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[0:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hi everyone, welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast in collaboration with Broadway World.

[0:09] Jason A. Coombs: My name is Samantha Tuozzolo, and this is Jason A. Coombs.

[0:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hey Jason.

[0:15] Jason A. Coombs: Hey Samantha.

[0:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: How are you?

[0:24] Jason A. Coombs: Um no, just you know, busy as always.

[0:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: How about yourself? How's your survival job, Jason?

[0:30] Jason A. Coombs: Uh stressful.

[0:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: Stressful.

[0:34] Jason A. Coombs: Now I have this little guy with his fresh haircut.

[0:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, Ziggy.

[0:39] Jason A. Coombs: For those of you just listening, Jason has the cutest dog.

[0:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: His name is Ziggy. He's so fluffy, and he does look fresh AF with his haircut.

[0:49] Jason A. Coombs: Uh he just got a haircut. So for those who are watching the video, you can see Z looking sharp for the ladies out there.

[1:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: Jason, I have to talk to you. I recently started watching this Jeffrey Dahmer series on Netflix.

[1:08] Jason A. Coombs: Have you watched?

[1:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yikes. Um, no, I I'm very torn on watching.

[1:14] Jason A. Coombs: I have a lot of opinions.

[1:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. Yes. I have to tell you, I watched the first two episodes, and I think I can no longer watch.

[1:26] Jason A. Coombs: Why?

[1:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Because it makes me sick.

[1:31] Jason A. Coombs: I believe that.

[1:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: It is like no spoilers to the listeners. I mean, it's a true story. It's just yeah.

[1:40] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, I yeah.

[1:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, so Evan, what's his name?

[1:44] Jason A. Coombs: Evan Peters, yeah.

[1:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Is a phenomenal actor. Like, I was watching this guy's performance and felt sick to my stomach.

[1:55] Jason A. Coombs: And I just am so conflicted on continuing to watch because it made me ill.

[2:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: But it is like I've been reading all of these articles and seeing all these things on social media saying that it is like the number one streamed show on Netflix ever.

[2:16] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, ever, really?

[2:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: Ever. And also Ryan Murphy in the same week had this show be number one and then a movie, which the name is slipping my mind, also on Netflix. Number one.

[2:28] Jason A. Coombs: This guy is crazy. Ryan Murphy. Like what does he go to sleep? Like, I can't even do my survival job and this podcast and also maybe go for a run.

[2:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like he has a lot of help.

[2:40] Jason A. Coombs: So a lot of money.

[2:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. A lot of money, a lot of help. Like I hate that meme that's like, oh, you have the same amount of hours in the day as Beyonce.

[2:48] Jason A. Coombs: And I'm like, well, Beyonce has a personal trainer and a chef and a nutritionist and nanny and 14 personal assistants.

[2:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: So yes.

[2:57] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you for saying that because sometimes I am too hard on myself and I'm like, gosh, I'm not doing enough and I'm too stressed and XYZ.

[3:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: But you're right. We at this time are just a one one person band.

[3:10] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, and please, Beyonce fans don't come for me. I was just just uh just highlighting the difference between the queen.

[3:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh, I never put on I never put on survival jobs. There we go.

[3:21] Jason A. Coombs: I didn't put on our survival jobs background.

[3:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, it's alright. There it is now. Um and my phone just went off. Sorry.

[3:32] Jason A. Coombs: That's all right. It's life.

[3:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, no, but I have been I've been torn about watching and not watching, uh, just because I've heard how good it is, and Evan Peters is a phenomenal actor.

[3:44] Jason A. Coombs: Um, I love him and like everything he does. But I guess it just comes to the point where a lot of the family members of the victims of Jeffrey Dahmer were like really upset because they weren't contacted, and it's not the first um time the story has been depicted in recent times.

[4:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like there's been like I think like 12 other documentaries and movies and stuff, and they then the families of the victims feel like every time there's a new release, they're kind of having to relive this awful, awful thing.

[4:13] Jason A. Coombs: Like, can you imagine losing someone you loved, and like every couple years getting reminded?

[4:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I think there's like a really big court scene. Um, which one of the victims is sisters, like because like the court stream was like live back then, or like it was filmed back then and like released, and like they got someone obviously an actor to portray the sister, and she was like it was like reliving that again, like seeing herself, like seeing someone saying her exact words, like looking like her was like really traumatizing.

[4:43] Jason A. Coombs: And um, so I guess I've been really torn about watching it, but like I don't know. I think it's important to remember those things, and you know, I think the difference, and I'm sorry I'm going on a long tirade on this, but I think the difference and why I was uh why I was thinking about watching it was because like for example, the police really failed a lot of the victims because you know Jeffrey Dahmer was a uh a white man, um, and he was he got away with this because like a lot of the police like believed whatever he said.

[5:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like there's a famous case of like the little Asian boy who was like one of his victims who's like 14 years old and who had escaped, yeah, and then the police like sent him right back to Jeffrey Dahmer.

[5:23] Jason A. Coombs: This is the episode that I stopped watching when I was like, I think I have to take a break or be done.

[5:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. He's like, this is my boyfriend, and he's wasted. And the neighbors are like, this isn't a child. Like the neighbors are there, and they're like, hey, police, this is a child. Like, I don't think he's drunk. And they were like, ma'am, that's his boyfriend.

[5:41] Jason A. Coombs: And he, I mean, I don't know how accurate the show is. I'm sorry I interrupted you. I'm so sorry.

[5:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, it's okay. They he like brought the police officers into his home and was like, look, there's photos of us. Like, this is our home together. And the photos were like a Polaroid of the kid like naked laying. Like, I don't understand.

[6:00] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, which highlights the homophobia and the racism that um allowed Jeffrey Dahmer to attack what, like over 30 victims.

[6:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: Mostly men of color.

[6:11] Jason A. Coombs: 17, well, whatever. Too many.

[6:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: 17 because I like I Googled a lot. I have not watched the whole thing, but I was like, What?

[6:18] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[6:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, it's wild. So I've been on the fence, but I've been I'm I might check it out because I think I need to be more educated before I speak. I've been speaking so much about it, but I've been reading. I did a lot of reading and a lot of listening. Um yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna pick it back up.

[6:36] Jason A. Coombs: It's hard, it's heavy.

[6:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's heavy and it's sick. It made me feel like I but uh it's so hard to talk about this.

[6:44] Jason A. Coombs: I say, but that's when you know that they're doing they're sh they're portraying it right, and I don't know if there's a right way to portray this when I actually my body feels ill from watching this.

