In Episode #447 of Casting Actors Cast, casting director, teacher, author, and former actor Jeffrey Dreisbach explores the extraordinary value of mentors, champions, and professional advocates... Read More
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In Episode #447 of Casting Actors Cast, casting director, teacher, author, and former actor Jeffrey Dreisbach explores the extraordinary value of mentors, champions, and professional advocates.
Jeff shares the personal story of his very first film audition—for Ron Howard's Splash, starring Tom Hanks and John Candy—and how casting director Pat McCorkle helped create an opportunity that became an important milestone in his acting career.
You'll discover the difference between mentorship and advocacy, why honest feedback matters more than constant encouragement, how to identify people who can support your professional growth, and how meaningful relationships develop through trust, respect, and shared commitment.
Jeff also introduces a practical five-step approach:
Identify. Connect. Learn. Apply. Sustain.
Whether you're beginning your acting career, struggling to find direction, or looking for ways to support other performers, this episode offers a thoughtful perspective on why professional growth doesn't have to happen alone.
A mentor can open a door. Your preparation and talent must carry you through it.
Visit CastingActorsCast.com for more episodes, free actor resources, Booked It! The Actors Playbook for Getting Cast, and the Next-Level Auditions online course.
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Let me ask you, something
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who's in your corner.
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And I don't mean your agent.
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I don't mean your manager.
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And I don't necessarily mean your
family or your closest friends.
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I'm talking about someone who sees
something in you that perhaps you
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haven't completely recognized
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in yourself.
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Someone who believes
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in your potential,
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someone who tells you the truth,
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someone who encourages you to grow.
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And occasionally
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someone who opens a door you might
never have known existed.
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I had someone like that in my acting
career.
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She was a casting director.
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And one day she brought me in for my
first film audition.
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And the director was Ron Howard.
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The film was splash, starring Tom Hanks
and John candy,
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not exactly a modest introduction to
the film business.
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I booked the roll.
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And here's the interesting part, the
casting director never told Ron Howard
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about our personal relationship.
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She gave me the opportunity
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I had to earn the job.
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And that experience taught me something
I've carried throughout my career.
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You may be the one who walks into the
audition room,
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but you don't have to build your career
alone.
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Today we're talking about the
extraordinary value of having someone
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in your corner
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so who's in your corner?
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It's a question I think every actor
should consider.
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Because we spend an enormous amount of
time talking about training, auditions,
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agents, managers, headshots, resumes
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and professional opportunities
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all are important, but we don't always
talk about the people who help us
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become the actors we're capable of
becoming.
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And I'm not talking about finding
someone who will simply tell you how
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wonderful you are,
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although let's face it, a little
encouragement now and then, doesn't
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hurt.
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I'm talking about something much more
valuable,
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a relationship built on trust,
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experience
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and genuine investment in your growth.
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Welcome to casting actress cast.
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I'm Jeff dries back.
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Casting director, teacher, author,
former actor and somebody who has
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benefited enormously
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from having the right people believe in
my potential.
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If you're joining us for the first
time, welcome.
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And if you've been listening for a
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You can find everything we're doing at
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Ok, so now let's talk about the people
who can make an extraordinary
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difference in an actor's life,
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the people who see our potential
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that's what's important.
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In my years as an actor and casting
director, I've had the privilege of
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working with some extraordinarily
talented people, actors with wonderful technique,
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actors with tremendous imagination,
actors with exceptional discipline and
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actors whose careers have taken them
places they never could have anticipated.
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But something I've noticed over the
years is that successful actors
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rarely seem to have accomplished
everything entirely on their own
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somewhere along the way, some one
encouraged them,
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someone recognized their talent,
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someone offered guidance,
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someone challenged them,
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some one gave them an opportunity.
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Now I'm not suggesting there's a
mathematical formula that guarantees
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success if you have a mentor.
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There isn't.
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And I'm certainly not suggesting that
every successful actor has had the same
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kind of support.
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But in my experience, having some one
genuinely interested in your
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development can make an enormous
difference.
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Because acting is a peculiar
profession.
