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[0:00] J. Harrison Ghee: Hello, we're here at the You Gotta Believe 10 Year Anniversary Gala. This is the Broadway Podcast Network and Survival Jobs: A Podcast. A lot of people are just listening, so can you please introduce yourself to the listeners?

[0:11] J. Harrison Ghee: Hi, listeners out there. I am Tony Award winner, J. Harrison Ghee. Thank you. I have to normalize it for myself.

[0:17] J. Harrison Ghee: No, thank you for saying that because if you weren't gonna do it, I was gonna be like Tony Award winner. Yeah, what am I doing? One of my best friends literally puts everyone in their phone as like their title. Yeah, and they're Broadway so and so, and so like when I won the Tony, they changed it. I am in their phone. Like, give people their credit. By the way, as you should, it's not an ego thing. That is like such a huge honor and dream that wear it on a hat.

[0:42] J. Harrison Ghee: I would, I'm gonna make you a hat. Sony award winner. So, like I said, we're here at the You Gotta Believe 10 year anniversary gala. Is this your first time at this gala?

[0:49] J. Harrison Ghee: Yes, it's my first time here, but it was an easy yes to come. What drew you to come? Like what it what drew you about this organization that made you want to be involved and be a supporter?

[1:00] J. Harrison Ghee: There's one thing that me and my friends are always building, and that's community. And we often talk about if we were to ever adopt, we would want to adopt older kids, and we know how important it is to get children at that age and so important in their development, and it's something that like if I hope to be a parent one day, that's an option that I have that I'm excited to explore.

[1:20] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah, for sure. So, you know, there's a common theme I'm talking about tonight that sort of ties into maybe what these kids are feeling, the sense of fear and hopelessness, which I think sort of trickles into the world right now and the United States. Um why do you think you're obviously a a big supporter of the arts, an amazing talent? How do you think the arts can help people heal, feel hopeful, decompress for a little bit?

[1:46] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah, I said recently to a friend, if you heal the heart of an artist, you can heal the world. Because we we molecularly shift people's hearts and minds, and getting to use our voices, literally, to speak out, to sing out, to give hope and light and joy and make people feel things is not something I take lightly. So yeah.

[2:12] J. Harrison Ghee: Thank you for sharing that. And before I let you go enjoy this beautiful party, in one word, can you tell our listeners why they should check out You Gotta Believe? In one word. I know it's such a hard question, but I love it. It's really good for my social media trends.

[2:27] J. Harrison Ghee: Consideration. Thank you. Thanks so much for chatting. Have a great night. See you.

[2:34] Rosie Perez: We are at You Gotta Believe 10 Year Anniversary Gala. We're from the Broadway Podcast Network. Can you guys please introduce yourself to the folks who are just listening?

[2:42] Seth Rudetsky: He said Brudeschi.

[2:45] Rosie Perez: She's Rosie Perez. Thank you so much. Now I don't think this is the first time the two of you have been at this gala.

[2:53] Seth Rudetsky: No, we were in the Ritz together. She was one of the stars, and I was in the background, so we didn't speak the whole time. Her dress room door was closed. But after that, we became good friends.

[3:01] Rosie Perez: No, she's amazing. Rosie does Rosie says yes to every single social justice event, even though she literally works non-stop.

[3:08] Seth Rudetsky: I that is not entirely true. I lend a hand with charities that I think are worthwhile, such as this one, You Gotta Believe. I was in the child welfare system myself, I was a ward of the state, and I also was in the foster care system. So I understand what these kids are going through. You know, there's a stigma that is unwarranted. You know, there is there is a need and a hope and a desperation for them to have their own home, their own family, and love and guidance. So an organization like this means everything, and that's why I'm here.

[3:43] Seth Rudetsky: That's amazing. Well, thank you guys for being here. I, for one, am so honored to be here tonight. I did a lot of research. You know, you're a big activist and supporters of this organization in particular. The world is scary right now, just like you know, a lot of things are scary that causes children to even have to go into the system. How do you think the arts can support anybody who's feeling hopeless or are fearful or straight up scared?

[4:09] Rosie Perez: The arts make a big difference. The more arts that are in school will really help because just hearing a song can inspire you, and that's what Rosie's story is about tonight. How helpless you felt as a child, but how music inspired her not to be open. Tell everybody what show turned your life around. What was the name of the musical?