[6:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I did just want to speak about that because it is all over. I feel like everyone's trying to watch or watch, or people are like, I cannot. My mom binged it because she was like lived through it actually happening, so she was like, I was so sick watching it, but I lived through it and I just I I couldn't stop.

[7:15] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I remember being a kid and like it's not funny, but my older cousins would like scare me. They'd be like, Oh my god, Jeffrey Dahmer's gonna get you.

[7:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god.

[7:24] Jason A. Coombs: Cause he was like, that was like a big thing in the 90s, and like he was a real person, and I remember I'm being so scared. I remember I was like visiting my cousins in Virginia, and they were like, Oh, he lives in Virginia.

[7:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: He did it, he lived in Milwaukee.

[7:37] Jason A. Coombs: But they're like, Oh, he stick to trying to scare me. I was like a little kid, like I was like, Oh my god, what five five or six or whatever whenever he got caught. So I remember being terrified of Jeffrey Dahmer.

[7:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, yeah.

[7:51] Jason A. Coombs: Anyway, oh, and one last thing I'll say before you wrap up was that the police officers who let that little boy go, like I think they just retired after or something, and they were just like the Milwaukee police department was like praising them for like what a great job they'd done, and people on social media were like, Oh, really? Like, what a great job these guys did, and they took down their tweet because they were like, because this show came out and reminded people of how they failed.

[8:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: They literally failed, you know.

[8:21] Jason A. Coombs: Anyway, yeah, sorry when I'm a rant. I wasn't expecting to talk about it so much.

[8:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's so interesting this show because there's such a for shows like this that are based that are real, it's like there's such a fine line between being like, oh my god, it's done so well, and Evan Peters is so good, to being like, yikes, like this is real.

[8:44] Jason A. Coombs: And then I'm a psychopath and I'm like locking my door.

[8:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: I believe he's dead.

[8:48] Jason A. Coombs: I believe Jeffrey Dahmer is now they murdered him in prison.

[8:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: Correct.

[8:53] Jason A. Coombs: But I'm sorry, spoilers all over.

[8:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sorry, everyone, yeah.

[8:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, major spoilers.

[8:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm like locking my door. I did the same thing when the people versus OJ came out. I binged it and then I was like locking my door. Like OJ was gonna come to Brooklyn and get me.

[9:06] Jason A. Coombs: Well, you know, you never be too safe nowadays because people are insane.

[9:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: So especially as a woman, I don't want to speak for women, but you all need to do everything you can do to protect yourselves against these crazy and insane people, especially men out there who are disgusting.

[9:25] Jason A. Coombs: Anyway, not to take a hard turn to change the subject, but please don't let's get off of this Jeffrey Dahmer.

[9:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. Um any anything you've been watching or are reading, Jay, that's um filling you artistically?

[9:40] Jason A. Coombs: Well, I have I have a friend who's in The Luckiest Girl Alive, it's a new Netflix show.

[9:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god.

[9:47] Jason A. Coombs: His name is Carson McCormick, and he plays this really it's I'm not sure if you know anything about it, or or if I watched the trailer the other day.

[9:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, yeah, it's it's really good.

[9:57] Jason A. Coombs: And I'm not just saying that because he's my friend, but uh it's a really good it's um uh based on a book called The Luckiest Girl Alive, and it's a new Netflix series. And I remember talking to him a couple months ago, and he's like, People are gonna are gonna hate me when this comes out. And I was like, no, everybody knows you're just acting. Then I watched and I was like, yikes.

[10:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um he, you know, he he plays the villain and um he plays it very well. I will say that.

[10:22] Jason A. Coombs: Um check it out. I I recommend you watching it. Maybe we can talk about it next week if you watch it this way.

[10:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'll definitely try to I'll try to watch.

[10:28] Jason A. Coombs: And so then it's gonna be our it's a quick watch, it's only like 90 minutes, I think.

[10:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh great, yeah.

[10:34] Jason A. Coombs: And uh, what's Milo Quinn is right?

[10:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: Is Mila Kunis?

[10:37] Jason A. Coombs: She does she's phenomenal.

[10:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: I never like I never thought about Mila Kunis being a phenomenal actress, and like she really like nailed it.

[10:44] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, great. Actually, Finn Witrock. Um, we love yeah.

[10:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: And my girl, what's the mom? What's her name?

[10:51] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, I can't remember her name on the top of my head, but um, the mom from Friday Night Lights, and she's been in American Horror Story, and uh sucks.

[11:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I wasn't planning on talking about it.

[11:01] Jason A. Coombs: But yeah, she's so good.

[11:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: I see her face.

[11:03] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, me too. Dang it. I see her face.

[11:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know.

[11:05] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know, it's something my mind, but she is fierce. Shout out DM us, you guys, when you remember her name.

[11:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up.

[11:13] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, just keep talking, I'll look it up.

[11:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, keep talking, keep talking.

[11:17] Jason A. Coombs: Well, I do want to talk about Connie Britton, yes, Connie Britton.

[11:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, yes, yes.

[11:23] Jason A. Coombs: We love Connie Britton, Burton, Tim Burton. I'm confused.

[11:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um Jason, I'm so excited because I'm going to see the invited dress rehearsal of KIMBERLY AKIMBO tonight.

[11:35] Jason A. Coombs: Exciting, yes.

[11:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: And this will lead us into our guest. Um, and and we'll talk a lot about this in the interview with Steven Boyer.

[11:44] Jason A. Coombs: You guys wait till you hear this episode. He's so funny and has so much wisdom, and it it's a really good episode.

[11:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: But I saw KIMBERLY AKIMBO off Broadway at the Atlantic. Is that where it was? I'm embarrassed if I'm saying the wrong thing, but I think it was um months ago, and I was in awe of this show and these performances.

[12:08] Jason A. Coombs: I literally laughed so hard, cried so hard, gasped. Like I was like speaking out loud in this show, like an idiot. Like people next to me are probably like, Can this girl be quiet? It was it's just such an incredible show, and and I really feel like like nothing we've ever seen before.

[12:27] Steven Boyer: Um, so I'm so excited to go see what the Broadway production is like, you know, because there's always changes and adjustments. So I'm how many times can I say, I'm so excited? But I am the cat the younger cast, like some of the younger casts were was on were at uh Broadway con when I had gone and I got to go to that panel. And um, it was so cool to hear how excited they were about that about the transfer and you know the work that they're doing. So it's really cool that it's finally here, you know. Well, you know, some previews, right? But um, or is it the opening official opening? Tonight will be the dress rehearsal, and then tomorrow, which is Wednesday. Where we're talking to you guys from the past.