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In case you had noticed,
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we're expected to have confidence in
ourselves, and yet we're constantly
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being evaluated by other people.
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We're expected to make strong choices.
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And yet we don't always know whether
those choices are working.
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We're expected to develop our careers,
and yet we may not know which
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opportunities are worth pursuing.
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We're expected to be independent.
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And yet the profession itself runs on
collaboration.
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So why should we imagine that
developing an acting career must be an entirely
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solitary
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experience?
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It doesn't have to be.
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That's the truth.
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So let's begin a conversation and talk
about the word mentor.
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It's a perfectly good word, but I think
we sometimes use it too narrowly.
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A mentor is usually someone who
provides guidance, perspective and
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advice based on experience.
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Perhaps it's a teacher, perhaps it's a
director, perhaps it's a more
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experienced actor.
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Perhaps it's someone who understands
the business and can help you navigate it.
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But there's another word I particularly
like.
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Can you figure it out?
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Probably not.
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A champion.
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A champion doesn't simply offer advice.
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A champion believes in your potential.
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They recognize your strength,
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they encourage your development.
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They may advocate for you
professionally.
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There's also something called a sponsor.
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Now I'm not talking about somebody who
pays for your acting classes.
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although if you happen to find one, do
let me know how that works.
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But I'm talking about someone who uses
their professional credibility or
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influence to help create opportunities
for another person.
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A mentor advises.
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A champion believes
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and advocates.
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A sponsor may actively help open
professional Doors.
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And sometimes one person does all three.
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But here's what matters.
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The relationship simply isn't about
what somebody can do for you.
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It's about how that relationship
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helps you grow.
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Because a good mentor doesn't replace
your judgment.
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They help you develop it.
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And a good champion doesn't manufacture
your success.
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They help you recognize and pursue
opportunities where your abilities can
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be demonstrated.
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Let's imagine an actor who's been
auditioning for several months.
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They've been prepping carefully they've
been submitting self tapes, they've
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been attending classes,
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but they're not booking jobs.
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And gradually
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they begin to question everything.
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Maybe they're not talented enough,
maybe their training isn't working,
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maybe their agent isn't doing enough,
maybe they're pursuing the wrong kinds
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of roles.
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Maybe they should change their entire
approach.
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Now some of those concerns might
deserve attention,
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but here's the problem,
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the actors trying to evaluate their
career from inside their own disappointment.
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And that's not always the most reliable
vantage point.
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A trusted mentor might say, your work
is strong, but I think you're
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auditioning for roles that don't take
advantage of your particular qualities.
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Or
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I've noticed that you're making the
same choices in every scene.
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Let's explore, that
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or
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you're improving, but your expecting
results faster than the business can realistically
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provide.
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Or perhaps I think you're ready for a
different level of opportunity.
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That's perspective
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and perspective can be enormously
valuable.
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Not because the mentor always has the
correct answer, they don't, but because
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another experienced person may see
something in the actor,
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and that actor has overlooked it
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sometimes we need someone to challenge
our assumptions.
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Sometimes we need someone to recognize
our progress.
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And sometimes we simply need someone to
remind us that one disappointing
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audition didn't interfere or define an
entire career.
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Now let's make an important distinction.
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Having someone in your corner doesn't
mean having someone who agrees with
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everything you do.
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In fact, that may be one of the least
useful relationships you could have.
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If every audition is wonderful,
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if every decision is brilliant,
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if every disappointment is somebody
else's fault,
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well, you may have found a very
pleasant companion, but you haven't
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necessarily found a good mentor.
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A good mentor tells you the truth.
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And sometimes the truth is
uncomfortable.
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They might tell you that your
preparation needs work,
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that your audition choices are
predictable,
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that you're not ready for a particular
opportunity,
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or that your expectations are
unrealistic.
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But the criticism comes from a place of
respect.
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The objective isn't to diminish you,
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it's to help you improve.
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And that brings us to something I
believe is essential.
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The best mentors don't simply make you
feel better about your work.
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They help you become better at your
work.
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Now that's an important difference.
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Now, I promised you a personal story,
and I think it illustrates what we're
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talking about.
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When I was pursuing my acting career,
there was a casting director named pat mccorkl.
