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[0:04] Jason A. Coombs: Hello everyone, welcome to Survival Jobs, the podcast in collaboration with Broadway World.

[0:10] Jason A. Coombs: I am Jason A. Coombs, and this is my amazing, beautiful co-hostess with the mostest, Samantha Tuozzolo.

[0:18] Jason A. Coombs: And Sam, before we begin, I just want to remind everyone that we are streaming audio on all podcast platforms, or you can watch our exclusive video here on Broadway World if that wasn't clear.

[0:29] Jason A. Coombs: How are you doing, girl?

[0:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hi, Jason. Happy Valentine's Day.

[0:34] Jason A. Coombs: It is Valentine's Day.

[0:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: For those of you who are hearing this on Thursday, we are recording from the past.

[0:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: And it is Valentine's Day.

[0:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: And on the video, I have this fun little t-shirt.

[0:45] Jason A. Coombs: That's so cute.

[0:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's a little blurry, but it's so cute.

[0:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: I killed self-defense.

[0:55] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I love that.

[0:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I'm sporting my hot pink beanie for two reasons.

[1:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: A, Valentine's Day.

[1:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: B, today our guest, which we'll talk about later after we gab a little, but our guest, Jordan, is from Bad Cinderella, and they're always like scored in hot pink and black.

[1:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I was trying to stay on theme. I was trying to be on brand.

[1:16] Jason A. Coombs: You were.

[1:17] Jason A. Coombs: You're on brand.

[1:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you so much. What's your temperature check?

[1:23] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, my temperature check. I am, let's see.

[1:27] Jason A. Coombs: I was gonna say I'm tired, but I feel like that's always my temperature check.

[1:31] Jason A. Coombs: No, I mean, we just recorded our trip shorted. I'm feeling so inspired.

[1:36] Jason A. Coombs: I know we always say that when we have a guest, but just his warmth and his energy and just the way he was just so free and loving and open was just so infectious, and I'm feeling that. That definitely came through our Zoom stream yard screens for me.

[1:55] Jason A. Coombs: So I'm feeling good. I'm feeling rejuvenated and so excited for this Valentine's Day. Thank you, Jordan.

[2:02] Jason A. Coombs: And you, Samantha.

[2:04] Jason A. Coombs: That hot pink looking fierce.

[2:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Definitely giving me energy.

[2:07] Jason A. Coombs: I'm just thanking the Bad Cinderella marketing team for making this the color.

[2:13] Jason A. Coombs: Every time, you know, shout out to Linedy Genao, which I think it's so cool that we had the princess, and now we have the prince.

[2:23] Jason A. Coombs: Because Jordan is playing the Prince, Prince Sebastian, and Linedy is literally playing Bad Cinderella.

[2:31] Jason A. Coombs: So we had the prince and princess, but every time I see this girl killing it, always like doing any sort of press for the show, she is in hot pink.

[2:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: And so I found this hat in my closet today, and I was like, oh, I'm wearing a hat for this whole interview just to stay on brand.

[2:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: And I was like, oh my god, it's also Valentine's Day.

[2:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I'm also, you know, repping the pink.

[2:52] Jason A. Coombs: Repping the pink.

[2:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: Love you.

[2:54] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[2:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: Speaking of the show and Linedy, this new single that came out.

[3:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: My god.

[3:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wait, wait, I just had the name up and now I've lost it.

[3:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: What is it called?

[3:10] Jason A. Coombs: You just had it.

[3:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wait.

[3:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know I have a heart.

[3:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know I have a heart.

[3:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Because you broke it.

[3:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: There's my very off key.

[3:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: But Linedy, y'all slays this single, it's on Spotify.

[3:26] Jason A. Coombs: You played it.

[3:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: That little clip I just said.

[3:30] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[3:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sometimes I come through with the vocals, but that was like not even any sort of pitch, but that's just where I'm at.

[3:36] Jason A. Coombs: No pitch, no pitch Tuesday.

[3:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: But yes, no pitch Tuesday.

[3:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I listened to this single like on repeat because I'm just so in awe of her, you know, she's so open on Instagram too about this whole process, and she's like talking about her imposter syndrome and like, oh my god, I'm so grateful.

