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[0:00] Peggy: Oh man. Greetings. It's Peggy. I'm sitting here with Ellyn Marie Marsh. You probably don't know who she is, but you can Google it. It's deep in a Google search. We're sitting down today with Brandon Uranowitz. Three-time Tony loser. I don't think he likes it when you say that. I don't think he minds. It's a term of endearment. It's a term of endearment. It's also just facts. I mean, it is facts, but like, you know, somebody could be, you know, something not very nice. Like somebody could be, like, somebody could have gotten 300 on their SATs, so they're statistically not smart, but you calling them not smart isn't really very nice. That's a little different because um getting a Tony nomination at all is an honor.

So if you can't laugh at yourself, you're pretty silly. I'm just saying, you know, you know, because really he really has perfected losing at this point. Yeah, he didn't win any. But I'm gonna ask him a lot of hard-hitting questions. Like, do you are you gonna give up? Because after this many times of people saying, we don't want you to get a Tony, you know what I mean? But that's for us to discuss. Um, he's very sweet, he's very little. He is one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. Yeah. We got we drove to Ogunquit, Maine last summer together. You know, to go see Alicia Umfres and Smokey Joe's cafe. Were you driving? I drove. Yeah. Why is that why I don't I just I can't imagine you not going like going without a drink for like five hours.

Going without a drink because I'm such a big drinker. I just I don't know. It's just in my mind. Seems like you would need that to get through the days. Well, generally when I hang out with you, yes, but ordinarily I'm a very happy person with other people who are kind and like-minded like me. Hmm. Trivia. She likes to boss be our people around for sure. And she likes to just yell at people like, get out your bingo cards! Like, I don't know. She's gonna be wonderful when she's in the nursing home someday. She'll be the leader of every club. Anyway, Brandon's so excited to chat with Brandon. He's wonderful. I wonder if he'll work again. I I'm sure he's gonna be just fine. Isn't he doing assassins?

Oh did we talk about that? No. I I think he's doing assassins. I think he's gonna be just fine. He's talented, he's handsome, he's funny, he's charismatic, he's self-deprecating. He's got a losing streak. Okay, see. Please enjoy. That's where you'd like to do that. Our conversation with the left. Brandon Uranowitz. People are gonna stop coming on our show. His name sounds very ethnic. That should help him. He's Jewish. Yeah, I know. I love that in theater. Enjoy our conversation with Brandon Uranowitz. Get in Peggy with it. Greetings, it's Peggy. Oh, and welcome to Getting Peggy with it. Today I'm thrilled to announce that we have Brandon Uranowitz. Hi, Peggy. Well, I haven't seen you in a while.

I don't actually know that much about you, so I went to your wiki page. I wanted to read a little bit for the guests. Brandon Uranowitz is an American stage and television actor. I don't know about that. Best known for his roles as Adam Hawkberg in American in Paris and Mendel in the 2016 Broadway revival of Falsettos. He was a 2015 Tony Award nominee for American in Paris. He received a subsequent Tony Award nomination for 2017 for Falsettos and 2019 for Burn This. And that's it. That's all you've done. That was just last year, yeah. Yep. That's it. So you're three-time Tony loser. That's it. That's right. I think last time I saw you, you were a two-time Tony loser. Yeah, and now three.

Oh. I'm just gonna keep piling them up. Mm-hmm. How does that feel? So weird. It feels weird. Yeah. Um but I bet you book a lot of jobs because people love Tony nominees. Because they're like second choice. Yeah, or like third or fourth or fifth. Yeah. I mean, it's I I actually don't book a lot of jobs because of it. It's confusing. No. It's a confusing. Don't be silly. That's very, very cute. Uh he's trying to be falsely modest. That's what we call falsely modest in the business. And um, no, I'm sure you book lots of Jewish jobs. Yeah, lots of Jewish ones. Yeah, yeah. That's great. That's great. Well, there's no shortage. No, not for me. Let's go back to the beginning. Okay. Where it all began.

What was your Broadway debut? Baby, it's you. Oh, what's that? Exactly. No one knows what that is. Yeah, no, they don't. What is that even about? Or should they? A lot of people think my Broadway debut is American in Paris, and I just sort of like let them think that. Yeah. Okay. Although on my Broadway debut, I did meet my boyfriend and Beth Level and like a lot of really good. Beth Level. Oh my gosh. She's amazing. She has a Tony. She's a Tony winner. She's a Tony winner, and still her last show closed in flames. Literal flame. Well, actually, figure to bend literal flames. Like she got another nomination. Oh, she got another nomination. Is she in the movie? So what's baby is you about? Um it's actually a really cool story.

It's this about this woman, this like middle-aged Jewish housewife in New Jersey who discovered the Sherelles. Wake up, wake up. She discovered the Sherelles at her um Charles. The Sherells. Dedicated to the one I left. Like you know them. Yeah, that was the only song in it. Was there original music? No. But it was I mean, it was jukeboxy. Yeah, one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um like suit, like literally, it was like I think the show opened like the first image was uh um like a needle going down on a record. So it was like you know exactly what you're getting into. Right. It should have run forever because like wasn't there that whole thing with um But it was you all Motown was on Broadway too, so a lot of competition.

Was that the year's of Memphis? On the heels of Memphis, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right, which won best musical, right? No, yeah, we couldn't get close. No, I know. Well, um it's like it's not even with Beth Levels, you know. She got nominated for it though. She did? Yeah. Yeah. Can you believe it? Wow, everything she touches turns to gold. That's true. She's wonderful. Not me, but yeah. Yeah, but you yeah, so she probably wants to avoid projects with you from now on. Probably. For safety. So after Baby It's You, there was a big gap. A big long gap. Uh what were you doing? Um, what was I doing? Uh suffering a lot. Yeah. Uh you wait tables? No. Have you ever? No. No? No, I haven't had to be able to.

I'm gonna stay too late. Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, I'm thinking about it now. It's I'm thinking about it now. Okay, yeah. Well, we could talk about some skills. Have you waited tables? Uh no, no. But I've known a lot of waiters. A lot of waiters. Where would I work? Stardust Diner? Ellen's, yeah, that's an apt name for Ellen's Stardust Diner. Peggy's Stardust. What why not? Peggy Stardust. Peggy's Startup Diner. And it's just people that want to own their own business. And I make them wait on me. All right. Alright, so what came after Baby It's You? What came after Baby It's You? On Broadway. That's all we care about. Oh, we don't care about anything. Like uh it's not about the work, it's just about Broadway.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And fame and glory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh American in Paris. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was the next Broadway. No, my character had a um a limp, like a war injury. I did tap dance at one point, but no, I was you're a tap dancer? Yeah, I can tap dance, yeah. Really? Yeah. American of Paris is all dancers. Uh mostly dancers, like 95%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Strong mover. Strong mover. That's one. Strong mover. That's great. And you got a tone of the cover. I'm like an actor who sings who moves, I think. You know, like goes in that. Right. Okay. That's that's a lot to put at the top of the resume. You just need to it's just you gotta simplify. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Um, so American Emparis was nominated for like 75 Tonies, um, and won Best Lighting. Right? Yeah, among like other things, like best choreography. Yeah, no. Well, I didn't. There's no way. Yeah, no, it definitely did. Who won your category that year? Uh Christian Borrell. Oh for uh Something Rotten. Something rotten. Yeah. He was in Falsettos with you. He was. Is he nice? Really nice. He has to say that. One of the more generous people I've ever met. Yeah, I doubt it. The ladies, that's what I hear. So falsettos came next. So that was a big flop. That ran five months. It was all closed. It was all it was a limited run. Have you heard of those? That's too bad. Um, because everybody seemed to like it.

But then Amelie came in and that did really well. Yeah, that was whoo beep boop beep. Well, I don't know why a movie about uh uh close-ups on a small quirky, you know, girl with ashburgers would make a great musical. I don't know. From the balcony. Sounds great. Let's make it. Usually it seems like it would be very spectacular. And then you've got Philip Basou, you know? Don't don't get me started on Philip Asso. Um, so who wrote Falsettos? William Finn and James Le Pine. William Finn. James Le Pine. Yeah. Oh, he wrote Into the Woods. He did. And Sunday in the Park with George. He's got a new show coming out, Flying Over Sunset. Okay, so that was your second Tony Loss um for Falsettos. And who won that year?

Gavin Creel. Gavin Creel. For Hello Dolly. Oh, he's dreamy. Like the most. Yeah, he's you can understand. The dreamiest. Yeah, of course it's not. Not like Christian Borrell. No, but Gavin Creel. He's he's up there. If he were not white, he'd be up there with Josh Henry in my mind. Um, so what is your favorite song from Falsettos? Um It's a top there are a lot of songs. I like a lot of probably too many. Um I think a lot of people like disagree, but yeah. Um either everyone hates his parents, or I really liked doing canceling the bar mitzvah. Can you sing it? No. Will you? No, because it's like a it's like a duet kind of thing. It's not like you know, as an actor, you have to be always prepared.

