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ONE YEAR OF BEING ODD: Bellamy Young Is Back, Bitches!
ONE YEAR. A LOT OF BADASS WOMEN. ZERO INTEREST IN BEING NORMAL.
Holy shit. Odd Woman Out is officially ONE YEAR OLD.
And to celebrate 365 days of unfiltered conversations, iconic women, and embracing everything that makes us a little different, we're taking it all the way back to where the chaos began.
Our first-ever guest. The original Odd Woman. The one and only BELLLAMY YOUNG.
That's right. We're re-releasing the episode that started it all, and trust us, this conversation hits just as hard a year later.
Host Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo (aka Tutz) sits down with the woman behind Scandal's legendary Mellie Grant to talk about the shit women are actually dealing with: body image, self-worth, Hollywood's ridiculous beauty standards, and the exhausting pressure to have it all figured out.
Spoiler alert: Nobody has it all figured out. Not even Mellie fucking Grant.
Bellamy gets vulnerable about learning to love herself, finding confidence in an industry obsessed with perfection, and why meditation and staying true to herself have been game changers.
And yes, WE TALK SCANDAL.
From playing one of television's most complicated and powerful women to the lessons Mellie taught her about ambition, resilience, and owning your voice, Bellamy gives us a look at the woman behind the character.
But she's not stopping at Hollywood.
We get into her self-produced sci-fi novel, The Aetherion Code: Book One — The Spark, created with fellow actor and writer Faye Masterson, and why women need to stop waiting for permission to create the things they want to see in the world.
Plus, we're talking Broadway dreams, theater girl energy, supporting other women without making it a competition, and why being the odd woman out might actually be the best thing that ever happened to you.
Because here's the thing: Fitting in is overrated. Being yourself? That's the whole fucking point.
One year ago, Bellamy helped us kick off a show about women who refuse to shrink themselves to make other people comfortable. And after a year of incredible guests and conversations, that mission hasn't changed one bit.
To the OG Odd Squad, the new girls, and everyone who's ever felt like they didn't quite fit the mold—this one's for you.
We're one year older, a little louder, and just getting started.
The body image bullshit: Loving yourself when the world keeps telling you to change
The Scandal of it all: Mellie Grant, Shonda Rhimes, and playing one of TV's most iconic women
Making your own damn opportunities: Bellamy's sci-fi novel The Aetherion Code
Broadway baby: Theater roots, big dreams, and what's still on her bucket list
Being the odd one out: Why your quirks, differences, and imperfections are actually your greatest assets
Connect with Bellamy Young:
Book: The Aetherion
Instagram: @bellamyyoung
Connect with Tutz:
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HAPPY ONE YEAR, ODD SQUAD. STAY WEIRD. STAY LOUD. NEVER MAKE YOURSELF SMALLER. 💗
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[0:00] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: This show, I dreamed it up because when I first started covering live events, I would watch footage back and never focus on interviewing Jimmy Fallon or the work that I was doing or how I could conduct these interviews. I would focus on my hair being out of place or why did I pick that outfit or my arm looks fat and things that are just not what we should be focusing on. And I said, you know, if I'm feeling like this and in a sort of smaller space, I want to talk to the women who are existing in larger spaces and see what their experience was like. And if we talk about it, hopefully it will help somebody else not feel insecure or beating themselves up about these things that don't matter, but we feel like they matter.
I can't wait for this show to be pushed out there and everyone. I hope if it can inspire one woman to, you know, love herself a little bit more, then that's what we're doing. Hi, Bellamy. Welcome to Odd Woman Out, a podcast. You are literally one of our very first guests on the show. I am honored. So you are making history right now. Let's hope. We're here in the Welcome to Times Square studio. We were admiring the gorgeous view.
[1:23] Bellamy Young: Yes, it's so pretty. We were saying we need to camp out here for the ball drop. We're going to pop some champagne, get some snacks. I'll make a cheese board. I'm excellent at cheese board making. We'll be like, just so you know, we have a bathroom and you guys are wearing diapers. We don't have that up here. Anyway, I'm so excited for this show. I've been dreaming up this show for quite a while to talk to powerful, amazing women artists about being a woman in the industry and inspiring the next generation of women. So to kick that off, can you tell us a woman that maybe inspired you when you were younger to want to be an actor?