Wednesday will be the first preview. This is coming out on Thursday, October 13th. And that is gonna be the second preview. So you guys should check it out because I really feel like once this starts getting buzzed and people start seeing it, it's you're not gonna get an easy ticket. So, y'all check it out at the booth. I heard it here first. Check it out at the booth, y'all. Yeah, check it out. You heard it here first by on survival jobs. Yeah, and so we were so lucky to be able to talk to Steven Boyer this week. Big week. It's a big week for him, and he spent uh you know, an hour chatting with us about survival jobs, about his journeys. So shocking. There's a part where we get a little spoiler where he said he didn't work for 10 years, and I was shocked, shocked, and uh, you know, it really puts things into perspective.

And it and I said something really cheesy after, but um, you know, it was like a really good reminder of like to keep going, to keep going, no matter what, you know, no matter how difficult it may be, no matter how many people like naysay you like if you really believe in yourself and you really this is really your dream and it's really your goal, like don't lose sight of it, you know. And then somebody, you know, it just takes one person as you'll hear to believe in you and and to really hold you and and to form you and say, Hey, here's an opportunity. And of course, be prepared, be ready, and and be ready for your opportunity, right? So prepare, but like don't stop. If it's really something you want, like, don't stop.

Yes, you guys do not stop. Let me tell you, let's tell everyone a little bit about Steven before they listen. For sure. Start us off. Okay. Steven Boyer recurs on the second season of the HBO Max series Love Life. Steven starred on the NBC comedy Trial and Error and can be seen in the upcoming feature filled Borderlands. Boyer was nominated for a Tony Award for the Broadway Run of Hand to God, as well as an Obi and a Lucia Lortel Award for his work in the show's Off Broadway Production. Named one of the future legends of New York Theater by Time Out New York. Steven recently starred in Assassins, which was a part of Encore's Off Center series, as well as MTC's The Explorer Club and Second Stages production of Modern Terrorism.

He also played the title role of Trevor and Nick Jones Darkly Funny. Trevor performed with Lesser America. In addition to his work in the theater, Boyer has appeared in Steven Spielberg's Bridge of Spies and in Martin Scorsese's film The Wolf of Wall Street, as well as Hustlers, starring Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu. Boyer recently recurred on the NBC series Chicago Fire, and he's appeared in such TV series as The Blacklist, Orange is a New Black, The Good Wife, The Crazy Ones, Louie, Mom, Person of Interest, Law and Order, and Ed. He's be working, y'all. He starred in and produced the share independent web sitcom pilot from Emily Chadwick Weiss. And he is a graduate of the Juilliard School and is also a member of the ensemble studio theater.

Let's get into it, y'all. And now can be seen in KIMBERLY AKIMBO at theater. Yes. Did I miss that? No. No. Okay, good. It's a new just um not reading correctly. No, you did great. You did great. Enjoy the episode, you guys. Awesome. Enjoy. Welcome, Steven.

[16:30] Steven Boyer: We're so happy to have you on Survival Jobs Podcast.

[16:33] Steven Boyer: Great to be here.

[16:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, where are you zooming in from?

[16:37] Steven Boyer: Uh my house in Windsor Terrace, Brooklyn.

[16:41] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[16:41] Steven Boyer: Yes. Just moved here like uh a couple weeks ago, and I love it.

[16:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: And how's it going so far? Congrats, yeah.

[16:51] Steven Boyer: Thanks. I used to live in a railroad apartment with my three-year-old and my wife, and it was like it was impossible.

[17:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: It was a lot happening, I'm sure.

[17:01] Steven Boyer: A lot, a lot going on. It's like everyone was in the same room all the time.

[17:06] Jason A. Coombs: You're like, it's time.

[17:07] Steven Boyer: It's time.

[17:09] Jason A. Coombs: That's huge. Congratulations.

[17:11] Steven Boyer: Yeah.

[17:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Speaking of huge things happening in your life.

[17:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: This is a big week for KIMBERLY AKIMBO, which I spoke to you about a little bit before we recorded. I'm a huge fangirl. What are they calling the Kimberly fans?

[17:21] Steven Boyer: They're calling them something.

[17:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know.

[17:25] Steven Boyer: I don't know. There's something going around, unless I'm completely delusional, but I don't know what it is.

[17:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I guess I'm not a true fan.

[17:33] Steven Boyer: Nope.

[17:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Kimmets.

[17:35] Steven Boyer: Oh.

[17:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know if that is it, but I will going forward call myself a Kimette.

[17:41] Steven Boyer: Kimette.

[17:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh sure.

[17:44] Steven Boyer: We're starting it right now.

[17:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, we're starting it.

[17:47] Steven Boyer: On Survival Jobs a podcast.

[17:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: There we go.

[17:49] Jason A. Coombs: Survival Jobs A Podcast.

[17:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, so congratulations on the show, too. We'll talk about it a little bit further into the interview. It's a big week for you, and you bought a house and you're in Brooklyn and everything's happening.

[17:55] Steven Boyer: Everything's happening.

[18:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Amazing. Before we so this inter this interview, the show is called Survival Jobs a Podcast. We love to talk to artists about their survival jobs and how they got to where they are. If you could describe what survival jobs means to you, what would you say?

[18:18] Steven Boyer: Like when you hear survival job.

[18:21] Steven Boyer: Uh what if he's like, This is he's like, oh gosh, this is a stressful one. The reason you know we started asking this is because we've we've interviewed a ton of people, and I feel like the definition of survival job varies from person to person. It's just the thing you do to keep you know body and soul together. Like it's the thing you do to pay your bills that you really don't care about. It's just it's just a job. It's just it's just something, you know. Also, to me, the best survival job is always the one that like you got paid in cash, or it was like off the books or something like that, because it was it was really about just trying to make the most money possible in the shortest amount of time so you could get back to doing what you really wanted to do.

[19:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's so true.

[19:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: That cash money under the table, baby.

[19:17] Jason A. Coombs: Well, speaking of that, do you have a favorite survival job for survival?

[19:20] Steven Boyer: I'm stuttering. Do you have a favorite survival job you've had over the years?

[19:23] Steven Boyer: Um that maybe impacted your career positively.

[19:27] Steven Boyer: Oh no, none of them impacted my career positively.

[19:32] Steven Boyer: Not at all.

[19:33] Jason A. Coombs: All right.

[19:33] Steven Boyer: He's like cargo.

[19:35] Steven Boyer: Oh my god. They were there. I I had I had a few. I actually haven't had as as many as I thought I would, but I I've had some ones that are really bizarre.

