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[0:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hello everyone.

[0:06] Jason A. Coombs: Welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast in collaboration with Broadway World.

[0:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: My name is Samantha Tuozzolo, and this is my amazing, beautiful, perfect co-host, Jason A. Coombs.

[0:18] Jason A. Coombs: Hey, Jason.

[0:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hey, Samantha Tuozzolo, thank you for the nice intro.

[0:23] Jason A. Coombs: Hey survivors, thanks for tuning in.

[0:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Survivors.

[0:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy millionth episode.

[0:31] Jason A. Coombs: I feel like we have so much.

[0:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't even know.

[0:34] Jason A. Coombs: 50.

[0:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: I think it's 57.

[0:38] Jason A. Coombs: I'm so dead.

[0:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Happy millionth episode.

[0:40] Jason A. Coombs: Can you imagine?

[0:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, that's a lot.

[0:44] Jason A. Coombs: That's a lot.

[0:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: What's your temperature check like today?

[0:47] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[0:48] Jason A. Coombs: Um, you know, the change of the weather really was shocking because one day everybody was in shorts, and then the next day it was freezing.

[0:56] Jason A. Coombs: I believe it snowed in some areas this week.

[0:58] Jason A. Coombs: Um, so I was feeling like my head congested, a bunch of weird things.

[1:02] Jason A. Coombs: So that was part of my temperature check.

[1:04] Jason A. Coombs: Second part of my temperature check is I am so hyped for Thanksgiving.

[1:10] Jason A. Coombs: I love Thanksgiving food, and that's it.

[1:14] Jason A. Coombs: That's pretty much it.

[1:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm feeling good.

[1:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: How about you?

[1:17] Jason A. Coombs: I mean tell me your temperature.

[1:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, my temperature, my temperature check is good.

[1:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm just, you know, I was a little tired today, but really excited.

[1:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: Uh, we had the Bridgeport Art Trail this past weekend, um, which was a lot of fun.

[1:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: We had um, you know, screening of for the film fest, and then my friend Sarah who did her cabaret, the crappy cabaret.

[1:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: It was awesome.

[1:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: It was like a full house.

[1:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, he was the guest.

[1:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Was the guest car, and uh we had a good time, you know.

[1:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: It was a lot of fun.

[1:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I'm feeling very rejuvenated, very happy.

[1:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's one less thing on my plate.

[1:51] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I'm dead that we're already talking about the Bridgeport Film Festival again.

[1:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know, right?

[1:58] Jason A. Coombs: We just did it.

[1:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm confused.

[2:00] Jason A. Coombs: Uh well, you know, we just gotta start planning like a year in advance, and it's almost it's less than a year.

[2:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: So definitely is less than a year.

[2:09] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, it's wild.

[2:10] Jason A. Coombs: Um, but yeah, I I was gonna say that I saw Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever.

[2:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, um, and it was definitely uh uh an experience, definitely an experience.

[2:27] Jason A. Coombs: I highly recommend it, and I think that uh they had a huge challenge.

[2:32] Jason A. Coombs: Ryan Coogler, the director and writer had a huge challenge to make a sequel to a movie after your lead, you know, actor dies unexpectedly.

[2:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: Uh yeah, so um it's a very beautiful uh love letter to Chadwick Boseman, and must have been so emotional.

[2:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah.

[2:55] Jason A. Coombs: It's uh you know, cried a couple times.

[2:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, and I think I was watching something where Angela Bassett, who plays uh Black Panther's mom, Ramonda.

[3:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: She was saying how like before they started shooting like the cast, and I guess like the main crew all went to like Chadwick Boseman's uh place of burial, and you know, did like a little tribute to him there, and like you know, so intense, right?

[3:18] Jason A. Coombs: It's like wow, um, to lose someone like that.

[3:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know, right?

[3:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: That just gave me body chills through my whole body.

[3:25] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, body chills through my whole body because that makes sense.

[3:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: I literally repetitive.

[3:31] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, wow.

[3:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'll definitely I need to go.

[3:33] Jason A. Coombs: You saw it in the theater.

[3:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Is that the only place?

[3:36] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I saw it in IMAX.

[3:37] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I think for now it's you know, it's I think you have to see it in IMAX.

[3:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I mean, because it's uh it's uh it's epic, you know, it's it's epic.

[3:46] Jason A. Coombs: And what I I mean, I'm not big into the superhero movies just because there's so many, and I can't I can't keep track of all of them, and there's too many, and like you know, I feel like sometimes they're kind of um they kind of write them kind of stock, like by the stock, kind of, you know, there's like I feel like there's okay, a lot of jokes, and you know, this epic thing and blah blah blah.