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Pat recognized something in my work.
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She believed in my abilities, and she
thought of me for a wide variety of
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roles and opportunities,
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not simply one particular type of
character.
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She saw possibilities.
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And that confidence made an enormous
difference to me.
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Because when someone whose professional
judgment you respect believes you
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belong in a particular room,
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it can help you begin to recognize that
possibility yourself.
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One day, pat brought me in for an
audition for the very first film
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audition I'd ever had.
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The film was splashed.
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The director was Ron Howard,
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and the stars were Tom Hanks and John
candy.
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Now imagine that
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your first film audition and your
meeting, Ron Howard.
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I was thrilled,
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and I have to say, a little overwhelmed
by the opportunity,
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but I was also prepared.
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I understood that this was a
professional audition.
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I had a job to do.
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Now
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here's the important part of the story.
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I think
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pat didn't tell Ron Howard about our
personal relationship.
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She didn't ask him to give me special
consideration.
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She didn't ask him to hire me.
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She brought me in because she believed
I could do the work,
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and then it was up to me.
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I auditioned
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and I booked the roll.
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It was a large part, but it was a
meaningful opportunity.
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And as I said, it was my first film job.
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I earned that booking.
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Pat had opened the door, but I had to
walk through.
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It
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that's a distinction I want every actor
to understand.
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A mentor can open a door.
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Your preparation and talent must carry
you through it.
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Now there's another part of the story,
because that casting director
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eventually
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cast me in a rather unexpected role.
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Her husband.
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35 years later, I am still playing the
Bart.
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I must say that contrast has been
remarkably generous.
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That relationship
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that began with professional
encouragement
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became something neither of us could
have anticipated.
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And when I eventually joined pat in the
casting business,
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her support didn't disappear.
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The encouragement continued,
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and trust
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continued,
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and the professional partnership grew.
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Now I'm not suggesting that actor
should go looking for a mentor who
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might eventually marry them.
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That would be a kind of an unusual
career strategy, I think.
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But I'm suggesting that meaningful
professional relationships can have an
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influence far beyond any individual job.
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And sometimes the people who believe in
us
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help shape possibilities we couldn't
have imagined on our own.
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I think there's another important
lesson in that story,
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and it concerns the difference between
advocacy
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and favoritism.
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Actors sometimes become suspicious of
professional relationships.
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They hear that someone was recommended
for a role,
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or that a director brought in an actor
they already knew,
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or that a casting director thought of
some one for a particular project.
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And immediately the assumption becomes,
well, they must have had an inside connection.
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Well, perhaps they did.
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But having a professional relationship
isn't automatically improper.
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The entertainment of business depends
on people recognizing talent
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and recommending qualified
professionals.
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That's part of how collaborative
industries function.
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The important questions are whether the
actor is genuinely qualified,
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whether the process is fair, and
whether professional judgment is being
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exercised responsibly.
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A recommendation shouldn't substitute
for ability.
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And a personal relationship,
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shouldn't guarantee a job,
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but a respected professional saying, I
think this actor deserves an opportunity
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can be entirely appropriate.
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That's what happened with my splash
audition.
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Pat recognized my potential.
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She made the introduction,
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and I had to demonstrate that I could
deliver.
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That's what responsible advocacy can
look like.
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Now
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let's consider something else.
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Why might an actor resist
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having a mentor?
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Well, I think that there are several
possibilities.
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Some actors believe they should be able
to figure out everything on their own.
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They associate asking for guidance with
weakness.
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Others are uncomfortable reaching out
to professional people they admire.
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They worry about imposing, they worry
about appearing inexperienced.
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They worry about rejection.
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Some actors have had a disappointing
experience with teachers or industry professionals.
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Perhaps someone made them feel
inadequate.
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Perhaps someone use their position to
create an unhealthy sense of dependence.
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Those concerns deserve to be taken
seriously.
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Because not every person who offers
guidance is necessarily a good mentor.
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And not every experienced professional
is someone you should trust.
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But
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I think there's another reason.
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Actor sometimes overlook mentorship.
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They don't know what they're looking
for.