[19:51] Steven Boyer: Um talking about money under the table and like getting paid in cash. Those jobs are really hard to find. I actually had a really hard time like finding a survival job, period, just because it you always have to know somebody, and you know, I have no resume for a survival job. And uh, but a friend of mine was working at this bakery on like uh Avenue A. And um, and then it was like this tiny, tiny, just like a little counter with like coffee and baked goods, and the bakery was in the back. There was always one person, it was just one person behind the counter, and that was it. And it stayed open late until like 10 and uh late for a bakery.

[20:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, and she she was like, Oh, I'm quitting my job uh because I got I got held up.

[20:46] Steven Boyer: Somebody came in and helped me up with a gun at like 9 30 at night, and I'm the only one there, and I'm like, take take all the money, take it all.

[20:55] Steven Boyer: Take the money, take the pastries, take the money, take the croissant coffee.

[20:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Take the croissants.

[21:01] Steven Boyer: You want you want some extra cream?

[21:03] Steven Boyer: Yeah, take the oat milk, I'll take whatever you want.

[21:08] Steven Boyer: The most expensive milks.

[21:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god.

[21:10] Steven Boyer: Take all the milks.

[21:12] Steven Boyer: So but like she told me, and she was like, Yeah, and it didn't really set in until later. I'm like, wow, I guess you had a gun. And uh, that was that was a really dangerous situation. So she quit. And when she told me that she quit, I'm like, so uh that means there's a job available, right?

[21:31] Steven Boyer: Now they need someone, right?

[21:34] Steven Boyer: And she's like, sure, they do.

[21:36] Steven Boyer: So I I took that job after she was like, You're like, Yeah, I got I got held up, so I had to get out. I'm like, oh finally, finally an opening.

[21:47] Jason A. Coombs: You're like, I'll take it.

[21:48] Steven Boyer: So I took it.

[21:50] Steven Boyer: I took it, and uh, you know, like I had to get up at like five in the morning, and it was uh which is is not it's not good for someone who works in theater, getting up at 5 a.m. is not no our bodies don't like to do that.

[22:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, yeah, yeah.

[22:06] Steven Boyer: So that job sucked.

[22:09] Steven Boyer: I did not get held up at gunpoint, but that was the question.

[22:13] Steven Boyer: I didn't last there for for very long.

[22:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Were you baking also?

[22:17] Steven Boyer: Like when you're baking.

[22:18] Steven Boyer: I actually would have been way more interested in the baking side of things because I like I talked to like the head baker and was like, what is this? They they were you know experimenting, they were like, we're gonna do some like sesame miso muffins.

[22:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Ooh, show me, show me the miso muffins.

[22:36] Steven Boyer: Yeah, but no, I was just like slinging coffee and croissants, slinking coffee and croissants.

[22:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Slinging coffee on everybody.

[22:45] Steven Boyer: I love that.

[22:46] Steven Boyer: Uh Jason and I worked a survival job together at a restaurant, and the owner always said, if anyone ever comes in to rob this place, just give them everything.

[22:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[22:56] Steven Boyer: Give them the restaurant.

[22:57] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[22:58] Steven Boyer: When you were saying that, I was like, oh, this.

[23:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I mean, luckily, not that I know of Jay, nothing ever like that happened.

[23:04] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[23:06] Steven Boyer: No.

[23:06] Jason A. Coombs: I used to work at Starbucks too.

[23:07] Steven Boyer: And I would work like the closing, I was like the closing shift supervisor.

[23:10] Jason A. Coombs: And it was the same thing.

[23:11] Steven Boyer: They'd be like, yeah, if anybody comes, don't do anything.

[23:14] Jason A. Coombs: I'm like, I wasn't gonna do it.

[23:16] Steven Boyer: I wasn't, I would just yes, they can take whatever they want.

[23:18] Steven Boyer: Take the chairs.

[23:19] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[23:22] Steven Boyer: I do think once somebody broke in and stole all a lot of tequila from this place we worked at.

[23:29] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, that's a good thing to see all.

[23:31] Steven Boyer: Here it's up.

[23:32] Jason A. Coombs: Margarites for everyone.

[23:35] Steven Boyer: Okay, so so it seems like you don't have like a favorite survival job that uh well, I mean like favorite makes it seem like there's one that I'm like, oh that was great. I really love doing that.

[23:46] Steven Boyer: Um I didn't I don't like doing any of them.

[23:51] Steven Boyer: Yeah, but there was I can relate.

[23:53] Steven Boyer: Yeah.

[23:53] Steven Boyer: There was one that was um really weird and I ca and kind of blows people's minds when I tell them about this.

[24:00] Steven Boyer: But it was uh this was another thing that like I just got paid, like uh it was I got paid, you know, per it was a phone call thing calling in to morning radio shows in different parts of the country.

[24:19] Steven Boyer: Because if you've ever listened to morning radio, they're always like, okay, we're good, we're gonna do we're gonna do War of the Roses. We're gonna have Bob thinks that uh Karen is cheating on him.

[24:36] Steven Boyer: So he's gonna have Karen, yeah.

[24:38] Steven Boyer: Karen's gonna get uh a dozen roses for free, and she gets to send it to whoever she wants. We're gonna see if she sends them to Bob.

[24:44] Steven Boyer: Oh and then she's like, Oh, can you send them to Rick?

[24:49] Steven Boyer: And then I'm like, Who's Rick? Who's Rick? And she's like, Oh my god, Bob, is that you? And I'm like, I knew you were cheating on me. I knew it from the moment. Oh my god, you and he, and so this is all fake. All these things are fake on every radio station. All the like wow. And so I found I used to be a uh uh stand-up. And stand-up I can tell surprise. So surprise stand-up doesn't pay well. Well, you don't those drink tickets don't help pay the rent. Like sometimes you're like on the road and they're like, we're gonna pay you in a nachos platter. And there's like no union protecting comedians, like there's no actor's equity for for comedians, so you're you're just kind of like, okay, I'll take the nachos.

Nothing you can do. But um, so uh this other comic was like, oh, you get up early, they connect you to like you know, Greenville or like South Carolina or Georgia or somewhere, and some radio station at like six in the morning, and you and you act like you're in this crazy situation, and you get paid like 50 bucks a call. I'm like, I'm in, I am so there. I like it got really detailed. Like they would tell me, you know, this one is in Arkansas, and I would go online and I would find the like I would go to the International Dialects of English Archive, and I would find Arkansas, and I'd be like, okay, how can I sound like Arkansas? And I put in way too much like backstory and research into this.