And have you ever heard of that book, An Actor Prepares? Yeah, I have. Yeah. Um, but you should do that because you should have been prepared to sing when you came in. And you always have to be ready to get your next job. And your next job could be like a regional production of falsettos, and they hear you on this podcast. But it's fine. I think anybody's listening, but yeah. Well, what was your next Bobby show? Prince of Broadway. What? What's that? It was That wasn't really. You were in that? I was. That was a major singers. Yeah. It was a lot of things. Who did you sing? I well, see, that's the thing is like I was like the character guy. So it wasn't like, you know, voice. Actor, singer mover.

Yeah, exactly. Like that really took advantage of my like entire artists. You did monologue skills. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of great singers in that. Yeah, really great singers. I didn't see your name listed on that. Wow. And you must be a great reader. It was there. It was also closed quick. Again, another limited room. And oh, rest in peace. Yeah. How prints? Yeah. You so he was your friend? Yeah. You know a lot of famous people. Yeah, I guess I do. Yeah. That's really great for you. Uh yeah. I mean, they're well, luckily they're really great people. In the bullets of your Tony speech, um, were they would you list all of the celebrities you know? No. It's probably a good thing to do because then they're like, oh him, right?

What's his name? And then they're reminded. Yeah, no, it's a good thing to be a reminder. That's why I'm here today. Well, what was your next Barbie show? Uh I think it was bands visit. Bands visit. Yeah. Right. That was so long. So long. Yeah, it's so boring. I saw that. It was like 90 minutes one act. Oh, yeah. It was um it was hard to get through. It won 10 Tonies. 10 Tonies. Were you nominated? I was not in the original cast. Oh. Oh you were a replacement. No one cares about replacements. Yeah, no, that's probably why he wasn't on my radar. Um, did you have fun in that? Like, so much fun. Oh I loved it so much. It was very depressing, though. It's like the lady, she's alone, she lives at a bar, and then this other guy, he doesn't care about his family, and then there's a guy at a phone booth that is just horrible.

[12:28] Brandon Uranowitz: He stands on a turntable, and then there's this old guy, and he comes back and he talks to the lady that has a range of like four notes. I don't know how she's gonna sing "Being Alive." But we'll see. That remains to be seen. Well, I mean, that particular music maybe didn't show off her range that she does have, you know.

[12:51] Peggy: Really?

[12:51] Brandon Uranowitz: She does?

[12:52] Peggy: Yeah.

[12:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, you've heard it?

[12:53] Peggy: I yeah. I bet if she were here, she would sing "Jacob Goes to the Wedding" or whatever you were gonna sing a minute ago.

[13:00] Brandon Uranowitz: What was it called?

[13:01] Peggy: At a bar mitzvah?

[13:02] Brandon Uranowitz: Jacob is my middle name.

[13:03] Peggy: Canceling the bar mitzvah.

[13:05] Brandon Uranowitz: Canceling it. Or everyone hates his parents, or like, you know, everybody likes them breaking down. I mean, maybe my favorite song for "Falsettos" wasn't even one of my own.

[13:13] Peggy: It probably wasn't.

[13:14] Brandon Uranowitz: Hmm. So do you think that's a good one?

[13:16] Peggy: Unlikely lovers is a beautiful song.

[13:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, these are I'm more interested in hits, you know what I mean? Um, so do you think they're gonna turn "Band's Visit" into like are they gonna do it in high schools? You think that's appropriate?

[13:27] Peggy: Well, I don't think it's inappropriate.

[13:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah. I mean, they do boring stuff in high schools all the time. You know, they do it.

[13:36] Peggy: Yeah, I don't think it's boring, but yeah, I mean, it's a good like acting. It would be a great double bill with like "Waiting for Godot" or like, you know, things like that.

[13:44] Brandon Uranowitz: Um yeah, like another masterpiece, yeah, exactly. Wow. I think, right?

[13:49] Peggy: Yeah.

[13:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Masterpieces for going to sleep at night. Um, so after "Band's Visit," you did "Burn This."

[13:56] Peggy: Yeah.

[13:57] Brandon Uranowitz: A play.

[13:58] Peggy: Mm-hmm.

[13:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Why do you say it like that? Plays, plays are just so nobody cares about plays. You know, if it doesn't have music, what's the point? You know?

[14:12] Peggy: I mean, thankfully, your hierarchy of skills is actor, singer, dancer, and your two others are just wasted.

[14:17] Brandon Uranowitz: But what about somebody who is a singer and a dancer? Like they're wasted in a play.

[14:21] Peggy: But it's not wasted because I'm still in a Broadway theater. I still have to like support my voice. I still have to warm up my body.

[14:29] Brandon Uranowitz: Did you? Or did you just go to that Brazilian place on 46 and have Caprinhas and then go to here between your matinee?

[14:36] Peggy: Because it's a play. You could just go get hammered.

[14:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Which a lot of people do. Trust. A lot of actors do that, and they go to that. Um, you know, but you say what did you say? Capri Caprinas.

[14:46] Peggy: Scott Cachaca or something. I don't know. I don't really drink. But a lot of people go to Brazil Brazil and then they go back to their show at night, especially for a play when it's pointless and no one cares. Who would ever know that you were hammered?

[14:57] Brandon Uranowitz: I could I could I couldn't, I like physically couldn't do that.

[15:02] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, what is "Burn This" about?

[15:05] Brandon Uranowitz: "Burn This" is about four people sort of like coping with the sudden death of their...

[15:05] Peggy: Okay, so, question for you. I know this is your interview, but question for you for white people.

[15:18] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I could smell it a mile away.

[15:22] Peggy: We let him ask us questions. I just you seem to get bored by a lot of stuff.

[15:26] Brandon Uranowitz: Like what?

[15:28] Peggy: Like what do you like?

[15:28] Brandon Uranowitz: I love like what keeps you um singing, dancing, and diversity, which is not on Broadway.

[15:36] Peggy: So um you were nominated for a Tony for "Burn This."

[15:42] Brandon Uranowitz: I was. It was kind of a slow season, and did you think, okay, now's my chance?

[15:47] Peggy: Third time's my charm.

[15:48] Brandon Uranowitz: What the fuck are you talking about?

[15:52] Peggy: Kind of a slow season.

[15:56] Brandon Uranowitz: That one I will not accept.

[15:58] Peggy: Oh, gonna toot its own horn.

[16:00] Brandon Uranowitz: Two it away, my friend. That one I will not accept. From the heavens, that was a crowded season.

[16:09] Peggy: Thank you. So you probably not the others, but third time's a charm.

[16:13] Brandon Uranowitz: No. No, no, no. Nope. Lost again. Pulled out that old Tony speech, weathered with tears, and then you said, let me add to these bullet points.

[16:22] Peggy: No, no, no. That one was that one, that one I had a speech prepared.

[16:28] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay. Because Judith Light told me to prepare one. So I did.

[16:33] Peggy: You dropped something. Do you want to pick it up? It's heavy. All the names you know?

[16:38] Brandon Uranowitz: No, no, no. Just Judith.

[16:40] Peggy: Just Judith. Just Judith. That's your next one man show.

[16:44] Brandon Uranowitz: With an all-white crew.

[16:47] Peggy: So when you didn't win, did you think it's time to throw in the towel?

[16:53] Brandon Uranowitz: No. No. No, I thought about throwing in the towel. Uh the first time. Probably. No. No, no, no. The first time that was more just being there was more exciting. Just being invited, you guys. So honored and blessed.

[17:09] Peggy: Have you ever been?

[17:10] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm actually boycotting. I'm anticipating boycotting the Tonies if it's not to my liking.

[17:15] Peggy: Oh, that'll make a big deal.

[17:17] Brandon Uranowitz: Did you were you in "Burn This" with Adam Driver?

[17:19] Peggy: I was.

[17:20] Brandon Uranowitz: It's very dreamy.

[17:21] Peggy: Yeah.

[17:22] Brandon Uranowitz: Carrie Russell, she, you know, unfortunately never won favor again after she cut her hair back in the 90s. But Adam Driver, he's big right now.

[17:29] Peggy: He is huge, right?

[17:30] Brandon Uranowitz: He is in "Marriage Story."

[17:31] Peggy: Yeah.

[17:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Did you see it?

[17:33] Peggy: Not yet.

[17:34] Brandon Uranowitz: You didn't? You're his friend.

