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[0:10] Robert Bannon: Are you ready? It's the round table with me, Robert Bannon. Oh my goodness, we're back, and it is another edition of the round table. You know, the round table on the Broadway Podcast Network celebrates its hundredth episode this week. And what the hell is going on out here? 100 episodes in September. And we came up with this idea to talk about the award shows because award shows are coming in fast and furious, like Vin Diesel. And we are here with our resident. She called herself something ridiculous. What'd you call yourself?

[0:41] Adrian Garzillo: The talk, the award show queen.

[0:43] Robert Bannon: Yes. I'll take goddess too, either one. Adrian Garzillo is here, and we are talking the Critics Choice Awards and the Emmys and A. There is news. There is gossip. There is shade. So much, so much. First of all, it's a lot when they're like, one was Sunday and one was Monday. Like, that's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot of fashion. That's a lot of people going from one place to the other. And there was a lot happening, Robert.

[1:11] Adrian Garzillo: I was um a few surprises, a few, not a lot, but you know, we'll talk about that.

[1:17] Robert Bannon: Well, I have breaking news. You kind of watched about 14%.

[1:32] Adrian Garzillo: Of both of them or one of them.

[1:35] Robert Bannon: Okay. So, but I saw the highlights, and I fast forward my fast forward game is strong. And I have notes and I'm prepared. And I have shady hot takes.

[1:51] Adrian Garzillo: Do you?

[1:52] Robert Bannon: Oh, yes.

[1:53] Adrian Garzillo: Okay. We're gonna get to it. I'm excited. Let's go. Let's dive in.

[1:59] Robert Bannon: Well, let's talk about the Critics Choice Awards. Firstly, it was hosted by Chelsea Hamler.

[2:04] Adrian Garzillo: New Jersey's own.

[2:05] Robert Bannon: New Jersey's own. The fabulous, the beautiful, she looks stunning. She had a beautiful dress on. And she gave Jersey sass, as Jessica Voss said on this show.

[2:15] Adrian Garzillo: She gave some Jersey sass.

[2:16] Robert Bannon: Tell us about the joke heard round the world.

[2:20] Adrian Garzillo: Go ahead. The joke heard around the world. First of all, she came out, it was Year of the Woman, as she proclaimed, which it was, and I agreed a hundred percent with her because there were so many amazing roles for women in television and movies, and her jokes were phenomenal and were landing, and then she kind of made a little funny about the movie May December, and was talking about whom she enjoys, and she's always talked about if you've read her books and even listened to her stand-up, she does like older men, and she made a little joke about Robert De Niro and Harrison Ford, who was there, and saying that she had the opposite thing of Leonardo DiCaprio, where he likes younger women, she loves older men and said, Oh, you know, blah blah blah.

But there was someone that wasn't there, which was Martin Scorsese, and she said that if he was here, she would toss him around like a little Italian meatball. And then she said, You like that joke? My writers wrote that for me.

[3:28] Adrian Garzillo: Oh shade to Joe Coy.

[3:31] Robert Bannon: Well, Joe Coy and her dated.

[3:35] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, they did, and it was a little underhand veiled nod dig.

[3:42] Robert Bannon: Yeah, it got a lot of play.

[3:44] Adrian Garzillo: It did. And here's the thing that I really enjoyed about her because I was waiting for people to say something about her jokes, meaning, oh, well, so she can talk about men as sexual objects or whatever. She's a comedian. That is what they do. And I do think comedians are getting a really bad rap of late because that's what they've done for years. Go back and watch George Carlin, Sam Kinison. I know people probably have no idea. Google them. They're great. They're really amazing. I'm totally dating myself here. But to the comedians nowadays, you're allowed to do that. But again, women always get shut down because what they shouldn't be talking about that. And Chelsea always breaks those barriers, and that's why I really do like her.

[4:26] Adrian Garzillo: But I think she said that in particularly because that was Joe Coy's mistake. Don't make fun of the writers after everything that they fought for this past year with the strike between the writer strike and the actress strike. And that's why I think she said that. And kudos to her because that was awesome.

[4:45] Robert Bannon: I liked it too. It made me smile and it made me laugh. And you know, it's all in well, it may not be in good fun, but it was entertaining at the least.

[4:54] Adrian Garzillo: Very entertaining. She was her opening was great. A plus. There was another joke that got a lot of attention. And I, Broadway podcast fans, all you little theater fans out there, I'm gonna give a disclaimer that I'm gonna piss you off.

[5:12] Robert Bannon: I am gonna anger the Broadway babies.

[5:15] Adrian Garzillo: So there was a, I don't, I'm not that good at research. There was a young person, a little person, and there was a bigger person. One of the people I knew, and one of the people I didn't.

[5:28] Robert Bannon: I know exactly what you're talking about.

[5:30] Adrian Garzillo: So Bella Ramsey.

[5:31] Robert Bannon: Who's that?

[5:32] Adrian Garzillo: So Bella Ramsey is a lovely actor.

[5:36] Robert Bannon: Well, you live in Ramsey.

[5:37] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, I do live in Ramsey. But they were talking, they were announcing an award, and they were going over the names of the people, and some of them were actors that were singing.

[5:51] Robert Bannon: Like it was not a joke, but continue.

[5:54] Adrian Garzillo: I want to hear your take on this. So she said, you know, there are actors who don't sing but sing in movies, like Ryan Gosling, who is not known for being a recording artist.

[6:06] Robert Bannon: Correct.

[6:07] Adrian Garzillo: Even if he was a new kid with Mickey Mouse, whatever. So she mentioned, they mention Ariana DeBose in this list of people.

[6:20] Robert Bannon: He's a Broadway baby and won an Oscar for West Side Story, and she was in a Bronx Tale, etc. etc. on Broadway.

[6:29] Adrian Garzillo: Mm-hmm.

[6:31] Robert Bannon: And she did not like the joke.

[6:36] Adrian Garzillo: And then she said after that she did not find it funny.

[6:40] Robert Bannon: Do you know why she didn't find it funny?

[6:42] Adrian Garzillo: Because she can't sing, not a great singer.

[6:49] Robert Bannon: Oh, where's the shade button from RuPaul? Come for me, people. This is my hot take.

[6:55] Adrian Garzillo: It's smoking.

[6:57] Robert Bannon: That's right. It is a hot take. Look, she's a very energetic personality.

[7:03] Adrian Garzillo: She's nasty.

[7:07] Robert Bannon: She is a very, she is a very energy, a very famous legend.

[7:15] Adrian Garzillo: Would not come on.

[7:16] Robert Bannon: Hold on. Hold on. She has not learned that, earned that status, Jessica.

[7:20] Adrian Garzillo: No, no, no, no.

[7:21] Robert Bannon: She's a talented.

[7:22] Adrian Garzillo: No, she's not the famous legend.

[7:24] Robert Bannon: A famous legend who shall be unnamed was supposed to come on my show. And Ariana was invited to surprise this famous legend.