[3:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like, what's happening? Like, this is a crazy process.

[4:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: And so always we knew she's gonna kill this and be amazing, but to hear that, I was just feeling such a sense of pride for her and so happy for her, and I cannot wait to see what happens when this show opens.

[4:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Not only her and Jordan, these two people.

[4:20] Jason A. Coombs: So we met Jordan for the first time today.

[4:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: What a nice, genuine human.

[4:27] Jason A. Coombs: And I said to him, I said I can just feel your nice energy coming through the screen.

[4:32] Jason A. Coombs: And it's so true when you say good things happen to good people.

[4:36] Jason A. Coombs: These two people are so good, and like this show I feel is gonna be iconic and such a marker in history for Broadway.

[4:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: So in conclusion, everyone, this episode's coming out on Thursday, February 16th.

[4:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: And the first preview of Bad Cinderella is Friday, February 17th.

[5:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: So, hey, people, get your tickets, figure out a way to get your body over to the Imperial Theater and check it out.

[5:12] Jason A. Coombs: Jason and I will be doing the same, so take following our lead.

[5:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, for sure.

[5:18] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, I didn't want to, I don't want to read too much because I was always researching our guests, but I was like, I don't want to spoil anything about this show because like, you know, I want to see the show without being spoiled.

[5:28] Jason A. Coombs: So I was like, I'm just gonna take a little quick peek at the cast list.

[5:30] Jason A. Coombs: I'll take a quick, quick, very quick summary.

[5:33] Jason A. Coombs: I listened to the single.

[5:34] Jason A. Coombs: So yeah, I'm excited to actually go and see it when that happens and to talk about it more with everybody.

[5:40] Jason A. Coombs: And to see, like I talk about with Jordan, there's so many people of color in the cast and that's really, really exciting.

[5:46] Jason A. Coombs: We need more and more and more on Broadway.

[5:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: So there we go.

[5:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Especially, you know, having such a diverse cast in a fairy tale that traditionally, you know, until we talked about like the Brandy Cinderella, you know, mostly, you know, white actors portraying or white cartoons.

[5:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: So to have this come in, you know, with this amazing cast, amazing diverse cast with this amazing talent, I think is gonna be so amazing and especially for little kids too to be like, oh, I'm a young black boy and look at that, I am the prince, you know, that representation is so important, you know, and I feel like I love that this production is kind of following the lead of the foundation at the Brandy, Whitney Houston, Paulo Montalban that we talked about in the episode foundation, like led, you know, seeing an Asian prince and a black princess and a black queen, Whoopi Goldberg, the black queen, you know, like how magical is that and see that continue on, you know, what, 25 years later, it's pretty incredible.

[5:51] Jason A. Coombs: You want to love Jordan?

[5:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: I do, I do.

[7:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know we already like, you know, gushed over him at the beginning of this little mic check.

[7:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: But you guys, this is a really good episode and we're so happy, you know, the timing that it's coming out.

[7:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: So everyone go get your tickets.

[7:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Jordan is just a gem, a peach, a talent, like genuine.

[7:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: And it's so refreshing.

[7:20] Jason A. Coombs: All of our guests are amazing, by the way.

[7:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: But it's so refreshing when we have these interviews where we're just so vulnerable, open, honest about everything.

[7:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Because you guys will hear, so I'm not gonna like recap the episode too much, but it's so important to be honest when you're at a level in this industry and when you're not.

[7:40] Jason A. Coombs: Because so many people want this goal and this dream and it's not all, it's not all roses.

[7:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Roses for Valentine's Day.

[7:50] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I mean, I think it's so important to hear that because I feel like, you know, people have this idea of like when you get to a certain level of success, like all your problems are gone, or like everything is great, everything's just like perfect, but you know, the more we talk to different people and the more you just realize like that's not always true.

[8:07] Jason A. Coombs: Like everyone has their struggles, everyone has their times when you're feeling up, when you're feeling down, no matter what level you're on, you know.

[8:14] Jason A. Coombs: It's like we're all human at the end of the day, we're all going through stuff and trying to figure it out and, you know, community, mentorship, allyship is so important, so it's keeping people uplifted.

