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[0:03] Jason A. Coombs: Welcome, survivors, to Survival Jobs, a podcast.

[0:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: I am your host, Jason A. Coombs, and this is your other host.

[0:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: I guess that way, Samantha Tuozzolo.

[0:13] Jason A. Coombs: I was like, Did you want to say it?

[0:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: I should have let you say it. Say it.

[0:18] Jason A. Coombs: Say your name.

[0:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Say your name.

[0:19] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[0:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Samantha Tuozzolo.

[0:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yes. And we're coming in hot in collaboration with Broadway World.

[0:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: We are.

[0:29] Jason A. Coombs: And this is what, is this episode 55, Samantha Tuozzolo?

[0:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Am I wrong?

[0:34] Jason A. Coombs: I believe you're right.

[0:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, I believe you're correct.

[0:37] Jason A. Coombs: 55.

[0:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: 55.

[0:39] Jason A. Coombs: Do you know that like stupid video that was going around and it was like years ago? And they were like shwiggity shua sh fifty-five.

[0:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Schwantin teen.

[0:51] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. And no.

[0:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: How to camp.

[1:00] Jason A. Coombs: And I will tell you how to do it faster than you can say.

[1:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Poop-dee-poop deep.

[1:06] Jason A. Coombs: Don't know.

[1:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sounds cute. My cousins and I, shout out to my cousin Brittany, who I think listens. She'll laugh so hard if she listens.

[1:14] Jason A. Coombs: We used to laugh so hard about this stupid video, and it was like 55.

[1:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: So happy episode 55.

[1:22] Jason A. Coombs: Happy episode 55.

[1:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Shout out to Brittany. Here we go. Um, temperature check. How you feeling?

[1:27] Jason A. Coombs: You know what? I am in a fantastic mood today, and I don't know why.

[1:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: She looks so pretty.

[1:35] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you. For those who can see her, she looks gorgeous today. I mean, you always look gorgeous, but today, like you look at it.

[1:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: You know what? Thank you so much. We do have our rough days when we record this, and I'm like not looking great.

[1:47] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know. I'm just feeling good. I'm just feeling good. I did a little workout. I've been like working hard. I traveled a bit. I don't know. I'm feeling good. And my temperature check is I've been feeling good. What is yours?

[2:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I am feeling good that I'm in the room with you. You make me feel good.

[2:04] Jason A. Coombs: So that is sweet.

[2:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're sweet. Um, and I do want to say something. Well, it was Halloween time. Let's talk about that really quick. Happy Halloween, right?

[2:14] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you so much. Happy Halloween.

[2:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: A couple days before. We're coming out on Halloween weekend.

[2:19] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, I don't want to give any spoilers, but here I go. I am let's see if it happens. Shout out to Nzinga, our past guest. She and I are supposed to dress up as Cher and Dion from Clueless.

[2:32] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Now I have ordered my costume. And Nzinga has still not confirmed if she's placed her order.

[2:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: So we'll see if I'm solo Cher in this yellow plaid schoolgirl outfit or if she will be with me. So we're just gonna have to see what's gonna happen. Um, I have my stuff coming, and I'm returning it all to Amazon right after, just letting you know. But I think it'll be fun.

[2:59] Jason A. Coombs: Um, anyway, that'll be fun. So we're gonna see if I was asking you a question. I was on mute. I was asking you.

[3:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I was like, I'm like something's going on here, but I don't know if I should just keep it going. Is Jason okay?

[3:11] Jason A. Coombs: So that's the thing. Do I have to get a blonde wig?

[3:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: I mean, you don't have to, but isn't she blonde?

[3:19] Jason A. Coombs: Well, she is, and we're going to like a costume contest dinner. So I bet you if I get the wig, we'll definitely win.

[3:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: All right, all right, all right. I'll get the wig, I'll get the wig.

[3:29] Jason A. Coombs: Get the wig, yeah. Nice, Jason.

[3:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: I just love Halloween so much. It's a fun time. Not even for the dressing up, but I do love Halloween movies.

[3:39] Jason A. Coombs: So this past weekend I was hanging out with my mom and I was like, let's watch a Halloween movie. We usually go to Practical Magic. It's like my favorite movie of all time, not only at Halloween, all the time.

[3:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: And she was like, let's watch Witches of Eastwick. And I was like, oh, I've never seen it. She was mortified. She said, How are you, my daughter? And you've never watched this.

[3:59] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[4:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: WB11.

[4:05] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, before it became the CW. That's how old we are.

[4:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: I remember that.

[4:11] Jason A. Coombs: That's pretty funny. With the frog. Remember that frog?

[4:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, there's no frog.

[4:16] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[4:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, the frog.

[4:20] Jason A. Coombs: I thought you were talking about the movie. I was like the frog in the movie.

[4:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, I know the frog you're talking about in WB11.

[4:26] Jason A. Coombs: The top hat.

[4:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. Anyway. Really, really dating.

[4:33] Jason A. Coombs: I remember that.

[4:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Throwback. Anyway, Witches of Eastwick was an excellent, excellent film. Jack Nicholson was so good in it.

[4:43] Jason A. Coombs: I wonder if he has gotten any Oscar nominations or anything for this.

[4:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: But it was great. It was nice to watch. It was really witchy and it got me in the spirits. It got me in my witchy mood.

[4:57] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I love Halloween. It's always like I love scary movies and I love the decorations. And I feel like I don't ever really dress up. Like last year I did Tom Cruise Risky Business just because it was like a button-down shirt and underwear.

[5:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I was like, oh, really easy. Um, but this year I actually got a costume too. Um I am doing um us. I'm gonna do uh the the freaking people from Us. Do you know the movie Us?

[5:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, the Doppelgangers.

[5:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I got like a red jumpsuit, got me some gloves, I got me the scissors. I can't wait. Except I have to know where to freaking really go. So here we go.