I'm sure no one else did it. This is literally an acting gig. It was like an acting gig. Yeah. But but it was so I mean, sometimes they were it it it like hurt my heart. Like they would have us like sometimes they would say, okay, yeah, they would have like a little meeting with us on the phone. The DJ would be like, okay, so who's playing the guy who's playing the girl? All right, okay. Um, so you can we'll we'll bleep it out. So you just go ahead and like curse at each other, and then I want you to just like get into it, just like rip into each other. And so we would like this person that you've never met, you like heard their voice voice over the phone, and then you had to like at six in the morning, screaming, like my neighbors are like ready to call the police, screaming, being like, I trusted you, you ruined my life, like everything just why do I like vision you doing this in your railroad apartment?

I know that's what I did. Like I did full commitment, like full out, no marking. Yeah, yeah. It's like I'd have to tell my wife, I'd be like, hey, I'm uh I have to go, I have to go scream at a stranger in the next room. So just just try and stay asleep. To try to stay asleep, yeah. And I'm in the next room just being like, I yeah, it's it was it was bad. Wow, I love that story. We never know. You might have to play a character from Arkansas one day, and then you'll have that um in you already. You have that research in your body already. Well, but this kind of ruins the magic of like I know the like the more of it all. You know, and I'll like I'll I'll like be in a cab or something and I'll hear someone listening to one of these things, and I'm like, uh War of the Roses, man.

Um likely story. And then I listen, I'm like, how are they gonna do? Because I know these people don't know each other. Do they sound like a real couple? Yeah, you're like rating them on a scale one percent. No, but that's so cool. And so you said you started doing started with stand-up and in your career, and we did a little research, and you've done Broadway, of course, and TV and film, you had a Tony Award nomination. Can you just tell us a little bit about like where your journey started? Like how you got into performing.

[29:00] Steven Boyer: I was uh I was like a I was like a uh crazy child. Go on. It was like a I was an insane hyperactive kid who always like did impressions of everyone and everything that I saw on TV. I love that. Like I feel like you know, Looney Tunes cartoons kind of taught me my early acting, early acting technique. Um my parents like channeled my energy by being like, oh, there's auditions for this community theater show, so let's just put them, let's put them on the stage. And I I loved it, and I you know, I'm from Columbus, Ohio, and so limited casting pool. When they I think when community theaters and the like one equity theater at the time in Columbus found out that there was like a 10-year-old that does accents and and can sing and is really into like comedic timing.

I was I was I was suddenly in like two and three shows at once. I'd be like in a show and rehearsing for another show at the same time. That's so cool though. And uh and then trying to do like the school show too, which was always like come on, guys. This is not you're like we get more professional. At that point, I'm like I'm like this uh I gotta get out of here by four o'clock because I gotta get to school. Um you were like booked and busy, yeah. I was booked and busy. I was like the bookingist child actor in Columbus, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. And then um, but then I I went to Juilliard and like, you know, learned to do something more than just like imitate people. And uh and then I got out of school and I like didn't work for like I I I actually I I booked a Broadway show at the booth for my first gig out of out of school. It was it was I'm not rappaport with um Judd Hirsch and Ben Vareen as two octogenarians on a park bench and I mug them at knife point.

[31:32] Steven Boyer: Wow, we have a really big stream of mugging on this episode. I I played so many muggers and drug addicts and drug dealers, and like I don't it just became like my bread and butter was playing assholes and villains. You gotta lean into the bread and butter, you know. You know. We talked about this on our last episode. Like you gotta lean into where you're gonna get the check to then do your like passion and art. Yeah. So that's almost like surviving and survival chopping. That's right. That's right. You know? Yeah, you you gotta survive. Wait, so you said you booked uh Broadway. Yeah, right out of school. Wow. And and I thought this is gonna be a breeze. And then I like didn't work for like a decade.

And I just and I kept thinking, oh, the next thing's right around the corner, it's gonna be any minute now. Uh because I was I was on Broadway, and no, I didn't work for like another 10 years. I had a job here and there, but it was just like it was it was rough, and uh I was like maxing out credit cards and it was bad. And then I started doing stand-up because I I was just so like I I was just I needed to like get up in front of people, uh and do something. And so I you know, bought some books, learned how to write some material, and started doing that.

[33:06] Steven Boyer: Eat some nachos. I went on the road with another comic for like four months, and uh and actually like managed to pay my rent as a comedian, which was nice. Um, but I ultimately didn't want to be a comedian, I wanted to be an actor. Right. Sure. So uh I think I then I think I I got uh a little show it was directed by Maritz von Stolpnegel who directed Hand a God later on and I was like I was like yeah I I really don't work very much and he's like what he's like how is that he's like really he's like you should be working all the time and then and then he ended up like kind of like being a champion of mine and like basically casting me in in a ton of things over the next few years and um and so I was kind of able to get back on track as as an actor I love that what does Lady Gaga say it just takes one person I guess that's true.

[34:16] Steven Boyer: Takes one person with a crazy German name just takes one Moritz von Stuttgart hand of God yeah yeah look at that thank god for Marie what's his name for him thank god for you can just say Maritz that's easy to have someone oh I'm sorry Sam I'm just gonna say it's nice that it's really nice to have someone who really like believes in you and really like sees the talent in you and it's like hey, you you need to be booked and you're part of my you're part of my tribe so whatever that means I'm gonna make you part of it and I'm gonna help you get booked because you're freaking talented.

[34:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah because it's you know, it's rough to to keep on going out there when like the only thing you have is the belief in yourself.

[35:11] Steven Boyer: You're like, I know that I can do this, I know that I'm good at this, but no one else is telling you that you are. So you just it's like you're just like in a vacuum. Um you need is that person to say, hey, I think you're really good to be like, shit, yes, I am. What I've been feeling this whole time is that like the extra fuel to keep it going is super important for artists of any kind for sure to have somebody else believe in you, you know.

[35:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: What do they always say? Like, surround yourself with people who believe in you.

[35:48] Steven Boyer: But it's true. You need it, you need the survival.

[35:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: So we talked about your journey and your struggles and your decade of not working, and now you're about to be. I'm gonna like give this all positive juju. You're about to be in a hit Broadway show, KIMBERLY AKIMBO. And I just want to talk a little bit about the show and the journey of the show, and what's the whole experience been like?

[36:15] Steven Boyer: I mean, from an audience perspective, watching this, I've never seen anything like it, and it's amazing. Part one of that question is let's talk about your journey in Kimberly, and then I have a follow-up.

[36:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay.

[36:29] Steven Boyer: Um, my my journey in yeah, like how's it been? What's going on? Spill the tea.

[36:35] Steven Boyer: It's been great. I mean, I I kind of grew up doing musicals and then like sort of fell out of it for a very long time, and then didn't come back to it until uh I was I did uh Assassins with Encores, and Victoria Clark was in that, and I remember being like, oh my god, I'm I'm in a musical with Victoria Clark.

