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To day we're tackling one of these
sneakiest acting problems on this
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earth, one that has taken down even the
most talented people,
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one that shows up at the worst possible
time, usually right when you hit record.
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We're talking about
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overthinking,
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you know, that mental spiral where
suddenly your brain is narrating your
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audition like it's doing play by play
commentary during the super bowl.
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Here comes the second line.
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Careful, careful.
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Don't mess this up.
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Oof.
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Eyebrow.
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Twitch.
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Bad.
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reset, reset.
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Overthinking is the enemy of presence,
the enemy of impulse, the enemy of surprise.
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It's like having a backseat driver take
over your brain while you're trying to
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actually drive the car.
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So let me ask you a question.
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When you are really living in a moment,
I mean, like, really living it.
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Do you think about it while you're in
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No, no.
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You just live it.
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You notice the other person, you feel
the emotion.
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You react like a human, not like a
student trying to pass a final exam.
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That's the shift we're going to make
today, from thinking the moment to
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owning the moment.
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This is casting actor's caste.
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Well, hello, and welcome to today's
episode of casting actor's caste I'm
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casting director Geoffrey driesbach,
I'm a teacher, a former actor as well
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as an author of a couple of books on
acting.
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It's really great having you here
today.
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Welcome to this particular episode.
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I think you're going to get a lot out
of it.
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But first, this is that moment of the
conversation where I get to say thank
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you for tuning in to casting actors.
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Cast.
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It's been a pleasure bringing you these
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You can watch me on YouTube actually do
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So if you like the visual of that, you
know, not too shabby.
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Why don't you give that a try as well.
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If you're listening on the Broadway
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to be part of this really wonderful
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Do check out some of the other
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network.
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I think you're going to find all kinds
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for you to check out.
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Also, I just wanted to say, please take
a look at the website, if you would,
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it's casting actor's cast all one word,
dot com, casting actress, cast dotcom.
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You're going to find a course that's
available.
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And my new book is out also.
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There's a form that says dive into the
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If you do that that's just going to
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Absolutely free as a book.
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I'm doing voice over work as well as a
video called casting secrets.
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What they don't tell you,
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finally, there's jeff's jots.
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Now that's the corresponding blog on
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the episodes.
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They're actually the notes that I make
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when I put these episodes together.
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So you can literally have a kind of a
cheat sheet, kind of something that
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becomes an excellent reference for the
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Those are downloadable,
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absolutely free.
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I guess what I'm trying to do over
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close to 400 episodes of the podcast,
is I just try to get
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a group of actors to feel more
comfortable and more confident and to
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understand the workings of what's going
on in the industry, both in the
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psychological terms for actors, but
also literally in the business of the business.
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And in that way,
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you might feel more comfortable, you
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more alive, you might feel
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that you belong.
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And that's exactly what I'm hoping
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happens.
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So continue to listen, please.
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Every view would be great.
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By the way, there's a form that I said,
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I've gotten all kinds of really nice
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many actors.
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please let me know.
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By doing that and going to casting
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I think that's everything.
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Thank you for letting me do that.
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Let's talk.
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When we talk about
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the moments that we're talking about,
we need to talk about the psychological
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aspect, the psychological truth.
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First of that,
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the reality is that your brain wants
control.
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So it's wired for survival, it's
constantly
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scanning for danger and mistakes
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and auditions.
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They feel like danger.
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So what does the brain do?
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It overfunctions,
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it takes over,
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it micromanages.
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But you have to understand that acting
happens in your body, in your breath,
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in your heart.
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Thinking is preparation.
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Feeling and responding
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is the work.
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being in the moment becomes so
important.
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But how do you shut off that mental
commentator?
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How do you do it?
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Guess what?
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You don't.
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Sorry,
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you simply make it less important.
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You make it irrelevant.
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You override it by having a very clear,
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Now, what do I want from the other
person is a great question that you
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ask.
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What does your character want from the
other character?
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Here's another one.
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How does what they say
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change me
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when you ask that in question?
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Internally?
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In other words, you're replacing your
inner monologue
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with an interesting dialogue.
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Here's another one, what do I do
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because of the situation I find myself?
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Those are actionable
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questions, you see.
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They take you out of self evaluation
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that's key
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here's another helpful truth.