[5:36] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, just like I got five on it.

[5:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, Jason, I love your sweatshirt.

[5:44] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you. Um, I got this from a musician named Colton who had a film at the music video at the film fest, and he's selling these. I'll put the link in the bio. He's a really great musician, and he's making these really nice t-shirts. I think part of it goes to like a charity, and he's always uplifting like black voices. So I wanted to wear it today.

[6:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: And Colton Harris, I believe his last name is, and I'll put it in our show notes. So yeah.

[6:08] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, Jason, it's so nice.

[6:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that. It's like a heart, it's a black threesher for a nice big heart because you know we love everybody. I should have watched something Halloween-ish, but that looks like that looks like the Art of Kindness podcast would love that sweatshirt.

[6:22] Jason A. Coombs: Shout out to Robert Peter Paul.

[6:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, he's getting married in two weeks.

[6:30] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. But before we love him, before we jump over to our guest, I did want to say, because I'm a huge Christina Aguilera fan, as if anybody who knows me knows, and it's the 20th anniversary of her album Stripped, which was like had like Dirty on there and Fighter and Beautiful, like all those really classics.

[6:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god, Dirty.

[6:53] Jason A. Coombs: It's about combo.

[7:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: 20 years. How can that be? Like, how could that be 20 years ago?

[7:04] Jason A. Coombs: So same way we know the frog had the top hat. That's how it's so weird, right? That feels like it was yesterday.

[7:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Even the frog with the top hat feels a little bit longer than yesterday, but it doesn't feel like it was, you know, such a long time.

[7:18] Jason A. Coombs: Um, but yeah, so shout out to that. And wow, I do know you love your Christina. She just released a video for Beautiful, like a new video that like um has like different people who were accepting themselves.

[7:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's what the song is about, right? Finding the beauty in yourself and and not you know, relying on other people to to make you feel good about yourself, you know, finding that inner beauty in yourself and whatnot.

[7:42] Jason A. Coombs: So the new video is really cute, and yeah, maybe it'll show a little bit of it here.

[7:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I am beautiful, never single way, is words came and bring me down.

[7:56] Jason A. Coombs: No, no, don't you bring me down today.

[8:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: That was one of my all-time favorite songs, yeah, and then the video was so groundbreaking because it was you know 20 years ago, and it had like an LGBT, like a gay couple kissing, which was like controversial at the time, and it had like a trans woman, and it had like a black girl who was like having an eating disorder.

[8:22] Jason A. Coombs: It was just really groundbreaking. I feel like sometimes Christina doesn't get the respect that she deserves as a trailblazer, and who was doing stuff at the time when it was like you know, the George Bush conservative era, and she was like for sexuality, and she was standing up for women's rights, she was all about women's empowerment.

[8:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: What am I not supposed to have an opinion? Should I be glad to speak? Because I'm a woman, call me a bitch girls. I speak what's on my mind.

[8:44] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, it's easier for you to swallow if I satisfy.

[8:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: When you know she was a feminist when that word was like not supposed to be sexual, swear word, yeah, yeah, a curse, a curse, right?

[9:02] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, not everybody's talk about Evan.

[9:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, Jason. I'm so excited for everyone to listen to this episode today with Evan Alexander Smith, aka Evan Alexander Smith, you know.

[9:16] Jason A. Coombs: Um, yeah, so yeah, you I we talk about this a lot, but I'm so grateful for this podcast because we meet so many amazing people that who knows if our paths would have ever crossed with Evan if it weren't for Survival Jobs.

[9:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: But Jason, you didn't uh end up ever going to Little Shop, huh?

[9:37] Jason A. Coombs: Anyway, I've been trying to see me and my friend Sarah, shout out to Sarah. We've been trying to see Little Shop since January of last year when there was a blizzard, and we couldn't go, and then they wouldn't give us like a call, like they wouldn't like reimburse us, and they were like, Oh, you gotta call in, you gotta call in a day of a it's been a really crazy process, and we tried like four times.

[10:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: So if people who work at Little Shop, if you can just like hook a brother up, already paid for the tickets.

[10:06] Jason A. Coombs: Listen, listen, help him out. We're almost coming to the year mark, guys. It was supposed to be in January, mid-January. It was an early birthday present for myself. I spent 150 dollars on those tickets. I just want to see my favorite musicals. I could have freaking saw Evan in it.

[10:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: I am left so many times over the past year, but anyway, yikes.

[10:28] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, it's I digress. So Evan, Evan was in Little Shop of Horrors, which you did not get to see, but you would have, and you're going to. Now he's going to get now.

[10:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: He's gonna be in the New York Theatre Workshop production of Merrily We Roll Along.

[10:43] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, with former Survival Jobs guest, Krystal Joy Brown.

[10:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: And like what an iconic cast.

[10:51] Jason A. Coombs: I know. And you'll hear all about it in the interview. Um, it really is an iconic cast. We make a little bit of jokes about it.

[11:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, wanting to take the bio.

[11:04] Jason A. Coombs: Sure.

[11:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, the whole thing.

[11:07] Jason A. Coombs: No, yeah, yeah.

[11:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: I think for Halloween, I think for Halloween, you get to do the whole bio.

[11:15] Jason A. Coombs: Sure, sure.

[11:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Trick or treat.

[11:19] Jason A. Coombs: Trigger treat.

[11:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's your trick.

[11:22] Jason A. Coombs: Is it a trick or is it a treat?

[11:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: I feel like it's a treat to read his bio.

[11:26] Jason A. Coombs: That leaves it up to you.

[11:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: It leaves it up to me. Okay. Evan is a classically trained actor born and raised in the suburbs of Toronto, Canada. After graduating, he had the pleasure of performing in some of Canada's, well, in some of Canada's best commercial and regional theaters.