[37:04] Steven Boyer: That's so Broadway. I'd seen her, you know, in "Light in the Piazza." I was in like the third row, and I remember seeing her like at the edge of the stage singing the song while she's crying, and being like, how do you do that?

[37:24] Steven Boyer: How can you do that? How actually like no one else can do that? Yeah, like when you start bawling, it's like the first thing that goes is your voice, and she just like somehow manages to push it all out there, and I'm like, it's incredible. So I was like, I this is it. This is this is this is the this is the best time I'm ever gonna have in a musical because Victoria Clark's in it. I'm I'm you know, and that was Assassins, and that ran, you know, for a week because it's Encores, and then KIMBERLY AKIMBO happens, and they're like Victoria Clark is the is Kim, and you're gonna be her dad. You're gonna be her dad, and uh so it's it's it was amazing. I mean, it was kind of like and then to hear that we're going to Broadway, it was like a it was like my my 15, 16 year old self was like jumping for joy.

Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, we're gonna make, you know, we're we we might record an album, yeah. You know, so exciting and so well deserved. It was uh it it was it was really exciting, and then you know, we put it up at the Atlantic and it really did feel it really did feel different. It felt like it felt different from what else is out there. I mean, first of all, it's like it's not like based on a movie, you know. It's original, right? It's original. Can you tell us a little bit about it for those who don't know? It's well, it's based on the play by David Lindsay Bear that uh I think ran in the early 2000s off Broadway, and it was like an early uh big hit for him. Um and Janine Tessori does the music and uh and David writes the book and the lyrics and they they'd worked together before.

Um, and they kept I think they did they did Shrek together. And ever since then they were like they really like got along like gangbusters, and they're like, we need to find something that we want to do for ourselves. And uh Janine was like, Hey, this play, KIMBERLY AKIMBO, this play of yours, David. I think I think this is a musical. He's like, uh, I don't know if it's a musical. He's like, I don't know if it sings. But then Janine was like, it's definitely it's a musical, let's work on it. And they did workshops of it for um uh you know, the the way that musicals work. Janine says it takes seven years to make a musical. And we had a two-year break because of COVID, but it worked out right.

Just seven years. Yeah. That feels like school probably felt like seven in its own. Yeah. I mean, but they did tons of uh workshops and things, and um and it went through a lot of different changes, and then uh it it even went through changes between The Atlantic and Broadway. Um so you know, the show you're gonna see, if you saw it off Broadway, it's I'm I'm really curious as to uh what changes are going to kind of like register with people. Yeah, because it's like the the thrust of the entire story and and the the vibe of everything is definitely the same, but there's just like tiny little surgical changes that uh change that make like a big impact for like characters and for storylines, but I'm just wondering if people are going to see it that have seen it before and register those changes, or if they're or if they're gonna be so seamless that it just brings you into the world so much that you're just gonna be on the ride and you're not even you're just gonna be enjoying yourself too much to even you know think about the yeah technical aspect of theater making.

[41:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right. I can't wait. This show, like hello listeners, go get your ticket now while you can, because I feel like once this opens and people are starting to talk about it, I I really think it's gonna blow up. And I don't know if that's like the theater nerd in me, being like, I love this so much. We're gonna see.

[41:54] Steven Boyer: Um the follow-up question too about your journey with this show is you mentioned you're playing Victoria Clark's dad, and I don't want to give like major spoilers to everyone. Oh. But can you talk about that? Because when I saw it, I really she was 16. Like, and and you were her dad. And it was like not not an inch of like pretend there. I mean, it is all freaking pretend. But you know what I mean? It was so real and what? Nothing is real. Yeah. I imagine that that was a challenging process, right? So can you can you talk about that a little bit? You know, that aspect of it was not so challenging because that's it's kind of all on that's kind of all on that's all Vicky. I that's all Victoria Clark because she you know, she came in here into the show doing knowing that you know she needed to be 16 in in the body of a uh in the body of an older woman.

And she that all came from her. It was not hard to to think of her as my daughter because she was just acting like a teenage girl. You know, her the the tone of her voice, the the rhythm of her speech, the way that she moves, and everything was it was like she was, you know, the awkward teen that that is the new kid in school and hasn't is trying to make a friend, and um so like the the strength of her characterization made it made it very easy to for you to just slip into death, yeah. And also I it it came at a strange time in my life because um for a number of reasons. I'd I'd just I'd just become a father myself when we were doing it at the Atlantic, which just really like just deepened everything for me and for the character.

And uh and then you know, there's themes of living living your life for today because we don't know how much time we all have. And uh during the course of the run one uh one of my parents had uh an accident and got and got very sick. And so it immediately it was my my father. My father uh became very sick during uh the run at the Atlantic, and I'm my character is dressed like my father from the the late 80s through the 90s. I'm wear I'm wearing like you know the tan windbreaker dad jacket that he wore for a decade, and the white reebox that he mowed the lawn in. And like it's it's Sarah Lux, our costume designer made it's like the 90s are her her sweet spot. Um it so it there was all these strange this confluence of things in my life that were happening.

It's like becoming a father, uh facing the prospect of you know your parents' mortality and uh that all just folded into the show and just deepened everything. Um so it became kind of like a cathartic experience to do the show, and it also became kind of like a little more painful than you wanted it to be. Right. Um, but it's uh it's uh but luckily the show is also hilariously funny, so it's just a joy to go to work every day, yeah, because we get to laugh and hear the audience laugh. And that's what I love about the show. It feels like it's the it's the show that the audience like is having the best time, they're laughing, they're like the music is is making them want to dance, and they're just like in peals of hilarious laughter, and then like a just a moment or a line like will just weeping your heart and then tears.

[46:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, a hundred percent. I have a I I keep talking about myself on this show, sorry, but when I left Kimberly the first time, I took a selfie of my face and I was just sobbing. You just can't help it. Like, I don't even know why. I really don't know why. It is a magical, beautiful show. Congratulations. Everyone run to see the show. Can you please show us the hat?

[47:00] Steven Boyer: Oh yeah, yeah, for our viewers. Okay, look at the swag, guys. This I mean, actually, I I'm sorry. This is not for sale. This is uh this is Victoria Clark made up these hats for us for the Atlantic opening. This is and um it'll be at the Broadway flea market in 10 years, yeah. Someone'll get rid of it oh my god that will be my survival job. I'll be like, these are my old programs you want the hat okay like he just looks like like a like an old guy just had a vision of you like old like in a cloak like at the flea market in a cloak what is he uh oh a wizard like I don't know the way your body language just wasn't the voice I just see you like in a cloak like in the corner at the flea market whatever Samantha thinks very highly of you Steven as soon as I get as soon as I get off this podcast I'm gonna go put on my cloak to us on the Instagram to promote the episode that's hilarious so I want to switch gears a little bit okay and I want to know if you have because you've been working in this indice for a long time do you have a dream role or collaboration that you're like been eyeing and something that's like or a person you want to work with that you're like I have to do this at some point in my career that's hard.