[7:36] Adrian Garzillo: And the famous legend said, I will not do your show if she comes on because she is not kind to me.

[7:44] Robert Bannon: Oh, see, that's such a shame. I'm not saying that I've never met Ariana. I've never seen her on a red carpet. I have never interviewed her. She was supposed to come on and do a Bronx Tale reunion and canceled an hour before. She is not somebody who I have any, you know, I'm very proud of her success. She's amazing in West Side Story. She's a good dancer. She has pretty gowns. And she, you know what? She has a lot of energy. And for women, for, I know she's Latina. I think she's also, so she's got a lot going on there for her.

[8:16] Adrian Garzillo: My pod, she's got a little, she's a, yes, and she speaks out, and that's wonderful.

[8:22] Robert Bannon: However, too. Right, but however, my thing was it wasn't a joke. They were reading the teleprompter, and when I saw the look on her face, I'm like, oh, she's gonna tweet about this or ex about it or whatever. And she did, and I'm like, sit down. There is no reason, no, I was, that they did not mean it. It was not written in that way.

[8:44] Adrian Garzillo: She totally took it to a whole other level.

[8:47] Robert Bannon: So I can understand whomever that person was, why they felt that way, because of her that reaction.

[8:52] Adrian Garzillo: Well, Broadway fans and the Broadway Podcast Network does not obviously approve of my messages, but I just want to say that I, that's how I feel we are allowed to have our fandom and opinion. You can at me and come for me. I'm okay. I'm a big guy about it.

[9:06] Robert Bannon: But I don't want to say that she's not talented. I think she's right, she's very talented.

[9:11] Adrian Garzillo: But she's a great actor.

[9:13] Robert Bannon: Yeah.

[9:13] Adrian Garzillo: And she's a great dancer.

[9:15] Robert Bannon: She was great in West Side Story. It was a wonderful thing for her.

[9:18] Adrian Garzillo: But you should watch her do the ham. Remember when Hamilton used to do the lottery and they would come out on the street and sing and dance?

[9:26] Robert Bannon: Yes.

[9:27] Adrian Garzillo: Well go find that clip on YouTube when she came out and did a little song on the side of the street and then you, people won't come for you if you don't come for them.

[9:38] Robert Bannon: And that's my thing. We wouldn't be talking about this if she didn't make it a thing.

[9:43] Adrian Garzillo: Exactly, exactly. But I was, you know what? That did slip my mind, but that was something that was very, very interesting. And briefly, America Ferrara got the See Her Award and gave a really impassioned speech, very sweet good speech.

[9:58] Robert Bannon: What a beautiful speech that was. And I mean, America kind of made the movie, you know, make it have such a better, and I will say this for the director Greta Gerwig and co-writer of the film, she deserves her props. I've watched her films for a long time. She's come a really long way, and it's nice to see a woman have, she can do so many different things. She's not just one type of director. She can do many different stories.

[10:28] Adrian Garzillo: Little Women was great.

[10:28] Robert Bannon: Um, Lady Bird, I think she did as well.

[10:31] Adrian Garzillo: Um, was really, really well, and I'm sure there are others, but this was something where even I was like, Oh god, I wonder what it's gonna be like. And I think people went expecting it to be fluffy, and that's not what this movie was.

[10:44] Robert Bannon: And along with the great music and the set design and the costumes and the casting choices, it was really great. And I'm glad it's having its due. And it was nice that at one point, because they were kind of had a lot of time, that Chelsea wanted to invite them up there, Greta, so she could speak because comedy didn't get to speak, and they didn't put any of those awards on TV.

[11:07] Adrian Garzillo: No, I don't like that.

[11:08] Robert Bannon: There were several that they did that I didn't like, who won, and I thought that was really nice. But Greta, honey, get a better stylist.

[11:14] Adrian Garzillo: The dress was, well, well, she's an artist, she's a quirky, you know.

[11:20] Robert Bannon: Well, you know, um, and Harrison Ford got the lifetime achievement award.

[11:26] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, and Indiana Jones.

[11:28] Robert Bannon: I mean, seeing those movies, Robert, like I mean, we've been fans of him forever.

[11:33] Adrian Garzillo: I forgot some of those movies.

[11:35] Robert Bannon: Yes, I've been a fan. I don't watch any of those movies, but he is a hundred and eighty-six years old, and he deserves to win all of the awards that he can win. And he's still with Calista Flockhart, who looks lovely, and I mean, she looks like she at least ate something since Ally McBeal.

[11:58] Adrian Garzillo: And I, which is good.

[12:00] Robert Bannon: Oh, the shade is real on this show today. But you know, he was so sweet, he didn't have a speech prepared like other people did, which I kind of thought was great. I almost kind of went like he was really overwhelmed, like he was choked up, he didn't really know what to say, but he doesn't go to these things. We haven't, I haven't seen him at an award show in I don't even know how long.

[12:19] Adrian Garzillo: So I think this was a lot for him to get those accolades and to see all of these people, you know.

[12:25] Robert Bannon: You know, we all grew up watching him. So many of those people there were inspired to be like him. And I just, I thought because Han Solo was there, and the new Han Solo, who was in Oppenheimer, I can't think of his name.

[12:42] Adrian Garzillo: It's an interesting name.

[12:43] Robert Bannon: He was there too. So it's, it was just kind of full circle.

[12:46] Adrian Garzillo: Well, I was, I liked it. It made me smile, it was nostalgic.

[12:52] Robert Bannon: I was intrigued that they picked the director of The Last Indiana Jones to give him the award, because I'm sure many people would have loved to have that moment, but maybe they're very close friends.

[13:04] Adrian Garzillo: I'm not being shady, I don't know.

[13:05] Robert Bannon: There's a reason. I mean, he's a great director. Why Steven wasn't there was kind of my, or George Lucas, you know what I'm saying? Like, I kind of found that odd, but maybe they were busy.

[13:18] Adrian Garzillo: Sure.

[13:19] Robert Bannon: So for Best Comedy Special, John Mulaney won for Baby Jay, which was on Netflix, and I was on the John Mulaney thing.

[13:27] Adrian Garzillo: I oh, I apologize. That's my dog Chewy, short for Chewbacca.

[13:32] Robert Bannon: Um, John, I did watch the special, and it was really good. He was very honest and open about his drug use and you know how he kind of overcame that and who helped him.

[13:32] Adrian Garzillo: And it was really, really funny.

[13:48] Robert Bannon: I was highly impressed, and I was happy that he won. I think he's, I hope he can stay clean and I think he will, you know, keep going.

[13:56] Adrian Garzillo: Well, it beats some, that's fine.

[13:59] Robert Bannon: It beats some Broadway, uh, Mike Birbiglia was great in his one-man show, which was on Broadway.

[13:59] Adrian Garzillo: Alex Borstein was great in his one-man show, which was on Broadway.

[14:07] Robert Bannon: And you know, John Mulaney is no stranger to Broadway either. He did Broadway with Nick Kroll and was really as well.