[11:41] Jason A. Coombs: In the fall of 2013, he moved to New York City. He considers himself very lucky to have had the opportunity to work with the incredible community of generous artists and creatives on Broadway, national tours, and regional theaters across the country.

[11:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: And he loves pizza and dogs.

[11:58] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, actually, I shouldn't stick. I love pizza too. And I like dogs.

[12:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Jason, I was on mute when you did the bio, and I started crying laughing because you said something and you said Broadway.

[12:12] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, you know I love saying it Broadway.

[12:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know, I know. Oh guys, we love Broadway.

[12:18] Jason A. Coombs: We do love Broadway. We even called Mr. Broadway in our episode today. Guys, we are so silly today, and this episode's so fun, and yeah, enjoy.

[12:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Enjoy it. Enjoy Evan, you know, follow him, support him. And if you're one of the lucky people who got tickets to Merrily, congratulations because we're sold out.

[12:38] Jason A. Coombs: Congrats.

[12:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy Halloween.

[12:42] Jason A. Coombs: Awesome.

[12:43] Evan Alexander Smith: Thank you for being on Survival Jobs: A Podcast.

[12:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

[12:51] Jason A. Coombs: We're so curious to have you. And we're just talking a little bit about, you know, Crystal, um, our friend, and your cast mate.

[12:59] Evan Alexander Smith: So that's cool that you listened to that episode and you're like super pumped to be here.

[13:03] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah. No, I mean I listened to that interview with Crystal probably, uh, two weeks before we started rehearsals. So it was a great way to like get to know somebody in the, I don't know, I didn't have any of their friends in the show yet, or I do now, but before we started rehearsals, so it was nice to get to know somebody sort of virtually a little bit first.

[13:18] Jason A. Coombs: And you guys are so lovely, so oh my god, Jason. Look at what we made like a get to know you thing, also, as well as a talk show, as well as a podcast.

[13:29] Jason A. Coombs: Um also Jason, I would like to thank you for using the whole name. Evan, is that do you like going by Evan Alexander Smith, or do you just go Evan Alexander Smith? What do you do?

[13:37] Evan Alexander Smith: Just Evan Smith. I when I joined, people can call me whatever they want. When I joined Canadian Equity, uh, like gosh, 13 years, 14 years ago, whenever it was, um, there was another Evan Alexander Smith, and this they said, like, on the spot, pick something right now, and just off the top of my head, I threw my middle name in there. Um, I'm sure I could have gotten creative with initials and like changing the orders of things or picking something like totally wild, but um no, that's that's all it is. It's like a union thing.

[14:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: You know what? I love it, and you want to know something about me if we're gonna talk. Please, I am Samantha Tootsolo, and when I got my equity card, there were no other Samantha Tootsillos, but I felt the need to put Samantha Don Tootsolo just to be an asshole. So my equity card is Samantha Don Tutzlow.

[14:31] Jason A. Coombs: So Jason always does welcome me as that.

[14:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Guys, I have something really important to say before we talk before we start talking survival jobs and all about Evan. Happy Halloween. And I want everyone to just take a look at this sweatshirt.

[14:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: Do you get it, Evan?

[14:48] Evan Alexander Smith: Yes.

[14:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you. I don't know if this is coming through on the microphone, but that is hearty applause. And for you people who are only listening, I have a winner Fred Sanderson sweatshirt on that says, Dust Thou Comprehend. And I really felt the need. Okay, enough about me and Halloween and Winterfred, Evan. I'm so excited. I know we were chatting a little bit before about Merrily We Roll Along. Am I okay? Merrily, we roll along. But congratulations, this is huge.

[15:19] Evan Alexander Smith: Thank you. How's it been going?

[15:21] Evan Alexander Smith: Uh, it's been going incredibly right now. Uh, this is my first day off, uh, since we started. Um, my brain is is like, uh, it's been through the blender, I think this week, just trying to get everything, um, sort of fit in between my ears. Um, but it's I mean so incredible being in that room with all of those like immensely, immensely talented people. Um, it's already just such a dream. So, uh, I couldn't be more grateful.

[15:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Who are your co-stars? Shop chop it, drop it in for us for those who don't know.

[15:51] Evan Alexander Smith: Oh well, if you don't know, we have uh Lindsay Mendez, who's like unbelievable. Um, I if for fans of the show, there's a song called Now You Know, um, which which closes act one, and she sang it for us yesterday. And I think the entire room, just all of us exploded, like internally combusted. She's incredible. Um, we have Jonathan Groff is playing Frank, um, who I understudy, and we have Daniel Radcliffe playing um Charlie. Um, uh Daniel, I don't know if anybody's heard of Daniel Radcliffe.

[16:20] Jason A. Coombs: He's like, I was just gonna ask you, who is that?

[16:22] Evan Alexander Smith: This is only I think is like second or third Broadway show. Um, he's a real wizard.

[16:28] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, some kind of like honor. Is that what some flash in a pan?

[16:33] Evan Alexander Smith: Something like that. Yeah, I don't know. People seem to know who he is. He said he's a real wizard, I hear he's amazing. Um, three of them are are unbelievable. And then um, you know, we have a sort of outstanding group of people around them, um, as well Katie Rose Clark as as Beth and uh Crystal as Gussie. Uh it's you know an embarrassment of riches.

[16:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: And by the way, yourself included in that mega talent bowl. So we cannot wait to run to see that. But I imagine before your success, you probably had some survival jobs, just an assumption.

[17:10] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, so before we jump into that full fun interview, if you could describe what survival job means to you in one word, what would you say?

[17:21] Evan Alexander Smith: Oh man, without using the word survival. Um, survival job. Um, Bill's is a good one.

[17:29] Evan Alexander Smith: Bill's is a good one. Yeah, um, security, I guess, maybe. Or stability. Uh, stability is those words.

[17:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, good ones.

