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[0:04] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, survivors. Welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast, a collaboration with Broadway World and the Broadway Podcast Network. My name is Jason A. Coombs, and this is my lovely co-host, Samantha Tuozzolo.

[0:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hey.

[0:16] Jason A. Coombs: And we're here at the Welcome to Times Square Studios again.

[0:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hey, good to be back in the studio.

[0:23] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, Samantha.

[0:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hey.

[0:25] Jason A. Coombs: We haven't seen Wicked yet.

[0:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh.

[0:27] Jason A. Coombs: We're good.

[0:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: We have not seen Wicked for Good yet. By the time this episode does come out, I hope the both of us have.

[0:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I'm going this Friday, but we're recording ahead of time.

[0:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[0:38] Jason A. Coombs: Um, but just from what I've seen, I'm like, gosh, it's another home run. And you know, I'm kind of I feel really like I'm a part of Wicked because I've been seeing it since I was 13.

[0:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I really I think I've said this on the show before. Like, I don't know if I'd be living the life I'm living now without having Wicked as a child. Because it like really informed my next years of my life.

[1:02] Jason A. Coombs: I got so obsessed, I was absolute psycho, like huge theater nerd kid.

[1:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right.

[1:07] Jason A. Coombs: And um, so I'm always like, they better not F it up, you know?

[1:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right.

[1:12] Jason A. Coombs: And it they just they just aren't just aren't F.

[1:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: I was talking to our friend Dr. Shannon. Shout out to Dr. Shannon.

[1:17] Jason A. Coombs: Shout out.

[1:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: He saw it last night and he was we were talking about today, and he was just saying how incredible it is and how the second one is sad. And I was like, well, yeah, from what I remember Wicked is so sad. When you actually think about it and take away the like, you know, fairy taleness of it all.

[1:34] Jason A. Coombs: It's fucked up.

[1:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Are you an Elphaba or are you a Glinda?

[1:37] Jason A. Coombs: I'm an Elphaba.

[1:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm an Elphaba. Why would you think I'm...

[1:39] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know. Or are you one of the other characters?

[1:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm well, okay. So as I grew up, I always wanted to be Nessarose because it was the only track I could sing.

[1:50] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[1:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Not because like that's what I felt most connected to, but that's the only one that I could sing.

[1:58] Jason A. Coombs: Gotcha.

[1:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Because I'm not singing any of the other roles. How about you?

[2:03] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, that's an interesting way of putting it of like roles. I don't think it'd be anybody, I guess. I think like you would maybe be like Boq.

[2:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: None too tall.

[2:13] Jason A. Coombs: Isn't that true?

[2:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, not like actual casting, right? But like I feel like you like feel like Boq to me.

[2:21] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, okay. Well, like he's just so nice.

[2:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh yeah. And like he's kind of shady though.

[2:27] Jason A. Coombs: He is. Well, I guess he like pretends to love Nessarose, but he actually loves Glinda.

[2:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, yeah, he is kind of shady. I was not calling you shady, by the way.

[2:36] Jason A. Coombs: No, no, no. By the way, if somebody's listening to this show and isn't Wicked, then that's crazy.

[2:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right. And if you haven't, I really don't mean to disrespect you.

[2:46] Jason A. Coombs: No, no, it's okay. But sometimes I feel like I'm an Elphaba at heart because of like I want to change the world, but you know, it's kind of hard.

[2:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: It is really hard.

[2:57] Jason A. Coombs: It's kind of hard.

[2:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, but anyway, I can't wait to watch it.

[3:00] Jason A. Coombs: I can't wait to watch it either. I'm gonna bring my tissues, and I bought a t-shirt. I'm gonna wear I got a Shiz University t-shirt I'm wearing it.

[3:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god, Jason, you're really committed to the bit.

[3:09] Jason A. Coombs: I had to. Um, let's talk about our guest today.

[3:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[3:13] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, so our guest today is critically acclaimed from the musical Romy and Michele, Jordan Kai Burnett.

[3:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Guys, I don't think we haven't had this much fun in an episode in a while.

[3:25] Jason A. Coombs: It's a fun one for sure.

[3:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Jordan is an absolute icon and also hysterical.

[3:32] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, we had a great time.

[3:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: The game, I can't wait for everybody to watch the game. Jason came up with a really fun game where I was playing for once, which is not the way this things usually go.

[3:43] Jason A. Coombs: So it was super fun.

[3:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy Thanksgiving.

[3:48] Jason A. Coombs: Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

[3:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy holidays. It's the holiday time.

[3:53] Jason A. Coombs: I'm thankful for you, Jason.

[3:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm thankful to Alan Seales. I'm thankful for the Broadway Podcast Network. And um, among many other things.

[4:01] Jason A. Coombs: Agreed. But in this space.

[4:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: I am not thankful for that Mariah Carey song. Please don't play that song until December.

[4:07] Jason A. Coombs: I was gonna be like, what are you talking about?

[4:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: You know that Mariah, you know the song. It's just I haven't heard it yet.

[4:13] Jason A. Coombs: Oh Jason, don't be a Scrooge.

[4:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: I just it's a good song. I still want to hear it on like Halloween, which when you start playing it usually.

[4:20] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. I can't.

[4:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: She likes defrost because her season and it is play that song 800 times a day until until New Year's. And I'm just like, y'all.

[4:27] Jason A. Coombs: Fine.

[4:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: I agree.

[4:30] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you. Alan, that was really fucking good of you.

[4:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sorry for saying the F word.

[4:38] Jason A. Coombs: I'm gonna quit.

[4:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[4:42] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, sorry. Please stop upsetting Jason. Everybody enjoy this episode. Please go see Romy and Michele. You only have a few more days left after this episode comes out. So run and get your tickets. It's so good. It's so fun. It's so funny. And Jordan is uncredible, incredible in it.

[4:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, something like that.

[5:01] Jason A. Coombs: Something like that. Bye. Happy Thanksgiving.

[5:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy Thanksgiving. Eat that turkey.

[5:06] Jason A. Coombs: Hi. Welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast, Jordan. We're so happy to have you.

[5:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm so happy to be here. I mean, can we just start off by saying your reviews from Romy and Michele is like drop the mic, iconic. So congratulations on that.

[5:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: What? An accomplishment.

[5:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, it feels cool. I mean, because it is. It's like cool. It's like elevated like however you elevate the word cool also as well. But it also just does feel like five-year-old cool. Like, you know, I'm pretty swept up in it right now.

[5:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: In a good way, not in like a gross way.

[5:41] Jason A. Coombs: I love it. I love that.

[5:44] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love it. So we just found out that we've had history together.

[5:47] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my gosh, we cannot name names.

[5:48] Jordan Kai Burnett: We're not gonna name any names, but we...

[5:48] Jason A. Coombs: Name them.

[5:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: Absolutely not. Name them. I can't be I can't be traced. This is uh it's too dangerous for me.

[5:56] Jason A. Coombs: But we were also talking about how Samantha and I started this podcast after going to college together, and we wanted to just be inspired, like we're looking for inspiration, and we really love connecting with people that we admire about their creative journeys, but we want to go back to the beginning. Did you have a memorable or favorite survival job that was, you know, before you were killing in these reviews and Romy and Michele?

[6:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh yeah. Yeah, share with us.

[6:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh boy. When I was 15, um, I started working at a I don't even know if it still exists, but it was a Mexican restaurant called Chevy's Fresh Mex.

[6:27] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[6:27] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, I think I've heard of that.

[6:29] Jason A. Coombs: It used to be one in Times Square. I used to go there often.

[6:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: It was right next to B.B. King's, which is one of our survival jobs.

[6:34] Jason A. Coombs: So I was working at the one in Arlington, Virginia when I was 15 years old. And what's important about this is that I didn't really have any frame of reference for like a job other than I had been like in theater and doing stuff, and I was like, you know, it's time to get into the workforce and blah blah blah.

[6:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: So anyway, I was the self-appointed takeout supervisor. Like I just decided one day that was what I was gonna do. And this story is not gonna age well, but uh they used to hand out these gigantic sombreros when it was your birthday, like really big.

[7:07] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, I know that.

[7:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like the size of half my body. And my really audacious 15-year-old self asked the manager, like, can I, after 9 p.m., just wear one of the sombreros as I greet customers coming into the restaurant? So, like this tiny little person in this like comically oversized sombrero, just learning how restaurants work.

[7:31] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[7:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: And that was my first like true survival job where I had to like fill out actual paperwork and not just like babysit or sell lemonade or whatever. Imagining like Speedy Gonzales.

[7:44] Jason A. Coombs: It's exactly what I looked like because I actually do identify as a mouse in this world.

[7:48] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, okay. And so it was like Speedy Gonzales meets the nanny in a giant sombrero.