[4:06] Jason A. Coombs: But I feel like with Black Panther, you know, it's because it's so soulful and thematic in ways that really resonate with the culture, and this film has a lot of like Mayan and and and and kind of um native, like is it native Mexican?

[4:23] Jason A. Coombs: I don't want to say the wrong thing, but you know, that kind of like um those kind of roots are buried in this, and and the actor who plays like the villain.

[4:31] Jason A. Coombs: Um I just want to get I think his name is Tenoch.

[4:34] Jason A. Coombs: Uh he's a Mexican actor, and and you know, to see that culture on the big screen in a movie like this is also like really cool and really inspiring because I and I don't want to make this too long, but he was basically saying like a lot of Mexican like uh media has a lot of like white Mexicans, you know.

[4:49] Jason A. Coombs: So to see someone who is the lead of the superhero movie who's like a darker, brown-skinned Mexican, more indigenous looking, um, is breaking down barriers, which is so important.

[4:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: And so we love that.

[5:01] Jason A. Coombs: We do, we do.

[5:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, well, great.

[5:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'll definitely have to go see it sooner rather than later.

[5:07] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be in theaters for the next 28 months, probably.

[5:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I was just gonna say, probably for a really long time.

[5:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um I I quickly wanted you to say one thing before we chat about our guests today.

[5:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, I got to go to the opening night of KIMBERLY AKIMBO, which we know I love this show, and I just want to repeat myself to our faithful listeners.

[5:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: This show is so amazing and beautiful and touching and funny.

[5:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: You laugh, you cry.

[5:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: I haven't seen musical theater, like an original piece of musical theater like this in a while.

[5:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: I feel like I say that a lot.

[5:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm like, theater hasn't done this to me in a while, like for everything that I love, but I feel that it happened last week, Sam.

[5:50] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, for right.

[5:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, but I feel that that feeling comes when things are so great.

[5:57] Jason A. Coombs: Um, it got rave, rave, rave reviews, like no notes.

[6:01] Jason A. Coombs: Like the reviews were flawless.

[6:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I'm telling you guys, run, get a ticket.

[6:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: Past guest Steven Boyer is phenomenal, so amazing in it.

[6:12] Jason A. Coombs: I love Steven Boyer.

[6:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: I just love this show.

[6:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love Steven Boyer as well.

[6:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love this show.

[6:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: You guys should follow him on Instagram.

[6:18] Jason A. Coombs: Sorry, funny.

[6:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, you should follow him on Instagram.

[6:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, he's really funny, and it's a critic's pick.

[6:25] Jason A. Coombs: And while I'm on that, real quick, I'm looking at my phone just so I can give you correct information.

[6:31] Jason A. Coombs: My good friend Patrick is one of the producers on Mike Birbiglia, the old man in the pool playing at Lincoln Center.

[6:39] Jason A. Coombs: Um, I have not seen it yet, but it got also great reviews.

[6:42] Jason A. Coombs: It's on my list.

[6:43] Jason A. Coombs: I hear it's like an amazing piece of theater.

[6:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: So go run and see that too.

[6:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: And there's my promos for the week.

[6:50] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, promos for the week.

[6:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you.

[6:53] Jason A. Coombs: Cool.

[6:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Let's talk about Dan Rosales.

[6:57] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, Dan Rosales.

[6:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Guys, we just literally interviewed him two seconds ago.

[7:02] Jason A. Coombs: Love it.

[7:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Two seconds ago.

[7:04] Jason A. Coombs: He's great.

[7:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: He's joining us from San Diego.

[7:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like he's in the middle of a run, and he shared his time with us.

[7:10] Jason A. Coombs: So we're so excited for you guys to listen to this episode.

[7:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: I just want to make sure that I say this right.

[7:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I'm opening the email because he's in a production of Scrooge, right?

[7:20] Jason A. Coombs: That we didn't get to talk about too much.

[7:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: We really did.

[7:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: So it's Ebenezer Scrooge's BIG San Diego Christmas Show.

[7:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's playing November 23rd through December 29th at the Cheryl and Harvey White Theater and the Conrad Prebys Theater Center, which is in San Diego.

[7:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: So check it out, y'all.

[7:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Go to the website, we'll put it in the link below, get tickets and support.

[7:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: Support local theater.

[7:47] Jason A. Coombs: Theater's not only in New York City, you know.

[7:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's right.

[7:50] Jason A. Coombs: That's right.

[7:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Our San Diego listeners run to the show.

[7:54] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[7:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: So let's tell everyone a little bit about Dan, Jay.

[7:57] Jason A. Coombs: You want to kick it off?

[8:00] Jason A. Coombs: Sure, I do want to kick it off once I go back to that tab.