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I think
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your impulses are smarter
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than your plans.
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See, every actor has experienced that
moment.
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When something happens you didn't
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Do you remember those moments?
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It's like.
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It could be like a laugh
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or a pause or a painful shift.
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And guess what?
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Suddenly the scene becomes alive.
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That is what we're chasing.
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Not the perfectly mapped out, pre
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but the living one.
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All right, so let's go deeper.
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What causes overthinking?
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For actors,
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you wonder that
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fear being wrong,
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fear of being judged,
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fear of being boring fear of looking
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Fear of not booking fear.
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it's loud.
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And fear makes you think instead of do.
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But guess what,
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the only wrong choice is the choice
you're afraid to commit to.
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I would like to offer a simple technique
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before you start a tape, or you walk
into a room, say this out loud.
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I am here to tell the truth,
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not to be perfect.
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When you do that, it frees your nervous
system.
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This restores your breath, this invites
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Now let's just take a quick look at how
overthinking physically shows up.
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We're going to tackle that right after
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Welcome back.
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So when overthinking, how does that
show up?
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What is it manifests itself
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to be well?
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You hold your breath,
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your eyes dart,
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your shoulders tense up, you disconnect
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from the other person.
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You go faster than the scene's rhythm.
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And when that starts happening,
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and it will
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ask one question,
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what did the character just make me
feel?
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Not?
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How did I do
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not?
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Are they impressed?
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Not?
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Did I blink too much?
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What does this moment do to me?
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See that question automatically puts
you back into presence.
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I have a truth bomb for you.
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Acting is reacting.
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You've heard that, right?
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requires listening.
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Listening requires relaxation.
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trust.
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And trust
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requires
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knowing who you are as an artist.
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You are not here to show something.
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You are here to reveal something.
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That means the moment isn't happening
inside your head.
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It's happening between you and the
other actor in a scene.
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I want you to try this.
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I want you to pick a single, simple,
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playable action for your audition, your
next audition, whether it's a self
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tape, whether it's live or even a call
back.
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Not ten.
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I don't want you to do ten things.
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I want you to do simply one thing.
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I need you to confess.
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I need you to stay.
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I need you to love me.
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I need you to notice me.
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I need you to tell me the truth.
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Pick any one of those
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and guess what that is.
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Your anchor,
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everything else becomes instinct.
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So when you do that,
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your focus now shifts to being present,
shifts to being in the moment.
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That means that you're allowing other
things to happen.
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Now this isn't a shorthand version of
preparing the work, it isn't.
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It is really indulging the work in all
kinds of different aspects by playing
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the what if scenario?
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What if my character is feeling this?
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What if my character was feeling
something else?
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The reality is that when you do your
work first,
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then you go ahead and pick one of those
questions.
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What do I want from this person?
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What does this person want from me?
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That
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becomes something that frees you up?
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That's when those really spontaneous,
interesting moments take place.
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I just made you a lot of money right
now, because that was great advice.
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Now, listen let's stock, some bravery.
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When I talk about owning the moment,
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please understand that when you own the
moment that's brave.
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It means that you're taking risks,
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that you're risking literally
everything.
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It means letting go of the illusion of
control.
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It means trusting that your training
lives in your boat bones and will come
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through when needed.
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So I want you to think of your most
memorable performance, whether it was
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on stage or in class,
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wherever.
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I guarantee those moments felt like
flying,
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not like thinking.
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What if every audition could feel like
flying?
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What?
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Yeah?
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Guess what?
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It can
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when you stop over thinking and start
owning.
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When you stop policing yourself and
start participating,
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when you stop needing the moment to go
a certain way and start letting it unfold.
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However it does.
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I want you to hear this.
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You do not need to earn the right to be
yourself
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in the scene.
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You already have that right.
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So tell the truth.
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Trust your instincts.
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Be discoverable.
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Let the scene change.
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You be alive.
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That is how you.
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Book rolls
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simply be present.
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Cool.
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Thank you so much for choosing to be
present with me to day.
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Thank you for your bravery.
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I believe in your ability to show up
with confidence and curiosity.
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And I cannot wait to see you owning the
moment.
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Not survive it.
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Prepare smarter, act better.
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Book more.
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I'm Jeff driesback.
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I'll see you next time casting actor's
castle