[7:56] Jason A. Coombs: They used to have good chips there.

[7:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, El Machino made like 40 home fresh tortillas every moment every 60 seconds. That was the thing I had to say. This is El Machino.

[8:08] Jason A. Coombs: You guys, I'm sorry. That is what had a long three months.

[8:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: El Machino like didn't, I was like, who's El Machino? El Machino was the machine that made it out, cauliflower tortillas that I would present to the guests. This is El Machino. This is I couldn't write this. Do you know what I mean? This stuff comes at you fast. You can't write it.

[8:26] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[8:28] Jordan Kai Burnett: I mean, that's kind of I think that's our first Chevy's.

[8:30] Jason A. Coombs: I think so. Have you ever been there, Jason?

[8:32] Jordan Kai Burnett: I think I went there like once.

[8:34] Jason A. Coombs: I used to go there often.

[8:35] Jordan Kai Burnett: Twice, yeah.

[8:35] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I was on 42nd Street. There was one on 42nd Street, and it was vibey back then.

[8:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: It was really like colorful, and the food was pretty good. It was like pretty reasonable for a um corporate-run place, you know.

[8:49] Jason A. Coombs: Love that. Thank you for sharing.

[8:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh yeah. We love survival jobs.

[8:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: I hope that's I mean, we love hate them. No, but I hope that was like the right way to start this with a terrible sombrero story, which is just like Owie.

[9:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, but I'm picturing Speedy Gonzales and now Fran Drescher as a nanny. Like that's perfect.

[9:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[9:05] Jason A. Coombs: Fran Drescher just got a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

[9:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: You know what? Go for her.

[9:12] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my God. Okay, back on track. So I read that you consider yourself a local to New York, LA, and Vegas.

[9:19] Jordan Kai Burnett: I do.

[9:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yuck. I less Vegas now.

[9:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: So I was I'm curious to know if you feel like your artistry and like the art that you do differs depending on the city you're in.

[9:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh my gosh, can you imagine if I said no, it doesn't? And I was trying to do the same thing in New York that I did in Vegas. But like I'm doing 60 second monologues on the Vegas streams. Shakespeare on the Strip. Who wants it?

[9:41] Jason A. Coombs: Who wants it?

[9:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: No one. Actually, no, there is Shakespeare on the Strip. That's not fair. There are some actually like great actors in Vegas making, like doing Shakespeare. So I don't want to knock that. But for me, for my money, um, I spent most of my adult life in New York. My parents were working here when I was growing up in Virginia, so we were kind of like here and in DC my whole life. Then I went off to school and they moved here full time.

[10:08] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, so this has always been like the place I wanted to live and the place I've always lived, even when I've lived other places. Um, like in my heart, I've always been in New York. I lived in LA off and on for 10 years. I'll still go back for work. I think the things we do in LA in New York, I think LA gave me the freedom to kind of figure out who I actually was.

[10:29] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, I was a staged romanter kid, I was a 16 bars in a jewel-toned dress, like Emerson College singing the trolley song at my audition. Like I was that energy, which is not what it does now. But my time in LA informed, like, oh, I thought I was gonna be like I was saying before, I thought I was gonna be this like musical theater at one of the star schools, come to New York, start working on Broadway when I'm 20 years old. Like I thought that was gonna be my life.

[10:55] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[10:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: And Emerson gave me the chance to sort of not follow that path exactly. And I think because of that, I started to kind of create this weird career for myself where I've always paid my bills doing what I love, but it hasn't been the path I thought I was gonna be on.

[11:15] Jason A. Coombs: Sure.

[11:15] Jordan Kai Burnett: And I think LA gave me the kind of expansive world to be like, okay, maybe you're a little bit more like this or like this, that I'm not sure I would have figured out in New York. I think there's a lot of ru, especially when I was in school, there were a lot of rules. There were rules about like what's your type and I don't think that exists. I hope for art that it doesn't exist in the same way anymore because like what I'm doing now is so different than what I was doing then.

[11:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: And if I had followed all those rules, I wouldn't be here with like nose jewelry and like a bunch of hidden tattoos that are hidden from paint for my show tomorrow, you know. And and Vegas was its own experience because Vegas was the first like real commercial government job I ever had. No closing date, big check, big like lots of I mean, really lots of laughs and lots of dollars.

[12:08] Jason A. Coombs: Was that Magic Mike?

[12:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: That was Magic Mike.

[12:10] Jason A. Coombs: Wow.

[12:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: And it was wonderful. It was also like very gratifying as a comedian to do a job like Magic Mike because it is a strip show with a comedy host.

[12:24] Jason A. Coombs: So I was having a so fun.

[12:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, it was so fun.

[12:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: So I was having a very different experience, but I wasn't making anything. I was sitting in my house and going to my job. Uh, and that is something that it is exclusive to Vegas for me. And I actually left that job because I was like, I need to, I'm hungry. I need to make stuff. I need to be next to the fire of the culture of theater and all the things that come with it. I want to go to drinks with my friends after our shows. Like that life is such a special part of the theater community in New York for real. And I think the more that you're with your friends and the more your friend is like, oh, I was just reading this thing. You'd be great for it. And I'm the first person to be like, yeah, oh, my friend will be great in this.

Let me introduce, you know. I think that was something I was really missing in Vegas was the I have a great community of friends there, but the community that we build around our art and that our art builds kind of like around us that makes us stay in New York. Makes us be like, oh, this is the best worst city in the world, you know. For real, every day. I'm like, I love it and fucking absolutely hate every part of this. Yeah, I love it so much. And then I stepped in like old milk on the subway. Old milk. You know what I'm saying?

[13:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, you sure it was milk?

[13:45] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, I'm sure it was because there was a cup and I made sure. Okay, okay. Uh, and honestly, I didn't even step in it, but for the story I said step in it because I thought it would hit harder than looked at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did drop I did drop an entire cold brew on the train three weeks ago.

[13:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, that was you then.

[14:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah. Oh yeah. Spilling a milk everywhere. My old milk.

[14:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, well, it's your old oat milk then.

[14:04] Jordan Kai Burnett: Fine. Almond.

[14:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, work, okay.

[14:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm an oat milk girly. Yeah, I'm yeah, I feel like during shows, like when I'm running a show, I'm an oat milk kind of guy, but then when I'm not doing a show, I'm like, just throw it. Like, I want whole milk in it. I want a half and half on foamed. Oh, yeah. I basically want a milkshake, but hot. I'm so sorry. I just thought about. Have you guys seen this Tyra Banks thing that she's selling hot ice cream?

[14:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: No.

[14:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. This is crazy.

[14:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: What is hot ice cream?

[14:34] Jordan Kai Burnett: She opened an ice cream shop in Australia called Smise. And they have all these different ice creams. My best friend Nikki and I were just talking about it. Shout out to Nikki Classpell who told me about this. And uh it's called Smise, and Tyra Banks sells ice cream, but then she also sells this thing called hot ice cream, which is basically it's not hot chocolate because it's basically melted ice cream that's warm. And I can't. She's like, hot ice cream, hot ice cream, hot ice cream, but that doesn't make any sense. You know, it's not ice cream if it's hot. But it in her mind, I'm I didn't make these rules. Sorry. But I can tell you that if you have three to four minutes to disassociate, I cannot suggest going on Instagram enough and looking at the SMI's ice cream parlor shop because we went down a rabbit hole. This is a good way. If anyone's listening from Australia, maybe you can go get a survival cut there.

[15:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, 100%. Or just try the the, I think it's called a hot mama is the is the hot ice cream flavor.

[15:33] Jordan Kai Burnett: I've gotta know. I'm curious now. Why Alan perked up when you said hot mama?

[15:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: Is that your vibe?

[15:40] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yes. Good for you.

[15:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: At this age in my life.

[15:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: Good for you. Good for you. Okay. Good for you. Good for you. Let's our patty, our podcast.

[15:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. Uh let's talk Romy and Michele.

[15:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: Can we talk? Please.

[15:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh. We are so excited to talk about the show. This is such an iconic movie that everyone, everyone loves. I remember like I have a memory of watching this on my dad had a black box when I was a kid. You know what the black that like you get like pay-per-view channels for free. And I remember watching this movie all the time in my dad's office.

[16:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: Isn't that illegal?

[16:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[16:13] Jordan Kai Burnett: I think it was like 30 years ago. So I think we're clear.

[16:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: By the way, I had one in like 2016.

[16:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: What?

[16:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: I used to watch This Is Us on it like the same night it came out.

[16:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm sorry, R A D D and by R A D. You're talking about a sling label today.

[16:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're talking about a sling box.

[16:27] Jordan Kai Burnett: I don't know. I'm telling you.