[48:29] Steven Boyer: That's a heavy one right well because I the thing is like talking about like a dream role is tough because my dream was always to do new new works new production yeah to like originate a character and so to talk about like a dream part or a dream role it's it's it's always it it's always something that has already been done that you can point to and say that part in that show and for me the dream is I don't even know what the show is yet you know it's like I I want to to to read a script or meet a writer or meet a director that that just understands me I mean like it's like it's like how hand of God came about it's like Rob Askins just kind of like wrote this thing and was like hey you want you want to do it it has a puppet in it I'm like sure I'm like I I do a little puppet stuff so yeah let's let's do it and then we just end it's like and then it ended up just being this full collaboration for like years that like went to three different theaters um and so like that scenario which hardly ever happens is really the dream yeah um and so it's it's hard it's hard to know if that would happen again I really hope that it does but uh it's like you know lightning striking like finding a writer that actually writes something that just fits your strengths so well yeah well we're gonna send you all the good vibe that that happens you know we're gonna manifest that manifest that for you with the cloak yeah with the cloak put on a cloak manifestation light some candles yeah do a little we guess some some stones which come under your pillow yeah very good is there any any any books?

[50:46] Steven Boyer: I mean, I'm sure you're just freaking busy in rehearsals, but like when you do have your probably one day off or whatever, is there any kind of art that's fulfilling you right now? TV shows, books, comics. You know what? Uh you know what I've been doing a lot lately? Is uh I really like to um I like to learn new things, learn new skills, right? Yeah I feel like if I'm if I ever feel like something is off, I can I'm like, oh I'm not I'm not actively like pursuing learning a new thing right now. So I'm learning to play the drums right now. Which is so cool. Very I like I uh like set up like a little like a little, you know, like the tiniest drum kit I could find. Uh and I am it's it's it's very it's like therapy a little bit because you it's very active and you're you're you know you're hitting things.

[51:53] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[51:56] Steven Boyer: But it's also musical and it's it's making me like listen to music differently, and um it's something that I've kind of always wanted to do. I like learning new instruments and I and I've never uh gone down the path of like you know profession. So I I've I'm playing the drums.

[52:16] Jason A. Coombs: It sounds like you are someone who likes to make a lot of noise.

[52:19] Steven Boyer: I too with the drums with the with the fake seat dang screams. Like you sound like a loud guy.

[52:27] Jason A. Coombs: You sound like we're out of the railroad now, so you can hit those drums.

[52:33] Steven Boyer: Yeah. That's great. I always wanted to learn uh an instrument, but I used to play the violin. Here I am talking about myself again.

[52:41] Jason A. Coombs: You can pick it back up.

[52:44] Steven Boyer: Yeah it's never too late I think get a guitar and a chord chart and it's like honestly it's one of the best instruments to teach yourself because you can play songs you know very quickly yeah I know I th I was doing that like 10 years ago and I'm like damn I should have kept it up instead of quitting my damn fingers are hurting I was trying to teach myself guitar and then I just quit and I'm like damn if I would have kept going I would have been like a pro by now well get a get a get a classical guitar the nylon string guitars are are way more forgiving to learn on because they don't cut your fingers up like the steel string guitars.

[53:19] Jason A. Coombs: That's my tip that there we go pick it back pick it back up Jason and then we can make a new survival jobs theme song okay yeah you can have the survival jobs band and you come and you play the drums.

[53:32] Steven Boyer: Yeah 10 years I'll be ready yeah 10 years this is so amazing thank you for joining us thank you everyone needs to go see Kimberly we have one more question and then we're gonna play a super fun game to end the show and I think you're gonna love it.

[53:50] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Um so obviously we talked a lot about survival jobs we have listeners who are looking for tips and advice if you have any advice for anybody who's listening to this that may feel stuck in a survival job and not really really having their outlet for art maybe feeling lost flatlining.

[54:11] Steven Boyer: Yeah um I mean it's like it's like I I mentioned before, like you the the only thing that you that you have to sustain you sometimes is is your belief that like it's almost it's almost like your secret your secret that you carry with you. You're like I am I am great at this and other people just don't know it yet.

[54:37] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[54:37] Steven Boyer: And sometimes that's all you have is your own like little flame that you're like I'm not gonna let this flame blow out because I know that I know that it's there, and someday somebody's gonna give me a chance to show it. But it's uh it's hard. It's hard.

[55:06] Jason A. Coombs: Facts as Jason says, yeah, facts.

[55:10] Steven Boyer: The belief in the manifestation of it all, you know.

[55:14] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[55:14] Steven Boyer: Some days it's I feel like it's harder than others. Like some days I'm you know, for me personally, I'm like, oh yeah, I can really do this. Damn, you know.

[55:22] Jason A. Coombs: I'm tired.

[55:23] Steven Boyer: Yeah. Yeah, it's tiring. But you know, life is tiring.

[55:29] Jason A. Coombs: That's right.

[55:30] Steven Boyer: Exactly. It's like it's all that is right. Everything's like even when you get the thing, it's like I I mean, we just got out of week two of tech, and and believe me, I am very, very tired.

[55:45] Jason A. Coombs: Let me show you this that I just discovered.

[55:48] Steven Boyer: Uh-huh.

[55:49] Jason A. Coombs: This is not an ad, I wish. Aha, sparkling water.

[55:52] Steven Boyer: Oh my.

[55:53] Jason A. Coombs: It's like sparkling water with caffeine.

[55:56] Steven Boyer: Oh, I want one right now.

[55:58] Jason A. Coombs: Incredible. Because you know what? Sometimes too much coffee makes me like get so much agita and like jittery. This is a nice, like bubbly little bit of caffeine.

[56:09] Steven Boyer: So there's this, there's the bent come to the stage door. There's the um caffeinated uh there's the caffeinated vitamin water, the yellow vitamin water.

[56:22] Steven Boyer: Oh, energy, right? My favorite.

[56:23] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that's mine too.

[56:25] Steven Boyer: I'm just like sometimes you don't want coffee. You're like, I need something cold and sweet.

[56:31] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[56:32] Steven Boyer: And that will like make me go that one.

[56:35] Jason A. Coombs: So it's so healthy getting your vitamins, you know.

[56:38] Steven Boyer: Oh shit.