[14:13] Adrian Garzillo: Best Talk Show. You're gonna hear us talk about John Oliver a lot because he's won a lot of awards in 48 hours.

[14:20] Robert Bannon: John Oliver, it's a great show though. If you watch it, I mean he, his, I mean he's more, he because he doesn't really have, I mean he does have some guests, but he's more like he writes it out.

[14:30] Adrian Garzillo: He's got amazing writers, and they're very on topic, and he deep dives into it.

[14:36] Robert Bannon: So it's not really like a talk show, it is more like a variety show.

[14:40] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[14:40] Robert Bannon: And um, it's once a week.

[14:42] Adrian Garzillo: Once a week.

[14:43] Robert Bannon: I like that. Best anime, like the power, no, not even the power balls once a week.

[14:49] Robert Bannon: The best animated series is *Scott Pilgrim Takes Off*, which I've no idea what that is because I don't watch grown-up cartoons.

[14:56] Adrian Garzillo: I don't either.

[14:56] Robert Bannon: I did not. But if you like it, I'm happy for the people out there who like it.

[15:01] Adrian Garzillo: God bless you. Let your fleet free.

[15:02] Robert Bannon: I don't yuck, you're yum, knock your socks off. And um, we if we move to television before we talk about the television awards, um, for the critics' choice. Best supporting actress in a limited series or a movie was Maria Bello for *Beef*.

[15:19] Adrian Garzillo: And you've had her on the show.

[15:21] Robert Bannon: And she's great. She was very sweet. Her acceptance speech was very sweet. I love her.

[15:27] Adrian Garzillo: I do too. I love she was great on I she's been in many. One of my favorite roles that she did was again, *The Cooler* with William H. Macy. Such a great role.

[15:37] Robert Bannon: So, but she's good in everything that she does in reality. She's she is a great actor.

[15:41] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, and best supporting actor. I love this choice in a limited series or movie, was Jonathan Bailey for *Fellow Travelers*.

[15:47] Robert Bannon: If you have not watched *Fellow Travelers*, people, you need to watch *Fellow Travelers*. Watch it. Noah J. Ricketts, Friends of This Show as well. Amazing show.

[15:58] Adrian Garzillo: He was very handsome.

[16:00] Robert Bannon: He might, he might push Pedro Pascal off the Zaddy.

[16:06] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, I think so.

[16:07] Robert Bannon: I think so. His speech was beautiful. Um, I loved his speech. Um, and something that he said, which resonated with me, um, was tell those who you love, tell those you love that you love them before it's too late.

[16:25] Adrian Garzillo: And I really appreciated that. And uh speaking out to the LGBTQ plus IA community uh was wonderful, and he is just one handsome man.

[16:35] Robert Bannon: Okay, best actress in a limited series or movie made for television, Ali Wong for *Beef*, no surprise, *Beef* cleaned up.

[16:43] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, she did. She really, really did. And it's you know, it's nice to see different people win.

[16:50] Robert Bannon: Yes. Same thing with Best Actor in a limited series or movie. It went to Stephen Yeun for *Beef*. So and he beat some heavy hitters, Kiefer Sutherland and David Oyelowo and Tony Shalhoub and uh Twin. It was, you know, it's interesting. I was looking and I was like, wow, like that's a these are really tough categories. See, you had some amazing performances by these actors, which is so great. And I hope if people didn't watch them, um, you know, maybe on a snowy day, um, you know, they will watch them.

[17:20] Adrian Garzillo: Absolutely. Well, best uh agree as much we actually have a landline telephone here, like it's 1946.

[17:28] Robert Bannon: We do too, yes.

[17:31] Adrian Garzillo: It is not my the only people who call are telemarketers. It's gonna tell me now if I call back and give my social security number, I can win a trip to Jamaica.

[17:37] Robert Bannon: Nobody even knows the number, but that's because I'm 40 and live at home with my dad. So who am I to judge Ariana DeBose? Nobody. That's the truth.

[17:44] Adrian Garzillo: Um, best movie made for television was a movie called *Quiz Lady*, which was on Hulu.

[17:51] Robert Bannon: Yes, with um um Sandra Oh and Awkwafina and uh a few others. I did not know of this movie. I'm kind of upset. It looked like it might have been really, really good.

[18:02] Adrian Garzillo: You know, I did SNL with with with Sandra Oh.

[18:05] Robert Bannon: Yes, I remember. I did electric shoes, and we're gonna keep my feelings about Sandra Oh on set to myself.

[18:12] Adrian Garzillo: That's fine. Maybe she was just in her zone in her because it was SNL, and maybe let's just Or maybe she had masking tape all down her sleeves that said, Please don't touch me.

[18:26] Robert Bannon: Um Best Limited series is *Beef*. *Beef* uh for Netflix, which is a good one again, it's cleaned up. Supporting oh best supporting actress in a comedy series went to someone I didn't expect.

[18:42] Adrian Garzillo: Well, I mean, she's won everything, but it it went to Meryl Streep for *Only Murders in the Building*.

[18:50] Robert Bannon: Really? The critics just did that. I'm sorry. I listen, I love Meryl Streep, she's great. Here's Ace disclaimer shading Meryl Streep on this show.

[19:01] Adrian Garzillo: Oh no, listen. Meryl has enough awards. It is time to kind of move along.

[19:07] Robert Bannon: And I look I and you know you and you enjoy *Only Murders in the Building* is a great show.

[19:13] Adrian Garzillo: It is wonderful. We love the casts, they are great. Share the wealth. The critics, no, no, no. Bad choice. Sorry. I was like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

[19:25] Robert Bannon: She wasn't even there. Whatever.

[19:27] Adrian Garzillo: I agree. I'm with you. I don't know. I don't watch *Only Murders in the Building*, but I think I'd like it.

[19:32] Robert Bannon: Oh, you would. It's it's really cute. And they're they're quick, little, they're not super long.

[19:38] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, then I really like it.

[19:39] Robert Bannon: Yes. I lost my oh, best supporting actor in a comedy series went to Ebon Moss-Bachrach for *The Bear*.

[19:45] Adrian Garzillo: No relation to Burt Bacharach. Can I share something about this? Because I rewound just to watch the moment. Um, your friend, Rami Youssef, uh-huh, presented the award.

[19:58] Robert Bannon: And Ebon went up on stage and had a moment and hugged him, and he said it was really special because they both went to the same.

[20:08] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah.

[20:08] Robert Bannon: And I just I think that's great. I think that's great. And Rami was so excited to present it to him. And I just really um, I think that's really awesome.

[20:18] Adrian Garzillo: I was happy to. At William Esper Studio, which is where I went to school, which is where Rami went to school, which is where Ebon went to school, which is where everyone went, a lot of people went to school. Um, they've been saying, you know, Esper graduate wins the critics' choice, etc. for for his work in *The Bear*. Uh it's a two-year conservatory and it is no joke and it'll make you a good actor. So um Barbara Marchant was my teacher. She doesn't really, she's not available, she doesn't do it as much as she used to, but whoo!