[16:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, thank you. You're talking about a sling box.

[16:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: I know I know all of what's happening. But I because I also have done that and that. The black gestures to both.

[16:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. Well, anyway, I went off topic, but that's like one of my core memories of being a kid watching that movie at my dad's house. But um, how did you prepare for your role in this film and um in this musical? And did you watch the film a lot as a reference point?

[16:48] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, well, first of all, here's what's crazy. I've been doing the show for 10 years. Right. It's been 10 years.

[16:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I saw your jaw hit the table.

[16:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: Ten years, like I mean, I know that shows processes are crazy. Process is a word. It's cuckoo. It's a long time, but 10 years is long. Well, I guess we have the pandemic to blame, also. Sorry. Yes, that's absolutely true. Um yeah, that's absolutely correct. But that being said, I started doing this in a uh we did a reading of it in this club that no longer exists in Los Angeles called Rockwell, which was like the place where all the theater actors went to get their theater fix fix. Yeah. Did great shows. It's where Titanic started. I think it's where Titanic was um conceptualized. It's where the Cruel Intentions musical started. Oh yeah. Um, and we we started it there as a workshop, and um back then, I was all I had already been a super fan.

There were like a couple things that as a kid I was like, someday I'll do a musical of. And one of them in my mind was this. You know, like I always wanted to play Ty in Clueless. I always wanted to play You are Ty, I can see that. It's like anyone hello? Hello, anybody want to play? I mean that is perfect. Yeah. And then you say you're a virgin that can't drive. Oh yeah. Yeah, I am. I am a virgin. You're a virgin who can't drive. Um booked it. And I also always wanted like I always wanted uh Drop Dead Gorgeous to be a musical so I could play Brittany Murphy. It was it was a Britney Murphy thing. But then like when I saw Romy and Michele when I was a child, I was like, who is that? That's for me.

Right. Like that cranky New Yorker in a in a in this situation is me. And um, and so I I knew the movie back and forth. And so when Kristen Hangey reached out through a friend of mine, uh, my friend, I'm gonna give her a shout because I really get to, but Carissa Hoagland said, Kristen, you should ask my friend Jordan. She'd be a perfect Heather. And Kristen emailed me and she said, Do you mind going to Robin Schiff's house to read? And Robin is the woman who wrote the movie. Wow. Um, Romy and Michele, and she did subsequently write the book of the musical. And so I went to her house and like read the scenes with her. And she was like, Yeah, I think this, I think this will be okay. Um and here we are 10 years later, and I'm really grateful because I love playing Heather, and in this iteration, I'm also playing a mean cheerleader called Cheryl. And I play like a it feels like an SNL episode for me.

[19:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: How fun.

[19:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's so fun. Um, and I love I love the people in this version and all of the versions we've done prior. Yeah. And I I just love doing this show. So it's been uh 10 years to get here, but I'm really grateful that it feels like the this is like I'm back in New York. Ah, I love it. You can't miss it. I'm here. And by the way, like, isn't that what being an artist is about? Is like having fun and like really loving something. When you're like 10 years, so who cares if it's 10 years? I'm having so much fun.

[19:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, I'm having such a good time. And also, like if I'm not working at a nine to five making a gazillion dollars, I better be having a really good time doing something else. Or working in a nine to five making not a gazillion dollars, being having no time in no life, you know.

[19:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, that too. So let's all have fun.

[19:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. So what what's been the most it's probably gonna be hard to pinpoint, but what's like the most fun part of the show, like while you're on stage, like what scene, what what song, like what is the part of the show that brings you the most joy?

[20:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh that is hard. I mean, okay, I am gonna give this in a various amount of answers. Thank you. Thank you, because I there. I have a I have a big song in Act One that I've been singing for 10 years. I love singing it every time. Yeah, every time I do it, I'm like, wow, I love this. I this is my job, and I have such a good time doing it, and I feel it in my body, like muscle memory, you know. Like I feel it so deeply in my body that it's really fun. But I have to say, there is something about I have made incredible friends on this show. Um incredible friends, and um being on stage with them is such a good time. This cast is so fun to be on stage with. Um but when you can share uh a laugh or try to break Laura Bell Bundy, it does feel like like before Jordan is living a fantasy.

You know, like if Elle Woods thinks it's funny, I think it's funny. And I have told her that many times. And she's so down and she's so ready for a great time. Yeah. And sometimes just being on stage with her and waiting for one of us to get the other one is it's like I cannot tell you what a gift it is. And it's like it is like that with everyone. Like everybody on stage is ready to play. And I think that it's not one specific moment other, you know. But I do think that the experience in a show like this is it's a comedy, the audience is a big part of it. Whatever's gonna happen tonight is gonna happen tonight. It's not gonna happen tomorrow.

[21:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[21:46] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love that. Such a silly time. Let's just go. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

[21:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, in a show like this.

[21:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: Right. You're not gonna. Sorry, I got in trouble. You're not gonna like feel that and like.

[21:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Why did you get in trouble?

[21:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: Alan told me I wasn't close enough to the mic.

[22:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm sure they have a great time at Hamilton. But by the time you get to like it's quiet uptown, you better pull it together. Do you know what I'm saying?

[22:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like, by the time you get to I invented post-its, I'm actually going further. Do you know what I mean? I am going f way past where I started.

[22:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Fun.

[22:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's so fun. That's incredible. So if people are on the fence about coming, if like fans are like, oh, I'm a show, I'm a loyalist of the movie. Knock it off. Yes. Like we have only a limited time now to come.

[22:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[22:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: Tell us, tell us, because people need to hear the date and they need to get their asses over. We are closing November 30th.

[22:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay.

[22:36] Jordan Kai Burnett: Which is way too soon, in my very humble opinion, and nobody asked me. Um but it's hard to make a musical right now. Making art is hard and it's expensive. And our producers have tried forever to make it here and now to keep us open. And I think it's a bummer. But but I would feel terrible for someone that was on the December 1st side of this chat who didn't get to see our show. I think you should come see our show. We have weird shows. We have like a 7 p.m. on Thursday, and okay, 8 p.m. Friday is not that weird. And then we have a two Saturday and two Sundays. We have a Sunday night show, which is really good for if you're in the biz. Great. And then we have eight shows next week. You know, it's holiday schedule.

So you have a lot of opportunities to see it, and you'll be really sad if you miss it. Because the audiences are on their feet. They are laughing. They every person I know who I respect. Yeah. You know, I'm like, okay, so be honest. What are you gonna tell? I always say, like, what are you gonna tell your friends at work tomorrow? I don't want to know what you want to say to my face. I want to know what you're gonna tell your friends at work tomorrow. Are you gonna go like this? And every person is like, we had the best time. We had the best time. This cast is so sensational, and it's so much fun. So just buy a ticket and stop complaining.

[23:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: I agree.

[23:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: I agree. So we talked a little bit about your amazing reviews in this, but I want to talk a little bit about reviews and social media, trend bullshit, and like people who are like home on their couch eating a bag of Doritos, giving opinions about things that they know nothing about. Owie so I guess my question, I guess the question is like, how do you navigate the noise, good and bad, and focus on the work?

[24:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: Ooh, what a good question. You know, I think I let myself get swept up in the good stuff because it feels nice. Of course. Um and I don't take it too seriously. Like it's that title of show thing where if one idiot on the subway tells you you're the worst, it hits harder than a thousand people telling you that you're great. So I think there's room to let a thousand people tell you that you're great.

[24:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[24:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh that is not the lyric. I would like to say very clearly, I'm so sorry to the lyric team at Title of Show. I really botched that one. Um bring back title of show. I am ready. You should do that. I am ready. Hello, producer.

[24:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: I can play. I am ready. She's ready. I'm your Susan, and I can't wait. I have a list of Heidi's for you. I have a list of them. We have two, we have two roles ready for you, Jordan. We just need the producers for some money. Well, you know. Alan. Alan Alan. Alan's put on his producer hat, so hopefully he has. He put on his producer hat and he said, Jordan, I'm so sorry your show's calling early. What can we produce for you? And I said, Alan, anything that will keep me staying working in New York because I love working at home, it's my favorite thing. But anyway, as far as the noise goes, I think sometimes I'll read comments because people are insane. And what I like to try to do is I either not engage or which is hard.

[25:40] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[25:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: It is hard. It's really hard. But also I like to come back with like a nice thing, like a nice guy thing. Um so somebody on said something like, Oh yeah, all I heard was that it was terrible. Because look, reviews are rough for real. And I I don't, and I know that there are some shows that have gotten great reviews that are really not that great. And one of my favorite shows of last year closed early because the reviews weren't great. And I will be no. I never saw that. I'm sure it was great though. She's a notebook early.