[8:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: I can kick it off.

[8:06] Jason A. Coombs: I got it.

[8:07] Jason A. Coombs: I was switching between tabs.

[8:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're like, sure.

[8:10] Jason A. Coombs: I'm like, hello, Jason.

[8:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Are you there?

[8:13] Jason A. Coombs: I have like the window, like this window.

[8:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, cool.

[8:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hold on, real quick.

[8:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Do you know Bear: A Pop Opera?

[8:18] Jason A. Coombs: Do you know that music at all?

[8:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, Jay.

[8:21] Jason A. Coombs: Extra number.

[8:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: Jay, right?

[8:23] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[8:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know.

[8:25] Jason A. Coombs: I just said, Are you there?

[8:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I was like, Are you there?

[8:28] Jason A. Coombs: Are you there?

[8:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Do you watch me when I cry?

[8:32] Jason A. Coombs: I think that's Bear.

[8:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Anyway, there's enough of my singing for the week.

[8:37] Jason A. Coombs: I love when you sing.

[8:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, but I think that song isn't that the opening song to Bear?

[8:41] Jason A. Coombs: It's like Jason, did you get my number?

[8:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Because it's about the closet.

[8:44] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[8:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[8:46] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[8:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, you guys, you you know what?

[8:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: You just got a free.

[8:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: You just get a free Bear: A Pop Opera performance by Samantha and Jason.

[8:56] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[8:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're making me breathless, right?

[9:01] Jason A. Coombs: Why I lurk in hallways, I'll be with you always, always together.

[9:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Forever you and I.

[9:08] Jason A. Coombs: That's right.

[9:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm crying.

[9:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Every time I don't go out, like on a weekend night, I'm like, a quiet night at home.

[9:18] Jason A. Coombs: Silent night.

[9:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: You know that one?

[9:20] Jason A. Coombs: A joy to pass a quiet night at home that wall.

[9:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay.

[9:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Back to Dan.

[9:28] Jason A. Coombs: Dan.

[9:29] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[9:30] Jason A. Coombs: Uh Dan Rosales was part of the first AEA approved production during COVID-19.

[9:37] Jason A. Coombs: Godspell at the Berkshire Theater Group.

[9:40] Jason A. Coombs: Off-Broadway credits include Trevor, a new musical at Stage 42.

[9:45] Jason A. Coombs: And originating the titular role of Lin Manuel Miranda in Spamilton, Harold and Dogman the Musical at the Lucille Lortel.

[9:53] Jason A. Coombs: National tour credits include Peter Pan, Peter Pan 360.

[9:58] Jason A. Coombs: Regionally, Dan has been seen at the Kennedy Center, The Old Globe, Paper Mill Playhouse, Goodspeed, Agunk Wit Playhouse, Weston Playhouse.

[10:07] Jason A. Coombs: Television credits include Evil on CBS, The Good Fight also on CBS, Trevor on Disney Plus.

[10:13] Jason A. Coombs: Dan can also be heard in Yu-Gi-Oh! Rush Duels on Nintendo Switch.

[10:17] Jason A. Coombs: Dan is a proud graduate of the Boston Conservatory at Berklee School of Music.

[10:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Should we let everybody listen, Jay?

[10:26] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[10:26] Jason A. Coombs: And yeah, check out his website, DanRosales.net for more info.

[10:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: For more info.

[10:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: And next week, guys, survivors, we'll be back with some more Bear: A Pop Opera for your listening pleasures.

[10:40] Jason A. Coombs: Maybe.

[10:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Depends on our mood, honestly.

[10:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: Enjoy everybody.

[10:45] Jason A. Coombs: Enjoy you guys.

[10:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hello, Dan Rosales.

[10:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you for joining us today from San Diego, California.

[10:56] Dan Rosales: We are happy to have you.

[10:57] Dan Rosales: Like I said before, I've been listening to the pod or the audio comedy all morning to get ready for this.

[11:05] Dan Rosales: So it's like kind of cool to actually meet you now.

[11:08] Dan Rosales: I'm sure you're not annoyed by my voice yet, hopefully.

[11:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: Never, never.

[11:15] Dan Rosales: Yeah, we're so happy to have you, like Jason said.

[11:18] Dan Rosales: Um, we're definitely gonna talk a lot about Rolling Calls, uh, your new audio comedy on BPN as we get in the interview.

[11:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, but just to kick it off, we always love to start and jump right in and talk about survival jobs.

[11:32] Dan Rosales: Um, so before we get into the nitty-gritty of it all, what do you think defines a survival job?

[11:40] Dan Rosales: What I think defines a survival job.