[20:44] Robert Bannon: She's and tomorrow, if you're listening to this on Tuesday, um, tomorrow and Wednesday on the round table, I have a conversation with the director and executive director of a group that's doing *Night of the Iguana* by Tennessee Williams off Broadway. And she went to Esper and she knew Barbara, and we have a whole Kiki. So if you're an actor nerd, make sure you tune in.

[21:03] Adrian Garzillo: Um, speaking of *The Bear*, Io, who really has cleaned up, uh, wins best supporting actress in a limited series.

[21:12] Robert Bannon: No. What is what are am I? Best supporting actor in a in a comedy series. Wins.

[21:17] Adrian Garzillo: Oh my god, there's so many papers, eh?

[21:21] Robert Bannon: There is, but I think we can um kind of sum it up that *The Bear* kind of swept. Jeremy Allen White wins for *The Bear*, best actor, *The Bear* wins best comedy series, and um I may have to go cut some vegetables and cook a brisket just to celebrate *The Bear*.

[21:40] Adrian Garzillo: You know, in the gay community, the bear means a whole other thing.

[21:45] Robert Bannon: Oh, yes, it does, and an otter and um I don't know a unicorn. I don't know. I'm not I'm not that literally not a furry.

[21:56] Adrian Garzillo: Oh god, I don't enjoy the hair. That's just me.

[22:00] Robert Bannon: Oh no, no, that's something. Oh no, we're talking about totally different thing. Furry is a thing. Like they get dressed up in the costumes.

[22:08] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, absolutely not. No, and I don't want to see Mickey Mouse do dirty things to Minnie Mouse.

[22:09] Robert Bannon: I don't want to like that either, but that's the Homer be with his sister. That's what is wrong with you, sicklos out there in the world. We don't judge as long as they just Ace said we don't judge.

[22:26] Adrian Garzillo: I had to hit the disclaimer. No, I'm happy. If you enjoy inappropriate videos of Disney characters, then that's let your freak flag fly.

[22:37] Robert Bannon: Anyway. But leave Peter Pan alone, Adrian. Gosh.

[22:40] Adrian Garzillo: That's that's not a bear, that's more of a twink.

[22:45] Robert Bannon: So we I'm getting canceled after the show. Best um supporting actress in a drama series went to Elizabeth Debicki, who was Princess Di in *The Crown*.

[22:56] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[22:57] Robert Bannon: And best actress in a drama series in a much more form fitting appropriate outfit was Sarah Snook for *Succession*.

[23:03] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, amazing outfit at the Critics Award.

[23:06] Robert Bannon: Yes, she was bringing it. It was gorgeous. I love the black with the tux.

[23:10] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, it was lovely, and I was very excited for her. And best actor in a drama series, Kieran Culkin for *Succession*.

[23:15] Robert Bannon: Shout out to everyone at Brookside. You know, I'm trying to get Jacquel Speavy, who is from *Strange Loop* and is a *Mean Girls*. And I talked to him today on the round table. And you know, Brookside represents him, and my friend John Grace over there, and everybody over there. And you know, they represent the Culkins, including Kieran. So I literally, when I sent them an email, I was like, y'all had some week because Kieran Culkin has cleaned up.

[23:36] Adrian Garzillo: Cleaned up.

[23:36] Robert Bannon: Much deserved, though. Very much deserved.

[23:38] Adrian Garzillo: Absolutely. And television best drama series went to as it should to *Succession*.

[23:43] Robert Bannon: Oh, yes. It was as we go to um the movies, you have uh Adrian's best song. She knew it. She was like Miss Cleo. She's called it, and now what's gonna happen at the Oscars? *I'm Just Ken* took the award. Mark Ronson presented it, won it. I was really excited.

[24:04] Adrian Garzillo: I have to say, you know, you know, I love my pools as well. Um for the critics' choice. I was kind of spot on with several of them. And even some of the not so, you know, prominent awards. Um, well, I kind of wanted *Peaches* to win. But he did. My I was hoping for *I'm Just Ken*. Brian Gosling's um reaction was the best. I wish he would have gone up on stage with Mark. He did not. Uh, but he was shocked. I he was definitely not expecting that. It was very fun.

[24:35] Robert Bannon: And best animated feature, surprisingly, maybe, went to *Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse*.

[24:41] Adrian Garzillo: Yes, it did. I I it's really a great animated movie, and and it's really it has some great uh voice actors in there. Uh Oscar Isaac is one of them. Um the the Disney movie *Wish* did not win, featuring the music and singing of Ariana DeBose.

[25:02] Robert Bannon: The song is very pretty.

[25:04] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, beautiful. The lyrics are beautiful.

[25:07] Robert Bannon: Absolutely. I mean, Paris Hilton had an album too.

[25:10] Adrian Garzillo: Um Best Comedy.

[25:12] Robert Bannon: No, she's better than she's a good singer. I'm just being silly. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[25:18] Adrian Garzillo: Best I loved her in *The Prom*.

[25:19] Robert Bannon: I like Ariana in *The Prom*. Best comedy went to *Barbie*, as w I think it's kind of expected ish.

[25:26] Adrian Garzillo: I I mean the whole *The Holdovers* is a good damn good movie.

[25:30] Robert Bannon: It is, but I think *Barbie* just has way more momentum.

[25:32] Adrian Garzillo: Me too. And *Oppenheimer* wins best visual effects, as it it probably should. And Best Hair and Makeup went to *Barbie*, and Best Costume went to *Barbie*, and Best Editing went to *Oppenheimer*, which I mean We knew.

[25:47] Robert Bannon: You knew. And best production design went to *Barbie*, and best uh uh cinematography went to *Oppenheimer*. I mean it's so speaking of since we're on an *Oppenheimer* uh thing, um RDJ, you know, my my buddy, um Downey Jr. as opposed to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Um I thought, you know, he he gives a good speech, and when he went up there and recited what some critics over the years have that was great.

[26:17] Adrian Garzillo: Funny.

[26:18] Robert Bannon: He is, and you know, he i he his and and I think people like you know forget back in the day, he was very funny. He did a lot of comedies, you know, like *Weird Science*, and like he had really quirky roles, and then he became I mean *Tropic Thunder*, one of them. Come on.

[26:34] Adrian Garzillo: Uh he gets shade about that. I mean, people have feelings about how it's aged, but he's defended it recently.

[26:41] Robert Bannon: He did he went he was on, I think Joe Rogan's uh podcast and defended the movie, and and he will continue to defend it. And kudos to him. But I thought it was hysterical that he did that.

[26:52] Adrian Garzillo: I do too. And I'm I'm very uh interested to see his speech at the Oscars if he is to win the Oscar.

[26:59] Robert Bannon: Yes. Um the adapted screenplay went to *American Fiction*, which I can't wait to see. I'm very excited to see adapted uh *American Fiction* and best original screenplay went to *Barbie*. And that surprised me a little bit.