[17:40] Evan Alexander Smith: I guess that's the three words now. I cheated, but no, I mean, that's part of it, right? Bill is never end.

[17:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: So thinking back on your journey from Canada to the United States and performing. Do you have a survival job that you had that like that you think back on it positively impacted your career? One that you really enjoyed?

[18:01] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah. I mean, like my favorite survival job is the one that I still do when I'm not acting now, which is um I've been an audition reader for probably like every actor in New York City at this point. Um, that feels like cheating because it's not you know, waiting tables. And I did bartend for a hot second. Um, but uh the the one that I've been doing uh basically since I moved to New York is is uh working as an audition reader. Um and it's I it's like my second favorite job besides acting on stage. I really love it. Um and it has been so instrumental for me as as a performer. Um yeah, it's the best.

[18:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's amazing. By the way, it's not cheating, like it's still that's why that's why we love this show because we get to learn about so many different types of survival jobs, you know, taking you out of the like stereotypical like I'm serving until 2 a.m. and I'm miserable and sad. Like you don't have to be sad in your survival job.

[18:56] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's uh it is probably the most important thing I've done as an actor, outside of like continuing my training in a more formal way, or um any of the number of things that I'm sure we'll get to. Uh it's just to get to watch again in the same way that I'm experiencing right now with Merrily, watching all of these incredible actors doing incredible work, and even on the flip side, watching incredible actors come in with, you know, not having time to prepare and still seeing, you know, how the kernel of an idea can um become this, you know, beautiful thing over the course of, you know, three minutes in a room. Um and in the way that it totally demystifies the whole audition process.

I think like as actors, we are so used to sitting out in the hallway and like waiting for the door to open. And once you pass over that threshold, it's this scary place where you have 30 seconds or a minute or 10 minutes to, you know, uh like beg for a job, which obviously is not something we should be doing. But that's what it feels like. We we build up this sort of um very intimidating experience of it in our head. And I think being an audition reader, just being in audition rooms with with casting directors and creative teams all day for so many years now, it just helps you realize how normal everyone is, how everybody is just doing a job, how everybody in that room is rooting for you. Um and it makes the audition room a like not scary secret place. It's just a normal day workplace, which you know is something that I hope every actor gets to experience that kind of comfortability, you know.

[20:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Plus it sounds oh bad.

[20:32] Evan Alexander Smith: No, we do it every time.

[20:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: I was just gonna say because it's also like you're getting kind of like a training in a way, right? Because you're getting to perform right you're beginning to perform and then you're also in the room where it happens as cheesy as that may sound right. So you're getting to meet the people who are creating these these projects as well and getting a personal kind of connection to them. So it's like a win-win all around.

[20:55] Evan Alexander Smith: Absolutely it's I mean like I'll never forget we we were doing auditions for 1984 uh what was that? You know, five or six years ago. And Reed Bernie picked me up out of my seat and took me by the hand and brought me up and started acting like just using me as a scene partner instead of you know the guy in the corner. And it was this moment of just like, I cannot believe this is happening right now. And then you're like, yes, and yes, and exactly. And then you know those relationships, like you were saying, those relationships you build in the room with with casting directors and with creative teams. You know, it's not that I think anybody should be, you know, pursuing work as a reader to try to sort of get in through the side door or whatever, but absolutely those those relationships can be super fruitful. And I can trace Merrily We Roll Along right back to to those reading jobs and The Play That Goes Wrong. Same thing.

[21:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: My God, I love that.

[21:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. So listen, everyone, your survival job doesn't always have to suck. However, do you have any shocking stories from a survival job that maybe wasn't so fulfilling and one that you like, maybe a scary bartending story?

[22:00] Evan Alexander Smith: You know, I've been I I've been so lucky. I mean, even I was a bartender for a month, so I didn't really sort of pay my dues there. It was I it was in Toronto and my roommate had been working for that bar, and it was super sketchy, like they didn't have the money to pay for employees, so they should only hire employees who were up to the age of 25, and they had to do it through an employment service. Um, so you would go in, you would have your interview, and if they liked you, they would say, Okay, now go talk to so and so at this, you know, Toronto Employment Service Agency, where you would be approved essentially by the government, um, for the government to hire you to work at this bar.

[22:38] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, it was very strange, very like very fishy. Um, but even there, I mean, it was fine. Like I had never bartended before, and um, and uh, you know, just sort of jumped in on the deep end and then got my wisdom teeth out. And when uh I recovered from that, uh, I had my first big job in Toronto, so I didn't have to go back, which was nice.

[22:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Amazing.

[22:58] Evan Alexander Smith: Um also did that you're like they couldn't afford to have employees.

[23:03] Evan Alexander Smith: It was truly insane. It was uh, but like nice people, just very sketchy. Um dead. I worked at Costco. I got fired from Costco when I was in college.

[23:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: That was an expensive.

[23:16] Jason A. Coombs: Why'd you get fired from Costco? We need to know why.

[23:19] Evan Alexander Smith: Too many samples on the on the floor.

[23:21] Evan Alexander Smith: I wish it was like lunch hour in there every day. Um, I I was just I was not I was not a model employee, and I had kept missing work at Costco to go and be an extra in movies. Um, which is very, uh, a weird flex. Um, but I I had a background agent when I was in college, and it paid so much better. And it was mostly just me sitting around on chairs, like on the lot eating Oreos, which was like much better than going to work at Costco. Um, and finally my my manager was not happy with that arrangement anymore.

[23:54] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, and he said you have to stop calling out the day of, and I didn't do that, and um, and I was sent packing. And I have a really a long story about the day that it happened.

[24:03] Evan Alexander Smith: Uh it involves me dressing up in a suit to get fired.