[1:59] Bellamy Young: Oh, my goodness. You know, I grew up in the mountains in North Carolina. And I, you know, before I was thinking about careers or, you know, what I want to be when I grow up, we were always surrounded by craftsmen and musicians. And that community, particularly up in the mountains, like near Burnsville, where my dad grew up and where my grandparents were, it was the most inclusive community I saw, like even in Asheville, like the men went to work and the women, you know, stayed home usually or they were teachers. And when I when we were in Burnsville, like the men and the women, it was equal parts, playing banjos and singing and making, you know, whittling and doing all the things.
[2:47] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Whittling? What is whittling?
[2:51] Bellamy Young: Well, I had to put the extra syllable so you'd understand. But my people say whittling. But yes, you make things with a knife out of wood. And they're beautiful. But that's so that's really I just wanted to be a part, you know, this this wonderful family of people. We all just we are looking for our family. Yeah. And that looked like the family I wanted to be a part of and felt like I could contribute to it just was very instinctive. But when I think about what you say, like what wanted me what made me want to be an actor, I think about the earliest performance that I can think of that I thought, Oh, I want to go to there. Was Judy Garland and Wizard of Oz. Yes. I mean, and every year when it came on TV, it was my personal Christmas. My calendar was sort of like Wizard of Oz and then 364 boring days and then Wizard of Oz. Because that was back in the day when things just came on once a year. You couldn't stream it. But I just thought, Oh, how magical.
[3:53] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, that's so funny. My family, our like family movie is Wizard of Oz. So I grew up as well, like just ingesting all of the Wizard of Oz. The Christmas tree was filled with like, the Cowardly Lion and the Scarecrow. So Wizard of Oz is it really, really is magical. She was amazing in that and and and I have to say like, then growing up going through all the things learning more about her life and her journey. It sort of only deepens the awe. Everything she went through a blesser blesser blesser. But that she could still even at that point when she'd already been through a lot. Find that level of innocence and wonder. Yeah, it's still astonishes me a little bit.
[4:38] Bellamy Young: Yeah, she's an icon for sure. Okay, so then you were like, I'm gonna be an actress. I'm gonna do this. What was your first acting gig? And specifically, was there a woman like on set that like uplifted you like a woman uplifting another woman?
[4:56] Bellamy Young: Very first acting gig. I was five years old. And I was Gretel in the Sound of Music in the mountains in North Carolina. And in Burns Field, I'm just talking about Parkway Playhouse. It's still there. Go support Parkway Playhouse. Bless them. And I remember because my like, my family was pretty fractious. And I remember the woman who played Maria in that. I just remember being so amazed by her capacity. I mean, she's a beautiful performer and singer on stage, but she also would like then have us over to where she was staying and like make dinner for everybody. She was like a true mama, like one of those people that could sort of just handle life in a way that welcomed you hugged you. Yeah. And I just thought, Oh, my gosh, how?
Like, how does that work? You? You don't, you know, go home and hide and you're ashamed of something or you fight with someone, you're just like, do what you love all day. And then you like, have a wonderful night of like sharing more love with other people you've really just met. But it was I she she was astonishing. I will not get her name on the edge of my mouth right now. It'll come.
[6:13] Bellamy Young: I think about the first like, big gig I had. Yeah. Which was a Cy Coleman show called The Life at the Barrymore Theatre here in New York City on the way that is so broad. And it's Joan Lader. I think about Joan Lader. Like, I wouldn't admit I went on Accutane during that show, which if anybody's ever had an acne journey, Accutane will take you from an ingenue to Brenda Vaccaro in a day. And Joan Lader was just like carried me through in the palm of her hand.
[6:44] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: I love that. I love hearing those kinds of stories of just like, we're all doing it. And we don't have to be me. I mean, you know, there's so many like catty things happening. And when you find the light and the gorgeousness of it, it's so beautiful.
[6:56] Bellamy Young: It's fundamental. It's important.
[6:58] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, we have to support each other.
[7:01] Bellamy Young: Yes. Also, we're so lucky to get to do what we love.
[7:03] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Oh, my God.
[7:03] Bellamy Young: There's no reason not to be joyful and grateful.
[7:05] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Hello. Yeah, just to wake up every morning and be like, wow, I did that today. I was like, wow.
[7:10] Bellamy Young: Yeah.
[7:10] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: I'm recording this show that I thought up in my head one day.
[7:13] Bellamy Young: Right?
[7:14] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Just like crazy things. And then to try not to be jaded in those moments is also so important.