[17:36] Peggy: Um, did you guys kiss in the play?

[17:39] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[17:39] Peggy: Oh.

[17:40] Brandon Uranowitz: No, no, no. She went backstage?

[17:42] Peggy: No.

[17:42] Brandon Uranowitz: No. Did he talk to you or did he have bodyguards?

[17:46] Peggy: He's like, I'm with all these loser actors. I'm a movie star.

[17:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Was he like, who are these? Who are these people?

[17:51] Peggy: Um, I mean, there was security, but there wasn't it wasn't like a bodyguard like situation.

[17:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, yeah. No, like we talked often.

[17:59] Peggy: Was he nominated for a Tony?

[18:01] Brandon Uranowitz: He was. He was. Did he win?

[18:03] Peggy: No.

[18:03] Brandon Uranowitz: Even the star didn't win.

[18:04] Peggy: Yeah.

[18:05] Brandon Uranowitz: Wow. Well, that tells you a lot about it.

[18:07] Peggy: Um also tells you a lot about this season.

[18:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, and it doesn't really, but you know, plays are dumb, as I've said, you know, it's just it's hard to it's hard for to get anybody out there to spend their dollars on that, you know what I mean? Um, they really want to see.

[18:21] Peggy: But uh that closed as well.

[18:22] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, no, it's just another limited run, 17 weeks, and we like got pretty close to recouping. So it's a shame that everything you're in closes so quickly.

[18:32] Peggy: It is a shame. And in some cases, the people die.

[18:36] Brandon Uranowitz: All right. I want to play a game that I like to call Deep Internet Cuts.

[18:43] Peggy: He was 91.

[18:53] Brandon Uranowitz: All right. It's now time for a segment I like to call Deep Internet Cuts.

[18:58] Peggy: Deep Cuts from the Internet.

[19:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Is this new? Is this a new segment?

[19:03] Peggy: Nope.

[19:04] Brandon Uranowitz: No, don't look at my papers.

[19:06] Peggy: Oh god, I'm so scared. On November 28th, 2016, you posted the picture on Insta of your show for 54 Below.

[19:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Shocking.

[19:13] Peggy: With discount code. How many comps did you end up giving out for your show? Were you just papering? And how many full price tickets do you think you sold?

[19:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh oh my god. 50% off. My god. Usually it's like use code Brandon Uranowitz for $5 off your $97 cover with a five drink minimum.

[19:37] Peggy: Listen, it was my first solo show. I had only one Tony nomination at that point.

[19:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh yeah. You know? Was it betwixt the nominations and the show?

[19:48] Peggy: So it was still up in the air. You could have won.

[19:51] Brandon Uranowitz: No, this was before this was after "Falsettos," right after "Falsettos" closed. Um, and before the Tony nominations came out for that year.

[20:01] Peggy: That lighting is a little bright. I think it's the TV because it's actually a really great photo.

[20:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Wow. What did you sing?

[20:08] Peggy: All Bill Finn.

[20:09] Brandon Uranowitz: All Bill Finn. There was enough to choose from?

[20:13] Peggy: For a whole night.

[20:14] Brandon Uranowitz: For three nights. Yeah, he's right. He's he's pretty prolific.

[20:17] Peggy: Do you know?

[20:20] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, I did that. Yeah, I said. Yeah, yeah, I sang that before.

[20:22] Peggy: I'm sure you did.

[20:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah. Yeah, with Carmen Cusack.

[20:25] Peggy: Oh, yeah.

[20:25] Brandon Uranowitz: Alicia Umpress. Some strings. I'm sure you had a chance. Because you need to show off your acting, singing, dancing.

[20:29] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's go to another one. On November 20th, 2012, on Twitter, you said Crayola needs to fucking cool it.

[20:42] Brandon Uranowitz: One like.

[20:43] Peggy: Okay, so here's what I'm gonna say.

[20:47] Brandon Uranowitz: Here's what I'm gonna say.

[20:48] Peggy: Yeah, please explain.

[20:50] Brandon Uranowitz: No fucking clue what that's about.

[20:52] Peggy: Drugs.

[20:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Clearly, neither. Actors do a lot of drugs. And they drink between shows. So this is what we're learning today.

[20:59] Peggy: Um I have no clue. I just sleep tweet.

[21:02] Brandon Uranowitz: I know people who do that. I just I have no idea how to use Twitter.

[21:06] Peggy: So oh well, we can talk about it later.

[21:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay. Facebook, 2011. This photo is your profile picture.

[21:13] Peggy: Uh oh.

[21:14] Brandon Uranowitz: My legs look pretty good.

[21:16] Peggy: That's you.

[21:17] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[21:18] Peggy: Your profile picture, though.

[21:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[21:20] Peggy: First that's first impression. You know what I mean? Like, were you in "Kinky Boots"? Like, what is this?

[21:24] Brandon Uranowitz: That was during "Baby It's You."

[21:26] Peggy: "Baby It's You."

[21:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I was proud of my Broadway debut.

[21:29] Peggy: Oh, that's just a good one. You know what I mean?

[21:31] Brandon Uranowitz: All right. Last year in an interview with Broadway Box, you had a question, what is your main goal with your character Larry in "Burn This"? You said to be authentic.

[21:42] Peggy: Is there a more inauthentic response?

[21:45] Brandon Uranowitz: Wait, what? To be authentic.

[21:47] Peggy: That's what I said.

[21:48] Brandon Uranowitz: That's it.

[21:48] Peggy: That's it. Full stop. That was the end of the interview.

[21:51] Brandon Uranowitz: And is there what was the question?

[21:53] Peggy: Is there anything else you can say about Larry?

[21:55] Brandon Uranowitz: If you want me to come to plays, what what is Larry about? You know what I mean?

[22:00] Peggy: I mean, Larry was I is that really all I said? I don't believe that that's all I said. I feel like you didn't read anymore.

[22:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Well, it was in it was it was in Broadway Box 20 seconds and two minutes.

[22:11] Peggy: Oh and you said any you said um what's your main goal?

[22:15] Brandon Uranowitz: I had a fucking time constraint. I had 20 seconds to answer 20 questions, basically.

[22:23] Peggy: Oh really? I think that you know, as an actor, you just have to listen.

[22:28] Brandon Uranowitz: Here's what I'm gonna say. Do you know what actually can I finish?

[22:32] Peggy: Yeah, yeah.

[22:33] Brandon Uranowitz: The reason I said that was because when you read up, do you read plays? Have you ever read a play?

[22:37] Peggy: Oh boring.

[22:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Just to go sleep.

[22:40] Peggy: Do you read melatonin? Do you read books?

[22:42] Brandon Uranowitz: I like books on tape, like funny books on tape, just basically like or quotes.

[22:46] Peggy: Right.

[22:46] Brandon Uranowitz: That's love reading quotes.

[22:47] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, that tracks. That definitely tracks. Um when you read a play, blah blah blah. No, the thing on like with "Burn This," Larry, the character is sort of there as the comic relief, and he can because it was the 80s, and a lot of gay characters had not really been given much stage time, air time on television and in movies. Um it was easy to fall into this trap of him being a cartoon just for the comedic relief of like what is ostensibly a very tragic story.

[23:19] Brandon Uranowitz: And I wanted to make him not a cartoon and give him some humanity.

[23:24] Peggy: That's wonderful. Well, you should have said that instead.

[23:26] Brandon Uranowitz: That was actually that sounded like a human.

[23:29] Peggy: I had 25 minutes.

[23:30] Brandon Uranowitz: All right. Speaking of, let's move on to my game called Fast Fire Faves.

[23:36] Peggy: All right, I'm gonna name something, and you quickly tell me your favorite fast.

[23:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[23:40] Peggy: Okay, but like, see, this is the same thing as the question. So like am I allowed to speak and be like, No, I think you should do fast fire face as fast as you can.

[23:48] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, favorite food.

[23:50] Peggy: Just hypocrisy all around.

[23:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Food.

[23:52] Peggy: Food.

[23:54] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you eat?

[23:55] Peggy: Sometimes.

[23:56] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[23:57] Peggy: Yeah. I'm trying this like intermittent fasting thing.

[23:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Of course you are. Ugh. Jesus, every actor in this town. We should change the name from Times Square to Intermittent Fasting Center.

[24:08] Peggy: Keep ready. It's hungry, angry people.

[24:10] Brandon Uranowitz: But I was like sort of doing it before anyway, because I don't really like breakfast.

[24:14] Peggy: Okay. What's your favorite book?

[24:15] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, you don't read.

[24:16] Peggy: Okay.

[24:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Midtown.

[24:17] Peggy: I mean, like my favorite, my favorite book right now is "The Overstory," but it's...

