and this is on the you can't see me, so therefore, it's you can't judge what we look like.

Here we go. Maybe you have you think we have a sexy voice. Who knows? Well, Adrian's looking up Emma Stone's uh theatrical awards career. Best performance by a female actor in a motion picture went to Lily Gladstone for Killers of the Flower Moon. Which did we find out about Emma Stone? She won. She didn't so um 2017. And I'm sure Lily Gladstone will win the Oscar. I I could just smell it, but we'll talk about that when we get closer too. But Lily Gladstone made uh history as well. A is somebody who is a big uh activist and advocate for the Native Americans, and I'm sure that was a big moment for for the native community and um tell us a I I thought it was really beautiful. Uh I was very excited when I I heard this movie was coming out, and I was like, oh, it should be interesting to see.

It it is another long one, Robert. Um, but again, you have an amazing cast. It's Martin Scorsese. Need I say more? And if it's Martin Scorsese, I'm gonna watch it. As he's gotten older, some of them are not always as as good as they used to be back in the day, like Goodfellas in Casino and whatnot. Um but she really I mean, this was the first time an indigenous person has won. Uh and I mean leading, you know, a female lead. And I thought her speech was beautiful, and she is part of the um Blackfoot, I believe, um, community uh here. And she spoke a little bit of her native language and she had her mom there, and I just thought that was really nice and sweet and and earnest. Like she was she was truly honored and she gave a great speech, and I I you know she thanked Leo and Marty.

I love that she called them Marty. Um that's so funny. I I think it was great. I was happy for her. Um, best performance by a male actor went to someone who for me at least, he came flying on the scene in Batman. That's when I first saw him. Then he kind of like disappeared for I didn't know he did Pinky Blinders and whatever, but like he didn't hit the I think when I he first came out, they had set him up to be like big giant box office draw. It took him a little bit of a roundabout way. He's he's an interesting actor. He go ahead. So I've known I've known Killian since he did 28 Days. 28 Days. Yes. Okay. Which was like, I think the introduction into the zombie movie realm. And he was you would think he was attractive.

And I was like, oh, in the movie, not so much. And it's a great film if you can find it somewhere streaming or if you have a DVD, watch it. That's kind of where I first saw him. That was quite some time ago. And then he kind of did some other movies, and then he did Breakfast in Pluto, which was amazing. Loved it. Um, I believe it's about a young man in London, and he is kind of like a drag queen kind of thing. So he he definitely did a lot of um independent films and whatnot. And then he did some other space things, and it didn't really go anywhere. But then he got Pinky Blinders. Pinky Blinders has been on for like eight or nine seasons, if I'm not mistaken. So he had been doing that. This, and then he did Batman, and he's been working with with Nolan, Christopher Nolan now for 20 years.

20 years, and then they picked him for this. Uh, I do I think he's very handsome. The accent does get it too. He's got beautiful eyes, and he's he's very quiet. He's he reminds me of like a Heath Ledger, where Heath Ledger just was like, Yes, I love acting, but I'm I don't want to kind of be that Hollywood kind of person, and that's kind of what Killian is like, and he's a phenomenal actor. And this movie definitely shows it. I mean, he woof amazing. So kudos to him. That's a it was a it was nice that he won. Even though I I don't, you know, he's I don't think anyone on that list is that is exciting. Like, I didn't see anyone that's listening say, Wow, I hope they win so I could hear them give their speech.

But I'm happy maybe Coleman Domingo, but we knew I I didn't think he was gonna win. I I know I'm happy for uh him. So the controversy that I spewed last week about cinematic and box office achievement as an award, because I thought that it was a BS award because I thought it was just an award, so that people can give an award to a movie that people saw. Cause like I didn't think Guardians of the Galaxy, even though people think it's fun, is like a uh award nominated or Super Mario Brothers, you know. I agree. Yeah standard that people should have to uh awards. It's uh it's objective, it's it's objective, you know. I some people find certain things great and other people don't, but like I just thought they want people to tune in.

So you the biggest complaint that people give about the Oscars usually is that they didn't see the movies because when they're they're independent movies or they're in limited release or people don't get the chance to see them. Why are we gonna watch if we don't see the movie? I agree. And I think that's why and initially, because I'm uh I love going to the theaters. I I love that experience. I love watching the previews. It's very exciting, like, oh, what movie is coming out next. However, over the past couple of years, that experience has kind of changed. Um, and if I do go, I don't want to get sick, so I kind of wear a mask and I kind of have re you know, haven't gone as often and I do miss that experience, but I do think it's still important.