[26:11] Jason A. Coombs: So you're a notebook stand.

[26:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah. I am a boop and a limpeka stan. Both excellent. Right. Excellent shows. I'm hello, you guys. If you missed it, that is so sad for you. I saw both of those two or three times because I loved them. And the reviews, you know, that is a person's job to review stuff. For real. And I get it. And that somebody is paying you to do it, and I hear it. But I do think that there is merit in like, well, just come see what the audience thinks. Because the other thing is the people who don't see the show, or the people who come to hate stuff, are the ones that go online. And that is oui in my heart. Because I'm like, I just am a small guy. I am a five-year-old person performing the barricade scene of Les Miz in my dad's trench coat leaned up against my couch, singing Don't You Fret, Monsieur Mary's.

[27:01] Jason A. Coombs: I don't feel any panic with a little fall of rain.

[27:03] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's who you're yelling at. I've been working my whole life to sing on stage because I'm psychotic. So the idea that you're gonna go online and be like, whoa, I heard terrible things about this hilarious musical that's not that deep, but it's actually about female friendship. It's like, you know, people didn't like Wicked. Sorry, remember? Read those reviews, guys. That's crazy. Anyway, I had somebody say something that was like, I saw every review and it looks terrible. No loss uh here. And I responded with, come see for yourself. We're great. Right. You know, we're a great time. Because like I don't want to, I could start with them and be like, well, actually.

[27:40] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[27:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: But I don't have the energy for that. I want to just like everybody is mean and tired right now. Right. So, like, we all are upset at home. Put it on your close friends, babe. But also with just I love that. We all we need joy. We need we need joy. We're living through this time where things are kind of shaky. Well, that's what I mean. It's like we have a common enemy.

[28:06] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[28:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: For Roman. And it's not Romy and Michelle the musical, you guys. Absolutely not. It's not. So, like, take your time and get people to sign a thing that's important for Earth and for you know babies and for people who need snap. Waste waste your time tick tick ticking on your warrior keyboard for that. Please don't, because it's not a waste of time. Right. But if you want, you want to do is go online and say, like, oh, well, this was like too much like the movie. Or actually, it was not enough like the movie. Like, bro, I we're gonna win her. We're gonna lose no matter what. So just come have a good time for two hours at a musical and watch El El Woods, Laura Bell Bundy and Carolindsey work their ass off.

[28:51] Jason A. Coombs: And then watch the other eight people in the ensemble make you think it's an ensemble of 40 people.

[28:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm sorry. Guys, you have a good time. By the time this comes out, they have a few days to go. Okay, we're gonna put it out soon. Run, run, run. We're gonna put this out soon, you guys. We are put it in the title.

[29:06] Jason A. Coombs: Well, before you listen, go see Romey on November 30th.

[29:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: Is the title of this episode?

[29:12] Jason A. Coombs: For real.

[29:13] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's amazing. El Woods. I can't help myself. You know what? I love her. We need a revival of that.

[29:21] Jason A. Coombs: She is.

[29:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm not ready for a revival of it.

[29:24] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[29:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: I mean, I love it so much. I love it. I love it so much. I love it so much. But also, like, uh something happened, and I was not feeling well, and Laura Belt came in to check on me, and she said she was gonna say, Hey, you know, I'm gonna go home early and see my son tonight, and that's really great. And she said, You know what's going on tonight? And before I could let her say, I'm gonna go home and see my son, I said, Courtney, take your break. And that to me is friendship.

[29:50] Jason A. Coombs: Like, I can't help myself.

[29:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: And she is such a down. I don't, I don't know what I'm allowed to say on.

[29:57] Jason A. Coombs: You can say whatever.

[29:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: She's like a homie. She's hilarious. She's a down home bitch. Everyone in this cast is down home bitch. I love that. She's just like everybody in the cast is just like, let's hang out.

[30:11] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[30:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: I want to hang out with everyone. It's so fun. But also I do love Legally Blonde. I used to drink um vodka from water bottles as a teenager and take the train in from Connecticut and go see Legal Blonde.

[30:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, because I loved it so much.

[30:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, correct. So can TV do more of those? Like that was that opened up like Well, okay, hang on.

[30:26] Jason A. Coombs: I do know that maybe we don't need to do more reality shows because I think put in my name up on that list.

[30:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: Sorry, I'm seeing it though. Like I as a kid who didn't. But I also know that like there are some really excellent people on that show who did get absolute recognition, but maybe like for their baby hearts and for my friends who are on that show. I'm like, hey, I wish they could have just thrived without being on a reality show.

[30:44] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[30:48] Jordan Kai Burnett: And and also I would love for MTV to make more like films of Broadway Shadows.

[30:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that's what I meant.

[30:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: Because that's how I was introduced to it. And like PBS great performances, but for Heathers and Romeo and Michelle and Legally Blonde and Right. We need that.

[31:05] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, big.

[31:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: I agree with that. Love it. Well, as we know, you're a creator, you're a phenomenal actor, comedian. The list goes on and on and on.

[31:14] Jason A. Coombs: That's so nice.

[31:15] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yes, girl. We're gonna stay we're gonna stand.

[31:17] Jason A. Coombs: No, I love that for me. It sounds nice when you say it.

[31:19] Jordan Kai Burnett: I just feel like tired and wonder if I'm ever gonna work again all the time. Do you know what I mean?

[31:23] Jason A. Coombs: I don't think you have a problem.

[31:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: I do that's really nice. I appreciate that. I think there's just like that's part of this, is like let's not pretend that we're not all afraid all the time.

[31:31] Jason A. Coombs: Every day.

[31:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like Marisha Wallace, is that her name?

[31:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[31:34] Jordan Kai Burnett: She just posted this thing after cabaret that she saw that. You saw that. She was like, uh, people talk about this, and it's like her going into the theater doing cabaret, and it's like, but they don't talk about this enough, and it's her after cabaret just like sitting in her house.

[31:46] Jason A. Coombs: Like the come down.

[31:48] Jordan Kai Burnett: What am I gonna do next? Right. My whole year has been built around this thing that my whole year, my whole life.

[31:53] Jason A. Coombs: You're like at the top.

[31:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: Stop asking me to make plans because I don't know what my plans are.

[31:58] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[31:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: I don't know. I want to so much know, but I don't.

[32:04] Jason A. Coombs: That's it.

[32:05] Jordan Kai Burnett: You know about that.

[32:06] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[32:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: But I was gonna ask you, did you have a favorite besides Romeo?

[32:10] Jason A. Coombs: I'm sorry, Romeo.

[32:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh my god. Romeo Michelle.

[32:13] Jason A. Coombs: Romeo Meo Meo.

[32:14] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's a cat musical.

[32:16] Jason A. Coombs: Romeo Mio.

[32:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um do you have a favorite artistic experience that you want to share with us? And and something you learned from that experience?

[32:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, yeah, I bet I do. I know that's a weird question.

[32:27] Jason A. Coombs: No, it's this is fun.

[32:29] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um do I have an artistic experience? Any kind of artistic experience? Wow. What have some other answers been? When people ask this.

[32:36] Jason A. Coombs: I think this is.

[32:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, this is for me. I think this is new in the rotation.

[32:41] Jason A. Coombs: Work.

[32:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Uh uh. Well, I guess. Um, you know.

[32:49] Jason A. Coombs: Wait, let me think about it for a second.

[32:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: This is such a good question. Alan, can you play legally blonde while we wait?

[32:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[32:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: Or candy from Candy Store from Heather's is also great.

[32:59] Jason A. Coombs: Oh.

[33:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, they cued up.

[33:03] Jason A. Coombs: It's not legally blonde at all.

[33:05] Jordan Kai Burnett: I was wondering what the all right.

[33:08] Jason A. Coombs: Well, that was upsetting to say.

[33:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: Just some like horn middy. Like I was really excited to like break into song.

[33:15] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, he he didn't want that for us.

[33:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: No. Um, you know, I think I think I'm too late. I think we have the answer.

[33:22] Jason A. Coombs: You should probably cue it up for the next time.

[33:23] Jordan Kai Burnett: I have to think about something.

[33:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[33:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: But we don't the answer now, so well, you know, I I'm drawn to like actually I'm drawn to a couple of things because this I was in a band for a minute.

[33:35] Jason A. Coombs: Great.

[33:36] Jordan Kai Burnett: And it was How cool is that? I was so cool. It was really cool. There's no other way to explain it. I was like in a sexy rock and roll band. I was and we were great.

[33:48] Jason A. Coombs: Uh we don't exist anymore.

[33:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: For a lot of reasons. Uh winks and says, Do you guys know about Fleetwood Mac?

[33:56] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[33:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: Bumbo. Oh, I'm putting both headphones on for this. Can you put it up? Can you crank it up?