[11:43] Dan Rosales: I think a survival job is something that I feel like is inherent to like the arts and artists or people who want to create in that general vibe that have to take on a job, survival job, to supplement their more important life, much to the chagrin of their hopes and dreams.

[12:07] Dan Rosales: So it's stuff that pays the bills, pays the rent, and can get you on that subway to and from your survival job.

[12:16] Dan Rosales: Ultimate goal of never stepping foot in that establishment or on that laptop again for that reason.

[12:22] Dan Rosales: Totally. I really love that question and the kind of answers we've been getting because I feel like ultimately they're all like the same idea. The answers, but everybody describes it a little bit differently. So I really it's my new favorite question in case anyone wanted to know that.

[12:41] Jason A. Coombs: It's a good question.

[12:42] Dan Rosales: Yeah.

[12:44] Jason A. Coombs: Well, Dan, you you're you are a working actor, obviously, but um, did you have a favorite survival job while you were on your journey trying to get to where you are now? Maybe impacted you positively.

[12:55] Dan Rosales: Yeah. Um, I so when I first moved to the city after graduating school, I got a job at this restaurant called Isabella's on the upper west side.

[13:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god, I used to go to Isabella's all of the time.

[13:12] Dan Rosales: Yes, wait, was it in your server?

[13:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know.

[13:15] Dan Rosales: Well, so sorry to always interrupt everyone. My best friend roommate is Ben Simpson, who also worked at Isabella's.

[13:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Who I went to school with, yes.

[13:25] Dan Rosales: Correct. So there we go. We always talk about Ben on the show, and he literally never listens.

[13:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: So annoying.

[13:32] Dan Rosales: Okay. Isabella's. Yes, it was so good.

[13:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, sorry. You may proceed.

[13:39] Dan Rosales: Uh, it was a good survival job. Um, and thanks to Ben and our mutual friend REL, who I also went to school with, they worked there at the same time, and I had gotten a recommendation to the GM, and I was like, Look, I have no money, I'm so broke. I just graduated with so much student debt, but I need something that's gonna pay my rent, it's gonna let me uh get a metro car to go to these auditions, and so I started working there, and I straight up LOL lied on my resume. I had never worked in a restaurant before, absolutely not. I put my friend Ashley down as a reference for another restaurant. I don't think they ever called, thank god. But I was like, Look, I'm a good people person, I have great like organizational skills, I'll be great at this job.

And I got hired, I think on the spot, which was fun. And I worked there for on and off for about a year, and it was an incredible learning experience. I saw a lot of celebs um up by the upper west side by uh museum of natural history, and it was super cute. They had a really great brunch.

[14:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: The brunch is where didn't they have like a strawberry butter something delicious?

[14:47] Dan Rosales: Strawberry butter with the yes, of course I know that strawberry butter. I like want to eat it with a spoon, not actually, but kind of it was a lit box. You got one free coffee, one free mimosa or cold drink, one free hot cold drink, and something else. It was included in your brunch, which was great. Oh, as and a lot of strawberry butter.

[15:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: Did they close? Did they close during the pandemic?

[15:14] Dan Rosales: I think it closed right before the pandemic.

[15:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh gotcha, but there's another cute restaurant there now, so it's nice.

[15:22] Dan Rosales: You know, I love that. That's like a sort of a common theme too on this show. Everybody has lied on the resume.

[15:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: You have to, of course.

[15:29] Dan Rosales: Of course, because how are you gonna get like the head the one foot in front of the other? You can't really chicken and egg thing, right? What came first? Like they want you to have experience, but like, how do you get experience without the opportunity?

[15:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like glow blow the drug scripting war, like exactly back in the day. Like those Craigslist ads for New York City restaurants were always like, must have New York City experience, and also you must send your headshot, which is illegal, isn't it?

[15:59] Dan Rosales: It's kind of icky. I think.

[16:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: So icky.

[16:02] Dan Rosales: Not to mention illegal, but yeah.

[16:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Totally. Okay, so Isabella's was like a dreamy survival job. Do you have one that maybe wasn't so dreamy? A shocking, funny worse survival job story.

[16:17] Dan Rosales: Um, it was also Isabella's funnel.

[16:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, I love that.

[16:22] Dan Rosales: And it was great, it was great because it was all a bunch of actors, and we all got the job. We all understood what our role there was, you know. So, like we would help each other with auditions or taking shifts if one of them had to be covered, but it was also a nightmare to work there sometimes. Only because you know, you're in an affluent neighborhood, and there are certain personalities there that demand certain things instantaneously as if you are a wizard, and that people suck.

[16:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, yeah.