I I hope we can get back to doing that again someday. But I think it's great because now more people, because they are able to stream movies, can see more of the movies that are possibly going to be nominated for the Oscars. So I think that's exciting. I agree. And uh Barbie won, and Barbie, you know, deserved to win because it did a billion dollars. And if it's going to be about cinematic achievement, then that's kudos to that. We have And it was I mean, that was yes, it was Barbie Heimer, like it was Barbie and Oppenheimer because they opened like on the same day, which is crazy and wonderful. And that's kind of what saved the movies, is besides Tom Cruise. Um, they this year they really did it, and people really got to see them, and they were really the last people to that were able to promote their films.

That's the other thing, too, because then the strike happened, right? And so everybody knew to see both of these movies. And you saw I remember when I went to go see Oppenheimer that there were men wearing Barbie shirts, and they were doing a double feature, and I love that. I think that's great. I like why can't you see both? I agree, and I think I was happy. Uh listen, I'm not a Taylor Swift hater either. I I I mean, she is a PR machine, she is very brilliant. Yes. I think she's very calculated as what she does. I'm not saying she's not happy in her relationship. It's not we're not a gossipy show like that, but like I just know she's smart, she knows how to keep her name in the news, and I know that she does she's good to her fans, she's a good songwriter and she she works hard and she's generous, you know, the money she gave to her crew and she made billions of dollars and all of that, but she did not deserve to win the award.

I mean, her movie made a ton of money for the amount of money it cost, but it's not a billion-dollar movie. So I'm happy she went, and I'm happy she was nominated, and I'm happy we all got a good kick out of her being there, but it deserved to go to a different movie that made more money. I it's did now here's now. I'm gonna just kind of not throw shade, but well, yeah, I am. Do you think they just did that just to get her there? Thinking she's come with with Travis. I think they they don't even care if she came with him because him not coming was a story. Coming is a story. Everything is a story. She's a I kind of feel bad. Like, leave her alone. Let her live her life. She's not like the poor thing.

But I also have read a blind items and and stuff about her, you know, very big on putting it in the press and calling paparazzi to where they are, very alaj-lo. I I think she likes it. I think she loves the Easter eggs. And she will say, like her fans, the uh the Swifties. Um, I'm a little bit of a Swifty. I will say that I do I do enjoy her music. I think it's great. She she is a great songwriter, and she will wear like a moon and a star, and that's because I mean I'm not that deep into it, but she does, like you say, she is a little calculated, and she she does it for the fans.

[44:39] Robert Bannon: So, you know, kudos to her. As long as she's not hurting anybody or anybody hurting her, I'm fine with it. I'm a Swifty. I've seen her in concert. I saw her open for Tim McGraw on Faith Hill. I saw her tour by herself. Well, she opened with just her and a guitar. I saw her tour with Ed Sheeran as her opening act, and I've been a fan of the Swift experience. I liked her more than I think than I like her now because she's become a corporation. She is a— I was gonna say it's a corporation, it's all commercial, it's not as intimate as it used to be, but kudos, kudos because if we all had a chance, we'd all take it and run. Best motion picture, musical or comedy went to Poor Things. Yeah, that's about that. I don't even remember what the hell that movie says. What is it? That's with your buddy Rami, Rami Youssef is in it.

[45:28] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, yeah, yeah. Emma Stone and Willem Dafoe and Mark Ruffalo.

[45:33] Robert Bannon: You know, I love my Mark Ruffalo. We met him many, many years ago.

[45:37] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, we did.

[45:38] Robert Bannon: Many years ago. We met him when he was promoting the movie with Reese Witherspoon. It was like a romantic comedy.

[45:44] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, yeah, it's so cute.

[45:45] Robert Bannon: It's such a cute little, but not. He was super, super nice, and he still is nice from what I gather. And yeah, Mike said it was a really interesting kind of movie, and I like those kinds of movies. And I think the music one too, right?

[46:04] Adrian Garzillo: Oh no, the music— Oppenheimer won for the music.

[46:06] Robert Bannon: But he said the score, like the music is weird, like it's— but when you look at a movie like this where it's kind of like Frankenstein and Frankenstein's bride, kind of sorta, you gotta— it's gotta be a little weird.

[46:17] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, I agree.

[46:18] Robert Bannon: But that was it, that I think that was a bit of a surprise. I think we all thought it was gonna go to Barbie.

[46:22] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, but you know, I'm sure it's a great movie, and I'm sure it's artistic and an achievement on its own. And we'll see if it gets nominated for an Oscar.

[46:30] Robert Bannon: I'm sure it will get nominated for an Oscar. Well, you know, when they got up to— with the award, the director, I don't recall his name.

[46:38] Adrian Garzillo: I hold on.