[7:19] Bellamy Young: I did the same thing. I woke up and I thought, oh, my God, I get to go and have this cool conversation. We're gonna just like, and maybe somebody will hear it. And maybe somebody will, you know, may it ripple on. So thank you for thinking of this.
[7:30] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Oh, my God. Thank you for coming on. Are you kidding me? Because we'll talk about later. I'm a scandal head or whatever.
[7:37] Bellamy Young: What do you call the scandal fans?
[7:39] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Uh, gladiators.
[7:40] Bellamy Young: Oh, obviously.
[7:44] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Oh my God. We'll get into that later. But I was like, okay, don't even try. So I was telling you before we started recording that this show, I dreamed it up because when I first started covering live events, I would watch footage back and never focus on interviewing Jimmy Fallon or the work that I was doing or how I could conduct these interviews. I would focus on my hair being out of place or why did I pick that outfit or my arm looks fat and things that are just not what we should be focusing on. And I said, you know, if I'm feeling like this and in a sort of smaller space, I want to talk to the women who are existing in larger spaces and see what their experience was like. And if we talk about it, hopefully it will help somebody else not feel insecure or beating themselves up about these things that don't matter, but we feel like they matter because of the pressures or whatever.
[8:42] Bellamy Young: Whatever we're noticing, I will, anybody who's listening, I will tell you a thousand percent, I'm 5,500 years old.
[8:47] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: No, she's not.
[8:48] Bellamy Young: I am. I'm 55. And so I know.
[8:51] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: 5,500. Feels like 5,500. Nobody ever notices what we notice.
[8:57] Bellamy Young: Correct.
[8:58] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: They don't care.
[8:58] Bellamy Young: See it.
[8:59] Bellamy Young: They don't care. They don't see it. Like, oh my God, the time and energy and self-love that we waste. It breaks my heart. So yeah, let's have this. Let's get to it.
[9:10] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. So my question to you is, can you tell us about a time where you felt feelings like this and what space was it and how did you overcome it and focus on your work and your opportunity instead?
[9:20] Bellamy Young: Oh my gosh. I mean, that's all day, every day still. I feel like it's life's work, especially because as women, we keep ingesting narratives of other, like perfection or like, especially now people are changing their faces so much. So even the definition are implicit. Like what we think of as human is evolving because we're looking at things that are altered. And so it's so, the topography is so difficult to navigate. And I have spent, just like you, so many minutes in the moment where I'm just not in the moment because I'm like, oh my God, can they see that thigh ripple or, you know, oh, my fake tan's uneven or I think my eyelash just sprung or just like whatever stupid stuff that may be going on.
It may be going on, but I guarantee you everybody else is in their own heads and they are not noticing anything about us except like how we're making them feel is basically how people notice really at the end of the day. But it has helped me. What I can offer is meditation, meditation, meditation. It helps me gain a kinesthetic understanding of what presence is so that I can remember that and drop into it when my mind gets too chatty or my discomfort gets too high. I'm definitely a person born with not a lot of confidence. So, um,
[10:59] Bellamy Young: The track in my head isn't kind. So the meditation just helps me practice. So the off like when I'm not in a situation like this, where I'm really self-aware, like I'm home and I do my meditation, it helps me practice for the moments when I'm like being looked at or being talked to or lit too much for a lady my age. And I can remember what it feels like to just be present and honest. And so I just lean into that. Yeah, it's so important to lean into that, especially, like I was saying, when you have these amazing opportunities, or you get an amazing gig, right? To stay present and like, okay, I have this amazing part, like nobody cares about my hair, or if I didn't sleep enough and what my face might look like, just me.
And it's just so important to remember that those things don't matter as much as we think they do. And they're just human. Literally, everybody's a human being, human being. It's like, my husband and I were talking about this the other day. When you go to the theater, and somebody on stage makes a mistake. And that somebody on stage is probably going to like beat themselves up definitely for the rest of the night, possibly for the rest of their lives, as you're going to go home for the rest of your life and be like, I was there tonight. Like, I'm thinking of like, there was one time on the stage, and the door didn't open. And we're like, Oh, my God. And we had to walk around the set. And oh, we screwed up the ring, you know, you know, suspension of disbelief, whatever.
But like people that were there, I've talked to them 10 years later, and they were like, I was there. The door didn't open. You had to go around. It was like thing and thing and thing. And it was like, amazing. Yeah. People, you know, like all the behind the scenes content.