[16:55] Dan Rosales: So people suck at restaurants, and generally, I think we've gotten better since then. I think since it closed in 2017, I would like to say, now with like Twitter and social media and everything blowing up with all these like horror circle stories and stuff.

[17:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like James Corden, huh?

[17:12] Dan Rosales: Yeah, yeah. Yikes. But there were there were some. I remember one day at Isabella's, I was like having a terrible brunch because it was so busy, and we were in the weeds, and I was carrying I was carrying a tray of like nine mimosas to this table that was celebrating a birthday or a graduation or something. I forget what it was, and I was like not focused at all, and it had an entire tray of these drinks and these obviously like champagne fluids, and I take one off, and my life just goes in slow motion because as soon as I take one off to set it down on the table, every single one of those champagne flutes fell on the same guy in his leather jacket. And I was like having an astral experience because I was watching myself like in my face as it was happening. And that was a unique day at that restaurant. I'll say that.

[18:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Was it James Corden?

[18:12] Dan Rosales: No kidding. I mean, it could have been so good.

[18:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: It could have been.

[18:17] Dan Rosales: Yeah. Oh man. You know what I want to say is I'm feeling like this. I'm having a lot of like PTS, not PTSD, but like flashbacks from other episodes. Julie Banco has that same story about champagne flutes.

[18:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[18:31] Dan Rosales: She's like, I walked and I spilled a whole thing of champagne flutes. And this is why I love survival job stories. Because we all are in it together, you know.

[18:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: And we all can relate to those freaking champagne flutes.

[18:45] Dan Rosales: Yeah, every server, I think every server has dropped a champagne flute or two or nine at some point.

[18:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh.

[18:56] Dan Rosales: Oh my gosh.

[18:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, so let's get into rolling rolling calls. Um, so it's a new com audio comedy on Broadway Podcast Network. And the opening line, which I saw this, I was like, my mouth dropped open when I got the email and I saw this. Is when 23-year-old Walt Mendez, played by you, yeah, gets a survival job at a struggling level NYC talent agency. I was like, oh my god, that's like perfect. That aligns with our show so well. Um, so that yeah, so tell us about tell us about it and tell us what it's like portraying someone who's like a struggling actor, knowing that I don't want to say you were struggling because I don't know you that well, but you know, the the that's kind of like what the stereotype of actors, right? Is that we're always struggling to like get to that next place.

[19:44] Dan Rosales: I the comedy series is is so witty and so uh smart. It's written by Gordon Greeberg and Steve Rosen, directed by Gordon Greenberg. Um, and it's really just this kid, Walt, who is an artist who's a musician, a pianist who was working at I think it's Marie's Crisis is what it was. I don't know if we name it in the show. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it was, and who wouldn't, I mean, doesn't get paid well there, so he has to get a survival job at this ultra ultra low budget talent agency, the Dinah Levine agency.

[20:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: So shady there.

[20:22] Dan Rosales: Yeah, it's famously played by Julie Halston, and uh it's just it's a blast through and through because you see Walt kind of navigating, trying to get these new skills and skill set of like dealing with high-profile clients and dealing with people who need stuff all the time, and also dealing with the huge personality that is Dinah Levine, and not to give anything away, but during the series, you see how maybe the business isn't being handled as well as it should be by her husband, who uh is played by Richard Kind, uh, and all of the shenanigans that kind of ensue with Walt stepping into this world for the first time.

[21:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Amazing, it sounds so great. I need to listen to it way more than I have.

[21:09] Dan Rosales: So you were just like listing some of the people that are um in the show with you. I really want to give a shout out to Past Survival Job guest alum Mary McGowan, who's also in it.

[21:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, Mary.

[21:21] Dan Rosales: This is like an all-star cast. And Mary also worked a survival job with uh starting interrupter side.

[21:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's right. No, we're just connecting everything today, and I love it.

[21:31] Dan Rosales: Yeah. I love it. All of it. Um so I wanna ask, you know, what are the how is the rehearsal process for this? What are the differences between your process with you know an audio show versus a live show? Can you talk a little bit about what that was all like?

[21:50] Dan Rosales: Like and was everybody together, you know.

[21:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's it's tough when it's uh I can imagine it must be tough.

[21:57] Dan Rosales: It was uh a unique experience. I mean, it was so fun. I have a really great um uh relationship with Gordon and Steve, the writers of the show. I'm actually here in San Diego at the globe doing their version of Christmas Carol, which is called Ebenezer Screwgious Big San Diego Christmas Show. It's a local extravaganza here at the old globe. But their type of like humor is is so fun. So I was really excited to do this podcast series because I do some voiceover work for animation, and so this just felt like a natural fit. Um, it's so different because I never met anyone really. I had uh two Zoom sessions with uh Richard and Julie, and I think Britney Mack, but for the most part, all of it was recorded independently with just kind of like this.