[46:40] Robert Bannon: This part, your ghost, um— your go.

[46:45] Adrian Garzillo: You're gonna call him your ghost.

[46:46] Robert Bannon: He got up there, he was very excited. I think he was a little fumbling, and he was starstruck with Bruce Springsteen, and I loved his speech because he just kept thanking Bruce Springsteen, and I think he couldn't believe that he was in the same room as him, and I love that. That's what I love about these award shows because, you know, not everybody sees each other all the time or really knows each other. They may see them in passing and whatnot, and he was really excited, and I thought that was adorable. I would fan out, I think, about Bruce Springsteen.

[47:11] Adrian Garzillo: I enjoyed the Bruce Springsteen.

[47:13] Robert Bannon: Hello, we're from Jersey. Oh my gosh. My cousin Sally, she'd pass out.

[47:17] Adrian Garzillo: Of course, I mean, we had Steven Van Zandt on the round table, and we fanned out about him. You know, like we enjoy an inch street moment.

[47:25] Robert Bannon: The best, well, we've kind of buried the lead here because we talked about it about 665 times. Oppenheimer wins. Now, my question to you— hey wait, wait, wait. We forgot one award that was also new. There was another new award before we get to the big, the big, big one, the stand-up comedy one.

[47:42] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[47:43] Robert Bannon: I know we talked that who won.

[47:44] Adrian Garzillo: Ricky Gervais did win.

[47:46] Robert Bannon: But do you find it interesting that they would include this type of an award? Because comedy specials have been on television for years.

[47:56] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, forever.

[47:57] Robert Bannon: I mean, Gallagher was smashing watermelons in 1986. Comic Relief back in the day, or even the comedy awards. I think that for me, I just think they are always looking for ways to get interesting, famous people in the room at the Golden Globes. They like to give seats to people that are not always in the movies.

[48:19] Adrian Garzillo: That you know, I've seen musicians and et cetera be there that are not nominated because they try to make it a fancy event.

[48:25] Robert Bannon: I think it's an interesting category. I like that it's there. Jim Gaffigan was my— I wish he hosted the Golden Globes because that was shady, shady, shady.

[48:34] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, he was great.

[48:36] Robert Bannon: I didn't think Ricky Gervais was gonna win.

[48:39] Adrian Garzillo: I didn't think so either.

[48:40] Robert Bannon: I was hoping for Wanda. I love Wanda Sykes.

[48:41] Adrian Garzillo: I love Wanda.

[48:43] Robert Bannon: I thought Chris Rock's special was fantastic as well.

[48:45] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, yeah, that was— aside from Chris Rock, he gives a good special.

[48:50] Robert Bannon: That was a really funny one. There was a great bit he did about his daughter and when she got in trouble, and he was like, let her get in trouble. And I love that. I really enjoyed the special. If you don't know about my personal life, if you don't watch the round table every Thursday live on YouTube, I talk about my personal life. I have a fiancé, and my fiancé comes from Detroit and is a church family, and he's got that attitude. Like, if you're a teacher and my kid's in trouble, then let them be in trouble and let them stay.

[49:16] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, they could stay in jail, they could stay in detention, they could stay wherever.

[49:19] Robert Bannon: And this little hoity-toity little white guy from Bergen County, New Jersey, was a little helicopter parenting. My parents wouldn't, and I loved Chris Rock because he lives in Alpine, New Jersey. His kids went to the most expensive school in New Jersey, and let them be in trouble. He was like, let her be expelled. And his daughter was like, excuse me. Oh, you want to screw around and find out? There you go. She really wasn't, but he let her think that for like a week, and I just— the bit was really great. It was, and the end of it was awesome. Like, I really loved how he ended that story.

[49:51] Adrian Garzillo: But can I just say, I know we said for host for next year, can I say my favorite presenters were Kristen Wiig and Will Ferrell?

[49:58] Robert Bannon: Oh, so funny.

[49:59] Adrian Garzillo: So funny.

[50:00] Robert Bannon: You know, Will Ferrell is an interesting person.

[50:05] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[50:06] Robert Bannon: He's an interesting person. He's a very talented person. He's gotten into producing. He plays Will Ferrell in his movies very well. Like, he does Will Ferrell well.

[50:15] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[50:18] Robert Bannon: Loved him on Saturday Night Live. I gave shade to Kristen Wiig at the party because I said I love Kristen Wiig when she does Kristen Wiig, but like I don't love— I don't want to go to a movie and see Kristen Wiig be something she's not Kristen Wiig.

[50:32] Adrian Garzillo: I agree.