[34:04] Jason A. Coombs: Is it weird?

[34:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: Dear Al the Lappy. I'm like gonna cry. I got tears coming out of my nose.

[34:15] Jason A. Coombs: Mad Pops!

[34:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: Perfect match because you both have some great.

[34:25] Jason A. Coombs: So good.

[34:26] Jordan Kai Burnett: Dear L Honey Mazzle. It's so good. Honey Mazzle Top. Yeah, I always wanted to be her. But I don't know that I am anymore. Thank you so much for that ADB moment. I apologize for the way I am today.

[34:37] Jason A. Coombs: No, you don't have to.

[34:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: This is not how you are all the time.

[34:39] Jason A. Coombs: I'm not really interested.

[34:40] Jordan Kai Burnett: So sometimes it doesn't hit like this and sometimes it does. Great. I love that. So I was in a band for a while and I learned a lot about it. I learned a lot about myself. I learned a lot about like what I want to do and what it takes and what's important.

[34:56] Jason A. Coombs: Um was it original music?

[34:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: Or was it like a cover?

[34:59] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[35:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: It was original music.

[35:01] Jason A. Coombs: Wow. Love that.

[35:02] Jordan Kai Burnett: It was really cool. I miss it. And also uh uh so anyway, um.

[35:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: I also have this thought about in 2000 fifteen, in the beginning of 2015, I was going through like a very intense breakup and whip blah blah and yep, like just the life was doing a life flip. And I was casting this musical in like the same place where I started Romy called at the time it was called Love is a Battlefield.

[35:29] Jason A. Coombs: Oh wow.

[35:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: And it was Romeo and Juliet with Pat Benatar music. Oh wow. And something about that experience, I met like I knew my my friend Nikki at the time, but we weren't best friends yet. And in that time she kind of scooped me up and like was my caretaker in this crazy time. And and I also started figuring out stuff about myself, like, oh, maybe I'm not just this like musical theater girly.

[35:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[35:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: Maybe there is something to not to be like I'm queer, but like look at me. And I think I was like, maybe there's something to like who I am inside that actually is part of who I am outside.

[36:10] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[36:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: And all of these things started rolling together. And then there was this idea that maybe the character I was playing with swing Benvollio would have like, I'd always wanted to shave my head. So I did, which in musical theater felt like crazy.

[36:27] Jason A. Coombs: Sure.

[36:27] Jordan Kai Burnett: You know, because I'm still going in for like the National Tour of Fiddler, so I'm having like flip my hair and can't see this side side has stars in it and stuff. But all of a sudden, I walk into rehearsal and with my head side of my whole side of my head shaved, and I felt like a different person. And I think that moment, I remember being in the studio and singing this Pat Benatar lyric, and and feeling like something's different. Something feels different. This freedom, it's not about shaving my head, it's about the fact that I've spent my whole life listening to the rules that I was given in musical theater. These are the rules. You can't shave your head, you can't have tattoos, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't.

[37:06] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[37:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: And then I was like, okay, well, why if I had the like what if I actually just did the things that aren't like for me, and maybe they will help the work.

[37:16] Jason A. Coombs: Right.

[37:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: And it really did, because like after that, I did that show, then I booked Romy, and then the subsequently the Pat Benatar musical still exists.

[37:26] Jordan Kai Burnett: We're still working on it. And we're still working on Romy. And I also just started seeing myself differently. Yeah. And being like, oh, I've always had this person inside me, but I always felt like if I let anyone think I was anything but a musical theater psychotic person, then they will take my spot. Because that's what you're taught. And so when I was 22 years old, I was in the room being four in the morning, signing up for, you know, I was one of those people. Right. And I think like the moment where I was like, okay, wait, I can actually like unlock the thing and like let it breathe, let the demon out a little bit, has just kind of shaped who I am as an artist. That was such a good answer that I didn't even know I had.

[38:11] Jason A. Coombs: Alan Play.

[38:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: Alan did you do that?

[38:14] Jason A. Coombs: That's the thing of magic mic.

[38:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: That is like magic mic triggers.

[38:18] Jason A. Coombs: Is that triggering?

[38:19] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, yeah, big time.

[38:19] Jason A. Coombs: But you can play it again.

[38:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: I asked you not to trigger our guests.

[38:24] Jason A. Coombs: To be honest, I can take it. I'm of the age crap that can take it.

[38:28] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm glad. I'm glad to hear it. That's fine. You're so funny and so iconic. Congratulations on everything.

[38:33] Jordan Kai Burnett: Thanks. We're winding down.

[38:35] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, we did it?

[38:36] Jordan Kai Burnett: Isn't that sad? That's crazy. You're not gonna ask me about any of my other survival jobs.

[38:39] Jason A. Coombs: Oh.

[38:40] Jordan Kai Burnett: Well, I was gonna I'm asking another survival jobs question right now.

[38:42] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, you can't.

[38:43] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, let's put it you can edit that out.

[38:44] Jason A. Coombs: So we can leave it in because this is real.

[38:46] Jordan Kai Burnett: Right. Guys, it's real. We're real. I just got I just went through my brain this morning to remember the things I've done. Tell us another one.

[38:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, no, ask your question.

[38:54] Jason A. Coombs: Well, tell us and then I'll ask the question.

[38:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: Someone just ask a question.

[38:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: I used to be an assistant for this person.

[39:02] Jason A. Coombs: Oh no.

[39:02] Jordan Kai Burnett: And she had a company called Glam Cats.

[39:05] Jason A. Coombs: Cats?

[39:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like C-A-T-S-Z, obviously. And they were like Barbies, but they were cats. They were all different, like shopper cat.

[39:20] Jason A. Coombs: All of the and it was that she sold?

[39:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: That she was a business.

[39:24] Jason A. Coombs: What do you mean but that she sold?

[39:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: I was her assistant. I was doing books. I was going to the post office.

[39:29] Jason A. Coombs: Like um dolls.

[39:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like Barbie. Like Barbie dolls, but they were cats.

[39:33] Jason A. Coombs: So it's like cats the musical.

[39:35] Jordan Kai Burnett: It was like the jellico ball.

[39:36] Jason A. Coombs: More than cats.

[39:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: Alan Q cats.

[39:39] Jason A. Coombs: No, cue up the heavyside lair.

[39:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's my bop right now. I like to run around my dressing room and just my tights and my bra and my socks dancing to heavyside lair.

[39:48] Jason A. Coombs: Yes. Um glamps.

[39:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: I will. I have it.

[39:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: This you're telling me this isn't a bop?

[40:01] Jason A. Coombs: I'm not sure that I know it.

[40:02] Jordan Kai Burnett: This is Jay, you said you don't know this.

[40:09] Jason A. Coombs: I said that.

[40:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: I agree.

[40:11] Jason A. Coombs: Jay agrees.

[40:13] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh a bad musical theater.

[40:14] Jason A. Coombs: Is this from Cats?

[40:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: I gotta go.

[40:17] Jason A. Coombs: Is this from Cats?

[40:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: I never got into cats.

[40:20] Jason A. Coombs: You don't I'm not into cats either. But I'm into Heavyside Lair.

[40:23] Jordan Kai Burnett: I saw the movie. Guys, I'm a really good musical theater. You guys are being wild right now.

[40:26] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, I need you to go to Jalico Ball. It's the only production of cats you ever need to see. It's coming back, right?

[40:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's stunning. It's gonna be on in the spring. I thought I was gonna rip the grate out of the ground. I was so hyped.

[40:35] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. I want to apologize.

[40:36] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah.

[40:37] Jason A. Coombs: Well, that's good for me.

[40:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, I also really do want to send my biggest apologies.

[40:43] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[40:43] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, I accept snacks and not flowers. Um then I also was looking at me with disgust, Alan.

[40:49] Jason A. Coombs: Alan, judgy.

[40:51] Jordan Kai Burnett: Did you not hear me belt out legally blonde, but you didn't know one of those lyrics?

[40:54] Jason A. Coombs: Touche.

[40:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: Thank you. I'm curious what kind of musical theater Alan is into, but we can talk about that later. Goodbye, Alan. Leave. I'll run the audio.

[41:01] Jason A. Coombs: Um what's her name on Frasier?

[41:08] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh no clue.

[41:10] Jason A. Coombs: Never watched it.

[41:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: But I do know Kelsey Grammar was on it.

[41:13] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Okay, so she made it. She did glam cats with the Z and sold them like where?

[41:19] Jordan Kai Burnett: Like in Toys of R Us or like on the streets of New York.

[41:21] Jason A. Coombs: No, like I think it was like I think it was like she had a not a shop, but she had them in like boutiques around New York.

[41:27] Jordan Kai Burnett: This episode's 100% gonna get called glam cat.