Like it was me with my headset and my microphone, and Gordon and Steve and Dory, our producer, and Mary, the line producer. Um just kind of figuring it out one line at a time. It was a pretty funny. Uh I had a session with Richard Kind, and because of the audio delay because it was being recorded, he didn't understand that I wasn't actually pausing between every line that it was just the internet. And he's like, Why are you pausing between every line? I'm like, he's not he's not pausing, Richard. He's like, Oh, okay, okay. He's like, that's a choice. Yeah, he's like, I don't know if that's the right slide. But you are making one, so I guess I respect it.

[23:28] Dan Rosales: Um, but in general, I mean, it was a blast. We just got to record uh pretty much straight through over the course of a couple of days and do some re-records, but it it's it's so different from being a part of like a live show because you have people around you and you're you're bouncing off of that energy. But this is a much more uh subdued style, like mockumentary like all of the office or parks and rec or something like that, where it's all just kind of realistic, even though it's theatrical, if that makes sense.

[24:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: No, it totally makes sense.

[24:01] Dan Rosales: Yeah, yeah. Can you let everybody know where they can listen to the show?

[24:06] Dan Rosales: Yes, you can listen to uh rolling calls on I think every single podcast streaming service. You can listen at bpn.fm slash rolling calls. You can listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. If I'm saying anything that's not right, please uh let me know. But I do think you're a link tree. That sounds right. I think you can listen to listen on any streaming service pretty much. And I think new episodes drop every Thursday, so that in your calendar, y'all.

[24:41] Dan Rosales: Right after listen right before us or right after us.

[24:44] Jason A. Coombs: There you go.

[24:44] Dan Rosales: See, it's going to drive every Thursday too.

[24:46] Jason A. Coombs: We drop on Thursdays as well.

[24:48] Dan Rosales: It's all fate.

[24:49] Jason A. Coombs: It's all fate that we're all here together.

[24:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: How long is the season gonna be?

[24:54] Dan Rosales: This season, I'm actually not entirely sure. I think it might be 10 episodes.

[24:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: 10 episodes.

[25:01] Dan Rosales: I could be wrong, but there's definitely a lot more episodes that come out. Um and the arc is pretty fun to follow through. I mean, it's just an all-star cast, and just every episode kind of stands alone, but it has this big through line of while navigating this horrible, you know, situation of an agency and then coming out on the other side a little bit stronger.

[25:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that.

[25:25] Dan Rosales: It's so it's so cool. Like I feel like with the with this new like, you know, these these audio stories, it's taking us back to days when I mean I wasn't alive, but like you know, back when I imagine when like radio plays are around, right? When like people would sit around the radio listening to these stories and and before TV, and you know, it was it's just really reminds me of that.

[25:45] Jason A. Coombs: It's like so cool to be taken back to that.

[25:47] Dan Rosales: Yeah, it's fun because it's I mean, it's just storytelling. There's nothing else like visually there for you to like catch your eye on, but it's just our editors did an amazing job like adding all the sound effects of what it's like to be in the local office or taking a phone call or like a chair squeak, you know, or opening a soda. Um, but it it's just like this audio experience. It's it's really fun.

[26:10] Dan Rosales: It's really fun. And I love that it's accessible to everyone, you know, like theater and and live shows. It's it's not accessible to everyone. Either you're not in the right location or you can't afford a ticket price. So how wonderful to be able to access this on so many platforms.

[26:28] Jason A. Coombs: So great. Shout out.

[26:29] Dan Rosales: Shout out to BPN and shout out to Rolling Calls.

[26:33] Jason A. Coombs: Shout out to Walt. I want to switch gears just a little bit because like most like most theater fans, like I feel like 99% of us love Hamilton, and you were in the Hamilton parody, right?

[26:46] Dan Rosales: Yes. Uh where you played Lynn Manville Miranda. And I think it was Hamilton, right?

[26:51] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[26:52] Dan Rosales: Yes. So I have two questions, two quick questions for you.

[26:55] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[26:55] Dan Rosales: I won't take too much of your time, but like what was that process like? And and I saw that Lynn actually came. So what was it like to be him and being in this parody of like this iconic show that he created and then performing in front of him?

[27:08] Dan Rosales: Right. Um it was wild. It was a wild experience. When I first got the appointment from my agents, it was, I think the name was Untitled Parody Musical, I don't know, some like weird secret name. And I was like, I don't know what the hell this is, but sure, okay. I was working at Isabella's, being like, I don't want to work here anymore. Let me get something else. Um, so I went in, and then I was like, oh, this is Hamilton, but just a parody and funny. It's it was written by uh Gerard Alessandrini, famously from uh Forbidden Broadway and all those iterations.