[27:14] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, interesting.

[27:15] Robert Bannon: Very I mean, over air and *Past Lives* and *The Holdovers* and my interesting best acting ensemble went to *Oppenheimer*, which ever lots of oh famous people are in that movie.

[27:26] Adrian Garzillo: Yeah, our buddy David Crumholtz was right up there. We met him at the Drama League Awards.

[27:31] Robert Bannon: He hates me because I I called him Buddy the Elf.

[27:35] Adrian Garzillo: Bernard.

[27:36] Robert Bannon: Oh, Buddy is the other is Will Ferrell. Buddy is Will Ferrell. Oh, if I called him Buddy the Elf, that would have really gone over.

[27:42] Adrian Garzillo: That's always another book. We do we we love David Crumholtz. He's a very he was very nice. He came over and had a lovely chat with you, even though you did bring up Bernard.

[27:49] Robert Bannon: I'm engaged, I'm engaged, and before we catch this part of the show, my fiancé who lives in Detroit called, and Adrian told him he was from Chicago, which you know, anyone from these cities, that is like saying, I'm gonna punch your mother in the face, Adrian. That's like someone saying Adrian gets mad when she goes to a concert in New Jersey and they say, Hello, New York.

[28:12] Adrian Garzillo: Oh, that's a very big big pet peeve of mine.

[28:14] Robert Bannon: But I said Chicago because we were talking about television, and tomorrow night because it's finally coming back, is *Chicago Wednesday* on NBC, and I'm a huge *Chicago Fire* fan and *Chicago Med* and *PD* a little bit, but I love *Chicago Fire*, and I got confused. This is Adrian's um PR, PR uh twist. Best young actor or actress. So Darius, we know you're from Detroit. Darius Detroit, no C's is um Dominic Sessa.

[28:45] Adrian Garzillo: Speaking of D and Detroit.

[28:47] Robert Bannon: I called it, I said he was gonna win. And I'm sorry, they didn't even televise his speech.

[28:52] Adrian Garzillo: That's no, nay nay, don't like that.

[28:55] Robert Bannon: Best supporting actress, she's taking this ball and running it to the to a touchdown. Divine Joy Randolph, who's so good. If you haven't seen the whole and she looked even more beautiful. This dress was stunning on her. And I love her speech. It's so heartfelt, and I'm just so excited for what can happen for her.

[29:11] Adrian Garzillo: She's great.

[29:12] Robert Bannon: She's great. Surprise best actress a little bit. What it went so I think there's two surprises, two shockers.

[29:18] Adrian Garzillo: Yes.

[29:19] Robert Bannon: I I'm thrilled for Emma Stone. We both enjoy her. She's a great, great actress. And I think she was surprised as well. And then Paul, I mean, meaning surprised over Lily Gladstone, who has had a lot of momentum for the Oscar.

[29:31] Adrian Garzillo: And then Best Actor.

[29:32] Robert Bannon: Oh my god, I wanted to watch Lily Gladstone. But I when I see three hours, and it's on Apple streaming for free.

[29:38] Robert Bannon: But when I see three and a half hours, oh my gosh. I can't wait to watch it. If it says three hours, boop, press play. You know me. Give me, give me an extended cut of Lord of the Rings. I'm there. Oh no, take that ring, take Death Health and stick it up your furry. Best actor is best actress, Paul Giamatti for the whole thing. I was so excited for he deserves it. He's such a great actor. This was such a great role for him to play. And I just he's such a cute little man. I love him, and he deserves to win for this. I didn't see Oppenheimer because again, three hours, but Paul Giamatti, I'm sure Cillian Murphy is bananas good in Oppenheimer. Yes, he is. Paul is gonna give him a run for his money come Oscar time for sure.

But this was also something, you know, this was Critics Choice. I actually thought it was gonna be between Bradley Cooper and Paul Giamatti. I think because Cillian is kind of almost a lock for Oscar. This would be the one time where it could go to someone else. So I'm glad they chose Paul. There you and then oh oh oh director and movie went to Oppenheimer and Oppenheimer and Oppenheimer and it is time. Christopher Nolan deserves his props. There you go. So that's the Critics Choice Awards. If you're still with us, and I haven't insulted someone you love, we're gonna talk about television. Oh wait, time we do just if you can give me just like two minutes about the red carpet at the Critics Choice Awards.

Go ahead. Because um, there were a few moments that were had um on the critics uh on the red carpet, and um I'm just gonna go through this very quickly. Again, the men have been bringing it on the carpets, and it's about time because we love a good tuxedo, but we need more color, gentlemen. Mark Ruffalo, navy blue suit, totally adorable. Cillian Murphy, um was just amazing. Um, oh, and can we just talk a moment? Greta Lee, she looked fantastic as well. She had on like a sparkly black pantsuit, um, and she was a triple nominee at the Critics' Choice Awards. It was fantastic. Now, this is the moment I want to talk about. Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon were there for The Morning Show. Oh, and Billy Crudup won for The Morning Show.

I was so excited about that. Um, I think I think she had a little bit of a facelift. Jennifer Aniston. That's what the blogs are saying. Because her face looks super different, and she's not speaking like she was speaking weird. It was just, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she had Botox or something, but she definitely looked different. She looked gorgeous. Of course, her usual black. She always wears black. Reese looked gorgeous, but my favorite person, Pedro Pascal, kind of snuck over with his stone-colored um monochromatic look, and he didn't want to talk to the red carpet person. He wanted to talk to Jennifer and Reese, and they had a little moment where he's like, I want to be on The Morning Show.

And then they were like, Oh, like what happened to your arm? And he completely ignored the interviewer. And he was talking to them, and they were Reese was so into it, it was really kind of funny. And then he's like, Okay, like kisses or whatever. And he's like, No, seriously, like let my agent know. He wanted to be on The Morning Show, and I just thought that moment was really funny. And then Jennifer's like, well, now he's gone. We would have hired him and then he left. It was really funny. I thought that was a really cute moment um on the carpet. See, I love that. And see Katrin gave shade too. So don't only come for me. You can come for her at AMC Disney. AMC Disney, yes. Um, but I think that's kind of it.

I think everybody else looked great. Um, wait, there is one other person I have to speak of. Matt Bomer. He was in an electric blue, again, monochromatic, down to his shoes suit with a color band. Oh, please. He he and again, um, Jonathan Bailey, they're just killing it on the red carpet. No, well, you've got to have a good gay on the carpet. They're not just gonna show up looking like a slovenly mess. Oh, no, no. He was, yeah. Well, let's talk about the Emmys. The Emmys, um, speaking of excitement, and I want to preface this by saying, I have been watching award shows since I'm a little little girl, a little A. Now I'm a big A. Um, this was the best Emmys I've seen. Oh, so good in 10 or 15 years.