[41:30] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Well, glam cats go see Romeo and Michelle before November 30th.

[41:34] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm gonna need to. They'll be hyping in there. Yeah. And November 30th. I also read that. Carly, because Kylie Sacklove, who was a guest a few weeks ago, love a wonderful old friend of mine. And I think we may have had a crossover, uh, survival job crossover.

[41:49] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, no, not with kitty.

[41:50] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, yeah. No, don't mean.

[41:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: So I was when I moved to Los Angeles, uh, I was a party princess.

[41:58] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god.

[41:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: Which meant that I was any number of things. Okay. Sometimes I was Dora the Explorer.

[42:04] Jason A. Coombs: Some you have to say it like that, because that's how it rhymes.

[42:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Um, sometimes I was aerial. Great. And sometimes I was in a full Hello Kitty mascot outfit.

[42:14] Jason A. Coombs: Why?

[42:14] Jordan Kai Burnett: In the San Fernando Valley in 110 degrees. And I'm gonna tell you that I was absolutely smoking weed before I put that hat.

[42:25] Jason A. Coombs: I if you did anything other than that, I would judge you.

[42:30] Jordan Kai Burnett: There was also no place to change. Like there were like often these parties, especially in the valley, especially for rich rich people in the valley, they'd either be in these like beautiful parks, no place to change, or they'd be in their homes where they'd be like, We'd rather you not change in here. And I'd be like, cool. Why? Because I'm a peasant. I am, but like rude. Um so often I would have to like hotbox my car, not even with smoke, just with my own body.

[42:55] Jason A. Coombs: Oh like car on, trying to put a Hello Kitty costume on, and they there were all these rules about you can't put the mask on on in front of the kids. Right, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like Tell the that tell that to Elmo in Times Square. Hell no, honey, Spider-Man, who knows? It's everybody's friend.

[43:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: For real. I just have this image of like, I'm gonna do it this way, of being like in my Prius, my tiny Prius that was also my house. Like, I had everything. Any audition I had coming, it was in my car. Yeah. It was a rat's nest. Anyway, sitting in my little Prius, putting on, putting trying to get the stockings.

[43:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: Hello Kitty costume. Oh, stockings. No, mine was like a full body. And then the hat. Stockings. Like, Jason, how fucking dare you? How dare you? It was like full fur. It was like a full fur thing. You could do this, you do this. You couldn't do much else. And you'd have to play games with these children, and then you have to put the hat on your head, and then you go back into the gar, change into your clown costume.

[43:53] Jason A. Coombs: Oh no.

[43:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: And so you could face paint. By that time, I was like, so you can face paint. Oh yeah. I'd be like, yeah, I will take a Doritos. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, thanks, birthday boys, mom. I will have a slice of whatever you're cutting.

[44:13] Jason A. Coombs: Now, did you ever pass out like Carly did?

[44:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, no, no, no, no. Fully pass out. Yeah, no, no, no, sorry, Carly. Sorry, Carly Love. But I I will say that like one time I was I didn't mean to say you lose. I was not. She actually is the winner, and the winner takes it all. Um the thing about I do remember them today. Them giving me like a very ill-fitting little mermaid costume once.

[44:38] Jason A. Coombs: Oh no.

[44:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: And I was uh let's say I was just like a I was a bigger person then. So the costume was very revealing. Okay. And we got a complaint. Oh. Because they were like, well, why does the little mermaid dress like that? And I was like, Stacy, you gave me this costume, and I put it on. Right. And she was like, Yeah, but it shouldn't have been. I was like, shouldn't have been what? A shell bra in a 32A on on this.

[45:06] Jason A. Coombs: I'm a 32A as well.

[45:08] Jordan Kai Burnett: Are you?

[45:08] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[45:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: Are you actually?

[45:09] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, I have no boobs.

[45:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: I am not a 32A, bro.

[45:13] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Sorry.

[45:13] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's what I'm trying. That's actually the gag. Okay. I was so excited because I really don't mean anybody else with my brass. Well, and I remain part of the other side of history. But like I'm so happy. I so well, my bra was a 32A that day. Okay. But I was pushing like a I was pushing probably like a 34 double D. Oh. So of course, of course, the five-year-old's dad was like, when I walked in as the little mermaid in my tight little fish outfit, like could barely walk. And the thing is, like, yeah, so I never passed out, but like I wish I had in that moment. I wish I'd been carried off in a gurney to anywhere but that guy's house. For real.

[45:53] Jason A. Coombs: I think this is an excellent transition into the question I have.

[45:57] Jordan Kai Burnett: Great. Go ahead.

[45:58] Jason A. Coombs: Um for anybody who's maybe feeling stuck in a survival job. What's your advice to them?

[46:03] Jordan Kai Burnett: We have to find something you like. Maybe not that. You have to find something you like.

[46:09] Jason A. Coombs: Like So which one did you love?

[46:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: Well, not either of those.

[46:13] Jason A. Coombs: Got it.

[46:14] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love, I actually am like of the I don't love working in a restaurant, but I love working with food and wine. Um, I am a nerd about it. And so I love working in primarily I love working in wine bars because it's a small to them. Yeah, and I love going to them. Because it's like usually a small food menu and a bigger wine menu. And for me, I can I am passionate about telling you what wine you should drink with your birata or whatever. I love that stuff. And working in a place that doesn't feel like sometimes we're like, we have to do it to survive. Find something you like. Yeah, find something you like, because oui, it's hard. Yeah. And for real. And like, you know, I think also get over yourself.

Because I have so many friends, like, I was getting ready to leave Mike, and I was like, rep Magic Mike. Yeah. In Vegas, and I was like, look, I want to go back to New York because I want to live my dreams for the rest of my life. And if that means that I'm gonna go have go back to New York and have to go from chanting Tatum, signing my paychecks to working in a wine bargain, I'm happy to do that.

[47:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love that you said that. When we first started the show, we had a question on every episode that was like, if you could have your dream artistic career for the rest of your life, but how to go back to your survival job for the next seven years or something, would you do it? Yeah, I did it. Yeah, I absolutely did. I know I love that's why we cut that question a long time ago. Maybe we should put it back in. I moved back from New York in 2022, and then I started working in uh wine at a wine spot. I mean, I worked in a wine spot when I was back in New York, 2016, 2017, 2018. Then I went to LA in Vegas, then I came back, I went to another wine spot. Uh so there's seven years in there. There's easily seven years in there.

And and I remember one of the guys in Magic Mike saying to me, like, oh, I could never go back to a restaurant after this. And I was like, why? You may have to, bro. But also that person might not have to, because he might be okay taking a paycheck and going to work. But I want to make stuff, I want to be at the forefront, I want to be at all the parties. I want to be so close to the fire that my face hurts. I want to watch my friends win drama desks, and I want them to watch me do it too. And if that means that like the last couple of years, the couple of years before this incredible year and a half that I've had, I was working in wine bars, great. I drank a lot of wine. It was delicious. I love wine. We love wine.

[48:48] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Thank you. I think that's so important for our listeners because sometimes we forget, like on either end, like if you're being if you're really successful or if you're really stuck in your survival job, and there's like sometimes I think a lot of people forget the in-between, and that's the most important part.

[49:03] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I mean, uh so often we're just working, right? It's like I'm doing a million contracts and they're not being reviewed by the New York Times. You know, I'm doing a million things, doing what I love, trying to pay my bills, feeding my dogs. That's like what else can I do? Right. Um, and I I do like find my friends having this like a feeling about it, but I also think it's too bad because so so many of my incredibly talented friends actually who work on Broadway have other jobs because they want to have comfort. And there's I think there used to be a stigma about that. Oh, well, if you have another job that isn't just your survival job, then you don't really want this. And it's like, well, no, actually, it's very expensive to live here now, more than ever. So, like, what if we just gave each other a break?

[49:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: And my friends who are selling real estate and then going and starring in Broadway shows, I want to watch, I want to go to their open houses and eat their free sandwiches, and then I want to go see them sing the house down on Broadway.

[50:01] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[50:02] Jordan Kai Burnett: Snaps.

[50:03] Jason A. Coombs: Thanks.

[50:04] Jordan Kai Burnett: You're welcome. Last question before a really, really fun game.

[50:06] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[50:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: Hope I we forget that we're gonna.

[50:09] Jason A. Coombs: No, we're gonna play a game.

[50:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: I can't wait.

[50:10] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Well, now I'm really now that I've gotten to know you a little bit through this interview, and now I know not to spoil, but we are gonna be competing in the game.

[50:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm quite nervous.

[50:18] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, like you're gonna crush me.

[50:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: We don't even know what the game is.

[50:22] Jason A. Coombs: I know, but I just know what if it's like pickleball, I will be bad.