[24:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, well we also had a policy at Costco. I worked, so I was I was a cashier sometimes, but I was also one of the lot boys, so I would go around collecting carts in the like dead of summer. I mean, it was fine if like the managers were good, but this one manager, um, you were supposed to wear a collared shirt, like a polo shirt anywhere you worked in the store, and nobody enforced it for the guys who worked outside because it was like a hundred degrees and you were pushing carts all day.

[24:35] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, and so uh on a lunch break that day, he'd already had, you know, he was already upset with me for the aforementioned reasons. Um, but he said, You have to go home and change on your one 30 minute break. I need you to put on a collared shirt. And I said, I don't think that that sounds reasonable. Um, and he said, Go, your your break starts now. Get get in the get walking.

[24:57] Evan Alexander Smith: So I went home and I put on like the nicest suit I had at that point, which was you know, whatever I wore to prom and uh came back like fully fully dressed in in a suit, and um literally did not. I got maybe five feet into the door, clocked in, uh, and he said, Come with me, close the door behind him.

[25:14] Evan Alexander Smith: Uh and what a jerk for making you go all the way.

[25:18] Evan Alexander Smith: He knew what he knew the end goal, and he made you go put on a suit. I mean, it made for a good story, which is, you know, I guess what all of these jobs are for, hopefully, in some sense. So I hate this manager. What is it? I don't think he stayed very long after that. I went back and visited over the holidays, and he was no longer there. So I love that you went back and visited the Costco; you got fired. Costco in Canada has the best poutine. Nobody tells you this. But when you visit Canada, I mean, it's what I grew up on. Um, you can go to like any of the number of very fancy poutine places, but nobody tops Costco. You just have to know this. Um, do you get it frozen? And then what do you like?

How are you getting it? I don't know. Have you been to like a Costco? Like you go to a Costco. So you know how they have like the hot dogs and like the pizza in America? Yes. We have the hot dogs, the pizza, and the poutine. Um, so I just was at a Canadian wedding and the late-night snack was poutine. No way. We had poutine at our wedding in the cocktail hour. Oh my god. Love that. That sounds like a good idea. Yeah, it's very important. Jason, let's take a trip. Oh my yeah. Wait, what part of Canada are you from? I'm from just outside of Toronto, uh, a suburb called Mississauga. How fun. Amazing. I haven't been to Toronto since I was like 10 years old. I do love Montreal though. Oh, Montreal is the best. It's like Montreal and Old Quebec City, you get these like beautiful tastes of what Europe feels like. Okay, group trip to Canada to eat poutine.

[26:56] Evan Alexander Smith: Look at some really I was looking over your resume, and I was doing my research as a good host, and I saw that you know, you've been in The Play That Goes Wrong, Dirty Dancing, AMAZING GRACE, Little Shop, which I have a whole story about Little Shop, I'll tell you after. Um, Ragtime, AMAZING GRACE, and we have an endless long list of pretty amazing projects you've been a part of. You have a favorite one so far. I mean, it's like how do you pick? Like they're all, um, depending on who's listening, whatever the show that we did together is was my favorite. Um, yeah, I mean, look like The Toxic Avenger was my first big show out of college. It was um the Canadian production of that show after it had been running off-Broadway for a little bit, and we had the whole sort of New York creative team, and it was my first sort of um foray into like what commercial theater was like.

In Canada, we don't have like a ton of um original casts of um like replica Broadway productions. We used to have a lot more of that, like there was the long-running Phantom production there, um, and like Joseph was there for a minute. Um, but a lot of the time what we, you know, as I was coming up, um, what we had mostly was tours. Um, and so there weren't a lot of people who got to experience, you know, being in the original company of a Canadian production of a Broadway show, like Les Mis or or um Miss Saigon. Those were the shows that were Canadian cast when I was growing up. Um, so it was really cool to have that experience and to get to work with people from New York and to understand what like um the caliber of professionalism that was expected was.

I was 21, so I was a baby. Um, and I was working with like the best in the business, um, and playing the lead role in like the most physically vocally demanding role I've ever played. Um, so it was a lot to learn all at once. And I just came out of that with like this incredible sort of like understanding of how to um of work ethic and how to pace myself and um and I learned from the incredible people around me how to treat other artists, um, you know, so it was just full of incredible lessons. And because it was my first big show, it'll always be sort of the most special, I think for me. But then, you know, like AMAZING GRACE was my Broadway debut, which I mean is I uh some of the most special memories of my life doing that show, The Play That Goes Wrong, being on tour, hearing thousands and thousands of people just losing their minds with laughter every night.

Um, bringing that kind of comedy to like all over the country. I mean, like just gifts all over the place. I hope you had a chance. I hope, I hope you had a chance to give yourself a pat on the back. Cause I feel like, you know, we don't often do that, you know, we don't have to often take the experience in and in our accomplishments in as we should. So hearing you talk about that and how proud you sound, I hope you really patted yourself on the back though.

[30:05] Evan Alexander Smith: No thanks. I mean I think like the pandemic for all of us was or is I mean as it's still happening it has been a huge chance to opportunity to reflect and to um I think like the biggest thing that I carry forward with me from the past two years is is that sense of gratitude because we all sort of understood what it meant to not get to do the thing we love for so long and to wonder if it was ever coming back and um yeah. So you know that those two years where we were all unemployed in the theater where there was you know massive kind of introspection and and reflection. For sure. Did you like being on tour?

[30:41] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah I mean it was that show is so exhausting for the actors on stage. It you know like two and a half hours of like slapstick comedies. So I think we were all kind of like just like trying to keep our bodies um working for um for a year. But yeah I loved it. I mean I love exploring new cities. So I would spend all day sort of walking around going to museums um and being a tourist. Like I really love traveling. Um so like that aspect of it was incredible. I mean touring is tough like you you being in a in a different hotel room every couple of weeks and being away from my wife and um and you know not having the comforts of home is always difficult but to get to do it on that show is you know like you couldn't have asked for a better thing to to be occupied with when you have to be away.