[8:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: So love that we talked about that as well in this episode.

[8:28] Jason A. Coombs: Me too.

[8:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Me too.

[8:30] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[8:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wait, and this really quickly also, we did have a little bit of a little technical issue, so you might hear a little bit of a little fuzziness coming through.

[8:40] Jason A. Coombs: So forgive us.

[8:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know it doesn't seem like we're still in a pandemic, but we aren't able to record in person still, so forgive us if we hear anything that doesn't sound a hundred percent.

[8:50] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you, Jason.

[8:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I didn't mean to cut you off.

[8:54] Jason A. Coombs: No, I cut you off all of the time.

[8:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Not intentionally.

[8:59] Jason A. Coombs: One point in an interview, I was giving you time to talk, and then you didn't.

[9:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: I was like, oh because you know what?

[9:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: I feel like that happens like when I do like talking and I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna speak.

[9:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Then you do, then there's like a pause, and then when it's like, yeah, yeah, then when you're speaking, I'm like blah blah blah.

[9:18] Jason A. Coombs: So it's funny.

[9:19] Jason A. Coombs: We'll figure it out one day after episode, what is this, 64?

[9:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, maybe, you know, we'll get to be back in person.

[9:26] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, not back if we never actually done this podcast in person.

[9:29] Jason A. Coombs: Maybe one day we'll get to be in person with guests.

[9:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: You know, maybe season three.

[9:34] Jason A. Coombs: We don't know, we don't know.

[9:36] Jason A. Coombs: Some things are in the works.

[9:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: So maybe one day, yeah, because then we'll be able to feel each other's like energy a bit better of like the flow of interview versus virtual.

[9:50] Jason A. Coombs: It's kind of hard.

[9:51] Jason A. Coombs: It's hard to look at you and the guest and the interview questions.

[9:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: And the questions, yeah.

[9:59] Jason A. Coombs: But you know what, guys? We're doing the best we can.

[10:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, it's like Mariah Carey.

[10:03] Jason A. Coombs: You ever seen the Mariah Carey video when she's like drunk on stage and she's like, I'll do the best I can with what I got?

[10:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, she's like wasted, it's great.

[10:17] Jason A. Coombs: She's like, I'm doing the best I can with what I got, and she's like yelling at the audience.

[10:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's how I feel.

[10:23] Jason A. Coombs: That's how I feel.

[10:27] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, anyway, back to Jordan Dobson.

[10:31] Jordan Dobson: Jordan Dobson, who is currently playing Prince Sebastian in Bad Cinderella on Broadway.

[10:38] Jason A. Coombs: Some of his other Broadway credits include Hadestown as Orpheus, A Beautiful Noise as Shiloh in the original Broadway cast, and West Side Story as Tony.

[10:51] Jason A. Coombs: Some select regional credits include Austin's Pride, Into the Woods, both at ACT of Connecticut, which shout out Connecticut.

[10:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: We love Connecticut.

[10:59] Jason A. Coombs: And shout out to ACT, by the way.

[11:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sorry to sidetrack.

[11:03] Jason A. Coombs: ACT is a very beautiful theater in Connecticut.

[11:06] Jason A. Coombs: If you guys are in the Connecticut area and can go support, it's a really great space.

[11:22] Jason A. Coombs: Upcoming film credit includes William and Netflix Maestro, directed by Bradley Cooper.

[11:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's pretty Broadway.

[11:37] Jason A. Coombs: Wow, we both had some good notes today.

[11:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Keep it coming, Jason.

[11:41] Jason A. Coombs: No.

[11:42] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[11:43] Jason A. Coombs: That was nice.

[11:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't want the Lady Gaga to get mad at me.

[11:46] Jason A. Coombs: To come for you.

[11:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[11:50] Jason A. Coombs: All right.

[11:51] Jason A. Coombs: Anyway, enjoy this episode, you guys, and go see Bad Cinderella.

[11:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: Awesome.

[11:57] Jason A. Coombs: Welcome to the show, Jordan.

[11:59] Jordan Dobson: Congrats on Bad Cinderella starting previews.

[12:03] Jason A. Coombs: I can hear your theater.

