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What do Jennifer Lawrence, Denzel,

Washington

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and Zendea all have in common?

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Well, yes, they are insanely talented,

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but they also have entire teams of

people working around the clock to keep

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their careers humming.

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And here's the kicker.

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You rarely see any of it.

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Today i'll share what your favorite

actors aren't telling you

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and why knowing this could change the

way you approach

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your own career.

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This is casting actor's castle.

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Well,

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hello.

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Ever, wonder what it's really like when

your acting career starts to take off?

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You see, we tend to imagine red

carpets, magazine covers and endless applause.

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But there is so much happening behind

the curtain that nobody talks about

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on this episode, I'm pulling back the

velvet rope, see what I did just there,

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to reveal

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the hidden machinery that keeps your

favorite actor's careers.

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Running from publicists and personal

assistants to managers and social media specialists.

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These behind the scene players can make

or break an actor's momentum

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if you're training or dreaming of your

next big break.

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This episode is for you.

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So we'll talk about the realities of

making it

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and also trust me it's not always what

you think.

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So get ready for a fun, surprising,

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an eye opening ride.

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But first, this is that moment of the

podcast, where I simply get to say

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thank you so much for tuning into

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Cast it's been a pleasure bringing you

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continuing to partake in what I have to

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I mean, you can see the archives,

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there's a blog called jeff's jots.

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There's kind of cool stuff there.

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But I would really appreciate any

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And also, if you wouldn't mind

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So that's where we are,

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and I guess we should just jump into

this, right?

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So I think we have to

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separate the myth from the reality

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of what we're talking about.

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When your career reaches a certain

level.

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See, many actors in training right now,

they imagine that their talent

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is enough.

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And so if you're a young person and

you're saying, gosh, I'm studying

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really hard, I'm working really hard at

my craft, and I feel like I'm really

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good at what I'm doing, and I'm going

to continue to grow my talent,

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you know what?

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It's not enough?

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Because in reality,

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when your career Scales upward,

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in other words, more work starts coming

into your world.

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Infrastructure

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becomes essential.

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What do I mean by infrastructure?

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Well, let's just take the example that

most actors

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they have support networks that are

invisible to the public.

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even movie stars like timothy chalemet,

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they have p r teams behind they're what

we call natural appearances.

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That's absolutely true.

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And so what you think you might need,

versus, what you actually need might be

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a little bit different.

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And so as your career grows, this

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Like, for example, let's talk, the role

of the publicists,

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publicist,

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the publicist for actors.

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degrees of companies that are out there,

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but they help shape the narrative

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of your career.

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They do things like secure magazine

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image.

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because of to day's technology,

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word gets out about actors, and

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their stuff.

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available should any of those things

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So here's an example for I like to

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incredible actor he is.

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Robert Downey junior, he reinvented

himself.

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He had gone through some personal

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you know, I don't want to rehash all of

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His p r team carefully managed his

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so that he is in a position now to do

the amazing worlds like Iron Man.

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of cleaning up what was being said

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So here's what I call a surprise

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You might be surprised to know that

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for example, casual selfies,

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when you see those from a list actors,

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vetted, they're often pre planned.

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off the cuff as you might think.

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Moving on from there, from public

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managers and managers, versus agents.

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agents will continue to be part of your

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in my experience, agents seem to focus

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The contracts, potential auditions,

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booked the job.

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their skill set is very specialized

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while managers, on the other hand

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they seem to focus on your career,

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for example, long term,

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they strategize

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how you're going to grow your brand.

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overall directions, what I call career

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that is to really grow a career, to

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the roles that the actor plays.

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let's take an example, Duane Johnson,

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way more influential than his agent,

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guiding film choices and business

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something that his manner jur

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seems to be in control of.

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secretly will rely on their managers

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more than their agents

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because of that career development

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Managers are also somebody who you can

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It's not just about,

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um,

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should I take this role?

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does this do what I want it to do for

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we will choose to go to a manager first

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hopes that the actor is going to read

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They know a, the people in the business

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terms of setting up meetings or

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particular project.

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That's all happening behind the Scenes

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Now let's just, sorry, I just hit my

microphone let's dive into the secret world.

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It's kind of a secret world of personal

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They're not just grabbing coffee.

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Good personal assistants will organize

schedules.

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transportation.

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They earn charge of simply taking care

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burdened or bothered

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tasks that we might find burdensome

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like I said, assistants often will read

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what's worth

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the actor's attention.