[4:25] Rosie Perez: The Wiz. Boom. Boom. And how do we turn the life around? How do you think the arts can support somebody and maybe something a little bit different than that?

[4:34] Seth Rudetsky: It's what he says. It allows you to escape, it allows you to have hope, it allows you to have imagination, and also allows you to have critical thinking. Because while you're imagining, while you're dreaming of your future, you also start to plan it out. Amazing.

[4:51] Rosie Perez: And before I let you guys go in one word, can you tell our listeners why they should check this organization out? In one word. There is no one word. There's no one word. I'll just say need.

[5:02] Seth Rudetsky: Thank you so much for chatting. Thank you.

[5:07] Sherri Saum: Hi, how are you? Um, we are a podcast, so a lot of people are just listening. Can you please introduce yourself for our listeners?

[5:13] Sherri Saum: Yes, hi. My name is Sherri Saum. Um, I played Lena Adams Foster on the TV show The Fosters, which dealt with foster kids and all the stuff that happens in the world of you know foster care system.

[5:27] Sherri Saum: Amazing. Well, thank you for being here tonight. How do you think your role in this TV show has inspired you to come out and support this organization? Which I just want to say has allowed for 400 older youth to be adopted in the last 10 years, which is so incredible.

[5:43] Sherri Saum: I love to hear that. Um it's uh I don't want to get emotional right now.

[5:51] Sherri Saum: It's okay, we can do it here. We can get emotional. Um I can't I can hardly walk down the street, you know, on a busy street without someone coming up to me and telling me a story or being touched by you know The Fosters and what it meant to them and their journey, whether it was you know it was as a foster child or as someone who wants to adopt one day, or just someone who loves kids, you know. I just I always root for the underdog. You know, it's been my whole life. I've just always felt like I just want to be that person that lifts that person up, who needs someone who doesn't have someone who feels like an other or just feels left out. It's like there's there's no other just it's the worst feeling in the world to feel like you don't belong somewhere, you know, and especially when you're young, you know, when you're just trying to figure out life, and you don't have anybody to root you on. Um it breaks my heart and it makes me angry.

[6:57] Sherri Saum: Yeah, and um yeah. I just want to touch a little bit on uh on what you said about how people come up to you on the street and they thank you. You know, we're the world is scary all the time, but specifically right now, we're living in a really scary, uncertain time. How do you think art can help heal us or help give us hope?

[7:17] Sherri Saum: Art. Art. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Whatever. I mean, I really believe. I remember during COVID, uh, we were allowed to work on certain productions. They found a way for like certain productions to be able to continue. And I really felt at that time, I mean, I don't hope it doesn't sound like you know, full of ourselves, but I felt like you were kind of like an essential service because at that time when you feel like there's no hope, you can reach out to your TV at least and see a world that's happening that's unfolding that's either takes you out of the mindset you were in or encourages you to reach for something else or something better, or just even a distraction, you know, at the end of the day. And it's to me it's like a mental health tool in a lot of ways, you know. It's like I think it's therapy.

[7:56] Sherri Saum: It's uh well, thank you so much for being here tonight and for supporting this organization and for all that you do.

[8:04] Charlene Tilton: Hello, we're here with the Broadway Podcast Network at the 10th anniversary of You Gotta Believe Gala. Can you please introduce yourself to the people who are just listening?

[8:12] Charlene Tilton: Hi, Charlene Tilton. Charlene, is this your first time at the You Gotta Believe Gala?

[8:17] Charlene Tilton: No, this is um I was here at the very beginning, 10 years ago. It's our 10th anniversary. This is amazing. Congratulations. Can you let us know why you keep coming back and why you support this beautiful organization?

[8:28] Charlene Tilton: Well, I was raised in foster care from the time I was five years old to eight years old. And um then my mom, who was very mentally ill, was reinstitutionalized at the age of when I was 15. And I chose not to go back, and I ended up living with friends and then got my own apartment. So what you've got to believe does is they focus on children from the age of 10 up until they age out of the foster care system. And those old sorry, those older children sometimes are a little harder to place, and it's important that they're taken care of. And you've got to believe they they uh find they match the families with the children and they train them and they offer resources and things, so it's wonderful, yeah.