[12:05] Jordan Dobson: Yes, thanks so much for having me.

[12:08] Jordan Dobson: I'm super excited.

[12:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: We are super excited as well.

[12:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: By the way, we're also so happy because you're playing Prince Sebastian in Bad Cinderella.

[12:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: And we've already had your princess on the show.

[12:22] Jason A. Coombs: So now we've had the Prince and Princess.

[12:25] Jordan Dobson: Yes, Linedy.

[12:26] Jordan Dobson: We had her like a full year ago.

[12:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: So I think it's like awesome.

[12:31] Jordan Dobson: Which is so wild.

[12:32] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[12:33] Jordan Dobson: And I guess like right oh, or before she even was announced for Cinderella, right?

[12:39] Jordan Dobson: Yes.

[12:39] Jordan Dobson: Before it was announced, but then come to find out she had known.

[12:43] Jordan Dobson: So she was like keeping the secret during the interview, which she did not like.

[12:48] Jordan Dobson: We both knew for like almost a year before it was announced, and then we were just like sitting on the secret for so long.

[12:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, which is kind of wild.

[12:58] Jordan Dobson: That's such a hard secret to keep. Good job.

[13:01] Jordan Dobson: It is.

[13:01] Jordan Dobson: I was not the best at it.

[13:03] Jordan Dobson: She was better than I was.

[13:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, we're definitely gonna talk a lot about Bad Cinderella as we get in.

[13:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: And by the way, not to make it about me, but guys, I'm in full hot pink.

[13:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's the Bad Cinderella vibe.

[13:15] Jordan Dobson: So I just wanted to come in the vibe for you, Jordan.

[13:18] Jordan Dobson: Yes, and you look great.

[13:19] Jordan Dobson: I love the hot pink.

[13:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you.

[13:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: But before we talk about all of the performance things and all of the Bad Cinderella things, let's talk a little bit about survival jobs.

[13:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: So to kick it off, why do you think and do you think there's like a judgment around the term survival job and artists doing it?

[13:49] Jordan Dobson: Um, yeah, I think there is a judgment, and I think it comes from privilege of those who don't have to have a survival job.

[13:59] Jordan Dobson: Um, or those who do not or have a job that is their career and aren't going after something risky, like the arts, and they say like, oh, you know, you'll be a starving artist, or things like that.

[14:13] Jordan Dobson: Um, or even within the arts community those who don't need that financial support.

[14:13] Jordan Dobson: Um, yeah, I think there is some judgment that comes from that which I hope, I mean I think your podcast is definitely dissipating that and shining light on the fact that we all, I mean so many of us have survival jobs and continue to have them ever even after, you know, being on Broadway or before whatever that journey is.

[14:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: So yeah, that's so true. Like we've had so many guests who've been on Broadway and then, you know, their show ends and then they have to go back to our survival job and then they book something else. It's just part of some of our journeys, you know, in a way.

[14:13] Jordan Dobson: Totally.

[14:13] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[14:13] Jordan Dobson: Do you have a favorite survival job?

[15:01] Jordan Dobson: Oh, in your past, yeah, I guess, yeah, my favorite, I've had two since moving to New York. I once was a roommate matchmaker, which basically, fun, wait, it's like Valentine's Day. You're a matchmaker for roommates, which I thought I would just be like, oh, there's an apartment and this roommate would be good with this one and like their bios seem like they're both, you know, like computer engineers, like they're gonna be great roommates together. No, I was basically like a real estate agent without a license, and I was not ready for what I was getting into. Like I was like showing people apartments. I was like, yeah, this is a six bedroom, two bath, like, and had no clue what I was talking about. You know, they were like, are utilities included? And I'd be like, let's circle back to that, you know. I had no clue.

[15:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: You didn't lie, so that's good.

[15:53] Jordan Dobson: Right. Where I did lie sometimes, which is so terrible, isn't actually my favorite survival job where I was a waiter at this restaurant, and I was just really bad at it. Like I would mess up orders all the time, and I don't know, but I loved, I loved the job because I could just like talk to people and get to know people. But I would just, I would mess up all the time, and then I always lied about when people would order cappuccinos because you would have to stop everything you're doing. All of your tables would be on hold for you to make a cappuccino, and I was bad at it, I couldn't get the milk to foam. So I would lie and be like, sorry, the espresso machine is down. And then the table next to them, like sends a cappuccino.