[12:46] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, they love it.
[12:47] Bellamy Young: Love reality.
[12:48] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, yeah.
[12:49] Bellamy Young: More than we think they do. We're rooted in it. Yeah, exactly.
[12:52] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: So we're talking about being strong, powerful women overcoming some bullshit.
[12:57] Bellamy Young: Hello.
[12:59] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Speaking of strong women. Although I was a gladiator myself. We got to talk about Mellie Grant, because I think I know she's one of the strongest female characters I've seen on TV, the shit she deals with and overcomes to then become the literal president, even if it was because of murder.
[13:17] Bellamy Young: I mean,
[13:18] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: So can you tell us what you learned most from playing Mellie, and what you still take with you a lesson she taught you that you take with you and implement in your life today?
[13:29] Bellamy Young: Oh my god, I learned so much. And I'm so lucky that I mean, that's that whole experience was such a gift, not just the part, but the family.
[13:43] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah.
[13:44] Bellamy Young: The what we all went through together, the way we still share it with the world, because I still have conversations about I'm so lucky. And, you know, now we live in a time where as opposed to Wizard of Oz that came on once a year, like you can watch Scandal all the time.
[14:00] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, I didn't watch Scandal until the last few years.
[14:03] Bellamy Young: We're so lucky. It's still because it's still I didn't watch it ever until we were putting together a fundraiser for Asheville, North Carolina when Hurricane Helene hit. And I was trying to pick an episode for us to read for the fundraiser. And I started just sort of like looking through a couple to see what would be appropriate. And then I got hooked and watched it all. It was so good. I was so proud of it. I really, really want to say something dumb to say.
[14:30] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: No, it's not.
[14:31] Bellamy Young: But Mellie, okay, you asked me about Mellie.
[14:32] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: It's not dumb to be proud of yourself, because that I mean, that is specifically that part that character is just so layered, you know?
[14:43] Bellamy Young: That writing was incredible. And I was so lucky, because it was just supposed to be a quick little thing.
[14:50] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: I was gonna say, weren't you just only supposed to be in the pilot?
[14:52] Bellamy Young: Yeah, I just had two lines in the pilot, one of which was, live! Full line.
[15:00] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: You crushed that one line. That's why they brought you back.
[15:02] Bellamy Young: Hey, thanks, you know.
[15:02] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: They were like, listen, that live.
[15:03] Bellamy Young: Oh, that's talent.
[15:04] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: That live was, we got it. We need her for the whole series.
[15:09] Bellamy Young: But they let me stay. And the joy of acting for me has always been not being me, right? Just getting to be anybody else for a minute. And so first of all, the act as if of Mellie was such a gift, because I already knew Tony directed me on Dirty Sexy Money. And of course, I had esteemed Carrie for so long. And so I was like, I'm in this room, I'm gonna get good tape for my reel. That was my goal. I saw my acting coach and I was like, I'm gonna stick this one because this is gonna, you know, take me somewhere in terms of the next audition. But it turned out that like, getting to pretend to be confident or, you know, she was very my way or the highway. I'm still, I still can't pretend to be that very much.
But it really changed me, like just the practice of it. And that family changed me. We were all theater kids. So the way we would rehearse with each other and support each other and just really explore things and, you know, the way even off screen, you know, Carrie would always make sure that she was the best number one for all of us, particularly for the other three girls that we'd never been through any of that before. And she took such impeccable care of us in terms of how to handle red carpets and how to borrow dresses and, you know, just how to handle interviews, how to stand. I mean, really, on a philosophical level, but also on a very practical level. She was so, so there for us, such a leader, such a quarterback.
[16:47] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: That's so important to you, especially tying into what we're talking about, about feeling secure in these situations of press or whatever, like to have somebody be like, this is how you do it. And it's going to be all good.
[17:00] Bellamy Young: Yeah. That felt like incredible. And just to know anything you if you had a question, you could ask, you know, and I want us all to be that for someone and to feel like we have someone to ask that of. Like, I want there to be a continuum of share, just a beautiful river of knowledge.
[17:13] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: We love going in all directions. We love rivers of knowledge.