[9:15] Charlene Tilton: Yeah, it's a really really beautiful organization. I for one am so thrilled to be here tonight. So our you know, a big part of tonight is art and singing and and and gathering together. The world is scary right now, there's a lot of scary things happening always, but you know, right now. How do you think art is healing for for scary times for for everyone?

[9:37] Charlene Tilton: I think art is the best. Music, art, it's the great unifier, so I love it.

[9:44] Seth Rudetsky: Great. And in one word, can you let our listeners know why they should check out the You Gotta Believe organization?

[9:50] Charlene Tilton: Yeah, I'm sorry, can you in one word? Can you let our listeners know how that why they should check out the You Gotta Believe organization? In one word, you can cheat and give me some more.

[10:00] Charlene Tilton: Blessings. See, you did it. It was so great chatting with you.

[10:04] Charlene Tilton: You as well, Sue. Thank you for thank you for taking taking the time. You're the best.

[10:08] Janice Huff: Oh my god, and look at us in our bed. Look at us in our bed. I love it. We're festive. We need some cheer. Right, it's gonna be Christmas soon.

[10:18] Janice Huff: Hi, welcome. We're here at the You Gotta Believe 10 year anniversary gala. We are a podcast network, and a lot of people are just listening. Can you please introduce yourself to our listeners?

[10:28] Janice Huff: Sure, my name is Janice Huff. I am the chief meteorologist at WNBC TV, but I also was the host of Wednesday's Child, which was a 17-year project that we had going on here in New York City.

[10:40] Janice Huff: Well, thank you for being here tonight and for chatting with us. Is this your first time at this gala?

[10:45] Janice Huff: I was here for the first one. Wow. Happy 10 years to you. I haven't been here in a while, but um I think the first and second one I was here for. I'm happy to be back.

[10:55] Janice Huff: Amazing. So what is it about this organization that keeps you coming back?

[10:59] Janice Huff: Well, they have the perfect slogan entitled, You Gotta Believe. You gotta. Because let me tell you, believing in the process of adoption and changing the lives of people. Not just the people or the person you adopt and bring into your home, but it changes your life too. And let me tell you something, believe it. It really, really does. I've witnessed it, I've seen it happen.

[11:25] Janice Huff: Amazing. Thank you for sharing that. So tonight is a lot of focus around art and singing and celebration and joy. How do you think the arts can provide healing and comfort in a time when people are maybe not feeling so secure?

[11:40] Janice Huff: Well, it brings us joy ordinarily, whether it is your singing or dancing or painting or drawing. Whatever it is you're doing, um, especially if you're in the middle of it and it's something that brings you happiness, you can exude that to everybody else. They'll feel it, they'll see it, you know.

[11:56] Seth Rudetsky: Yeah, totally. Um, and if you can, in one word, can you let us know why our listeners should go ahead and check out You Gotta Believe?

[12:06] Janice Huff: You can cheat and give too if you want. It's incredible.

[12:12] Janice Huff: Incredible. And that's it. Thank you so much for chatting with us. Have a great time tonight.

[12:18] Alicia Fris: Hello, hi. We're here at the You Gotta Believe 10 year Anniversary gala. We are a podcast network. Most people are just listening. So can you please introduce yourself?

[12:27] Alicia Fris: Hi, I'm Alicia Fris. Hi, Alicia. Is this your first time at the You Gotta Believe Gala?

[12:32] Alicia Fris: It is. Yeah. And how did How did you get involved? What brought you here? What drew you to come out and support this organization?

[12:39] Rosie Perez: I mean, honestly, Seth and James asked me to be a part of it, and I said, I am I actually am running to another thing tonight, two other things tonight. But I was like, if you put me up at the front, I would love to be there. Um, I would love to help out, and it's such an important, beautiful, beautiful, very timely organization that um, yeah, I was I was like, I'll make it work. Booked and blessed!

[12:59] J. Harrison Ghee: Brother Yeah.

[13:01] Rosie Perez: So this organization um helps older youth get into foster care. It's now helped over 400 kids get adopted. Um, you know, it's scary for these children. The world is scary. There's so much, there's so much in the world that is dark and scary in these scary times. How many times can one person say scary in one interview?

[13:21] J. Harrison Ghee: Keep going.

[13:21] Rosie Perez: Is that's the other question? Um, how do you think art can be healing to these kids who are uncertain, to Americans who are uncertain of futures? Why do you think art can be a healing thing for us?