[50:33] Robert Bannon: She's great in Bridesmaids, but like Bridesmaids is probably my favorite that she's done because she plays like an— like the character she plays on SNL, like a quirky, funny, so funny on SNL. They were so funny. Just those few couple minutes, like you initially you're like, oh, what's happening? I'm like, that's the bet. Like, why can't they host? You know, they're gonna— everyone's talking about them, so who knows?

[50:55] Adrian Garzillo: A and me used to go look for audience autographs and pictures before I became an international superstar.

[51:04] Robert Bannon: I say that so victim. And so we went one day in the rain, and Will Ferrell back then was historically not nice, like he was not an easy autograph. He was not an easy person to take a picture with people. He would always be on the list of the people who would not sign, and we and her were the only people there. And he stopped and took a picture and talked to us. Like, maybe if there was a hundred people there, he wouldn't, but he did. And then when he went to Broadway, he stage-doored, which that is a whole other conversation for another day.

[51:32] Adrian Garzillo: Another day we should have that discussion. That would be very good to have that conversation on here for the Broadway Podcast Network.

[51:38] Robert Bannon: We may have to talk about stage-dooring because Adrian and me have very different opinions.

[51:42] Adrian Garzillo: Um, Oppenheimer won, right?

[51:45] Robert Bannon: Yes, they did, rightfully so. Oppenheimer wins, Oppenheimer will win the Oscar.

[51:52] Adrian Garzillo: So here's the thing.

[51:55] Robert Bannon: There's always that one movie that could switch it up. Just when they thought Saving Private Ryan was going to win, and Shakespeare in Love came in and won.

[52:07] Adrian Garzillo: Well, that was also a different time.

[52:10] Robert Bannon: In movies, just saying both were great films. I think Saving Private Ryan did deserve to win Best Picture over Shakespeare in Love. Just saying, that's my opinion on that. There. Oppenheimer, I think is just such a well-made film. And again, you know, the Oscars do this. They wait and then they give the actor or the director their due. And I think it's time. I think Christopher Nolan deserves it. I think this is probably one of the best. I mean, Inception is probably my favorite. Oppenheimer is great. I just liked Inception a little bit more. I think it should win. I am excited to see the award season continue. The SAG nominations are this week. I'm a member of the Screen Actors Guild, so I'll vote and I'll even— well, I can't tell you who I vote for, but I can allude to who I vote for.

[53:05] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, we could play like a little game. What does Robert think of these people?

[53:09] Robert Bannon: And then you can guess who I voted for based on my answers. And we'll have so much fun. There's so much fun award show shenanigans that we will have for this season. And you know, the Grammy Awards are my gig. So I'm ready.

[53:22] Adrian Garzillo: I have to brush up on that, Robert. I don't know who some of these people are.

[53:27] Robert Bannon: I feel very— well, we're old.

[53:29] Adrian Garzillo: We're old.

[53:30] Robert Bannon: I was watching, if we can just dare for a moment. I was watching, although I did watch CNN, Andy and Anderson, because what else is there to watch on New Year's Eve? Come on now. I did watch Ryan Seacrest, I recorded it, and oh, they had a lot of musical acts, and they had Thirty Seconds to Mars with Jared Leto. Then they had Green Day, which were amazing, and everyone was like, Who knew Green Day was political? I'm like, well, because American Idiot is like 20 years old.

[53:56] Adrian Garzillo: American Idiot is 20 years old, Robert.

[53:59] Robert Bannon: 20. Me and I used to be at the bar.

[54:02] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, big orange coon.

[54:04] Robert Bannon: But we digress. But there were so many acts. I'm like, I don't know who these people are. They're very talented. I just don't know who they are. The fact that I was at a bar 20 years ago is sad because that means I'm old enough to have been at a bar 20 years ago.

[54:20] Adrian Garzillo: Technically, 20 years ago, I was only 20.

[54:22] Robert Bannon: So I was not legally able to be at a bar. It's for the record, people.

[54:26] Adrian Garzillo: Um, pick us up.

[54:29] Robert Bannon: Moisturize your face so you don't look your age, everybody. It's important to have a skincare routine. Can we say that?

[54:35] Adrian Garzillo: So now, oh wait, wait.

[54:37] Robert Bannon: I don't and I don't moisturize my face.

[54:39] Adrian Garzillo: It's important.

[54:40] Robert Bannon: I actually— I really didn't used to, but now when I see those lines, I'm like, because I don't want to put Botox. Some of them pull it on the Botox.

[54:48] Adrian Garzillo: Some of them, some of them need to.

[54:49] Robert Bannon: See, but you know what my problem with Botox is when I smile, something happened to me. Like, my one side of my lip doesn't— is a little bit less. Like, I think if you do a little bit, I think it really helps. And it definitely can do that.