Yeah, yeah. It's like six, my co-worker is like making other cappuccinos. I'm like, oh yeah, no, it started working again, but have a good day. Or I would also lie about like almond milk was really hard to foam, at least for me. So I'd be like, oh, sorry, we don't do almond milk. I'm like, this is so terrible. I know I can't believe I'm admitting this, but yeah, I fully lied about those things because I was just stressed and scared.

[17:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's stressful and scary.

[17:08] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, I've never served before.

[17:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[17:11] Jordan Dobson: We fully have been there with the lies and the stress and the scares, so we get it.

[17:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I still have nightmares about working at Starbucks sometimes.

[17:20] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my god, you didn't.

[17:22] Jordan Dobson: I can imagine. I would get so scared about opening wine for people, which I can open wine bottles, but under pressure in front of the table. Oh my gosh, yeah. There was a table where I broke two of the corks. That's about it. Because I was just, yeah, back to back. And then so I was like, okay, haha, third time's a charm. Because I would just like try to be charming to like make things work. And then the cork went in the bottle the third time. Yeah. And then so I had to ask my manager to open wine for me. And then my solution was like whenever someone would be like, order a bottle of wine and not a glass, I would get a coworker and be like, hey, I'll give you some of my tips if you go present their wine and open it for them and pour it for them. And I'll like, you know, just give you a pool of my tips. So that was my way to get through it.

[18:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's so funny.

[18:14] Jordan Dobson: What Jason and I worked in a restaurant together for quite some time. And one of our co-workers used to go to the server station and say, hey, please open this bottle, and then I'll bring it. So she wasn't even like that. I'm sure I did that a couple times.

[18:31] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, I'm talking about Allie. Shout out to Allie.

[18:38] Jordan Dobson: So it was ultimately okay that she wasn't like doing the presentation, but that's pretty cool. I think everyone has like a little trauma with the wine bottles.

[18:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god.

[18:50] Jordan Dobson: I'm glad you got it. Especially when you're like 14 people looking at you.

[18:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know.

[18:54] Jordan Dobson: I know for sure. If you have like a shitty opener that doesn't work, it's like negative, negative, negative.

[19:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right.

[19:03] Jordan Dobson: I'm used to the ones like with the, it kind of looks like arms that go up, and then you press it down.

[19:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love those.

[19:09] Jordan Dobson: Me too.

[19:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: But we weren't allowed to use those in the restaurant. You had to use that screw.

[19:14] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[19:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[19:16] Jordan Dobson: I said screw. Okay, so the restaurant was your favorite.

[19:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Was the favorite. Was the roommate matching your least favorite, or do you have like another least favorite survival job or like a terrible survival job story you can share?

[19:31] Jordan Dobson: Um, yeah, I guess the roommate matchmaking was the least favorite because I was just, I felt like bamboozled. Oh, come in. That was one of my castmates handing out Valentine's, which is so sweet. Oh, and Riley. She's incredible, like truly wonderful, but and giving out Valentine's because it's Valentine's Day. That's the Larkin. Shout out to Lucky Riley. Thank you so much for coming by. My dresser might pop by and it's like he just has to, you know, butts with some costumes. So tell him to come say hi. Yeah, this is what it's all about. It's like the exciting of like, you know, preview week. It's what, yeah, tech week right before previews. Everyone's, you know, getting the last minute touches together. So yeah. Broadway. But yeah, so roommate matchmaking. I felt like a little bamboozled into being a real estate agent. I was like, I'm not prepared for this. But with that, a terrible survival job story was I was doing dog walking, like on WAG, the app.