It was, they did such an exceptional job. Exceptional. But let me just say something. Yes. Uh there's some very good television. And you know, TV is not my fullback. I'm not a binge TV. I watch a show and I watch one show at a time. Usually I don't watch like I prefer to do that too. And um, I I don't like love television. I'm not up on the television thing as much. But what I will say is that the excitement that the show had, which was a great show with the reunions and the people it was a celebration of the Emmys. But what makes me sad about that A is that we are either old or which is true, or we miss the days of better television because when you see Cheers and when you see Martin and when you see these shows, you're like, oh, I want you know, when you see Marla Gibbs come out, it takes you to a different place where television is America's medium.

The movies are the movies, and theater is theater, but everyone in the world has access, like in this, not everyone, but you know, people have access to a television. You don't need to buy a hundred fifty dollar theater ticket, you don't even need to buy a $20 AMC ticket. You can go home and watch TV. And now it's up on our phones and on our computers. And I I loved that they are television. I thought that was the I I want them to do that every year. But if you if you look at who they had come out, the majority of them were comedy. You had All in the Family. Legendary. You had Martin, which was great. And I love the photo that they had of someone that was no longer with us. They had the remembrance of them there.

I thought that was great. You had Cheers. That was awesome. You had, you know, um, but those are those were so, and I guess we didn't realize it at the time. Those were pivotal, pivotal television shows that really shaped America back then. I hope with what we have now with Abbott Elementary. Um we need to have good shows again. And the writing is out there. We need to have these studio execs need to pay attention to these young writers like like Quinta Brunson, who's an amazing writer. She Abbott Elementary is a great, great show. And it's something that everybody can watch. That's what it I watched it with my parents. We don't need to separate. Let's let's bring that unit together and let's watch it with your family.

And that's what I think needs to happen. Well, I liked, I liked it a lot. I liked the show, and I liked and a lot of the shows that they that have they had come out, like Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Martin, Arsenio Hall. People never nominated for an Emmy. Never nominate Always Sunny never nominated, Martin never nominated, none of them ever winning. I I think it was a nice, it was a nice moment. Anthony Anderson is um very fun and very much better at hosting than than some other hosts of late. Like he is a very charismatic, but you know, he does host some game shows, and I will say I think that the cherry on top was his mama, and that was just such a great um, you know, and I I love uh their relationship together.

And even when she wasn't supposed to say something, she said something, and I just think that was adorable. He did a great and even the opening, he did great, he played piano. Yes, and I I sang. I think you should thank your mom and Jesus not in that order and get off the stage as well. I you know, or whomever you believe is up there, even if it's whatever. Um, you you were very moved by the immemorium. I know they did the friends, the um I'm not giving my hot take, whatever. I mean, that was a it was Charlie Puth is a choice, and you you there was a lot of very significant famous. Oh, that that even I I watched it with my mom, and and we were watching it, and she she didn't. I said, Yeah, Kirstie Alley.

She goes, No, Kirstie. I said, No, mom, it was last year. I mean, Kirstie Alley, Suzanne Somers, um, Norman Lear. I mean, I thought they would do something a little more special for Norman Lear, but I I mean I get it. I mean, you could do a whole hour for him, but they did kind of pay homage in the beginning as well. Anthony Edwards did that, and then with um Meathead and uh Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers, and they had his hat hanging on the on the coat rack. So I thought that was very nice. Um it was nice to see Sally Struthers, you know, not doing Hello Dolly, not doing Hello Dolly in a main community theater somewhere. I know, I love that. She deserves more credit because she, you know, she made the yes, you the videos and South Park made fun of her, and you know, the the food, and that was firstly, how are we making fun of trying to feed people in this world?

Yeah, secondly, she is on one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time. She gets a bad rep sometimes. I rep for Sally Struthers. Sally Struthers come on The Roundtable. Yes, yes definitely I I thought that was great I think the reason why I was emotional um I recently lost a very good friend of mine and when they when I heard Charlie Puth I said oh no he's gonna sing that song that song came out the year my grandmother passed oh the fast and the furious song it's a beautiful song and I do like Charlie Puth I think he's great and then the other two the couple that sang they are Warren Treaty Warren oh my gosh I mean that was just beautiful and then I I you know and it's just like you know Leslie Jordan and Steven Twitch you know Twitch just it was just very sad to see Andre Braugher.

There were so many people and then then he started I'm gonna get emotional when he started singing I'll be there for you I'm like it's just sad because it it didn't have to happen that way and I think that's you know it still resonates with people it's very hard when when you lose uh someone that people you know BTS they learned English by watching friends and that's that's insane when you think about that like they learned it by again we were talking about by watching television now the tea that I'd like to spill is there was supposed the friends were supposed to be there together and they were not oh so because my mom's like where are they now I don't know if they didn't attend because of what recently came out about Matthew Perry.

I don't know how true that is maybe they didn't maybe it was too much for them maybe they they couldn't do it. Well that it was definitely a a very poignant moment and um and and then Elton John wins his ES, which I mean his special farewell from Dodger Stadium, which was on Disney Plus, uh his last concert in North America and ended his goodbye yellow brick road tour. He he has won uh a bunch of Grammys. Obviously, he has won the Oscar for The Lion King, he's won the Tonys for The Lion King and Aida, etc. And now he wins his Emmy. So he's the newest member of the Egot family. That was just wonderful and amazing. And I did text you because I know you you love singing. And and I, you know, I texted my husband because we got to go see this tour at Giant Stadium, and it was amazing and wonderful.

And he is well, I mean, we grow up listening to listen. I'm still standing as one of my favorites. That's one of your favorites. You love to sing it as well. It's it's just it's so well deserved. I can't believe he didn't have one before this, but kudos to Sir Elton John. Um, yes, come on, Robert Show. I've tried to, oh yeah, and then and then Jesus. I I I um I was ready to retire. I'm still standing from my shows because you know it's on my rewind album, which you can stream now. And then I was like, I'm done with this song, but people like it. It's a fun little song, it gets people going. It gets the it gets the children going. It does. Well, the award they gave out awards too to go over, you know.

Um they give out a lot of TV awards, but to go over some of the the fun, the fun ones for sure. Um, best supporting actress in a limited series. A A was called it, A's wanted it, A was insistent about it, A got may have gotten her six inch nails done for it because she loves Nisi and Misy Nash wins. Um I cried with her. I cried first of all, she looks stunning. I mean, she she I was hoping for some color, but she her and her wife, they looked beautiful together. They were on the red carpet, and I was fighting for my niece because she is a great actress, and that speech uh, you know, that speech spoke to me as well, and I am very privileged. And I just and then her after when she went backstage and they were interviewing her, it was even better.

And because they said, Well, you know, why did you and she said, Because no one knows how hard I worked to get there. No one knows how many times people said no to me because of this, because of that, because I'm a woman because of, you know, and she didn't make it a racial thing. It wasn't about that, but she just said, and I'm older, and she goes, I had to fight to get where I was. And she says, it's not them love, it's not um they love, it's self-love. And I'm like, come on, girl, come on. I just I just adore her. I liked it, and I and she's brilliant. She was brilliant in Dahmer. Um, and then outstanding supporting actor in an anthology or limited series went to Paul Walter Hauser for Blackbird.