[27:47] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[27:48] Dan Rosales: Um, so I mean, it was really fun. I got to play Lynn. Um, and funnily enough, I had actually served Lynn and his wife while I was a waiter at Isabella's before they had the first child, and I like vividly remember this experience. I was like meeting one of my heroes, and I didn't want to geek out and be like, I'm such a huge fan of yours, you're such an inspiration. So I just like sent them a bunch of free stuff. I was like, I'm trying not to be overbearing because I know you're out of dinner, but like, hey, love you, love your work.

[28:19] Dan Rosales: Um, you're like, try the strawberry butter. Honestly, I was like, Do you want like uh dark and stormy? Do you need a like anything you need, please let me know. But he's literally crying, like serving his uh tears rolling down my eyes, just like with the check, like, please they came to the show, Tommy Kale, Alex Lackamore, and Lynn, and I told him this story, and he vividly remembers it because I think it was the day or two days before his wife gave birth, or maybe the week, whatever it was. And he's like, Yes, of course, we went out to Isabella's, and that was like one of our last meals out when we had together. I was like, Yeah, I was your server. He's like, What? No way. And he brought the list over and he was like, Yeah, do you remember this guy?

He was our server. It was just a weird, like full circle experience working at my survival job, having booked this amazing new parody job that really took off. Um, and it was really uh affirming in that sense, which was really fun.

[29:21] Dan Rosales: The show was a hoot, it was 90 minutes, you know, a parody of every single thing about Broadway and Hamilton. Yeah, um, and I mean, everyone remembers how hot Hamilton was slash is is still, I guess. So yeah, yeah, totally is. And people like lost their minds. I was like, okay, cool, I'm all here for it, you know.

[29:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, we and I'm gonna put you on the spot, Dan. Can you give us a little Lin little impression?

[29:46] Dan Rosales: Oh my gosh, I haven't leveled one up. Oh my gosh.

[29:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh yeah, it is 9 30 in the morning over there. You can decline if you want.

[29:56] Dan Rosales: Um, here I'll I'll decline here, but if you go to Spotify and you want to listen to our original cast album, it is out there for all its glory, and you can listen to my whiny nasal Lynn Manuel.

[29:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: My whiny nasal.

[30:12] Dan Rosales: That's so funny.

[30:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Um, so we're we're gonna wrap this up shortly. We have a couple more questions and then surprise. I uh we play a quick fun game at the end to just keep everything fun and happy.

[30:23] Dan Rosales: I love it.

[30:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love it. Um you know, you've had so many great experiences so far artistically. Do you have a dream role or a dream collaboration that would be like the end all be all for you?

[30:40] Dan Rosales: Um, do I have a dream role? I mean, I do think that I would love to talking about full circles still, make the full circle connection back to Hamilton, and that's something that I've had the experience and luckily enough to make it through several rounds to the very end, and it just hasn't been the right time yet. But I would love to, you know, work with Lynn in any capacity, and being in that show is definitely like I mean, we wouldn't want to be in that show, right? It's a huge bucket list. So I think I think that, or just working with him in general would be just a momentous occasion, working with another huge Latin icon being Latino myself, you know. I I think that would be really, really special.

[31:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: Love that. Okay, one last question for the really fun game. Do you have just one piece of advice for any actors that are trying to, you know, just moving to New York City or moving to LA or wherever they are, we're trying to get to that next level in their careers?

[31:41] Dan Rosales: Um, yeah, I guess it's I guess it would be twofold. I mean, the first, of course, is to never stop trying because you facts everyone's timeline is different, and we all know this, right? It's such a cliche, but like what happens to someone at 21 can also happen to someone at 51 or 61. You know, the success is not a straight line, it's it's ups and downs and peaks and valleys. But the second part to that is also find stuff that you love that necessarily involved in your dream or what you want your ultimate goal to be. It just makes you a a more rounded person that you can bring to whatever else you want or desire, you know.

[32:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know. You preaching, you're preaching, Mr. Dan.

[32:26] Jason A. Coombs: By the way, we heard in your first time survival jobs. Dan is going to be starring in Hamilton, and that's your first. We manifested it all together.

[32:37] Dan Rosales: Hey, Lynn.

[32:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: So you'll go.

[32:39] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, Lynn. If you're listening, definitely check out Rolling Calls, and then after just cast Dan. No big deal.

[32:47] Dan Rosales: Wait. Also, I'm sorry to plug this in last minute. Lynn's dad, Louise Miranda plays my dad in the podcast.

[32:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: Full circle again.

[32:56] Dan Rosales: Yes.