[24:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Ooh, "Overstory" about trees?

[24:23] Peggy: Yeah. Did you read it?

[24:24] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm starting it, but two pages in nighty night.

[24:28] Peggy: You don't like anything. What's your favorite Midtown bar?

[24:33] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh I don't like midtown bars.

[24:37] Peggy: Who likes a midtown bar?

[24:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Your favorite riffer.

[24:42] Peggy: Morgan James.

[24:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, she's terrible. She has speaking of someone who hasn't worked in years.

[24:48] Peggy: Well.

[24:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Favorite Broadway cast album.

[24:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Favorite Broadway cast album.

[24:54] Peggy: Uh, Into the Woods.

[24:57] Brandon Uranowitz: The Oridge.

[24:58] Peggy: Yeah.

[24:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Sunny in the Park with George, maybe.

[25:01] Peggy: The Aridge.

[25:02] Brandon Uranowitz: The O Ridge.

[25:02] Peggy: Not this latest.

[25:03] Brandon Uranowitz: Ugh.

[25:04] Peggy: Did they make a cast on the board?

[25:05] Brandon Uranowitz: Let's not even think about it.

[25:06] Peggy: Favorite TV show to binge.

[25:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Breaking Bad.

[25:10] Peggy: Right now, Cheer.

[25:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Cheers hasn't been on in years.

[25:16] Peggy: They're so sweet.

[25:16] Brandon Uranowitz: It's on Netflix.

[25:17] Peggy: Cheer, plural.

[25:18] Brandon Uranowitz: It's a throwback.

[25:19] Peggy: You're thinking Cheers, plural.

[25:21] Brandon Uranowitz: It's Cheer, singular.

[25:22] Peggy: Cheers, it's about the bar.

[25:23] Brandon Uranowitz: No, Cheer.

[25:23] Peggy: It's about cheering.

[25:25] Brandon Uranowitz: Best thing of 2019.

[25:27] Peggy: Hi, Tony Nom.

[25:29] Brandon Uranowitz: Thank you, God.

[25:31] Peggy: Next question.

[25:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Best boy band.

[25:33] Peggy: Uh, 98 Degrees.

[25:37] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, that's questionable.

[25:38] Peggy: Lipstick brand.

[25:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh, NARS.

[25:44] Peggy: Subway line.

[25:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Two, three.

[25:48] Peggy: The best thing about me.

[25:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Off the top of your head.

[25:52] Peggy: Favorite?

[25:53] Brandon Uranowitz: You have a decent lace front, yeah.

[25:57] Peggy: Laid.

[25:58] Brandon Uranowitz: She's laid, honey.

[25:59] Peggy: That's what the kids say.

[26:01] Brandon Uranowitz: She's almost laid, yeah.

[26:02] Peggy: She's close.

[26:03] Brandon Uranowitz: I would like to play a game.

[26:05] Peggy: Okay.

[26:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Called Lasting Impressions.

[26:08] Peggy: Lasting Impression.

[26:11] Brandon Uranowitz: As an actor, every actor has to be prepared at all times with just a pocket full of impressions that they do.

[26:17] Peggy: And it's just one of the things that we grow up knowing how to do as artists, really.

[26:21] Brandon Uranowitz: And so every actor knows at any moment they could be called upon to do their impressions.

[26:25] Peggy: So, Brandon.

[26:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Truly never happened to me.

[26:28] Peggy: Stephanie J. Block.

[26:30] Brandon Uranowitz: You know her, right?

[26:31] Peggy: Yeah.

[26:31] Brandon Uranowitz: She's your friend?

[26:32] Peggy: Yeah.

[26:36] Brandon Uranowitz: It's a great share.

[26:37] Peggy: Snoop Dogg.

[26:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, hey, Martha, what's up?

[26:39] Peggy: Beyoncé.

[26:42] Brandon Uranowitz: I am powerful.

[26:43] Peggy: I don't know.

[26:44] Brandon Uranowitz: I don't do impressions.

[26:46] Peggy: Matthew McConaughey.

[26:50] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, there we can agree, right?

[26:51] Peggy: Yeah.

[26:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[26:52] Peggy: Gilbert Gottfried.

[26:54] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh my goodness.

[26:56] Peggy: Are you warmed up?

[26:59] Brandon Uranowitz: No! I like I don't know.

[27:01] Peggy: No.

[27:01] Brandon Uranowitz: I can't.

[27:02] Peggy: I could play him later.

[27:04] Brandon Uranowitz: I could play him now, probably.

[27:05] Peggy: You could probably play him now.

[27:07] Brandon Uranowitz: They should do a music.

[27:07] Peggy: Oh, a play with music for that.

[27:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Ah, Peggy.

[27:10] Peggy: Like I mean, wow.

[27:12] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh, Bill Clinton.

[27:16] Peggy: I did not have sexual relations with that one.

[27:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, that's good.

[27:20] Peggy: That was okay.

[27:20] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I like that.

[27:22] Peggy: I like the nuance.

[27:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Thank you.

[27:24] Peggy: Acting, singing, moving.

[27:26] Brandon Uranowitz: Moving.

[27:27] Peggy: Tapping, supposedly.

[27:29] Brandon Uranowitz: Alex Trebek.

[27:30] Peggy: Oh.

[27:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Is he okay?

[27:35] Peggy: I think he has canceled.

[27:37] Brandon Uranowitz: He's alive.

[27:38] Peggy: He actually survived it.

[27:40] Brandon Uranowitz: He's alive, everybody.

[27:41] Peggy: Calm the fuck down.

[27:44] Brandon Uranowitz: Save your personal post where you posed with him backstage at Ain't Too Proud that you're gonna post on Instagram the second he dies.

[27:51] Peggy: Just save it.

[27:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Slow your roll.

[27:53] Peggy: Why Ain't Too Proud?

[27:55] Brandon Uranowitz: Just any show backstage.

[27:56] Peggy: I met Mike Tyson once.

[27:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Here he is when he passed.

[27:59] Peggy: Uh, he was my best friend.

[28:01] Brandon Uranowitz: No, he wasn't.

[28:01] Peggy: Nobody cares about your personal photo.

[28:04] Brandon Uranowitz: You'd maybe I'd just make it all about them.

[28:07] Peggy: That we can agree on that.

[28:09] Brandon Uranowitz: That we can agree on that.

[28:12] Peggy: Those were pretty good.

[28:14] Brandon Uranowitz: Alex Trebek?

[28:15] Peggy: No?

[28:15] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[28:16] Peggy: Pass.

[28:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Surfer dude.

[28:19] Peggy: Do you know what that is?

[28:21] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, man.

[28:21] Peggy: Come on, let's hang ten.

[28:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[28:23] Peggy: Have you ever surfed?

[28:25] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[28:25] Peggy: Yeah.

[28:27] Brandon Uranowitz: I can't imagine you surfing.

[28:28] Peggy: Yeah, no, my core is not strong enough.

[28:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[28:31] Peggy: The Verizon guy.

[28:33] Brandon Uranowitz: Can you do him?

[28:34] Peggy: Well.

[28:34] Brandon Uranowitz: He's basically He used to be the Sprint guy, right?

[28:37] Peggy: Or is he He's the Sprint guy now.

[28:39] Brandon Uranowitz: He's the Sprint guy now.

[28:40] Peggy: He was the Verizon guy.

[28:41] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I don't remember what he sounds like.

[28:43] Peggy: Yeah, he's very boring.

[28:45] Brandon Uranowitz: All right.

[28:46] Peggy: Truly like what is not boring to you.

[28:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[28:49] Peggy: I want to give you an opportunity right now.

[28:53] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[28:53] Peggy: To do something that is special.

[28:57] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[28:57] Peggy: And you've probably never done it anywhere.

[28:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[29:00] Peggy: And I want to give you a chance to do your Tony speech.

[29:05] Brandon Uranowitz: This is a segment I call Tony's speech.

[29:08] Peggy: Wait, seriously?

[29:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[29:10] Peggy: I would love it.

[29:11] Brandon Uranowitz: I'll read your name.

[29:13] Peggy: And the winner for this dumb play is not Adam Driver.

[29:18] Brandon Uranowitz: You'd be surprised.

[29:19] Peggy: It is Brandon Jacob.

[29:20] Brandon Uranowitz: You're ready to it!

[29:24] Peggy: Do you really want me to read my Tony speech?

[29:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[29:28] Peggy: Well, you have it?

[29:29] Brandon Uranowitz: Read the intro because the intro is you had, you know, you three swings, three misses.

[29:29] Peggy: Three swings, three misses.

[29:36] Brandon Uranowitz: Three messes.

[29:37] Peggy: So we're like a full strikeout.