[13:35] Rosie Perez: Well, because it's an outlet, it's self-expression, it's showing you art will always show the beauty and the pain, you know, that's happening in the world. And I was talking to Anika Larson earlier in the dressing room as we were getting ready, and you know, she said a really beautiful thing that we just hadn't seen each other in a while. I was like, How are you? And it's like this time is so fraught and tumultuous, and we're really at odds with half of the country's very at odds with each other. And I think the only way we can go through life right now is with joy and find the silver linings. Um, and art is a huge, huge aid of finding silver linings. And I think it's just because otherwise the alternative is to like turn over and be defeated, and that's you literally can't do that.

So um I think it's always these times that art really flourishes and the most beautiful art is born. So I think you know, in the next four years, let's say, um uh hopefully a lot of uh beauty will come out of you know, this time, I hope.

[14:37] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah. Uh thank you for sharing that. Before we let you go enjoy this beautiful cocktail party, uh in one word, tell us why our listeners should check out You Gotta Believe.

[14:48] Rosie Perez: Um because I started to say it's so timely now, especially with p you know IVF and things uh produ um natural birth being endangered, it's like a really good time to look at all of these children that need homes and need love. And I don't have children, and I think we my husband and I have made the choice probably not to have children, but if we ever decide to change our minds, I think that that will absolutely um adoption will be a a very viable, viable option for us. And I think looking at um older children that need homes is a really beautiful, wonderful thing. Um yeah, yeah, it's such a wonderful organization.

[15:31] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah.

[15:31] Rosie Perez: Well, thank you so much for chatting with us. Enjoy the evening.

[15:34] J. Harrison Ghee: Pleasure.

[15:34] Rosie Perez: Thanks.

[15:35] Alex Temple Ward: Hello, hi, we're here.

[15:36] J. Harrison Ghee: I'm good, how are you?

[15:37] Alex Temple Ward: I'm doing very well, thank you. Amazing. So we are um survival jobs a podcast with the Broadway Podcast Network. A lot of people are just listening, so can you please introduce yourself?

[15:45] Alex Temple Ward: My name is Alex Temple Ward. I'm an actor, and I am very honored to be here tonight.

[15:49] J. Harrison Ghee: Is this your first time uh joining us at this organization?

[15:53] Alex Temple Ward: This is my first time, and it's uh so exciting. This is a really exciting evening.

[15:58] J. Harrison Ghee: Totally. What brought you here? How did you get involved? How did you figure out about You Gotta Believe?

[16:03] Alex Temple Ward: Seth and James specifically, they're dear friends of mine, and they are so inspiring because not only do they support the Broadway community, the arts communities, but everybody. They they look for causes that are near to their hearts, and they place that upon us and say, hey, come and do this thing. It's you're gonna get a lot out of it, and it's always the case.

[16:25] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah, it's such a great organization. It's such a beautiful time to be here celebrating the 10-year anniversary. This organization has helped 400 older youth become adopted. Um so yes, thank you, thank you for for being here. Um the world is scary right now. There's a lot always scary things happening. Why do you think art, you're an actor? So theater, movies, whatever the art form may be, how do you think art can help heal and give us hope?

[16:53] Alex Temple Ward: I think by offering different perspectives. Maybe you see a show or maybe you go see a movie. I think you know, uh TV, anything that's accessible. You see something that can maybe twist your perspective just a little bit. It's you don't want to slap people in the face with it necessarily, but maybe s see a story, witness a story that maybe gives you a little bit of empathy, maybe lets you see something in your life from somebody else's perspective. And I think that's what we're missing a lot of right now.

[17:24] J. Harrison Ghee: Thank you for sharing that. Before I let you go, enjoy this beautiful cocktail hour. Can you let our listeners know why they should check out You Gotta Believe and and how how they can maybe get involved if you know?

[17:35] Alex Temple Ward: Yes, I I mean uh first of all, live stream. I mean this won't we'll just go out like now. I don't know exactly when this is not the live stream. Tomorrow. Sorry, don't worry about the live stream. Um what was the question again? I'm so sorry.

[17:47] J. Harrison Ghee: Why should why should our listeners check out You Gotta Believe?