[56:39] Jason A. Coombs: Wow, then you're so healthy.

[56:42] Steven Boyer: I am so healthy. Let me tell you more about soft drinks.

[56:46] Jason A. Coombs: Come on, let's go. Maybe they'll sponsor survival jobs.

[56:49] Steven Boyer: We love that. No, but thank you for sharing that. And I think it's it's so important to have to be surrounded by that community to keep going. I think that's the biggest takeaway I've gotten from you today.

[57:00] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[57:01] Steven Boyer: Thank you. Keep going. Keep going and pick up the drums. Um, so we're gonna end with a game, like we said a million times already. And we thought since you went to Juilliard, we thought it'd be fun to play a game called Juilliard or not.

[57:16] Jason A. Coombs: How original.

[57:18] Steven Boyer: I couldn't think of Juilliard or something else. I've been waiting my whole life for this game.

[57:24] Jason A. Coombs: Well, let's see how you do. Jay, you know what we haven't done in a while? Cue the music.

[57:30] Steven Boyer: Cue the music.

[57:32] Jason A. Coombs: The music. Okay, so we're something post. We're gonna list off names of actors, and you're gonna say, Juilliard, if you think they went to Juilliard or not, if you think that they didn't.

[57:45] Steven Boyer: If I don't get 100% on this, I'm gonna I'm gonna feel very disappointed. Are you ready?

[57:51] Jason A. Coombs: I'm ready. Jay, you want to take the first?

[57:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Jessica Chastain.

[57:56] Steven Boyer: Juilliard.

[57:58] Jason A. Coombs: Correct.

[57:59] Steven Boyer: Adam Driver.

[58:01] Steven Boyer: Juilliard.

[58:02] Jason A. Coombs: Correct.

[58:03] Steven Boyer: I went to school with both of those people.

[58:07] Jason A. Coombs: Oh gosh.

[58:12] Steven Boyer: Marishka.

[58:16] Jason A. Coombs: Not.

[58:17] Steven Boyer: Good.

[58:18] Jason A. Coombs: Danielle Brooks.

[58:20] Steven Boyer: Juilliard.

[58:22] Jason A. Coombs: Mr. Brad Pitt.

[58:24] Steven Boyer: Not.

[58:24] Jason A. Coombs: Robin De Jesus.

[58:30] Steven Boyer: Juilliard.

[58:35] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, sorry. You're on a streak.

[58:37] Steven Boyer: You got it back though.

[58:38] Jason A. Coombs: Sarah Marez.

[58:40] Steven Boyer: Juilliard.

[58:42] Jason A. Coombs: Correct.

[58:43] Steven Boyer: Chrissy Teegan.

[58:45] Jason A. Coombs: Not.

[58:47] Steven Boyer: Not you're right.

[58:50] Jason A. Coombs: Ellen Pompeo.

[58:52] Steven Boyer: Not.

[58:53] Jason A. Coombs: Correct.

[58:54] Steven Boyer: Viola Davis.

[58:56] Jason A. Coombs: Juilliard.

[58:59] Steven Boyer: And Patty Lapone.

[59:02] Jason A. Coombs: Juilliard.

[59:03] Steven Boyer: Correct. That's really good. You got like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

[59:09] Jason A. Coombs: Robin is so happy that you thought he went to Julia.

[59:14] Steven Boyer: I can't wait to tell him.

[59:17] Jason A. Coombs: Robin didn't go to school.

[59:18] Steven Boyer: He just.

[59:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[59:21] Steven Boyer: Wow. If you listen to the first episode of Survival Jobs a podcast, you can learn a little bit about his history.

[59:29] Jason A. Coombs: Second episode. Our first guest.

[59:32] Steven Boyer: Yeah.

[59:33] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. He just he just got booked and blessed right away.

[59:33] Steven Boyer: And blessed.

[59:38] Jason A. Coombs: Nice. But oh man, Steven. Thank you.

[59:40] Steven Boyer: Oh, sorry. Are we gonna do that? Sorry. Go ahead.

[59:47] Jason A. Coombs: Now I was gonna say, um, where can everybody follow you if they're not following you already on the social medias to keep up to date with all the good stuff happening?

[59:55] Steven Boyer: Uh I am on Instagram and Twitter at Steven Boyer500.

[1:00:03] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, 5000.

[1:00:04] Steven Boyer: There you go.

[1:00:05] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[1:00:06] Steven Boyer: There's no N. It's just Steven Boyer.

[1:00:09] Jason A. Coombs: Steven Boyer 5000.

[1:00:11] Steven Boyer: Which sometimes gets uh people are like, I can't do it. I found Steven Boyer 5000, and you're trying to sell me knives or something like that.

[1:00:21] Jason A. Coombs: And I'm like, that's not me.

[1:00:23] Steven Boyer: That's not me.

[1:00:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[1:00:26] Steven Boyer: That you don't want to talk about.

[1:00:27] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[1:00:28] Steven Boyer: That's right. Do you know the Instagram for the the show for Kimberly?

[1:00:31] Steven Boyer: I think it's Akimbo musical.

[1:00:33] Jason A. Coombs: Yes. So follow it. And if you guys are tuning in, because you're Steven Steven fan, Steven Steven, and you don't follow us, follow us at Survival Jobs Pod on Instagram and Twitter, on Facebook at survival jobs a podcast. Shoot us an email at survival jobs pod at gmail.com.

[1:00:47] Steven Boyer: Thank you, Steven.

[1:00:54] Jason A. Coombs: By the way, at the end of the episode, I have this question. Do you like going by Steven or Steven?

[1:00:59] Steven Boyer: Uh I get this question a lot, and I I know that there are people that call me Steven. And most people I think call me Steven. I know there are people that do call me Steven, and in my brain, I don't even like I I don't even register. It's it's it's it's all the same to me.

[1:01:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[1:01:21] Steven Boyer: Yeah. You know?

[1:01:22] Jason A. Coombs: Well great. I'm glad we we saved that for the end.

[1:01:24] Steven Boyer: Yeah, because it's it's such an interesting answer.

[1:01:27] Jason A. Coombs: For it. But thank you so much. This was amazing. Everyone go see KIMBERLY AKIMBO. What theater is it at?

[1:01:35] Steven Boyer: The booth.

[1:01:37] Jason A. Coombs: Back to where it started.

[1:01:39] Steven Boyer: The booth circle.

[1:01:41] Jason A. Coombs: Wow, amazing. I love that. Thank you so much.

[1:01:44] Steven Boyer: All right, we'll see you there.

[1:01:46] Jason A. Coombs: See you at the booth.

[1:01:47] Steven Boyer: Meet us at the booth, guys.