Did you see his speech? Yeah. He was eating right before he went up, or he made out with his wife for like a minute. Listen, he listened he's a funny guy. He's in Cobra Kai. He was in Cruella, and then he did Blackbird. Uh, you know, I was hoping for my Ray Liotta. Um but that's okay. Uh, but I do also believe he won the Golden Globe last year when it was um up. So hey, kudos to him. Good for him. And this outstanding supporting actress, you had said maybe they were gonna cancel each other out, but no, the the Jennifer Coolidge won for White Lotus. She gave a little tea too afterwards because she really did a definitively say she will not be back there. No, for the next season of the White Lotus.

Well, that character is dead. Yes. So the character she played. That doesn't mean she can't come back and be a different character. Like an American Horror Story. They may die, but then they come back and they play a different character story. That's true. But it was well deserved. She was so phenomenal. And who did she thank? The evil gays. If you know you know that that's really funny. And then mama was like, time to go. Your speech is too long.

[44:27] Robert Bannon: Evil gay right here at this hour of this show. Outstanding supporting actor in a drama series went to Matthew McFadden in Succession, which we’re here for. We've been here for him. He's such a creepy, skeevy, dumb, smart. He's everything in Succession. I mean, the writing, and again, you have to really call it to these writers. The writing for this show was so phenomenal. And, uh, Jesse Armstrong, I believe, is the showrunner and put it all together. Uh, these characters were so, and he gave a little tea too, and it was some of his speeches as to who would that it might have been about, um, which we all kind of had a feeling, um, Uber Murdoch. Um, but I thought, um, yeah, I was happy for them.

I was happy for all of all of six Succession people. Yeah, they're gonna sweep it up. We're gonna talk about the same people we just talked about 20 minutes ago. Outstanding supporting actress went to Io, uh, for The Bear, and best, uh, best, um, Ebon Moss-Bachrach won for The Bear supporting actor. Yes. Um, did I miss a page? I don't think so. Outstanding lead actress in a limited series or anthology went to Ali Wong for Beef, and Stephen Yeun won for Beef, and outstanding lead actor, uh, in a lead actress. I'm sorry, some of the ink did not come in when I printed this. Went to Sarah Snook for Succession. Who looked absolutely stunning in that red gown? It was Vivian Westwood, and she looked absolutely amazing.

Kieran Culkin wins for best lead actor in a drama series. Can we just, so one of the, uh, early presenters of the evening, which of course made my day, was, uh, Pedro Pascal. Um, and he came out and he kind of shared a little tea himself. He got bleeped because he kind of said a curse word, and he came out and said, I'd like to talk about me for a moment. And he said, I want to talk about my arm. My arm is not injured, it's my shoulder. And he kind of did a little side look to like, yes, it's my shoulder, not my arm. And he wanted to clear up because everyone's been asking him how it happened. And he goes, Well, I'm going to tell you all now, and I'm going to curse. You can bleep me if you want to.

Um, he said that Kieran Culkin beat the shit out of him. And it panned to Kieran, and he was right in it. It was his Roman face. It was so fantastic. And then they cut back to Pedro, and then they cut back to Kieran who was laughing. And that was like Chef's Kiss. That was perfect because they had a little back and forth at the Golden Globes. And I just, I loved it so much. I thought that was great. It was a fun moment. Best outstanding lead actress, an emotional, uh, Quinta Brunson won for Abbott Elementary. Really a beautiful speech. What a, what a really, and when she brought Marla Gibbs out and they had that moment and everyone stood for Marla Gibbs when they presented. No, no, no. That was Carol Burnett that presented it to her.

No, but then Quinta presented with Marla. Right. Later. But Carol Burnett gave Quinta her award, and she said, but I don't know why I'm emotional. Maybe I'm emotional because Carol Burnett's here, etc. But yes, I'm just, yes. Well, it was also a monumental win for Quinta. Yeah. I mean, well, no, no. It had been 30 years since a woman of color won in that category. Yeah. Says a lot. A lot. Hopefully, change will come. Um, absolutely. Acting awards, uh, for best actor in a comedy series went to Jeremy Allen White, of course, for The Bear. Um, Outstanding Scripted Variety series went to John Oliver. Um, and Outstanding Talk Show went to Trevor Noah. That was a little bit of a surprise. I, I, well, I love Trevor Noah.

And, uh, you know, and he was actually asked in the back room, you know, they were like, Oh, with this election year, you're gonna leave us hanging. And he says, I'm not leaving you hanging. He goes, look at all of these amazing people behind me. He goes, they, they, they are what made me do this. And he goes, You'll be fine. He's like, you'll have all these wonderful people here that will get you through. He goes, but I'm hopeful of this next election, uh, election year, which I thought was great. And I, I, I adore Trevor Noah. I think he's really wonderful. Um, here we go. Outstanding Limited or Anthology series went to Beef. And before we get to, well, there's no surprise who won before we get to Outstanding Reality Competition Show, which we'll end with that, because, uh, we'll end on that note, but Outstanding Drama, because drama and comedy are not a surprise.

The Bear won comedy, right? Succession wins drama. So Outstanding Reality Competition. If you listen to our, our intro, our predictions. Well, wait, before can I just, one other thing, because with Quinta, I do want to talk about the first presenter of the night who was escorted out, uh, by Anthony Anderson, which was Christina Applegate. And Christina Applegate, uh, I didn't think she was, I was, I was hoped she would win for Dead to Me. Um, but she has MS and usually she does not attend these things, and I was so happy to see her there. And I also think she was kind of repping for Married with Children and things like that. And, um, she kind of gave some really good one-liners there because everyone obviously stood up, uh, and applauded her.

And then she said, Oh my gosh, um, you should all be canceled because you're standing up and, and because of her disability, which I thought was very funny. And then she said, This body is not bio-sympic. And I was like, kudos to you, Christina, because that was really very, very funny. And I think then she introduced Carol Burnett, and then Quinta won. So I think Quinta had a lot of emotions going on in that moment, and I think that's kind of why she was emotional. But I was so happy to see Christina Applegate there because I know she's really been going through it with her, um, multiple sclerosis, um, diagnosis. Absolutely. And, uh, and best competition, uh, show went to RuPaul's Drag Race, which I said in the preview show that I'm not the world's largest fan of, not because I don't like drag, but I just think it is a intriguing.

It's a competition reality show. So there are, you know, some of it is a little scripted. But, and some of it isn't about drag to me, and some of it is, I mean, we're a little filthy and body and cheeky on this show too, but some of it has gotten drag to me, is you're on stage in a club working as an entertainer. Like, you know, it is, it is, it is, it's the same thing with singing. You know, there's many TikTok stars, there's many YouTubers who have millions and millions of followers, but don't put them on a stage in front of an audience because they can't perform. Or, or sew an outfit, yeah, or sew an outfit. And I think drag is one of those things too. You know, it should go to the queens that are out there, you know, busting their ass every night in a bar in a club, you know, performing for six people to make $20 and sewing an outfit at home.