[31:35] Evan Alexander Smith: So totally. So we we did talk a little bit already about how exciting it is to be in Merrily with all of these people. But I want to talk a little bit more about that and what it's like to be in this Sondheim show, like after his passing. Is there something different about that? Um and like a second part of this question is what's that transition been like from Little Shop to this production? Those are very different, I would imagine.

[32:04] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah, absolutely. It's I we had our big meet and greet that first day in the theater um at New York Theater Workshop. And uh Mary, uh sorry, Maria Friedman, our director, um took us through the sort of journey of the show um because it it began uh it originally began as a student production at the Central School in London, um before it became uh a show that they did at the Menier Chocolate Factory and then the West End. Uh and that production people can see online. So it's it's had this long um, I think that was in 2012. So it's it's had you know a this 10-year lifespan. Um and listening to sort of what it has meant to Maria and to the team that has been working on it all this time was incredible.

But also we had um Stephen Sondheim's partner um there that day talking about um what a special show it was for him and for George Furth and for all their friends. He he talked about and I don't know if this is uh if I should be sharing this, but uh because it it was a special moment, but um he talked about how there was uh the um sorry, uh trying to remember all the details so I don't misspeak. Um the princes would have this party um every Christmas, and um, you know, it he he talked about how Steven would bring him, and it was this sort of who's who of people in the industry, um very super fancy people, and every year without fail, they would all um clamor around the piano in the other room, all you know, 50 or 100 of them, they would all pack in tight, and Jason Robert Brown would sit down at the piano, and everybody there would sing Merrily We Roll Along from the first number to the end.

Um it was a tradition for them, it was an incredibly special show for them. Um, and to be part of that legacy now, um is just so special and meaningful. Um I still kind of don't know how I wandered into this room.

[34:08] Evan Alexander Smith: Um I feel very lucky, but um yeah. And it's a very different show from Little Shop. I mean, it was coming coming from um the being, you know, completely fed to a plant, um, you know, eight shows a week. Um it's just a very different thing. I mean, and Little Shop was also, you know, an incredible legacy to get to be a part of to like totally Howard Ashman's legacy and to get to perform for Alan Mencken. And um, you know, it's just like I feel like yeah.

[34:47] Evan Alexander Smith: That is so problem. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know how how else to to describe it. You know, just to say that I'm it it just feels like I I'm just so lucky to to have been able to do these these two shows over these past uh year and a half. Um yeah, I I again I I pinch myself every day. You know, we've only been speaking with you for 22 minutes, and your energy and your vibe, you are I don't know you at all. And I'm just like you're not so lucky, like you deserve this. You seem so nice and genuine and humble. Like you are right where you're supposed to be.

[35:24] Evan Alexander Smith: I'm like, I don't even know you. It's the comedians. We gotta make a big run soon, all of us. But I think like the the bridge between Little Shop and Merrily was or I guess it's not a bridge necessarily between, but a common sort of shared experience between those two shows is having these shows that we um have had been lucky to have these sort of um stars come in and join. You know, Little Shop, we had Jeremy Jordan and Conrad Ricamora, Skylar Astin, Rob McClure, Lena Hall, and uh Tammy Blanchard, Christian Borle. Um now this is just the name drop show. Um the thing is you it it's such a such a gift to be able to learn from those people, not just from like acting on stage with them and and watching them work and but like watching the way they they treat other people, watching the way they approach the work themselves, watching like their work ethic.

It's like across the board, just lovely, lovely people, and it it shows you the importance of especially when you're playing, you know, Seymour, um, how important it is when you're the lead of a show to also sort of lead the company, whether or not that is the the job you're being hired for, watching all of these people really step up and um and lead the group. Um, you know, the the Audrey's, the Seymour's, the Orens, you know, really like incredible people, role models, you know.

[36:49] Evan Alexander Smith: Love that. Well, speaking of role models leading companies and all these amazing people you've gotten to work with. Do you have a dream collaboration or dream role that you would love that's like on your list? Like, I'm gonna play there, I'm gonna work with this person one day.

[37:05] Evan Alexander Smith: Evan's face when you said that. I know. I mean, um, like getting to do a Sondheim show is like I think like bucket list for everybody. I always like the the role that I used to always say is George in Sunday in the Park. Um it's always been like the thing that um yeah, but I don't know. I again it's like I just wanna do good work with good people um who you know are good to be around. Um, you know, and that that's I guess the goal. I mean, I feel like the like the stock answer used to be like, I want to do the new show that hasn't been written yet. Um and uh we've gotten that a couple of times. Yeah, and and that's that's a totally valid response. I don't want to mock those people. But um, yeah, no, I mean I it's uh I just want to keep being in in shows with with lovely people doing good work, you know.

[37:58] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, but George.

[38:03] Jason A. Coombs: Also, George, yeah, yeah.

[38:07] Evan Alexander Smith: That revival wasn't not that recent, so there could be another one coming out of the world. I mean, I feel like there should like there, we have the Stratford Festival in Canada, so there's kind of like always a Shakespeare happening at any given time in the Toronto area. I just feel like there should always be a Sondheim show running in New York. Um, like we had, you know, we we had company and now we'll have Sweeney. Um, and who knows what the future of Marilee will be? Um, but you know, there should I don't think there should ever be a time where there's not a Sondheim on Broadway.

[38:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: So you know what? We'll let Broadway know that you said that and we'll make sure it happens.

[38:41] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, put in a letter.

[38:42] Evan Alexander Smith: We heard it here first on Broadway World.

[38:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Mr. Broadway.

[38:48] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, Evan, you're so kind and nice. Thank you so much for coming on.

[38:53] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, we have oh, of course.

[38:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know everyone listeners, we were chatting before and I was like, Evan, I'm so sorry. I've been DMing him like an annoying psychopath.