[17:17] Bellamy Young: Yeah. But also the writing, I have to say, we got those scenes and they were like one act plays. So I mean, I've watched it like a few times through since I found it. And another friend of mine, too, and we'll text each other, I'm watching Scandal. And then we're like, are we? Well, because it's not like I mean, it's not like a joyful show, really, right? Like that's right. The crazy things are happening. So for that to be like your go to like feel good show is I'm like, am I okay, everyone?
[17:44] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: But I think I am. I think I'm fine.
[17:48] Bellamy Young: I think you're good. I think you're good.
[17:48] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: So what's the most similar thing between you and Mellie? And what's the most different?
[17:54] Bellamy Young: Similar? We are like doggedly loyal, I think. I think we were both you can say we're both very, very loyal people. And cranky. I'm pretty cranky. My husband will attest. Sometimes we have to be, you know, it just happens going back to we're all human. Usually you should just feed me and I'll be fine. But yeah, coffee, but she's doesn't care if you're comfortable. I even when I'm cranky, I care if you're if you feel good, if you feel comfortable, you feel seen and heard like that means a lot to me.
[18:32] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah.
[18:32] Bellamy Young: Mellie doesn't care at all. Not a bit. Not a little bit. Not even a tiny, tiny, tiny bit. She sure doesn't. And I love it about her. I just love it about her. Iconic. It's a lot of fun.
[18:44] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. I mean, I couldn't be that in real life. But oh my god, it was so fun to be up for seven years.
[18:48] Bellamy Young: Yeah, which is why I was like when when you when we knew we're gonna you were gonna come on the show. I was like, Oh my god, Mellie is like, such a strong woman, right? Maybe to a fault at some points, but like, everything she went through the cheating, whatever, and like, still stayed so strong and was like, Oh, yeah, mofo, I'm gonna come and do this now. And I'm going to use this to take myself to the top, instead of letting her trauma or whatever she's gone through defeat her she used it and it fueled her Yeah, to get to where she needed to be.
[19:24] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, not saying everybody that you should do that in real life. But the best choice.
[19:29] Bellamy Young: Yeah, not the best choice. But just be a strong woman, whatever that means to you.
[19:34] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Okay, I want to talk about your book. Can you grab it? Let's talk about this. I was so thrilled when I was reading up about this book, The Aetherion Code, because you self-produced it self-published it with another woman.
[19:41] Bellamy Young: Oh, yeah. What is her name?
[19:41] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Faye Masterson.
[19:46] Bellamy Young: There we go. Yes, exactly. Shout out. But this here now we can swap it out. We can add it on it. We have layers women supporting women. That's like the exact symbolism. Can you tell us how this book came to be? What inspired it?
[19:58] Bellamy Young: I couldn't be any happier. Thank you for asking. Yeah, no, this is amazing. My one of my dearest, dearest, dearest oldest, dearest friends, Faye Masterson and I we met, you know, when the millennium changed. Yeah, back in LA, we're both actors met in an audition room, and have had like an enduring dear friendship just born out of, you know, when you're out there in the audition. I know there aren't really audition rooms anymore, because we all self-tape. But back in the day, or zooms, like, I don't know, people used to like shut down and whatever, but it's a chance to start connecting, you know, never, I just never want us to be, I'm trying to cure myself of this coming from a fear mindset or a lack mindset.
There's enough for everybody, be yourself, show up in the room. And out of one of these weird, awkward testing situations, it was us and like two other girls and we're testing for you know, you sign your contract, you see how much money you or someone in the room with you will make. So close. This wonderful friendship was born. And we both are big science nerds. And so we're always sending each other like posts or back in the day, it was articles or, you know, emails, whatever. And we sent a series of texts that sort of revealed a story about she sent me one New York Times article about robots, therapy, AI. And I sent her one about 3D printed architecture on Mars. And I forget what the third one was right now.
But it just sort of, it just sort of suggested a story. Yeah. And this was coming out of COVID and into the first strike before the second strike. And we thought, Oh my God, we should write a book. And then we did. So we did. And we she's a morning person. I'm a night person. So we just sort of worked in a cyclical fashion. And it's a story about takes place in 2053 group of teenagers on Mars, because that's where the penal colony is. Okay. But they're really just testing it out proof of life for they want to, you know, Mars expansion, whatever. But it's, you know, rebellion and community and love.