[50:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: I have to pee so bad, so I hope it's nothing active.

[50:27] Jason A. Coombs: Oh well, we could probably pause them.

[50:29] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's okay. No, I'm not we're like really in it.

[50:31] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, okay, great, I think I just we touched on this a little bit. The world is fucking insane right now. Our country's insane right now.

[50:40] Jordan Kai Burnett: I've heard of it. What is what are you doing to keep sane? And is there something feeding your soul artistically, like a TV show or a book or a movie?

[50:51] Jason A. Coombs: A podcast podcast.

[50:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: Well, um besides your own show, of course.

[50:57] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah. No, I'm at work right now, so that's great. I love being at work.

[51:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah.

[51:01] Jason A. Coombs: That keeps me sane. I love being at work. Um what am I? You know what's funny is actually in this time, it kind of started during the pandemic. I found myself having less and less bandwidth for like great things because I found myself feeling like, well, if I'm not really gonna pay attention to this, I'm doing a disservice to the people that made it. And that started to make me anxious. And then I was like, Well, I can't watch anything good. So in the last few years I've gotten into like really like Love is Blind and Oh yeah, The Bachelor, and all these things that like respect for the people that make them.

[51:37] Jordan Kai Burnett: You are making art. You are producing shows within an inch of your life. But recently I watched Black Rabbit on Netflix. Shout out! Oh it was so good. I had a binge because I'm like, Yeah, 100%. I've been a New York fairy tale, and I'm also anything that's about New York or has women kissing in it, I'm watching. Um that's just my entire yeah, or dogs. Um but never when a dog dies. If a dog dies, I'm not watching it, period. We got okay. We'll send you really clear. If anyone's listening, can you send some recommendations over with those guidelines? Thank you.

[52:11] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, 100%. If a dog dies, I'm not watching it. Um anyway, so it's been hard for me to consume, but I do I will say that recently I have started really loving going to the theater again.

[52:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: The movie theater or the well, both.

[52:24] Jason A. Coombs: I love going to the movies.

[52:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah. I love going to the movies. If there's good popcorn at that movie theater, all bets are off.

[52:30] Jason A. Coombs: Um Do you like butter on the popcorn?

[52:32] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I like to have it layered. I will have them fill half of the thing, go put the butter on it, bring it back, have them put butter on it, toss it around.

[52:39] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[52:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: Then I buy a bag of peanut butter M&Ms. Who didn't want this.

[52:42] Jason A. Coombs: No, I get I buy a bag of peanut butter M&Ms, and then hopefully it's an AMC, which means that there is a machine soda fountain.

[52:49] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yes.

[52:49] Jason A. Coombs: Then I get either like a really big Cherry Coke Zero or like something like that.

[52:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: Can I tell you I get the Cherry Coke Zero on it?

[52:55] Jason A. Coombs: So yum.

[52:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's so yum. And then I have one bite of M&M per one. So I one M&M, peanut M&M is three popcorn kernels.

[53:03] Jason A. Coombs: Got it.

[53:04] Jordan Kai Burnett: So one, two, three, move on to the next M&M.

[53:11] Jason A. Coombs: You're gonna lose it.

[53:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, you're just gonna lose the hand because that's not how we do it in this house.

[53:15] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, I understand.

[53:15] Jordan Kai Burnett: And do you share? Like it's easy.

[53:17] Jason A. Coombs: You might get your own.

[53:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, no, no, no. I definitely share. I'll scoop cups for my friends.

[53:21] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, everybody gets a cup, because if you put your hand in there, you're gonna lose your hand.

[53:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yuck.

[53:25] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[53:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah. I'm not even grossed out. I just think it's yucky that you are trying to do this. Like it's delicious. Savor it.

[53:31] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Uh what were we talking about?

[53:33] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, we love going to the movies.

[53:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah. I love what's feeding your soul.

[53:35] Jordan Kai Burnett: To the theater. I've been starting to love going to the theater again. Like, really, really.

[53:39] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[53:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: It's nice.

[53:40] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, it's really nice. I just like going.

[53:43] Jordan Kai Burnett: Right. Yeah. And I feel, you know, doing a show in New York and going to the theater is such a special feeling. And I feel you're living an artist's life. I think there's something about like, I feel like a kid.

[53:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[53:54] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm just like, wow, I'm doing this. And then I get to see my friends do this. This the best.

[54:00] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[54:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah. Thank you. And just in case you want to know about me, you guys, I get my popcorn no butter. I don't like it.

[54:05] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, great. So we don't have to share.

[54:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: We won't share. So you won't have to worry about it. How's your peanut butter and M&M stuff?

[54:10] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I would do that.

[54:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: Wow, that seems lackluster. But you know, I like like a I like a like a dark chocolate.

[54:16] Jason A. Coombs: That's a wild choice.

[54:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love like a sour water. I mean, don't get me wrong. If it's in front of me, I'm eating it. You know those clusters of crunch?

[54:22] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[54:23] Jordan Kai Burnett: Bunch of crunch? It's a blue box.

[54:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, a bunch of crunch.

[54:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I'll do that. I don't know why I said it like a bunch of crunch. Or like, judge me, but I do love a raisinette.

[54:30] Jason A. Coombs: Dark chocolate.

[54:31] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, I would never judge you. I will go to a CVS specifically for a raisinette.

[54:35] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you. I really need to reason that I can't be stopped. If you go to London, the two best raisinettes can be found at the Tesco, which is like a gas station, basically gonna have an eleven. Or a Sainsbury's, which is also just like another grocery store. Or if you want the bougie ones, MS. But I'm telling you right now, the Sainsbury and Tesco raisinettes are.

[54:57] Jason A. Coombs: What's going on back here, Alan? Are you looking at the time?

[55:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: How'd you know that?

[55:01] Jason A. Coombs: I got an email checking the notes of the case.

[55:03] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, well, because I could see you looking and I'm I'm very uh like yeah, if something's happening, I can't miss it.

[55:09] Jason A. Coombs: Got it.

[55:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: Who's just checking? Mouse female, I guess. I'm like scurrying about, even if it's sitting. Anyway, all right. We love going to the theater.

[55:16] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[55:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: I love that. I'm an AMC. Jason loves the movies.

[55:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[55:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: All right. So we play a game.

[55:23] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, I'm scared.

[55:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, let's see. Can you pass me my board?

[55:26] Jason A. Coombs: So basically, don't look at it.

[55:28] Jordan Kai Burnett: The back?

[55:29] Jason A. Coombs: You can just pass the front. Or yeah, pass it to me.

[55:32] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, yeah. This is has a prop.

[55:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, no, this is like we're using I feel grateful.

[55:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, so it's post-its, it's so cute. I'm terrified.

[55:43] Jason A. Coombs: No, I'm so into this. Okay, Alan, you're gonna be the scorekeeper and the timekeeper. You're gonna have 30 seconds to get up to 10. Picking 10 of these. There's something from the 90s, because Romy Michelle's from the 90s. So these are all kind of things from the 90s. You can't say what it is. We're gonna describe it and then you have to guess. And then you're gonna go.

[56:01] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, so we're not competing.

[56:03] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, you are because whoever gets the most points will win.

[56:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: So, in other words, no, but we're playing together because I could I I I don't want her to guess. So I'm not gonna get it. But I want her to guess.

[56:13] Jason A. Coombs: Whoops. That's the timer. I'm getting prepped. I'm getting prepped. I feel like we're playing on the same team.

[56:18] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, I love that. Because here's the thing, because I wonder. I want I don't want to set you up to lose just so I get more points.

[56:24] Jason A. Coombs: Oh.

[56:24] Jordan Kai Burnett: I guess it would be nonest. Yeah. Let's try. Like, don't trust me. I'm a liar. But I want to play the game for real. So I think we can we just decide like Christmas spirit. Like, we just want to get as many points as we can together.

[56:35] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, happy Thanksgiving.

[56:36] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I love that size. Hanukkah, all of it, whatever it is. All the all the holidays. Okay, let's go. Do you want to guess first? Or do you want to?

[56:41] Jason A. Coombs: Sure, I'll guess first.

[56:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, great. Because you're on Broadway.

[56:44] Jason A. Coombs: Off butt. But same thing. Honestly, I'm in a show with everybody else that's been on Broadway a bunch of times. So if you ask my mom, it's Broadway.

[56:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Okay, so Alan, you can put 30 seconds on. Okay, you ready?

[56:54] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, wait. I'm gonna tell you like with words. I'm like acting it out.

[56:58] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I'm gonna say like a cucumber and vinegar is a ready.

[57:02] Jason A. Coombs: I'm ready.

[57:03] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Wait, hang on. A cucumber and vinegar is a pickle.