Um, but, but kudos to the show. The show is amazing. Rue, Rue comes up, Rue and a bunch of queens and all of the guests and the whole shebang. All the hosts, Ross Matthews was there, Carson, Michelle Baff. Yes. So, um, and Rue said something very poignant as well. Yes. Well, this is my shady comment, Adrian. Oh, RuPaul, another not nice person, is that you are the most famous drag queen in the entire world. You, you practically are synonymous with drag. And I sometimes get on the show because I feel like Rue tries to walk a fine line. She's not political, she's not very political. She says a little bit sometimes about politics. She did a little video and a little this and a little that, and yes, she said if a drag queen goes to your library and tell very, very valid.

But Rue, and A is gonna disagree with me. She's on national television in front of millions and millions of people. She could have taken that moment to say there are hundreds of drag anti-drag bills, but that's not spoken about anymore because we’ve lost that battle. But you could have had the moment to talk about the queer community, you could have had the moment to talk about the political community, and yes, Drag Queen Story Hour is important and should be done, but it is such a small mini part of drag and the fight against drags and the queer community at large. And sometimes I get annoyed at the RuPaul because I think she has a very big platform, and I sometimes think she chickens out to really put her neck out on the line.

At the end of every Drag Race show, uh, of the past at least two or three seasons, she has come out with the queens that are still safe, and it's go vote. And I think, I think this new season, because they did take a moment, and I think with the, um, the strike, they kind of waited and needed to regroup because a lot of people were like, it's, you know, you know, I don't enjoy it as much. I think this new season, they're gonna talk about it a lot more because a lot of the contestants are talking about it, and it's really important. And, but I maybe because of the big award of the evening, the governor's award, because I did not know this. I was actually quite surprised, um, when I saw who won the governor's award.

Yeah, GLAD wins, GLAD won the Governor's Award. Yeah. And you know, we still live in a time in a place where, you know, people's sexuality is contested. There are many people who do not feel comfortable to be out and are safe in public, and drag or not, trans, uh, or not, gay, straight, lesbians, non-binary, uh, you know, bi, etc. Pansexual, you know, anything that is a part of the LGBTQIA plus community, there's still a battle and debate. There are people still talking about fights that we should have won and been over. It's the same thing with race, it's the same thing with gender, it's the same thing with religion. And, um, you know, Hollywood gets a bad reputation sometimes because they are very liberal, but they're, they're, I don't think it's always about just liberal politics.

I think it's about artists or artists, regardless of who they love, what color they are, where they come from, what gender they are, and good art that touches us is, uh, so valuable and important because it is, if you agree with the characters or not, um, it is a slice, it is a page, it is a piece of life, and that's what art is about. We get so much education from our art. No one would know about Oppenheimer, no one would know about, uh, you know, you know, we, you know, different religions if it wasn't for those shows, different cultures if it wasn't for those shows. You know, the role of an artist is very important, and I think that we have to give kudos and credit to the people who write it, direct it, produce it, and act in pieces that show us humanity.

The president of GLAD spoke about that, and I, I really, I enjoyed her speech very much, and it's, it's very important, and I think they've definitely, uh, come a long way, and, and they now have people, you know, like, you know, the wording is changing now, and, and people are trying to be more respectful, especially for those that are non-binary, and, and say, you know, what are your pronouns? What, what do you prefer? And I, I do think sometimes, especially for someone because transgenders, she spoke a lot about that, is that people are, there's fear, and you're afraid of what you don't know. And I agree, that is a very true statement. But we don't need to be afraid, they're not going to hurt you.

And there are certain people in this world, in this country, who want you to be afraid, and they keep putting out a narrative about that. And it's people like GLAD and allies of GLAD, which is myself, who will come on and say, cut it out. It's, it's ridiculous. There is zero reason for you to be worried about the, there are other people that we need to be more worried about. Transgender people are not violent, but they have to worry about violence being put upon them because people are afraid of what they're going to do. They're not going to hurt your children in a bathroom. No. Well, it's a white male pedophiles that are going to do that, who are straight men. Just saying. We, we have had a lot of conversations on The Roundtable.

Uh, go back and look at the conversation with Funky Deneva and stuff like that. There's a lot of narratives that no one, the bathroom battle is not, and, and the, and Drag Queen Story Hour are not the biggest fights for the, for this community. There's bigger fights, but we focus on these things because we like to teach people fear and fear gets people to vote and gets people to stay in power. So vote and support your world with your dollar and with your voice and with your art because you can, we need all of that. Support local art, right? Support local art. We always need to support local art, support local art and community, especially no matter where you are. And go to the movies nowadays.

Listen, even if you have to wear a mask because COVID's still around, wear that mask, but go, go on a matinee. You know, don't pay if you can't pay the full price for a ticket. Go see a movie because movies, movie theaters are dying out too. And, and seeing a movie in a theater depending on the movie is a really just like Broadway. There is nothing like it sometimes, depending on the movie. But sometimes you can just stay home and watch Netflix too. That's true. Do you? But support art today. A's interviewing me for our hundredth episode. She's gonna interview me. She's gonna ask all the questions. I'm, I'm gonna answer honestly and truthfully. So hold on to your hat. Friday will be a hundred episodes.

So, uh, if you're looking to, um, be entertained for a moment, make sure you check us out. I'm here every single day. We have great guests coming up. We have Tony winners, Oscar winners, Emmy winners, all sorts of winners, drag queen winners. We have all sorts of people here on The Roundtable all the time. I want to interject just a moment before you finish because I want to redeem myself with Mr. Darius because I made a special note on the red carpet of this actor. His name is Sam Richardson. He won for guest starring on Ted Lasso, and he had this beautiful white jacket on. And it was like grayscale. That's the type of, uh, I believe that was the designer of it. And when, uh, Laverne, uh, Cox was speaking to this gentleman, she called him the King of Detroit because that is where he is from.

And I made a special note because I wrote down King of Detroit. So see, I knew that's what I'm just saying. Darius, I got you. I got you, buddy. Don't you worry about that. Just wanted to say. Well, check us out all week here. Uh, and The Roundtable is live Thursday nights at seven o'clock Eastern, four o'clock Pacific on YouTube, as well as the rest of the show this week. Robbie Benson is here for the hour. So if he's the voice of the beast, he's stars of Ice Castles, he's a movie star, TV star, writes music, etc. So Robbie Benson will be here. Make sure you check by. Stop by and say hello. Go to RobertBannon.com, go to @RobertMBannon or @TheRoundtablewithRobertBannon. If you want to yell at me for being mean to Ariana DeBose.

If you want to talk to Adrian and go to @AMCDisney on Instagram and, uh, she'll, there's my dog. And we will, I'm gonna go get him and we will talk to you real soon. The best is yet to come. Thank you all for being here. And we'll have more room shows. Bye.