[29:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Three swings, three misses.

[29:41] Peggy: We love you here.

[29:42] Brandon Uranowitz: It's just the American Theater Wing doesn't.

[29:44] Peggy: Right, right, right.

[29:45] Brandon Uranowitz: The American Theater Wing, Broadway League, yeah.

[29:47] Peggy: No, no, right.

[29:48] Brandon Uranowitz: Three swings, three misses.

[29:49] Peggy: They're gonna bring in a pinch hitter next time.

[29:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Have you done this with anyone?

[29:54] Peggy: We went back in time.

[29:55] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[29:56] Peggy: The only other three-time Tony loser that I know is Andy Carl.

[29:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Is he your friend?

[30:00] Peggy: We've met.

[30:01] Brandon Uranowitz: You should be buddies.

[30:03] Peggy: Like you could have a support group.

[30:05] Brandon Uranowitz: Also, he's so Celia.

[30:06] Peggy: Celia was a three-time Tony loser.

[30:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, but she won.

[30:10] Peggy: And she's also very strange.

[30:12] Brandon Uranowitz: So I don't know if you got she doesn't seem like she would be in a support group with anybody.

[30:17] Peggy: She would just like go and she and Björk could be in a support group together.

[30:20] Brandon Uranowitz: They're very similar.

[30:21] Peggy: Just like Am I made of trees?

[30:24] Brandon Uranowitz: My little, you know, very, very odd.

[30:26] Peggy: Childlike.

[30:27] Brandon Uranowitz: But you and Andy.

[30:28] Peggy: Childlike, I'll get that.

[30:29] Brandon Uranowitz: They have that in common.

[30:30] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[30:31] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, you and Andy Carl could be in a support group, and he is so cute.

[30:36] Peggy: He is really dreamy.

[30:37] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, he's really dreamy.

[30:38] Peggy: And um just such a good sport and so sweet.

[30:43] Brandon Uranowitz: It's shocking he didn't win because in Rocky.

[30:46] Peggy: No, no, no.

[30:47] Brandon Uranowitz: Orphe would eat me alive.

[30:49] Peggy: Yeah.

[30:49] Brandon Uranowitz: She's quite frightening.

[30:51] Peggy: But I love her.

[30:52] Brandon Uranowitz: She's very intimidating.

[30:53] Peggy: She's listening.

[30:54] Brandon Uranowitz: She's very intimidating.

[30:54] Peggy: Very intimidating, yeah.

[30:55] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[30:56] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[30:57] Brandon Uranowitz: Very sweet.

[30:58] Peggy: Mm-hmm.

[30:59] Brandon Uranowitz: But she would kill you, yeah.

[31:00] Peggy: Yeah.

[31:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Just tell us the opening of your speech.

[31:03] Peggy: You don't have to do the whole speech because I'm sure it's long.

[31:05] Brandon Uranowitz: It would go clear into commercials, I'm sure.

[31:08] Peggy: 40 seconds.

[31:08] Brandon Uranowitz: So no, it was not long.

[31:09] Peggy: But nobody sticks to that.

[31:11] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, no, I mean, uh, you know, I'm not gonna read it.

[31:14] Peggy: We'll give you 40 seconds.

[31:15] Brandon Uranowitz: That's not, no, no, no.

[31:16] Peggy: I don't think that that's great.

[31:17] Brandon Uranowitz: Like our listeners like karma.

[31:21] Peggy: You heard it here first and last.

[31:24] Brandon Uranowitz: That's more about you and less about me, right?

[31:27] Peggy: Well, I don't know.

[31:28] Brandon Uranowitz: I just want to give you a chance of a lifetime.

[31:31] Peggy: Well, I was just gonna I was just gonna list all of the like gay trailblazers in theater who...

[31:31] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, I'm shocked.

[31:42] Peggy: We want to hear it.

[31:42] Brandon Uranowitz: I never would have guessed that.

[31:44] Peggy: Be nice to him, Peggy, he's lost three times.

[31:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Be nice to me, Peggy, I've lost three times.

[31:42] Peggy: Okay, I want to hear a little bit of it.

[31:42] Brandon Uranowitz: No, I well now no, I'm not gonna...

[31:42] Peggy: Tell us about Harvey Milk.

[31:42] Brandon Uranowitz: He's on the list.

[31:42] Peggy: Um, I don't think I can do that.

[31:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, who else is on the list?

[32:14] Peggy: Just tell me the list. It was, you know...

[32:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Who are the move? Okay, who came before you that's really important to you?

[32:14] Peggy: Harvey Milk, Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, um, Lanford Wilson.

[32:22] Brandon Uranowitz: They'd be so pleased with the shape of theater today, wouldn't they?

[32:35] Peggy: And the world.

[32:36] Brandon Uranowitz: I think he would have been happy with...

[32:35] Peggy: Do you know who Lanford Wilson is?

[32:40] Brandon Uranowitz: Yes.

[32:41] Peggy: Who is he?

[32:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Playwright.

[32:41] Peggy: What did he write?

[32:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, Fences.

[32:48] Peggy: Nope.

[32:48] Brandon Uranowitz: Different Wilson.

[32:53] Peggy: To Kill a Mockingbird?

[32:55] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[32:53] Peggy: Death of a Salesman?

[32:58] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[32:56] Peggy: Different white.

[32:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Gay content.

[32:58] Peggy: Yeah, some tell me.

[33:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Burn This.

[33:03] Peggy: Yeah.

[33:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, well it's good for people to hear that name again.

[33:09] Peggy: Yeah, no, it is good for people to hear that.

[33:12] Brandon Uranowitz: Close quick.

[33:14] Peggy: Who else?

[33:15] Brandon Uranowitz: Anybody else on there?

[33:17] Peggy: You're already way past 40.

[33:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Harvey Fierstein.

[33:20] Peggy: Um, Edith Windsor.

[33:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you know who that is?

[33:25] Peggy: I know the other names before that.

[33:28] Brandon Uranowitz: Edith Windsor was the, she's like the reason we have marriage equality, you know.

[33:32] Peggy: Oh.

[33:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Are you married?

[33:33] Peggy: No.

[33:34] Brandon Uranowitz: Are you going to be married?

[33:35] Peggy: Probably.

[33:35] Brandon Uranowitz: We'll see.

[33:36] Peggy: Okay, well now you can.

[33:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I can now.

[33:39] Peggy: Because of Edith.

[33:40] Brandon Uranowitz: Because of Edith.

[33:41] Peggy: Piaf.

[33:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Nope.

[33:43] Peggy: Another gay icon.

[33:44] Brandon Uranowitz: Yes, very much.

[33:45] Peggy: Edith Piaf.

[33:45] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, yeah.

[33:46] Peggy: Did you think Judy Garland, the traditional things share?

[33:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Are you a fan of low?

[33:51] Peggy: Like who else did you list?

[33:52] Brandon Uranowitz: I am, uh, no.

[33:54] Peggy: It wasn't like gay icons.

[33:56] Brandon Uranowitz: It was more like John, like that.

[33:58] Peggy: The tennis player.

[34:00] Brandon Uranowitz: What's her name?

[34:02] Peggy: Oh yeah, from um...

[34:02] Brandon Uranowitz: Because if you leave people out of Billy something piss.

[34:07] Peggy: Oh yeah, Billy.

[34:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Billy Jean King.

[34:09] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[34:09] Brandon Uranowitz: There it is.

[34:10] Peggy: Yeah, if you leave any gays out, they get really...

[34:09] Brandon Uranowitz: It's actually for the best that you didn't win because if you had a speech, 40 seconds, can you list every gay?

[34:16] Peggy: You know, but there was a stipulation in the speech that like you know the backlash against the you know the upswing of fame and then the backlash.

[34:22] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, the stipulation.

[34:23] Peggy: Well, there's a backlash about everything, isn't there?

[34:25] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, there is the cancel society.

[34:27] Peggy: What do you think about canceling society, you know?

[34:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Everybody cancels everything.

[34:27] Peggy: Chick-fil-A, you know, everybody cancels everything.

[34:36] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[34:36] Peggy: Do you like to cancel people?

[34:37] Brandon Uranowitz: No, I well, um, it sort of depends how egregious the error.

[34:43] Peggy: Mm-hmm.

[34:43] Brandon Uranowitz: You're the judge of that.

[34:45] Peggy: Yeah, like, you know, for example, like uh like a hashtag horrified situation.

[34:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Why do you keep doing that with your hands?

[34:52] Peggy: That's not a thing.

[34:53] Brandon Uranowitz: That's like a hashtag.

[34:55] Peggy: Well, it's also called a pound sign.

[34:57] Brandon Uranowitz: What was the hashtag horrified situation?

