On this episode Jose talks to Grace McLean, the composer and star of In the Green, a musical about medieval saint Hildegarde Von Bingen, a composer, exorcist. and doctor of the church who spent most of her childhood in a tower. The cast recording is out now, you can stream it wherever you get your music, or you can buy a CD version as well (those will be released later this year).

Grace spoke about the new subject she's been fascinated in during quarantine, shared insight on her writing, and what it was like to give voice to a woman who challenged societal and religious norms on what women were supposed to do.