[20:42] Jordan Dobson: Oh my god, yeah. There was this one dog that just like wouldn't want to come. And the owner said that she had a bad back, the dog, and I was like, okay, like I'll get the harness on, like be super careful. And so I'm being super gentle. Finally, I get this dog outside of the house. There's a little staircase. Oh, this is so terrible. The dog fell down the staircase. And I panicked. I just like put the dog back in the house and just stayed with the dog and just like pet it and just like left after I knew the dog was okay, and I just like told, you know, like told the owner, and that was the last dog I ever walked. That was so cool. Like I can't do this trauma anymore. No, that was like the worst situation. I was like, did I break this dog's back? Like, I have no clue.

[21:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: So that I've never durable.

[21:40] Jordan Dobson: They're pretty, they can survive a little bit.

[21:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[21:43] Jordan Dobson: Yeah. That's when I started waiting tables.

[21:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: What kind of dog was it?

[21:48] Jordan Dobson: Yeah. Um, I think it was like, I'm not good at dog breeds, like, I never have a clue, but the corgis have the short legs, right?

[21:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[21:57] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, I think it was a corgi or like a mix or something like that.

[22:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love these.

[22:02] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, they're so cute. And your little butts be like, yeah. Um, but never again. I have a cat, I'm great with my cat, and that's really it for me.

[22:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Cats are independent.

[22:19] Jordan Dobson: They are, and easy with our lifestyle as artists.

[22:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: So right, you can get that like automatic feeder. My friends have this automatic feeder for their cat that like they can record their name and be like, kitty, like feeding time.

[22:35] Jordan Dobson: Yes, my friend has that too, and I really want to get one.

[22:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, because you can like, you can talk to them.

[22:41] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, which is so cool. I can be like, Lemon.

[22:43] Jordan Dobson: Lemon is the name of my cat. Lemon! Sometimes I call her lemony snicket. Like many, many different types of like nicknames that I have for her.

[22:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, that's so cute.

[22:54] Jordan Dobson: Oh my god. So yeah, I gotta get one of those automatic feeders. That'd be great. Wait, when's your birthday?

[23:00] Jordan Dobson: September 13th, I'm a Virgo.

[23:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my god, it's my best friend Sierra's birthday.

[23:03] Jordan Dobson: Well my, oh my goodness. Gotta get him a feeder someone out there for September 13th. Hey Brock Everald, if you're listening, Bobby Brothers, can you fund the feeder? Thank you.

[23:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Right. Thank you in advance.

[23:16] Jordan Dobson: It's also Bella Swan's birthday from Twilight.

[23:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like not Kristen Stewart, but the guy's gonna be a good one.

[23:22] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, actually.

[23:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[23:25] Jordan Dobson: Do you feel connected to her?

[23:27] Jordan Dobson: I do. I do. Like I really think those movies are so fun. I've never read the books, but the movies are just a hoot to me.

[23:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: So yeah, I have a great time watching them.

[23:39] Jordan Dobson: Definitely Team Jasper going up.

[23:41] Jason A. Coombs: Oh Jason, that's a good one.

[23:46] Jordan Dobson: Yeah. I get that. I mean, like, I loved Alice because she's just so like weird and like frivolous.

[23:52] Jordan Dobson: And then badass, yeah. And also, you know that this is gonna be a lot like, you know that um that scene where they're playing baseball, and she's like, yeah, like a full bot mod of the I'm like a bot mod. She's like, ah, it's so wild and incredible, and it's like the perfect amount of camp for me. So I'm, I love the baseball scene.

[24:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: It is so fun.

[24:15] Jordan Dobson: Those are like, she's like kicking her face.

[24:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, it's gonna hurt a little bit because I'm not stretched, but you know, we'll worry about that later.

[24:30] Jordan Dobson: I got really excited. I loved it. It was perfect. And I was gonna say those listening to the audio, you gotta like tune to the video now because Jordy did a whole demonstration.

[24:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, watch the video.

[24:41] Jordan Dobson: Oh Jesus.

[24:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh. Well, I love that. I love that little sidetrack that we've got a little Twilight there, but back to Bad Cinderella. Congrats again. And would you mind sharing a little bit of the process of um sorry I can't see my question here? Great, Samantha, I totally ruined that. Um, what was the process for like being part of the original cast of Andrew Lloyd Webber's newest musical? Did you like have to audition? Did you get multiple auditions and callbacks?