[39:06] Evan Alexander Smith: Not at all.

[39:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Weeks. I'm like, do you have availability this week? I was uh I was on a cruise ship when when we first started chatting, and I had I had email or I had internet access for like one day, and it was we were in Port Canaveral in Florida and it was the day before the hurricane hit. Um like reception was really bad, and I wanted anyways. It was a whole mess trying to get in touch, but I'm glad we we finally were able to We made it.

[39:31] Evan Alexander Smith: We're here, we're here.

[39:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. Look at us.

[39:37] Evan Alexander Smith: Look at us.

[39:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh gosh. Um, okay, so this is one of my favorite questions. We rotate it in and out on the show. Perhaps you've heard it.

[39:44] Jason A. Coombs: So if you could we always like to bring it back to survival jobs in one way or another.

[39:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: So if you had to work your least favorite survival job, so that's maybe Costco or the bar that couldn't afford to hire bartenders.

[40:00] Evan Alexander Smith: Costco in your suit.

[40:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: If you had to do one of those jobs for the next 10 years to come out of that and have your dream artistic life, whatever that means to you, everything you just described, George, every day, eight shows a week. Would you do that?

[40:20] Evan Alexander Smith: It's a good question. Because I will say, first of all, Costco is a great job besides that one day. Lovely people to work for. Please don't sue me, Costco. By the way, to all the Kimberly Akimbo fans and Deborah loves Costco as well. It's a g I mean I I like shopping at Costco. I most of the time enjoyed working in Costco. So I feel bad like qualifying it as like a bad place to work. Um would I hmm repeat the question one more time. I want to make sure I've I've carefully considered this.

[40:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: If you had to go back to your least favorite survival job, and now by the way, that means it's your least favorite. Not that the place is a bad place to work. If you had to go back to your least favorite survival job for the next 10 years, but when you came out of those 10 years, you in the snap of a finger will get your dream artistic life for the rest of your life. Whatever that means to you, would you do it?

[41:15] Evan Alexander Smith: I'm tainted because I heard Julie's response to this, which was so great. Um I I I don't think I would. I think like I I kind of I I think it was Julie that said this. I agree that so much of like the journey is the most important thing. And like what I think is my dream sort of artistic creative life now, um, will probably massively shift in 10 years. And what that dream job is is influenced by all the experiences I have um along the way. So I wouldn't, I think, want to be stuck somewhere that um that where I wasn't feeling artistically fulfilled or having new experiences um because those new experiences I think are what make us valuable as actors or um or or give us perspective. Um so I'd rather have, you know, uh 10 years of of other bad jobs or um uh and and and learn what you know the path is as I take it, I guess.

[42:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: You guys, he would even give up that poutine every single day.

[42:20] Evan Alexander Smith: I had a co-worker once tell me that I was gonna get heart disease if I kept eating it every day at lunch. She was um so maybe I have to feel like hey, mind your business, dude.

[42:29] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[42:30] Evan Alexander Smith: She was very nice, but um, she was not a uh Costco Poutine fan, I guess.

[42:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, again, thank you so much. This is amazing. You answered, you did a you gave a great answer. And thank you.

[42:45] Evan Alexander Smith: Shout out to Julie for the inspo.

[42:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, for sure. For the inspo in so many ways, just the the best.

[42:55] Evan Alexander Smith: She's the truth.

[42:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, we we we stand Julie.

[43:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: We stand everybody.

[43:01] Jason A. Coombs: We're like everybody we fall in love with on this show that we're we do, we do.

[43:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, so like we told you, Jason. Do you want to introduce the game?

[43:10] Jason A. Coombs: Um, yeah. So this is why I asked you 14 times, just to make sure you were from Canada, because we thought we'd play a game of name that Canadian.

[43:21] Evan Alexander Smith: Oh, we're gonna we're gonna um ask you a question. Some are true or false, and some are not, and you'll just tell us if that person is Canadian or not.

[43:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay.

[43:33] Evan Alexander Smith: I hope you know your um your peeps.

[43:35] Evan Alexander Smith: Oh, I'm so nervous. This is kind of one of my favorite games.

[43:38] Jason A. Coombs: Like I just hear like a talk show. I was like, name that Canadian.

[43:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. You wanna take the first?

[43:46] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, sure. Are you ready?

[43:48] Evan Alexander Smith: I think so.

[43:50] Jason A. Coombs: This famous Canadian starred in and co-created the iconic show Schitt's Creek with his famous actor father. Who is this Canadian?

[44:00] Evan Alexander Smith: Dan Levy.

[44:01] Jason A. Coombs: Excellent. Ding ding ding.

[44:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Ding ding ding. Tilling it already.

[44:06] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Um this knocked up and pineapple express actor from Canada. I started as a stand-up comedic.

[44:12] Evan Alexander Smith: Comedic?

[44:15] Jason A. Coombs: Some stand-up comedian in Vancouver.

[44:17] Evan Alexander Smith: Seth Rogan.

[44:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh. Killing it.

[44:24] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, true or false. Both the notebook stars Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams were born in Canada.

[44:31] Evan Alexander Smith: True. My high school girlfriend's dad taught Ryan, uh taught Ryan Gosling in high school in Hamilton, um, which is uh another it's a city outside of Toronto. And Rachel McAdams went to York, which is theater school in Toronto.

[44:47] Jason A. Coombs: Wow, no stump and oven. Right?

[44:50] Evan Alexander Smith: Dang here. I'm here to win.

[44:53] Jason A. Coombs: I think so. Give me something helpful.

[44:57] Jason A. Coombs: Um, which powerhouse actress who is a nine-year veteran of Grey's Anatomy was born in Canada.

[45:05] Evan Alexander Smith: This is my blind spot. I don't watch Grays.