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This role is really good for you or

this is exactly right?

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You've played this role before, is that

something you want to do again?

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Some assistants are trusted more than

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because, you know what?

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the successful actor 247.

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personnel that might be considered when

your career reaches a certain level

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is the social media specialist.

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And we're going to give you more

information and details right after this.

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Welcome back, so we're talking about

what happens behind the Scenes.

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For those actors who are in a very

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position with their careers, they're

pretty much well known.

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They pretty much have

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the need to have a support system that

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The other one that I teased with before

we took the commercial break, with

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social media specialists,

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their job is maintaining an onlined

brand.

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that's a full time job right now.

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For example, celebrities like Ryan

Reynolds and Rees Witherspoon

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they've curated online personas.

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Here's a surprise factor.

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You know, what a tweet or

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any of the social media correspondents

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celebrities pretty much might be

written by a specialist and not the actor.

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All right, moving on from there, I want

to just chat a little bit about how

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that affects actors and what I call the

lifestyle

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shift.

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See, once the team grows, the actor's

life becomes much more about spontaneity

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and more about management.

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And that can be frustrating

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for a lot of actors.

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It can be that suddenly you have a

whole bunch of people on a payroll that

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you might have to think about,

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travel

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contracts, interviews, appearances,

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all have to be coordinated.

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So here's a surprise factor.

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feel

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less free

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after success

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because of those obligations,

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something really worth taking a look at.

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So I also want to share that the actor

will, many, many times form their own

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production company, for example.

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So all of those players might be hired

behind the Scenes in the actor's own

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production company.

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Many well known actors have

productions.

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that production company might be in

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a film project

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to sell to studios, for example.

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there are many, many people that are

behind the Scenes for that production

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company.

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Helping the actor, because of all of

these different media areas that need

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to be attended to a production company,

is also something that you might have

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to consider.

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So if you're training now or listen, if

you're just getting started,

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understand the bigger picture here.

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Making it means

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what, navigating a machine it's not just

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chasing auditions

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when it gets to a certain point.

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Also, career markers

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that you might be needing a management

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input, or team, or even an

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assistant

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is what I call.

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I don't know, this is weird, but I'm a

little bit

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confused sometimes about this, and i'll

share this with you, but there have

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been many times when we want an actor

to come in and be considered for a

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particular role, whether it's theater

film or television project,

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and the agent will return, oh, they're

offer only.

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So that means that

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the likelihood that they have a lot of

material out there, in terms of roles

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that they've played, or work that

they've performed,

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that they're at a level of their career

that they simply do not need to

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audition anymore.

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So hopefully, you know where I'm going

with this.

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There are some ages out there that will

say, you know, that's an offer only

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client of mine,

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meaning we just have to make an offer.

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But I have found, as of late

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that that is something that agents will

use more frequently, even when it might

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not be warranted.

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If there's not enough material,

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if there's

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one sort of character

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in their real, do you understand?

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It really is

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disconcerting sometimes.

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But we are also the casting director.

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Then one has a comeback and says, oh,

well, they won't be considered if it's

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offer only because the director needs

to really see them, because it's a very

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different role than they're used to

playing.

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That sometimes works, but

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not always.

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I think there's an

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answer here for actors.

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And that's building strong professional

habits.

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Doing that early is really great

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Being comfortable asking questions and

demonstrating resilience that sets you

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up for those opportunities.

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And when those opportunities arrived

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don't be shocked,

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when that team

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suddenly appears around you,

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because guess what,

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you're going to be ready

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now.

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You don't just suddenly hire people.

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You end up through word of mouth, as

far as becoming an assistant

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that's, usually word of mouth it's

rarely that that would be a job

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posting.

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But I have seen job posting for

assistance to celebrities.

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But it's an inside kind of network that

you'll need to become comfortable with.

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There's nothing wrong with it.

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It's just about feeling ready and being

ready.

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So here's what my call to action.

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The next time you scroll past your

favorite ask actors Instagram, or you

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see them on a red carpet,

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remember there's a crew of people

you'll never see making it all happen.

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And one day, if you stick with it,

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that crew might be working

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for you.

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Until then,

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I want you to focus on your craft, your

discipline and your mindset,

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the foundation of any great career.

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Thank you so much.

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Please share this episode, subscribe and

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listen,

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reflect on

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how those people that you might want to

share this with, how they might prepare

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themselves for the business side of

acting.

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I'm Geoffrey driesback even watching

and listening

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casting actors cast.

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We'll see you next

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