[32:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god, he plays your dad and you played Lynn.

[32:59] Dan Rosales: It's funny.

[33:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's so good.

[33:01] Dan Rosales: So funny at this point.

[33:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's meant to be.

[33:03] Dan Rosales: It is. I saw that. I saw the name in the cast list, and I was like, oh no, it's probably just another that's so crazy. Wow, that's wow.

[33:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: That can be chills.

[33:13] Dan Rosales: Oh, it's full circle.

[33:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. We're they're written, we're manifesting this. Come on, Dan. We're here for this. The three of us together. It was just 11, 11, 22, kinda. We're all here. Everything's connecting, and it's all gonna work out.

[33:28] Dan Rosales: I love it.

[33:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love it. Wow. Dan, thank you so much. This was so fun.

[33:33] Jason A. Coombs: You know what makes me laugh? Uh Jason about us every time we like talk about the game. We're like, we're gonna play a really fun game.

[33:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like, we haven't found a new way to just but it is, it's fun.

[33:44] Dan Rosales: Okay, I'm here for fun.

[33:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: So we're just gonna play a quick word association game. We're gonna say something, and then the first thing that comes to your mind, say it as quick as possible, whatever it is.

[33:57] Dan Rosales: Oh my god, 10 square on this show, if that's the first thing that comes.

[34:01] Jason A. Coombs: Approved by Broadway Worlds. When we have Lisa Lampinelli on, and I was like, hey, um, there's gonna be some explicit language. They were like, fine, totally fine.

[34:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, good to know.

[34:15] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, Dan, are you ready?

[34:18] Dan Rosales: Hold on, let me take a sip of this coffee. Hold on.

[34:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, get it going.

[34:23] Dan Rosales: The caffeine in the vein.

[34:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[34:25] Dan Rosales: Okay, I'm ready for the super fun game.

[34:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm ready.

[34:29] Jason A. Coombs: Sure.

[34:33] Jason A. Coombs: Survival job.

[34:35] Dan Rosales: Uh necessary.

[34:37] Jason A. Coombs: Hamilton.

[34:38] Dan Rosales: In it.

[34:40] Jason A. Coombs: Disney.

[34:43] Dan Rosales: New York City.

[34:46] Jason A. Coombs: Pigeon.

[34:50] Dan Rosales: Podcast.

[34:52] Jason A. Coombs: Survival jobs.

[34:54] Dan Rosales: Broadway.

[34:56] Jason A. Coombs: Uh help.

[34:59] Dan Rosales: John Lake was almost laptop.

[35:01] Jason A. Coombs: It says help right there.

[35:01] Dan Rosales: I don't know. It's John Lake Wasamo.

[35:06] Jason A. Coombs: Kiss my ass tech.

[35:08] Dan Rosales: Diva.

[35:10] Jason A. Coombs: Ooh, Eliza.

[35:13] Dan Rosales: Ooh.

[35:13] Jason A. Coombs: Lynn Manville Miranda.

[35:16] Dan Rosales: Full circle.

[35:20] Jason A. Coombs: Scrooge.

[35:22] Dan Rosales: Humbug.

[35:25] Jason A. Coombs: And last but not least, rolling calls.

[35:29] Dan Rosales: Listen on BPN.fm slash rolling calls, honey.

[35:34] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Thank you. And where can people follow you as well and become fans and support you?

[35:42] Dan Rosales: You can follow me on Twitter as it's slowly syncing at the Dan Rosano. You can follow me on Instagram and everything else at Dan Rosales. R-O-S-A-L-E-S. Everywhere.

[35:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: And if you're tuning in today because you're a Dan fan, which you should be, and you don't follow us yet, follow us on Instagram and Twitter. And the slowly swinking Twitter at survival jobs pod on Facebook at survival jobs a podcast. Shoot us an email. Let us know your thoughts at survival jobs pod at gmail.com. Follow me at Sammy Toots and my boy Jason at Jason A. Coombs.

[36:24] Jason A. Coombs: Dan! Thank you, thank you, thank you. It was so fun rolling with Dan today.

[36:28] Dan Rosales: Ah, Jason, good one.

[36:30] Jason A. Coombs: Rolling calls. We did a rolling Zoom call.

[36:34] Dan Rosales: Never mind.

[36:35] Jason A. Coombs: That was not land.

[36:37] Dan Rosales: It was close.

[36:38] Jason A. Coombs: You know what I mean? The air was there.

[36:40] Dan Rosales: I appreciate it.

[36:41] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[36:42] Dan Rosales: Thank you so much.

[36:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Everybody go listen.

[36:47] Dan Rosales: Thank you, Dan.

[36:48] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you. Thank you, Dan.