[17:50] Alex Temple Ward: Because i it is important now as we've talked about politically in this country in the world to preserve the safety of our most vulnerable human beings and I think that some of these kids all of these kids fall under that category. And I think that anything we can do to help is paramount.

[18:12] J. Harrison Ghee: Thank you for chatting with us. Enjoy your evening.

[18:14] Kate Reinders: Thanks so much.

[18:15] Alex Temple Ward: Hello hi we are a podcast network so a lot of people are just listening. Can you please introduce yourself to our listeners?

[18:20] Kate Reinders: Yes hi my name is Kate Reinders.

[18:23] Alex Temple Ward: Kate we're here at the 10-year anniversary gala of You Gotta Believe is this your first time at the gala?

[18:23] Kate Reinders: It is my first time at a gala and what brought you here tonight? How did you get involved? Tell me everything.

[18:33] Kate Reinders: Well I was invited by Seth Rosetz. Shout out Seth Rudeschy and Lisa Goldberg big shout out Lisa Goldberg and really all you have to do is say we're helping children and I want to come. It's such a beautiful organization. I've learned a lot about it the past few days myself prepping to be here tonight. And you know I feel like there's some mirroring with feelings these kids might be going through and you know maybe what we are maybe going through in the world right now of fear.

[19:01] J. Harrison Ghee: Right you are hello hello so my question is how do you think the arts, we're doing a lot of singing tonight, we're focusing a lot of the arts how do you think the arts can be healing and give hope to somebody who might be feeling a little hopeless?

[19:13] Kate Reinders: Oh well that's what arts are all about. It's about figuring out a way to communicate the deepest darkest or lightest parts of ourselves and um and also having a safe place with others to experience it.

[19:30] J. Harrison Ghee: For sure.

[19:31] Kate Reinders: Um, I don't mean to talk about the wicked movie, but I am here with the former Gullinda Glinda.

[19:35] J. Harrison Ghee: Oh, how are we feeling? Are we excited? Have you seen it? Can you give us some tea? Tell us everything.

[19:42] Kate Reinders: I am very, very excited. I have not seen it. I cannot wait to see it. I everything I have seen of it, I could not be more excited. It looks amazing. I was just saying all of Ariana's costumes. I can't even stand it.

[19:54] J. Harrison Ghee: I know.

[19:56] Kate Reinders: And I did walk by the little, you can get a box in Target that's just like a little Glinda costume with all the things. I kind of wanted to get it.

[20:04] J. Harrison Ghee: I was gonna say, did you get it?

[20:07] Kate Reinders: I might get it for myself for Christmas.

[20:09] J. Harrison Ghee: I think you need.

[20:10] Kate Reinders: There's anything wrong with that.

[20:11] J. Harrison Ghee: I think you do. Self-care, guys, self-care.

[20:13] Kate Reinders: I think you need to.

[20:14] J. Harrison Ghee: Well, thanks so much for chatting. Before I let you go enjoy this amazing cocktail party, and one word, can you let us know why you think our listeners should check out You Gotta Believe?

[20:25] Kate Reinders: Love.

[20:26] J. Harrison Ghee: Spread the love.

[20:27] Kate Reinders: Spread the love, people.

[20:29] J. Harrison Ghee: Hello.

[20:30] Anika Larson: Hi.

[20:31] J. Harrison Ghee: Hi. We're with the Broadway Podcast Network. A lot of people are owned.

[20:33] Anika Larson: Broadway podcast network.

[20:34] J. Harrison Ghee: Shout out, BP.

[20:35] Anika Larson: Oh, are you here?

[20:37] J. Harrison Ghee: Come on.

[20:38] Anika Larson: Those are my beeps.

[20:39] J. Harrison Ghee: Be a part of it, you know what I mean?

[20:40] Anika Larson: I and I am a part of it. I did it, I did a look. I talk about theater and sustainability, the Broadway vlog to save the planet on the Broadway Podcast Network. So I love Mason Broadway Podcast Network.

[20:52] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah.

[20:52] Anika Larson: So a lot of people are just listening. Can you introduce yourself so we know where we're chatting with?

[20:56] Anika Larson: Yes, I am Anika Larson.

[20:58] J. Harrison Ghee: Anika, this is a beautiful night. We're here at the 10-year anniversary of the You Gotta Believe organization. What brought you here tonight? And is it your first time being a part of this?