[45:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, I just started. So we have to watch his every day.

[45:11] Evan Alexander Smith: So I've taken a break, but I would highly recommend. I know it's not gonna help you in the game, but that's a sidebar. I feel like I need to phone a friend like with Conrad or my wife or somebody. Um I I lose.

[45:23] Jason A. Coombs: You we can give you a hint.

[45:26] Evan Alexander Smith: Oh wait, Sandra Oh.

[45:29] Jason A. Coombs: Oh wow.

[45:31] Evan Alexander Smith: Wow. Congrats.

[45:33] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[45:34] Evan Alexander Smith: Wow. How did you get how did you how did you get pulled it out of the air?

[45:38] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know what the what the what the line of thought was.

[45:41] Evan Alexander Smith: Wow, good job. I swear I didn't Google.

[45:43] Jason A. Coombs: You would hear the typing.

[45:44] Evan Alexander Smith: This person on the very center. You guys, he didn't. I'm more I'm keeping close eyes on him.

[45:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[45:49] Jason A. Coombs: There's a bonus, Samantha.

[45:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. Is there an answer?

[45:57] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. I know it.

[45:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yep.

[45:58] Jason A. Coombs: This is the bonus. Name this Canadian. This Degrassi actor and singer is from Canada.

[46:09] Evan Alexander Smith: Drake?

[46:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[46:14] Jason A. Coombs: Wow. Congrats.

[46:17] Evan Alexander Smith: Congratulations.

[46:18] Jason A. Coombs: You got 150%.

[46:20] Evan Alexander Smith: Um when I was in when I was in high school, I went to a restaurant called Jack Astor's, um, which is like a you know, it's like a uh a fun punny bar and grill um in Mississauga. And I was on a date, and um Drake, I think his name was uh he was known as Miles Aubrey at the time, was uh on a date the table next to us, and I remember that Degrassi guy.

[46:40] Jason A. Coombs: That's wheels.

[46:41] Evan Alexander Smith: Um you basically were on a double date.

[46:44] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I was I was double date.

[46:47] Evan Alexander Smith: Like two truths in a lie. I was on a double date with Drake because it's not completely a lie.

[46:52] Jason A. Coombs: No, no, I feel like it would missing out on like a huge level of street cred by not using that in everyday conversations.

[46:59] Evan Alexander Smith: Like for icebreaker games, like getting to know you in your next show, like two truths and a lie. I think that's what you should do. Hopefully, they didn't listen to this episode, or hopefully they did, because you know I hope they did were such a hit.

[47:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, what does he win, Samantha?

[47:16] Jason A. Coombs: An invitation to just survival survival jobs season three launch party.

[47:23] Evan Alexander Smith: Hey, I know whenever that may be, but that won't be your golden ticket.

[47:31] Jason A. Coombs: Amazing.

[47:32] Evan Alexander Smith: I'm so excited.

[47:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: We'll send a paperless post.

[47:35] Evan Alexander Smith: Yay. Thank you so much. This was so much fun.

[47:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you guys. It was so much fun. This was great.

[47:41] Jason A. Coombs: Evan, before you go, would would you mind sharing where people can find you? Social media, website, all that good stuff.

[47:50] Evan Alexander Smith: Yeah. Oh, great. Um, so on Instagram and Twitter, I'm at IM Evan Smith. Um my website is www.evanalexandersmith.com. Um, and I'm on TikTok, but like I mostly just scroll for dog content and like cooking videos.

[48:10] Evan Alexander Smith: Um, I mean, that's that's mainly I don't post anything. So, but if you want to follow me there in the hopes that I will, one day it's at I am Evan Alexander Smith.

[48:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Can you let everybody know where they can see you in Marily?

[48:24] Evan Alexander Smith: Yes, please come and see me. Well, okay, look. The sad part of the story is the show is sold out, but it's also the good part of the story. Um, so uh if if you're able to, we have um lottery tickets available um on I think it's today ticks or cheap tick.

[48:39] Evan Alexander Smith: Anyways, there there are lottery tickets available. Um otherwise, yeah, we're we're at New York Theater Workshop on East Fourth Street um through uh the middle of January.

[48:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[48:52] Evan Alexander Smith: And if you're just tuning in, I know like didn't it happen in 10 minutes? Something then it like sell out yeah, something like that.

[49:03] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I think it was 10 minutes, and I I'm pretty sure somebody on Reddit had said that there were like 300,000 people in line trying to get tickets.

[49:11] Evan Alexander Smith: And that seems a little outrageous to me. But you know, it was yeah, they they overloaded the thing.

[49:16] Jason A. Coombs: It that the the website crashed.

[49:18] Evan Alexander Smith: It was there was yeah, we we're we're very lucky that so many people are so excited to see the show.

[49:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Umizard, I don't know.

[49:28] Evan Alexander Smith: That wizard probably hasn't fancy. That really made me laugh.

[49:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Uh and and if you guys are tuning in to survival jobs for the first time because you're an Evan fan and you don't know us, follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Survival Jobs Pod.

[49:46] Jason A. Coombs: On Facebook, we are survival jobs a podcast.

[49:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Shoot us an email at survival jobs pod at gmail.com. Follow me at Sammy Toots, and that is my boy Jason A.

[50:02] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you so much, Evan. This is fun. You're the truth. We love this.

[50:06] Evan Alexander Smith: Thank you so much.

[50:07] Jason A. Coombs: Break all of your legs in the show.

[50:10] Evan Alexander Smith: Thank you. I'm yeah.

[50:13] Jason A. Coombs: It's doing it it's really hot in this office, so it's doing it's doing like a nice swoop right now by by no effort of my own.

[50:21] Evan Alexander Smith: Swoop and swooping.

[50:23] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[50:24] Evan Alexander Smith: Thank you.

[50:25] Jason A. Coombs: It's great talking to you.