[57:06] Jason A. Coombs: So okay, I just want to make sure we're on the same page. Great. Good start. Ready? 30 seconds, right?

[57:11] Jason A. Coombs: Yep.

[57:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: I don't feel good about this, but go ahead. Go ahead.

[57:14] Jason A. Coombs: 30. 29. Alicia Silverstone started in this movie.

[57:19] Jordan Kai Burnett: Clueless.

[57:20] Jason A. Coombs: Um it's the show I'm doing right now. Romey Michelle.

[57:22] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um, if you have headphones in and a tape deck, it's called uh a cassette.

[57:27] Jason A. Coombs: Uh walk man.

[57:28] Jordan Kai Burnett: There you go. Um, it's a scary book for kids from back in the booth bumps.

[57:33] Jason A. Coombs: Um if I have a water gun and I'm getting you with it and it's not a nerf one, it's a has it's it's the same two letters.

[57:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: No, keep going.

[57:42] Jason A. Coombs: Nerf gun.

[57:43] Jordan Kai Burnett: I have uh squirt. Uh uh.

[57:45] Jason A. Coombs: Zero.

[57:47] Jordan Kai Burnett: What was it? Put it back.

[57:48] Jason A. Coombs: Super soaker.

[57:49] Jordan Kai Burnett: I would have never known what that was.

[57:51] Jason A. Coombs: What?

[57:52] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, Alan, you're older than me. Wait, let's do a bonus one. This is this is before Wi-Fi. If you wanted to get on AOL, it was a router.

[58:01] Jason A. Coombs: Ethernet cable.

[58:02] Jordan Kai Burnett: What goes through that?

[58:05] Jason A. Coombs: Dialogue.

[58:07] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay, Alan. Nobody put you in the game. Pretty good though.

[58:10] Jason A. Coombs: I'm saying we got six.

[58:11] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Okay, my turn.

[58:13] Jason A. Coombs: Alright. Whew. That was fun.

[58:14] Jordan Kai Burnett: That was great. You're good.

[58:16] Jason A. Coombs: Alright. Thank you, Jason. I was like, terrified. Let's see. If I don't know, I might not know.

[58:21] Jordan Kai Burnett: I didn't know. Just sounded out.

[58:23] Jason A. Coombs: Super Sound It Out. We've got this. Go ahead, Alan.

[58:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Put it. 30. 29. Um, the show with uh Rachel and Monica and Chandler.

[58:33] Jason A. Coombs: Uh the ship is sinking in.

[58:35] Jordan Kai Burnett: Titanic.

[58:37] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, Carson Daly hosted it. It was right in the TRL.

[58:41] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, uh Genie in a bottle.

[58:43] Jason A. Coombs: Uh Christina Aguilera.

[58:45] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, uh, she was Cinderella in Cinderella with Winnieton.

[58:49] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, uh Disney movie. It's on Broadway right now, and Animals.

[58:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: There's a blanking.

[58:55] Jason A. Coombs: Two.

[58:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh my god, Chucky and and Tommy picked up the rug rats.

[58:59] Jason A. Coombs: Fuck yeah.

[59:00] Jordan Kai Burnett: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

[59:03] Jason A. Coombs: Fuck yeah!

[59:05] Jordan Kai Burnett: I think you vote for winners. Congratulations.

[59:08] Jason A. Coombs: You want to finish?

[59:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, I want to finish. Come on over.

[59:11] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, ready?

[59:12] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, we're finished. You can edit it out.

[59:14] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah, I know. We're not editing it out. This is great.

[59:16] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, I love that. Alright, ready? Oh, oh, we're doing time again?

[59:20] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[59:20] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, Alan. We're not done with the game.

[59:22] Jason A. Coombs: I thought it was Okay, go ahead. This is not just for fun.

[59:25] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh on Friday nights, you'd rent a movie from this place.

[59:27] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, Blockbuster.

[59:29] Jordan Kai Burnett: Um Will Smith's iconic start was on the Men in Black A TV show called.

[59:33] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, the Prince of Bel Air.

[59:34] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh-huh. Uh uh Once Upon A One More Time was the music of.

[59:37] Jason A. Coombs: The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

[59:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: Once upon it one more time was the music of Brittany Spears.

[59:41] Jason A. Coombs: Uh, if you want to be my lover, you have to be in this band.

[59:42] Jordan Kai Burnett: If you want to be a Spice Girls.

[59:44] Jason A. Coombs: Um, it's a little guy, it looks like a gremlin, and uh you feed it.

[59:47] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh my god!

[59:49] Jason A. Coombs: Um it's I know it. I see smushy, it's just like a stuffed in Burby.

[59:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah.

[59:54] Jason A. Coombs: Three.

[59:55] Jordan Kai Burnett: I'm holding it.

[59:55] Jason A. Coombs: Two.

[59:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay.

[59:56] Jason A. Coombs: One.

[59:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: Come on.

[59:57] Jason A. Coombs: Wow. We're gonna do this one.

[59:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah, we're gonna do it.

[1:00:00] Jason A. Coombs: We're gonna crush it. Alright, Alan, right away.

[1:00:01] Jordan Kai Burnett: I should have done more.

[1:00:02] Jason A. Coombs: Alan, right away. 29. Oh my god, Beyoncé's band.

[1:00:06] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh Destiny's Trail.

[1:00:07] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, but you would message people.

[1:00:09] Jordan Kai Burnett: AOL Instant Messenger.

[1:00:10] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[1:00:10] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah.

[1:00:11] Jason A. Coombs: Correct. Oh gosh, it's like zebras and it's colorful and it's like fruit artists.

[1:00:17] Jordan Kai Burnett: The artist and it's like I would have never got that.

[1:00:19] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, the little thing, and you like feed it and it's like Tamagotchis.

[1:00:23] Jordan Kai Burnett: Wow.

[1:00:24] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god. R.A.P. She did die on the city.

[1:00:26] Jordan Kai Burnett: Aaliyah.

[1:00:28] Jason A. Coombs: Four. Um, um, um, um, it's a it's a show about magic, and there's two aunts.

[1:00:32] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, uh practical magic?

[1:00:33] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[1:00:34] Jordan Kai Burnett: Oh, Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

[1:00:35] Jason A. Coombs: I love that movie.

[1:00:35] Jordan Kai Burnett: Thank you. Let's do the last one. I don't even know.

[1:00:37] Jason A. Coombs: You can do it.

[1:00:38] Jordan Kai Burnett: Sound it out. Let's figure it out. It's a movie, and I think it's I don't even know the movie, but I think it's like action.

[1:00:44] Jason A. Coombs: Let me do it.

[1:00:45] Jordan Kai Burnett: Let me do it.

[1:00:45] Jason A. Coombs: Jason has to do it.

[1:00:46] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh Keanu Reeves.

[1:00:48] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, uh coding. Uh uh Matrix.

[1:00:50] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yes.

[1:00:51] Jason A. Coombs: Never saw it. Brittany did not even know how to say it.

[1:00:53] Jordan Kai Burnett: Yeah.

[1:00:54] Jason A. Coombs: She's never seen The Matrix. Okay, Alan.

[1:00:56] Jordan Kai Burnett: That's okay. I hadn't seen The Matrix until like 2018. Jordan, this was so much fun. This was such a blast. Thanks for having me.

[1:01:01] Jason A. Coombs: How are listeners where they can follow you and keep up with all the things that you're talking about?

[1:01:04] Jordan Kai Burnett: I wish you would follow me at JKA I B. Jordan Kybernet. At JKA I B on Instagram. And I wish that you would come see Romey Michelle, the musical at stage 42 before November 30th. Thank you.

[1:01:16] Jason A. Coombs: Run, run, run. And if you're tuning in because you're a Jordan fan, obviously, and you don't follow us yet. Follow us at Survival Jobs Pod on Instagram and TikTok.

[1:01:26] Jordan Kai Burnett: Uh on Facebook, which we still have a Facebook moving. Survival jobs A podcast.

[1:01:29] Jason A. Coombs: No, don't do that.

[1:01:32] Jordan Kai Burnett: Okay. Got it. That's not part of my brand. Don't go on Facebook.

[1:01:38] Jason A. Coombs: Can they shoot us an email?

[1:01:39] Jordan Kai Burnett: Sure. You can shoot us an email at survivaljobspod at gmail.com. You can follow Jason at Jason A. Combs. And you can follow me at Sammy Toots. And go see your meme Michelle. And like, subscribe and follow and tell your friends. And bring a friend. And make a friend. Make a friend. And we're all friends. Happy Thanksgiving.

[1:01:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yay. Thank you for doing tech for us, Alan.

[1:01:59] Jordan Kai Burnett: Way to go, Alan. Really good. Play us out with some legally blonde white ones.