[35:00] Peggy: Do you remember when Morgan James wrote hashtag horrified about the um Into the Woods in the park?

[35:06] Brandon Uranowitz: This was so long ago.

[35:07] Peggy: It was long ago.

[35:08] Brandon Uranowitz: She had like four followers.

[35:09] Peggy: Yeah, yeah.

[35:09] Brandon Uranowitz: And that was sort of like the beginning of cancel culture.

[35:12] Peggy: That was one that was one that was like sort of the launch of the really big cancel culture.

[35:18] Brandon Uranowitz: Well, yeah, Sondheim.

[35:20] Peggy: I've got an idea.

[35:24] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[35:22] Peggy: How about we do a game I like to call booked and blessed?

[35:31] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm okay.

[35:32] Peggy: So I'm taking this moment.

[35:33] Brandon Uranowitz: Have you we're we're going back to Cheer?

[35:35] Peggy: I feel like we should stop um saying booked and saying um made mat.

[35:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Like I made mat.

[35:43] Peggy: Do you know what that is?

[35:44] Brandon Uranowitz: You have to see Cheer to know what that is.

[35:46] Peggy: Made mat.

[35:47] Brandon Uranowitz: Like if you're on like a professional college cheer team, there are the athletes who are on the mat and their athletes who are off the mat.

[35:57] Peggy: And right now I want to say that I made mat.

[36:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, I want to introduce you to a new segment called Made Matt.

[36:06] Peggy: I'm blessed.

[36:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, so I'm gonna give you sides for Bach.

[36:12] Peggy: And I'd like you to read them.

[36:14] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[36:14] Peggy: Okay, I'll read them with you.

[36:15] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[36:16] Peggy: Because we only have one.

[36:17] Brandon Uranowitz: And are these the original Telsi sides?

[36:19] Peggy: Yes, they are.

[36:20] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[36:20] Peggy: And Peggy's gonna coach you.

[36:22] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm gonna coach her once we go.

[36:23] Peggy: I'll be your reader and then I'll call you.

[36:24] Brandon Uranowitz: Am I gonna make mat?

[36:26] Peggy: Okay.

[36:26] Brandon Uranowitz: We'll see.

[36:28] Peggy: This rule Bach is so stupid, but it's it wicked gonna be around forever, and so you might as well go in for it.

[36:33] Brandon Uranowitz: I mean, in fact, have you been for it?

[36:35] Peggy: No.

[36:35] Brandon Uranowitz: Have you been in for Chistery?

[36:37] Peggy: No.

[36:37] Brandon Uranowitz: The monkey.

[36:38] Peggy: Um, have you been in for the other thing?

[36:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Doesn't Chistery need to like really dance?

[36:41] Peggy: Again, I'm talking strong mover.

[36:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, have you been in for Fiero?

[36:45] Peggy: It's a big singing role, I think.

[36:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh, Bach is the best for you.

[36:48] Peggy: Okay.

[36:48] Brandon Uranowitz: But Fiero's also like he's gotta be hot, you know?

[36:51] Peggy: Right.

[36:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, okay, so why don't you read this?

[36:53] Peggy: Okay.

[36:54] Brandon Uranowitz: Miss Gelinda.

[36:58] Peggy: Miss Gelinda, I know I'm just a mere munchkin, but even a munchkin has feelings.

[37:03] Brandon Uranowitz: And I've tried to tell you of mine for you.

[37:06] Peggy: But sometimes it's like you don't even know who I am.

[37:10] Brandon Uranowitz: That's not true, Bick.

[37:12] Peggy: Bach.

[37:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Bick.

[37:14] Peggy: Do you realize who that is?

[37:16] Brandon Uranowitz: You're touching me.

[37:18] Brandon Uranowitz: That's that was good.

[37:19] Peggy: Okay, so what I'd love to work on is speaking of authenticity.

[37:22] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[37:22] Peggy: Um, because that's something that you want to do more of.

[37:25] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, first of all, I don't think they like to be called munchkins.

[37:27] Peggy: Um, so let's change.

[37:28] Brandon Uranowitz: Actually, can we mark this up?

[37:29] Peggy: Um, I just think say I'm just a little person.

[37:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[37:33] Peggy: Um, and then I think you should be more embarrassed.

[37:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[37:38] Peggy: Can you act embarrassed?

[37:40] Brandon Uranowitz: That's a great note.

[37:41] Peggy: And can you do your Gilbert Gottfried?

[37:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Um because I like that impression you did.

[37:45] Peggy: You like my okay.

[37:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Don't free have a part your chords though, because it's a little bit I don't need them for anything right now.

[37:51] Peggy: Yeah, okay.

[37:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, uh remind me, does Gilbert Gottfried have like an accent?

[37:57] Peggy: He does, right?

[37:58] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[37:59] Peggy: Yeah.

[37:59] Brandon Uranowitz: A little bit.

[38:00] Peggy: A little bit, right?

[38:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, yeah.

[38:02] Peggy: Okay, great, great.

[38:03] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[38:04] Brandon Uranowitz: Miss Gelinda!

[38:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Miss Gelinda!

[38:07] Brandon Uranowitz: I know I'm just a mere little person, but even a little person has feelings. This is like Harvey Fierstein.

[38:14] Brandon Uranowitz: And I've tried to tell you of mine for you.

[38:18] Brandon Uranowitz: But sometimes it's like you don't even know who I am.

[38:22] Peggy: That's not true, Bic.

[38:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Bach!

[38:25] Peggy: Bic!

[38:26] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you realize who that is?

[38:28] Peggy: You're touching me!

[38:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh.

[38:31] Peggy: That gets you on the mat.

[38:33] Brandon Uranowitz: I mean, Matt.

[38:34] Brandon Uranowitz: That gets you on the mat because this is something that they've never seen at Wicked.

[38:38] Peggy: Nobody knows what this stupid cheer is.

[38:41] Brandon Uranowitz: Um literally everybody.

[38:45] Peggy: Should we do one more scene?

[38:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[38:47] Peggy: Alright, I would love, I would love you to do another box scene.

[38:50] Brandon Uranowitz: You'll have to be around.

[38:51] Peggy: You're gonna be alpha bug.

[38:53] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, okay.

[38:54] Peggy: Yeah, alright.

[38:55] Brandon Uranowitz: Alright.

[38:56] Brandon Uranowitz: Bach, come here at once.

[38:59] Peggy: Start over.

[39:00] Brandon Uranowitz: Can we start over here?

[39:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Sometimes you only get one chance.

[39:02] Brandon Uranowitz: I just want to remind everybody.

[39:03] Brandon Uranowitz: Bach, come here at once.

[39:05] Peggy: Nessa, wait.

[39:07] Peggy: No one can know I'm here.

[39:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Yes, what is it?

[39:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Madam Governor.

[39:11] Peggy: You stay back.

[39:14] Brandon Uranowitz: Bach, it's just me.

[39:15] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm not gonna hurt you.

[39:17] Peggy: You're lying.

[39:17] Brandon Uranowitz: That's all you ever do.

[39:18] Brandon Uranowitz: You and your sister, she's as wicked as you are.

[39:21] Peggy: Bach.

[39:22] Brandon Uranowitz: What are you talking about?

[39:23] Peggy: That's good.

[39:25] Brandon Uranowitz: I think like if you did it.

[39:28] Peggy: I think you need to raise the stakes.

[39:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[39:30] Peggy: You know what I mean?

[39:31] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, yeah.

[39:31] Peggy: And um I Can you tell me a little bit of the context of the scene?

[39:34] Brandon Uranowitz: What's happening here?

[39:35] Peggy: Yeah, Bach, I don't know who he is, but he loves like maybe he loves this madam lady, Nessa Rose is like in a wheelchair, maybe.

[39:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Um, and you're green.

[39:46] Peggy: Okay.

[39:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Very helpful.

[39:47] Peggy: So let's try again.

[39:48] Brandon Uranowitz: Also, can I just make it?

[39:50] Brandon Uranowitz: Can I Can I make a request?

[39:52] Peggy: Yeah.

[39:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, yeah.

[39:53] Brandon Uranowitz: Um sometimes when we go in for auditions, particularly for like film and TV, like the your read the reader, you're Do you wanna do it into the camera?

[40:04] Peggy: Okay.

[40:04] Brandon Uranowitz: Is that what you're asking?

[40:05] Peggy: Well, no, no, no, because this is like specifically for you.

[40:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, okay.

[40:08] Peggy: You're giving the reader notes.

[40:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, great.

[40:09] Peggy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[40:10] Brandon Uranowitz: Well, no, no, no.

[40:11] Brandon Uranowitz: It's just uh it would be helpful for me if like we collectively raise the stakes.