[21:06] Anika Larson: This is absolutely not my first time. I have done many of these concerts. I am one of nine children, six of my brothers and sisters are adopted. I had one foster sister at one point. So I very much understand the importance of and the beauty in uh different kinds of families and different kinds of ways of getting to family. Uh so no, you gotta believe is like there's nowhere I'd rather be tonight.

[21:28] J. Harrison Ghee: Oh, that's so beautiful. Thank you for being here to support this.

[21:32] Anika Larson: Um, you know, art is so healing, whether it be the scary world we're living in now, whether it be children who are unsure of where they're going to be placed. How do you think art and theater and community even can help heal and give us hope?

[21:47] Anika Larson: Uh there's nothing like music in particular to sort of be the bridge and to say the things that are articulate the feelings that we have in ways that just are not articulatable in other ways. Um I have two little boys now, and this morning I was explaining to them what I was gonna be going to do tonight, and I said, you know, when you guys get sick, at least half the time, I'm not sure what I should do. And who do I call? And they said grandma, and I said yes, and I am 50. Can you imagine what it would feel like when you were 18 to not have a parent to call to reach out to? And so this is why I gotta go. This is why I'm not I'm not gonna be here when you get home from school, and you guys can watch on the live stream. But I gotta sing for this. I've gotta, this is this is there's just sort of a few things that are as important this as this organization.

[22:36] J. Harrison Ghee: Well, thank you so much for chatting with us and sharing all that.

[22:40] Jenna Leigh Green: VPN veteran here.

[22:41] J. Harrison Ghee: What's up?

[22:42] Jenna Leigh Green: Yay!

[22:44] J. Harrison Ghee: Hello, we're here at the You Gotta Believe 10 year Anniversary gala. Can you please introduce yourself since a lot of people are just listening because we are a podcast?

[22:52] Jenna Leigh Green: Absolutely. I am Jenna Leigh Green.

[22:54] J. Harrison Ghee: Jenna, it's an honor to meet you. I'm a big fan. Is this your first time at the You Gotta Believe Gala?

[23:00] Jenna Leigh Green: This is my first time.

[23:01] J. Harrison Ghee: And what drew you to come out and support this organization?

[23:04] Jenna Leigh Green: Uh honestly, as soon as uh I heard what the organization is and and what it does, I couldn't think of something a better way to spend my Monday night. You know, these these kids are so wonderful, and hearing about the fact that this organization specifically focuses on the kids that are a little bit older and helping to place them with families because they need love just as much as the little ones do.

[23:28] Jenna Leigh Green: And you know, fun fact I learned tonight is that in the last 10 years, this organization has helped 400 children be adopted.

[23:35] J. Harrison Ghee: So how amazing.

[23:37] Jenna Leigh Green: We're just gonna do a little pivot. It's tight on here, people. Um so how amazing that this organization can do that. Um, you know, there's a lot of scary things in the world, like right now, in the climate of the world, even ties into with this organization a little bit, all these kids looking for homes. How do you think someone who's feeling scared or sad or losing hope can heal from the arts?

[24:03] Jenna Leigh Green: Oh my gosh. I mean, you know, I hear these stories, I'm sure that we've all heard the stories, but about how during the deep depression, the Great Depression, um vaudeville and live theater was an absolute safety net for people. I mean, it was possibly a bit more accessible, you know, cost cost wise, but um no matter what's going on in your life, if you get the opportunity to walk into a movie theater, uh a live theater, anything where uh the arts are happening and you get to just escape for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, two hours, like that is so unbelievably helpful to everyone.

[24:44] J. Harrison Ghee: For sure.

[24:44] Jenna Leigh Green: You know, we gotta love the arts and support it people. And not to talk about the Wicked movie, but I have to, because I'm here with a former Alphava, and it is Wicked Week. How are we feeling? Have you seen it? Are you excited?

[24:56] Jenna Leigh Green: I'm so excited. I'll be honest with you. I was invited to a screening that was tonight, and I am here instead. So I will see the screen. I think that's so beautiful. I will see the film with the rest of of the world.

[25:08] J. Harrison Ghee: Yeah.

[25:08] Jenna Leigh Green: Alright. Well, thank you so much for chatting with us. And before I let you go, and one word, can you let our listeners know why they should check out You Gotta Believe?

[25:16] Jenna Leigh Green: Uh Hope.