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They imagine a mentor, some
extraordinary industry figure who will
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suddenly appear, recognized their
genius and transform their career.
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Wouldn't that be lovely?
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Unfortunately, I haven't discovered the
application form for that particular servant.
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The reality is usually much more
ordinary.
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Mentoring relationships often begin
with small professional exchanges,
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a useful conversation,
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an honest observation,
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a teacher who takes a particular
interest in your progress,
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a director who encourages you to
explore different
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types and kinds of roles,
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a fellow actor who offers perspective
based on their experience.
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Over time,
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trust develops.
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And sometimes that relationship becomes
an important source of professional support.
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So
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what should you look for in some one
who might be a mentor or a champion for you?
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I would love.
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And I'm going to suggest five qualities.
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First
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recognition,
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does this person see your strength?
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Do they recognize
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possibilities in your work?
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Can they identify
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something worth developing?
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Second, honesty.
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Will they tell you the truth,
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not simply what you want to hear?
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Can they offer constructive criticism
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without making you feel diminished?
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Third,
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experience,
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do they have knowledge or perspective
that can genuinely help you?
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Now that doesn't necessarily mean they
have to be famous or extraordinarily
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successful.
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It means they have something valuable
to contribute.
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4th,
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advocacy.
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Are they willing, when appropriate, to
support your professional development?
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That might mean recommending a class,
suggesting a particular kind of role,
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introducing you to a useful resource,
or occasionally recommending you for an opportunity.
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And 5th,
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respect,
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this may be the most important quality
of all.
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Do they respect your independence,
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your boundaries, your judgment,
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your right to make your own decisions?
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Because a healthy mentoring relationship
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should make you more capable,
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not more dependent.
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And remember,
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you don't necessarily need one person
who provides all five qualities.
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You might have a teacher who offers
extraordinary technical guidance,
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a colleague who provides perspective, a
director who recognizes your potential,
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and a trusted friend who understands
the emotional demands of the profession.
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Together, those relationships may
provide the support you need.
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We're going to take a quick break,
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but when we return, I want to answer
the question that may be on your mind.
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Ok,
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all this sounds wonderful,
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but how do I actually find someone like
that
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and perhaps most importantly,
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how do you develop the relationship
without making it feel like another
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networking exercise?
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We'll talk about that right after this.
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Ok, let's get practical.
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If you're an actor who doesn't
currently have someone you would
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consider a mentor or a champion, where
do you begin?
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I want to suggest a simple process.
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Identify,
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connect,
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learn,
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apply,
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sustain.
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Let's start with identity.
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Think about the people you've
encountered in your professional life.
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Teachers, directors, coaches,
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experienced actors, casting
professionals,
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people whose judgment you respect,
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people whose professional values seem
consistent with your own,
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who has demonstrated a genuine interest
in your development,
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who has offered advice that actually
helped,
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who seems capable of seeing your work
clearly.
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You may discover that potential mentors
are
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already part of your professional world.
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Now connect.
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And here's where I'd like to offer a
little caution.
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I wouldn't necessarily approach someone
you barely know and immediately ask,
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would you be my mentor?
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That's a rather substantial commitment
to request.
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Instead,
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begin with something specific.
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Perhaps you ask a former teacher for
advice about a particular challenge.
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Perhaps you reconnect with a director
whose feedback was particularly useful.
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Perhaps you ask an experienced
colleague for perspective on career decisions.
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Be respectful of their time.
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Be specific about what you are asking
and genuinely interested in their response.
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Then learn.
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Listen carefully.
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You don't have to agree with
everything, but consider the perspective.
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Ask questions.
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Think about how the advice applies to
your circumstances.
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And then
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comes a particularly important step.
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Apply,
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do something with what you've learned.
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If someone suggests a way to improve
your auditions, try it.
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If someone recommends a training
opportunity investigated, if someone
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identifies a weakness,
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work on it.
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Because one of the best ways to
demonstrate
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that you value someone's guidance
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is to take your own development
seriously.
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And finally, sustain.
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Professional relationships grow through
trust,
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through consistency,
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through gratitude,
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through appropriate communication.