[40:16] Peggy: Okay.

[40:17] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you know what I mean?

[40:17] Brandon Uranowitz: Like if you gave me like something.

[40:20] Peggy: Okay.

[40:20] Brandon Uranowitz: Alright.

[40:24] Brandon Uranowitz: Bach, come here at once!

[40:26] Peggy: Exactly.

[40:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Nessa, wait.

[40:28] Peggy: No one can know I'm here.

[40:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Yes, it is!

[40:31] Peggy: Madam Governor!

[40:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Youck.

[40:33] Peggy: Stay back!

[40:34] Brandon Uranowitz: Fuck, it's just me.

[40:36] Peggy: I'm not gonna hurt you.

[40:37] Brandon Uranowitz: You're lying.

[40:38] Brandon Uranowitz: That is all you do.

[40:39] Brandon Uranowitz: You and your sister, you or she as wicked as you are.

[40:42] Peggy: Fuck.

[40:43] Brandon Uranowitz: What are you talking about?

[40:45] Peggy: Yeah.

[40:45] Brandon Uranowitz: It's better, right?

[40:46] Peggy: Yeah.

[40:46] Brandon Uranowitz: When we're there together.

[40:47] Peggy: Yeah, I like that.

[40:48] Brandon Uranowitz: That was right now.

[40:50] Peggy: I'm starting to get the impression.

[40:52] Brandon Uranowitz: This guy books.

[40:53] Peggy: Bless Matt's makes match.

[40:56] Brandon Uranowitz: Matt, he's good.

[40:57] Peggy: He cheers.

[40:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Sometimes.

[40:59] Peggy: It's like acting, singing, dancing, cheering.

[41:03] Brandon Uranowitz: How about we dive into the bowl of questions?

[41:05] Peggy: Okay.

[41:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Questions.

[41:09] Peggy: What is uh I'm gonna ask you some questions.

[41:12] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, okay.

[41:13] Peggy: Would you like to choose one for yourself?

[41:15] Brandon Uranowitz: Kinda.

[41:15] Peggy: Alright, great.

[41:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Can we do that?

[41:17] Peggy: Choose two and I'll ask them.

[41:20] Brandon Uranowitz: You ask one each.

[41:24] Peggy: You ask me and I'll ask you.

[41:25] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, who goes first?

[41:26] Peggy: You choose.

[41:27] Brandon Uranowitz: You're my guest.

[41:28] Peggy: I want everything to be comfortable for you here.

[41:30] Brandon Uranowitz: No, you don't.

[41:31] Peggy: Yes, you've been so hospitable thus far.

[41:33] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[41:33] Peggy: No one asked you, Ellen.

[41:34] Brandon Uranowitz: Ellen's off mic mystery ghost head.

[41:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Brandon Uranowitz.

[41:40] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you collect anything?

[41:43] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh no, not really.

[41:45] Peggy: I mean, I like don't throw out my playbills.

[41:49] Brandon Uranowitz: That of every show you've ever seen?

[41:51] Peggy: Pretty much.

[41:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Where do you put them?

[41:53] Peggy: In a drawer.

[41:53] Brandon Uranowitz: You should Marie Kondo your apartment.

[41:55] Peggy: Have you heard of it?

[41:56] Brandon Uranowitz: I really should Marie Kondo my apartment.

[41:57] Peggy: Yeah, I have the impression in my mind that you just like live like a hoarder.

[42:02] Brandon Uranowitz: Not you're not far off.

[42:08] Peggy: Oh my god, Jesus.

[42:10] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay, Peggy.

[42:11] Peggy: Okay.

[42:12] Brandon Uranowitz: What's your go-to gift to go?

[42:14] Peggy: Go to gift.

[42:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Go to gift.

[42:17] Peggy: I love, and this is something everybody loves, and you cannot fail at this.

[42:21] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[42:22] Peggy: And it is um, it's a 12-pack of bubbly water.

[42:27] Brandon Uranowitz: I mean, I would love to receive that.

[42:30] Peggy: What flavor?

[42:31] Brandon Uranowitz: You can get a variety pack.

[42:33] Peggy: Okay.

[42:34] Brandon Uranowitz: Cherry.

[42:34] Peggy: Cherry's my pick.

[42:36] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, everybody loves it.

[42:38] Peggy: I mean, I would truly love it.

[42:39] Brandon Uranowitz: Like, for the people who have everything.

[42:41] Peggy: I'm actually shocked.

[42:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, for you, for people like you that have everything and are just like very like materialistic and vain, like you might you just need to get them something they can consume.

[42:50] Peggy: You know what I mean?

[42:51] Brandon Uranowitz: And if you don't want to spend the bucks on like the bourbon, you get them just some bubbly water.

[42:56] Peggy: I think it's a great gift.

[42:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Thank you.

[42:59] Peggy: Even for someone who's not vain and horrible like me.

[43:03] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[43:04] Peggy: Alright.

[43:06] Peggy: It's time for a game called Who Am I.

[43:09] Peggy: This is a game we like to play where I give you clues to someone.

[43:12] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[43:12] Peggy: And you have to guess who they are.

[43:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[43:14] Peggy: Are they Broadway people?

[43:15] Brandon Uranowitz: They're in the entertainment field.

[43:16] Peggy: Okay.

[43:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay?

[43:17] Peggy: Yeah.

[43:18] Brandon Uranowitz: Alright.

[43:18] Brandon Uranowitz: I was born in Ohio.

[43:20] Peggy: Mm-hmm.

[43:21] Brandon Uranowitz: I have an MFA.

[43:23] Peggy: Okay.

[43:24] Brandon Uranowitz: In 1982, I was introduced to Steven Sondheim.

[43:27] Peggy: Do you know who that is?

[43:28] Brandon Uranowitz: I think so, yeah.

[43:29] Peggy: I'm married to someone named Sarah.

[43:33] Brandon Uranowitz: I've won awards, unlike Brandon.

[43:36] Peggy: Do you know who it is?

[43:37] Brandon Uranowitz: Yes, I do.

[43:38] Peggy: Who?

[43:38] Brandon Uranowitz: James Lapine.

[43:42] Peggy: What time did it get there?

[43:44] Brandon Uranowitz: The Sarah?

[43:45] Peggy: Damn it.

[43:46] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm married to a woman named Sarah.

[43:47] Peggy: Okay.

[43:48] Brandon Uranowitz: Wow.

[43:49] Peggy: Sorry.

[43:50] Brandon Uranowitz: Not as dumb as he looks.

[43:51] Peggy: Don't fuck with my James Lapine.

[43:55] Brandon Uranowitz: He he he never misses an opportunity to name drop.

[43:58] Peggy: And this show is perfect for that because he's found a lot of holes, and in the holes, he just dropped the name.

[44:04] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah, I gotta fill the space.

[44:05] Peggy: Yeah.

[44:05] Brandon Uranowitz: There's a lot of dead air.

[44:06] Peggy: There's a lot of dead air with your losses.

[44:09] Brandon Uranowitz: And that energy, that kind of like imposter syndrome energy, you know, it's okay.

[44:14] Peggy: It's it's a giant, it's a blimp of space that it takes up.

[44:18] Brandon Uranowitz: Imposter energy, yeah.

[44:20] Peggy: Yeah, that you have to cope with it every day.

[44:21] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[44:22] Peggy: And just like kind of living up to your the expectations you had for yourself and your parents had for you.

[44:28] Brandon Uranowitz: Yep.

[44:28] Peggy: Did you go to school?

[44:30] Brandon Uranowitz: I did.

[44:30] Peggy: Where'd you go?

[44:31] Brandon Uranowitz: NYU.

[44:32] Peggy: Oh, yeah.

[44:33] Brandon Uranowitz: Couldn't get into Michigan.

[44:34] Peggy: It's like there's a lot going on, a lot of layers to the display.

[44:37] Brandon Uranowitz: I didn't apply to Michigan.

[44:38] Brandon Uranowitz: And I didn't go for musical theater.

[44:40] Peggy: Where'd you go for?

[44:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Dancing?

[44:42] Brandon Uranowitz: Acting.

[44:44] Peggy: Stein.

[44:45] Brandon Uranowitz: I mean, like, think about it.

[44:46] Peggy: Dancing.

[44:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh my god, Peggy.

[44:47] Peggy: I don't know.

[44:48] Brandon Uranowitz: We've been through the hierarchy like 600 times this year.

[44:51] Peggy: Sure.

[44:52] Brandon Uranowitz: Gonna look it up.

[44:52] Peggy: Never gonna look it up.

[44:55] Brandon Uranowitz: He's getting hostile.

[44:58] Brandon Uranowitz: I was born in San Diego.