[22:28] Bellamy Young: Yes, rewarding is the love, the friendship, the joy stays centered. And it is the point from which all else flows. And the work is the work, you know, we had so much to learn, because we're new at all of this. But y'all, we're all smarter than we think we are, we underestimate ourselves, but we think somebody else has the answer or knows more than we do. And especially, yeah, exactly, especially about the things you care about. You know enough or you can ask somebody who does. We were lucky to have good mentors along the way find people to ask the right questions of and the right people to ask the right questions. It's been an uphill battle because, you know, it's a noisy marketplace. And so I appreciate you letting me talk about it.
I think it's amazing, you know, especially, you know, people know you from TV shows and all the great acting work you've done. But as artists, there's so many layers to us. And we do things and it's important to say like, Hey, you don't have to be boxed into this acting box. And I'm more than what you see on TV. And I have other skills and passions and talents. And I think that's the life of an artist, especially to keep creative when as an actor, so often your creative life depends on a yes from somebody else. So you always have to be vigilant your whole life, like if it's class or if it's writing or whatever it is, to stay creative, to not need a yes from someone else to get your heart into the world.
And we're all just storytellers. So it's a different way of telling a story. And it was so rewarding. And now I know so much about trademark law and algorithms and sales things, but mostly I know about what's going to happen in book two and book three.
[24:13] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yes, book two and book three. We love to hear it. Tell everybody where they can buy this book.
[24:17] Bellamy Young: Well, the ethereumcode.com is the website, you can find all the information there, but find it anywhere. We have an amazing audio book that my dear, dear friend, our dear friend Rebecca Lohman did. And my husband did the music for us. So find that wherever you listen, find this wherever you buy Kobo, like Amazon, Indigo, all the places all around the world. It's there.
[24:38] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Get it, y'all. Get it, get it, get it. Well, that is incredible. And you know, a lesson I learned very early on in my New York life was sometimes, and by very early on, I mean in the last five years, sometimes all you have to do is ask. If you have something you want to do and you maybe think you know someone who can help, believe in yourself, have your confidence, be passionate about it and ask somebody. I feel like people are getting better at that.
[25:07] Bellamy Young: Yeah, I really, really do. Yeah. It's about being, it's like having confidence without being cocky, right? It's like you can be strong and believe in what you're doing and not have an ego about it and be like, I just want to make this thing. I think it's going to be fun.
[25:21] Bellamy Young: A hundred percent. I also think that as technology was democratized, the whole like gatekeeping infrastructure that was so monolithic just crumbled, which has been horrible for some people because everybody's lost a job, but wonderful in other ways because it reminds us all that we can get what we have inside us out and share with people and that people are interested and people go find your audience.
[25:43] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. Tell your story authentically. You'll find your audience. You're amazing. I barely even have looked at my cards because I'm just chatting. I'm just so happy.
[25:53] Bellamy Young: Well, you're good at what you do.
[25:53] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: So are you. So are you. Thank you for sharing everything about your book. I can't wait to read it.
[25:59] Bellamy Young: I hope you love it. I'm gonna. Oh my God, we had the best time. And then we'll talk about it and then I'll tell everyone after I read it, all my favorite parts. I know it sounds dystopian, but we wanted like hope and love to be at the heart of it because that's how we want people to feel is hopeful and connected.
[26:18] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Well, hello. We're living in a really crazy world right now. So hope and love is like very important. And community. Yeah. And freedom of speech, and which is why we're chatting while we still can.
[26:30] Bellamy Young: We still can. We will. Okay. That's another show. So we chatted a lot about being strong women, creating our own work, standing in our power. What do you think we can do right now as women artists to inspire the next generation to come in and be themselves and shut out any noise that makes them feel insecure or weird or sad?
[27:01] Bellamy Young: I think we here's what I'll say it this way. I feel like there was when I think about film, there was that moment in the golden age when there were so many female directors and we thought it was all going to happen. And then somehow we slid back to men telling men's stories and men producing those stories. And I don't want to backslide. I want to take this opportunity of democratized technology. And I want us all to keep showing up authentically, really telling our real stories. I don't it's so hard to even watch. We watched Sophie's Choice the other night. I'd never seen it. She's astonishing. So is Kevin Kline. God bless. She's very young in that, right? Oh, my God. She's like 22. It's so I mean, I might have to take a nap just thinking about it right now because it's so beautiful, the work.