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You don't have to contact someone every
week.
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You don't have to provide constant
updates.
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And you certainly don't have to turn
every conversation
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into a request for another favor.
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Sometimes a simple message saying, I
took your advice and here's what happened
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that can be very meaningful.
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That's how a relationship begins to
develop.
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Not through obligation,
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through mutual respect.
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Now I want to make something very, very
clear.
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Having a mentor or, a coach or a
champion doesn't guarantee professional
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success.
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It doesn't guarantee auditions, it
doesn't guarantee callbacks, it doesn't
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guarantee bookings.
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And it certainly doesn't eliminate
disappointment.
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A mentor cannot build your career for
you,
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but they may help you build it more
intelligently.
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They may help you recognize
opportunities.
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They may help you avoid mistakes.
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They may help you develop confidence
based on actual progress.
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And they may provide perspective when
you are having difficulty seeing your
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own situation.
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Clearly,
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that's enormously valuable.
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And here's another caution.
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Be careful about anyone who promises
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access to casting opportunities in
exchange for money, loyalty or personal favors.
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You got, that
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professional guidance should never
require you to surrender your
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independence or compromise your
boundaries.
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A genuine mentor or champion
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respects your ability to make your own
decisions.
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And sometimes the most valuable advice
they can offer is, you don't need me to
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make this decision.
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You're ready to make it yourself.
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That's a pretty wonderful, outcome
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ok, there's one more dimension to this
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subject, I think, and
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it's pretty important.
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At some point in your career,
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you may have the opportunity to become
some one else's, mentor
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perhaps you're an experienced actor
working with someone who's just beginning.
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Perhaps your teaching,
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perhaps you're directing,
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perhaps you're simply in a position to
offer useful advice.
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And you recognize something in another
person,
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a talent,
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a possibility,
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a quality they haven't fully developed.
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You may not be able to offer them a
job.
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You may not have influential
connections.
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You may not be able to transform their
career,
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but perhaps you can offer encouragement,
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honest feedback,
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a useful perspective, a recommendation,
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or simply, the confidence that comes
from knowing someone
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respects their work.
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And
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sometimes that's enough to make a
meaningful difference.
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Because mentorship isn't only about
receiving support,
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it's also about recognizing when we're
in a position to offer it.
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And I think there's something
particularly satisfying about that,
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the support we once received becomes
something we can extend to.
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Others,
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that's how a professional community
becomes stronger.
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And now here's your reset for this
episode.
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Take a moment and think about the
people in your professional life who
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recognize your potential,
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who tells you the truth, who encourages
you to grow, who offers perspective
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when you are uncertain,
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who respects your independence
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and who, when appropriate, is willing
to act on their belief in you.
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If someone comes to mind, consider
reaching out,
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not necessarily to ask for something,
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perhaps simply to acknowledge the
difference they've made.
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And if nobody comes to mind,
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don't assume you're missing some
essential ingredient that every one
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else has already discovered.
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Start looking for the qualities we've
discussed.
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Recognition, honesty, experience,
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advocacy,
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respect.
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Begin with the conversation.
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Ask a thoughtful question.
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Listen,
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apply what you've learned
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and allow the relationship to develop
naturally.
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Remember the purpose of mentorship
isn't to make you dependent on someone
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else's judgment,
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it's to help you become more confident
in your own.
510
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And if you have the opportunity to
offer that kind of support to another
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actor, consider doing so.
512
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Because you never know what difference
your encouragement
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might make.
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I think back to that first film
audition,
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ranhaward
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splash,
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the excitement of walking into that room
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and the casting director who believed
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I belonged there,
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dashpat, opened the door.
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I earned the job, and the influence of
that relationship has continued
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throughout my life.
523
00:28:05,785 --> 00:28:09,155
Not every mentoring relationship would
become a lifelong partnership, of
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course not.
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But the right person at the right
moment can help you recognize
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possibilities you might otherwise
overlook.
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So remember this.
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You may be the one who walks into the
audition room, but you don't have to
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build your career alone.
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I'm Jeff driesbach.
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Thank you for spending time with me.
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This is casting actor's cast, and i'll
see you next
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