[45:00] Peggy: Uh-huh.

[45:01] Brandon Uranowitz: I served in the Marine Corps.

[45:03] Peggy: Uh-huh.

[45:03] Brandon Uranowitz: I worked as a door-to-door salesman selling Kirby vacuum cleaners.

[45:08] Peggy: Uh-huh.

[45:09] Brandon Uranowitz: I dislocated my sternum mountain biking once.

[45:13] Peggy: Uh-huh.

[45:13] Brandon Uranowitz: I applied to Juilliard, didn't get in, and then later applied again and apparently did get in.

[45:19] Peggy: Yep.

[45:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Who am I?

[45:20] Peggy: Adam Driver.

[45:21] Brandon Uranowitz: What?

[45:22] Peggy: He's not.

[45:23] Brandon Uranowitz: No, you were not gonna get those.

[45:25] Peggy: That's easy.

[45:27] Brandon Uranowitz: Do you like legitimately think I'm not?

[45:29] Peggy: These are so easy.

[45:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, really?

[45:31] Peggy: You said he was a marine.

[45:33] Brandon Uranowitz: You knew he was a marine.

[45:34] Peggy: Is that a known thing?

[45:35] Brandon Uranowitz: I went deep into a he literally had like three talkbacks for his foundation or his charity called Artists in the Armed Forces.

[45:43] Peggy: Well, then I need to do my research better.

[45:45] Brandon Uranowitz: Go to Well, speaking of which, actors are dumb.

[45:50] Peggy: And we all know it.

[45:50] Brandon Uranowitz: And this is a segment I like to call actors are dumb.

[45:53] Peggy: Everybody knows actors are dumb.

[45:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Where I'm gonna ask you trivia.

[46:00] Peggy: Okay.

[46:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay?

[46:01] Peggy: It's not gonna be these softballs right across the plate.

[46:06] Brandon Uranowitz: Alright.

[46:07] Peggy: This is perfect for you.

[46:09] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[46:10] Peggy: So is the actor who is dumb supposed to be me?

[46:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Yeah.

[46:13] Peggy: Oh, okay, cool.

[46:14] Brandon Uranowitz: I ask trivia to everybody who comes on the show.

[46:16] Peggy: Okay.

[46:16] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[46:17] Brandon Uranowitz: They never get them.

[46:18] Peggy: Alright.

[46:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Broadway trivia?

[46:20] Peggy: Or just trivia trivia.

[46:21] Brandon Uranowitz: Trivia about the world.

[46:22] Peggy: Can you handle this?

[46:23] Brandon Uranowitz: Can you handle it?

[46:24] Peggy: Or are you gonna burn this?

[46:25] Brandon Uranowitz: I don't know what burn this is about, but I assume it's about somebody getting mad and burning something.

[46:31] Peggy: Okay.

[46:32] Brandon Uranowitz: They do burn something, but it's not about um yeah, anyway.

[46:35] Peggy: Yeah, yeah.

[46:35] Brandon Uranowitz: Well, this is gonna be about you being wrong.

[46:37] Peggy: Okay.

[46:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Jenga is Swahili for what word?

[46:41] Peggy: Tower.

[46:42] Brandon Uranowitz: No.

[46:43] Peggy: Build.

[46:44] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[46:45] Peggy: Good, very basic guess.

[46:47] Brandon Uranowitz: In polo, what is the period of play called?

[46:51] Peggy: Mat time.

[46:52] Brandon Uranowitz: I don't know.

[46:53] Peggy: He's obsessed with mat time being on the mat.

[46:55] Brandon Uranowitz: He's obsessed.

[46:56] Peggy: No, not everything is about a mat.

[46:58] Brandon Uranowitz: Chuka.

[46:59] Peggy: It's called chucka.

[47:00] Brandon Uranowitz: Or chuck up.

[47:01] Peggy: Okay.

[47:01] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh, so you don't even know.

[47:02] Peggy: I don't even know.

[47:04] Brandon Uranowitz: Chaka.

[47:04] Peggy: I don't even know it.

[47:05] Brandon Uranowitz: And if I don't know, then you know it's hard.

[47:07] Peggy: How many white keys does a modern piano have?

[47:11] Brandon Uranowitz: 58.

[47:11] Peggy: I don't know.

[47:12] Brandon Uranowitz: 52.

[47:13] Peggy: Okay.

[47:13] Brandon Uranowitz: Close.

[47:14] Peggy: What is the capital of Costa Rica?

[47:17] Brandon Uranowitz: I don't know.

[47:17] Peggy: San Jose.

[47:19] Brandon Uranowitz: Oh.

[47:20] Peggy: Well, listen, before we go, I just want you to give um the people at home a little quick advice about life.

[47:26] Brandon Uranowitz: Your life advice.

[47:28] Peggy: My life advice.

[47:30] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh stop comparing yourself to other people.

[47:33] Peggy: Uh blah, blah, blah.

[47:34] Brandon Uranowitz: Look at everything on your own plate.

[47:39] Peggy: Easy for you to say you got three Tony Noms.

[47:41] Brandon Uranowitz: Don't look at other people and compare the winners to yourself.

[47:45] Peggy: Check your lace front, you know?

[47:46] Brandon Uranowitz: Check your lace front.

[47:47] Brandon Uranowitz: Make sure it's.

[47:48] Peggy: Ignore the critics.

[47:49] Brandon Uranowitz: Ignore the critics.

[47:51] Brandon Uranowitz: Throw in the towel.

[47:51] Peggy: Ignore the critics, because if you believe the good, then you'll believe the bad.

[47:56] Brandon Uranowitz: Well, this has been wonderful.

[47:58] Peggy: Thank you so much for being here, Brandon.

[48:00] Brandon Uranowitz: Everybody, Brandon Uranowitz, look for him.

[48:03] Peggy: I don't know.

[48:04] Brandon Uranowitz: Some season.

[48:05] Peggy: He'll be back.

[48:05] Brandon Uranowitz: I'm sure he'll get a job again.

[48:07] Peggy: Assassins.

[48:08] Brandon Uranowitz: Assassins.

[48:09] Peggy: Broadway revival?

[48:11] Brandon Uranowitz: Off Broadway.

[48:11] Peggy: Oh, okay.

[48:12] Brandon Uranowitz: New World Stages?

[48:13] Peggy: Classic stages.

[48:14] Brandon Uranowitz: Okay.

[48:15] Peggy: Look for him there.

[48:17] Brandon Uranowitz: This has been Getting Peggy with It.

[48:19] Peggy: Sure have.

[48:22] Brandon Uranowitz: You've been listening to Getting Peggy with It on the Broadway Podcast Network.

[48:22] Peggy: Getting Peggy with It is produced by Alan Seales and directed by Ellyn Marie Marsh.

[48:26] Brandon Uranowitz: Getting Peggy with It is edited by Alan Seales and Ellyn Marie Marsh.

[48:33] Peggy: And she won't let you forget it.

[48:35] Brandon Uranowitz: Please follow Peggy's adventures at Greetings, it's Peggy.

[48:38] Peggy: One word, zombies.

[48:40] Brandon Uranowitz: Special thanks to Taylor Newsom and Josh Lehman.

[48:43] Peggy: Peggy is a character created by Morgan James.

[48:46] Brandon Uranowitz: That's me.

[48:47] Peggy: Morgan James.

[48:48] Brandon Uranowitz: And Peggy.

[48:50] Peggy: And Morgan.

[48:54] Brandon Uranowitz: Are you okay?

[48:58] Peggy: No, no, no.

[48:59] Brandon Uranowitz: Go back to.

[49:00] Peggy: Go back to where are you?

[49:08] Brandon Uranowitz: No, I wanted this one.

[49:09] Peggy: What's my hair anyway?

[49:11] Brandon Uranowitz: Uh.

[49:12] Peggy: Yeah.

[49:13] Brandon Uranowitz: That part.

[49:16] Peggy: Okay.

[49:18] Brandon Uranowitz: Just okay, go or do that part for burn this or something.

[49:22] Peggy: Okay.

[49:22] Brandon Uranowitz: I just don't want to.

[49:24] Peggy: You can go to you can go to the next one.

[49:25] Brandon Uranowitz: That's fine.

[49:26] Peggy: She's a little bossy.

[49:28] Brandon Uranowitz: As you can see, we got a studio and now she just very serious.

[49:31] Peggy: It's very serious.

[49:32] Brandon Uranowitz: Um let's just flow organically, Alan, before your big callback.

[49:36] Peggy: Um what was your next probably show?

[49:38] Brandon Uranowitz: Is it okay if I move on?

[49:41] Brandon Uranowitz: He's got a lot.