And also it's so clearly Meryl Streep, by the way, in case nobody knows who we're talking about. That's right. The title is Sophie's Choice, but it's all written from the male point of view. And there's like some stuff in there about like she has to tell him, oh, you're such a good lover, like all this kind of stuff that I'm like. But it's Sophie's Choice, right? So I just want us all to keep showing up telling our stories because centering lived existence, like centering like truth is what will resonate with people, which is most important because that's where audience will come and algorithms love to follow numbers.
[28:17] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. But also bringing someone with us, you know, coming from a mindset of lack, but knowing that more is more like I know what I know, but what do you know? Oh, that's so interesting. That gives me the idea that I could do, you know, like, yeah, just keep taking our seat at the table and keep pulling up one more chair.
[28:35] Bellamy Young: I love that. So we chatted how you're a theater girl.
[28:41] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. Yeah. Tell us what is your dream show to do on Broadway? What is your let's get her on Broadway.
[28:49] Bellamy Young: First of all, if anyone's listening. Hello. I know I've been living around the corner for six years. Yeah. Easy, easy, easy commute to work. But tell us what is your dream like Broadway show?
[29:01] Bellamy Young: I've there have been two that I've been like, well, one is not going to happen. I mean, not going to happen, whatever. It doesn't matter. I had this like really dark take on Mama Rose after I did Mellie. Like I was coming from a like children's pageant past. Yeah. I was like, oh, I know this deeply. But that's now been done so well. And so definitively that that's I will that would just live in my heart. Yeah, really, really dark version of Gypsy. But I really there was also a time where I just wanted to do Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf with Tony. I just wanted to keep yelling at Tony. That was what I wanted. I love him. I love whatever you write next. That's what I want to be a part of. So if you're listening, she's available. I don't know if she's available. We'll have to check her schedule.
[29:56] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Well, we'll we'll work it out.
[29:56] Bellamy Young: Well, we will work it out. And real quick, you are in a show coming.
[30:04] Bellamy Young: Yes, exactly. Tell us a little bit about that, just so everyone can check you out in that.
[30:09] Bellamy Young: Oh, my God, super fun, because I am such a science nerd. And this is a show that Michael Grossi wrote based on the life of Oliver Sacks, man who mistook his wife for a hat like has proper nausea, like, but was a brilliant neuroscientist. And that came to a place that and I am the villain of the second season. Yeah. So whereas how fun that character is very base, you know, very like he treats the patient, you know, not the it's not the medical establishment. He really is about the patient. I am for profit medicine. So there's something fun to be the villain. It's so fun to be the villain.
[30:46] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: This was amazing. Thank you. I can't thank you enough for coming on.
[30:52] Bellamy Young: Thank you. Thank you for having these conversations.
[30:57] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, I can't I can't wait for for this show to be pushed out there and everyone. I hope if it can inspire one woman to, you know, love herself a little bit more, then that's that's what we're doing.
[31:02] Bellamy Young: That's what I was gonna ask you, like, if you want to close it on why you want like what you want people to feel, but you just did. Yeah, I just want a woman, a woman artist, a woman, anything to feel in her power. I love feel confident. I also want everybody to embrace the odd word, like embrace your truth. This is my last question to you.
[31:28] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Oh, okay. No, please. But go ahead.
[31:28] Bellamy Young: Oh, I just was gonna I love that you I love your name, the name of the podcast, because I want everybody to embrace their authenticity, their oddness, their whatever is yeah, most essentially, that's what nobody else has and nobody else is. So embrace the odd but just the out, you know, no, well, let's find our community. Let's lift each other up.
[31:49] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Exactly, exactly who we are. Embrace your that'll bring the people that resonate with us to us. And then we can like all go where we're going together. Yeah, it's like let your freak flag. What's up from Shrek? Asheville, North Carolina. Yeah. Let your freak flag fly. It's hard to say it's hard to say I won't even try your odd woman. I haven't had enough coffee. Let your odd woman fly.
[32:09] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: All right, everybody check out before we let you go let everyone know where they can keep up with you on social media, how to access whatever projects you're on links to your book, all the things I know you already told us a little bit about the book, but let's tell them again.
[32:21] Bellamy Young: Bellamy Young on all the places that I go because I don't go all the places. ethereancode.com brilliant minds is on NBC Peacock. And I have a podcast called she leads with care lifting up the amazing work of the humanitarian organization care. You can listen to that wherever you listen right after you've listened to all the odd woman out pockets.
[32:42] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Thank you so much.
[32:42] Bellamy Young: Thank you. This was amazing. Thank you. That was funny.
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