[55:01] Adrian Garzillo: Well, A has an HD TV that's big, and we watched the red carpet on the HD screen, and people love to tan in LA.

[55:12] Robert Bannon: And yeah, it was— the lenses didn't help them. And you know this is— ask A. She's backstage with me at every show. I never wear makeup really on stage ever, ever, ever, ever. And sometimes I think the guys put makeup on for the red carpet.

[55:28] Adrian Garzillo: Oop, no.

[55:29] Robert Bannon: It doesn't photograph well, it doesn't video well. And if they did like self-tanner or like instead of doing like a spray tan like the ladies do, they— but a lot of them look like orange. Like, you don't need to look like Snooki from the Jersey Shore. Like, a nice glow is fine, but some of them I was like, oh no no. And even some of their— like ladies, you have to like your décolletage, you needed to kind of moisturize that too because that's gonna show. That's when you have like— like Divine with her, you know, like your—

[56:03] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[56:04] Robert Bannon: So it's— it's this area I'm pointing like people can see me. It's your neck and upper chest area if it is showing. That is your décolletage.

[56:11] Adrian Garzillo: Who knew?

[56:13] Robert Bannon: Look, we are gonna be here every— like I said, every single award show from music to the Tonys, Broadway fans. So if you're— if you don't get me, I'm already excited about the Tonys.

[56:13] Adrian Garzillo: Me too, I'm ready.

[56:13] Robert Bannon: So if you are going to be here and the Drama League Awards, we'll even do that. Who cares? We're gonna do it all when you— because we go to the Drama League Awards, the round table. So if you are— if you are watching and listening to us, make sure you follow me at Robert M. Bannon or go to RobertBannon.com. And there's also an IG page for the round table. It's the round table with Robert Bannon on Instagram. Follow us on the Broadway Podcast Network. Watch someone else's podcast, listen to someone else's podcast. There's some great things if you're a theater fan. If it's the Musical Theatre Podcast, if it's On the Record, if it's all these different great podcasts that are here. Adrian's online if you want to fight her about what she said, go to @AMCDisney.

[57:01] Adrian Garzillo: And we will be here Thursday this week if you are around and want to stop by and say hey.

[57:01] Robert Bannon: It's a really fun Broadway-inspired show on the 11th of January where we celebrate two years of the round table with Tony nominee superstar Broadway legend Adam Pascal will be here. So if you want to hear us talk about One Song Glory and what he's like, what his show is like with Anthony Rapp at 54 Below all month long, then you're gonna have to check out the highlights of our past year.

[57:28] Adrian Garzillo: Can you believe the round table's two years old?

[57:30] Robert Bannon: Honestly, I am in shock because it seems like it just started, and I remember you were— you said I'm gonna do this, and I'm so glad that you did because you do such amazing work. You bring so much new information, and we love Broadway. We grew up with Broadway, both of us. And it's just— it's wonderful to hear you bring in the new people and give people and educate people about it and talk about the actor's craft, about the art. And I love the way that you do that.

[58:00] Adrian Garzillo: Thank you.

[58:00] Robert Bannon: You know, the show is a— it's just we're a show about artists talking about art. We're not too gossipy and scandalous. That's what me and A do. But when there's people here that are fancy, we behave ourselves. We have shows on here every single day on the Broadway Podcast Network. So if you want to see the Barricade Boys who come from the West End, if you want to hear Richard Walters, who wrote a great show about the champagne lady that cliquette, that champagne— like he wrote a musical about the person that the champagne is named after, which was a royal in the evening. Courtney Reed's coming up from Aladdin and from Moulin Rouge. Tommy Burke wrote a book about working as an assistant director and now he has Parkinson's disease.

There's all sorts of stuff that are always coming up here. We're gonna have the cast of Peter Pan that's on tour, we're gonna have the cast of The Wiz that's on tour, Robbie Benson from Ice Castles and A Million TV shows are on tour. We're gonna have Diana DeGarmo here for Valentine's Day with her husband Ace Young from American Idol.

[58:50] Adrian Garzillo: Wow, always stuff.

[58:52] Robert Bannon: People showing up here on the round table. So make sure you stick around and we'll have all of our content as well, our awards show gamut.

[58:59] Adrian Garzillo: All right, eh.

[59:00] Robert Bannon: That's it. I'll see you. I'll see you this weekend for Critics Choice Emmy Award Extravaganza. And be ready. Thank you for watching, listening, everybody, and watch us on the YouTube channel. And as always, the best is yet to come. I will see you again next time, right here on the round table.