[25:14] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, I definitely auditioned. I think they asked me to come in person, and I was in Philly visiting my family because I had just finished Hades Town and I was like, that was so crazy. I wanted to be with my family, so I was like, no, I'm not coming in. If you want a video, I would love to do a video, but I've been like that whole year, I was like, family, I have to prioritize my family. Because it's so hard sometimes in this business. So I was like, where's your family from?

[25:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Philly.

[25:46] Jordan Dobson: So luckily not far. Yeah. So when I go home, I try to leave work and just go home. But I was like, I'll even make that exception. Like I'll do a video if they're down for that, and they were. So then I got back to New York and they were like, come in. I think I did maybe four or five callbacks, including chemistry tests with different Cinderellas and with Linetti and which was really magical because it was just so clear when her and I got together, I was like, I love her. She's so cool. And I had known of her for a while, and it was funny because someone that she had played opposite with was in for Sebastian and someone that I had played opposite with was in for Cinderella. So I was like, oh, they're pairing us up based on chemistry from other shows. And I was like, oh, it's gonna be Linetti and that other person, or maybe me and this other person. So I was like, uh, it probably won't work out. And then it was both of us, and I was like, Yes!

[26:46] Jordan Dobson: So that was super cool. And oh, um, come in. Oh, thank you so much. Oh, thank you. A Valentine. Oh, everyone here is so sweet on Valentine. That is sweet. Oh my gosh, you can open it. I think it's from, I'll open it as I tell the story. I'm using a nail filer as a little open. That works. But yeah, so then we got it and we did a little workshop, like a week-long workshop, um, with just a few members of the cast, you know, go over script changes, and then I had met up with Andrew a few times to just like go over possible new songs or reworking reworking scenes from songs. Oh, it's from Tregony. She's so sweet, she's so wonderful. She's in the ensemble. Tregony. She covers the queen and the stepmother. It says you're waffly sweet. That is so cute. So cute. And there's a little dark chocolate bar here. Oh, this cast is really the best. Like everyone is so nice, so down to just like have a great time and spread love, which is such a blessing.

[28:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: Is that like also what it's all about? You know, we do it for the art, but like for the community as well.

[28:07] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, we picked something that is so fun and what we love to do, so let's love to do it, you know?

[28:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[28:14] Jordan Dobson: Um, yeah, so anyway, and then so I'd have these like one-on-ones, or maybe me and Lynetti with Andrew and the music team about, you know, reworking songs, and then we started rehearsals like months after that. So all of this time, like the workshop and working with the team, like still the we have we were keeping the secret. Like no one can know where I am, like where I'm going, and yeah, um so then finally right before rehearsals they announced it, and then we started proper in the rehearsal room, which was just super exciting. That's so Broadway.

[28:55] Jordan Dobson: And then we went with Andrew, and I'm like, I know so iconic. Like this is huge. Yeah, it was really wild because he's so casual about who he is, you know. Like he was in my auditions and I didn't realize like they were like, Oh, and you know, like Andrew's gonna be here, and I was like, Oh, like that's probably like an intern at Tyre Rubin or something like that. Like, you know, back then I was like Andrew Lloyd Webber, you know, like you say the full name. Um they're just like, oh, just Andrew. And you know, now after working with him, like I'm not gonna call him Andrew Lloyd Webber every single time. No, I refer to him as Andrew, and I see why that confused me the first time. I was like, oh, just like some guy Andy, you know.

But he's like that, he's so casual and so chill. Um, and often doesn't realize like the stakes of like walking in to like sing for him. He's just like, yeah, we're just gonna sing. And I'm like, okay. Like freaking out. Good old Andy. Good old Andy. Um, so that's just been really wild, but fun. Um, yeah, just like making this show with the cast. Um, this cast, as I said, it's just so special. And Andrew, his like big thing is he's like, let's just have fun doing this. It's a fun show. Let's all have a good time. Theater is back, you know, we're out of uh out of shutdown, like, and everyone is down to clown. Like the comedians in this show are ridiculous. Yeah. And I love it. I'm just learning so much. So I feel very blessed with this process.

[30:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, well, we can't wait to come and see it. Uh, and by the way, we don't know anything about this show other than you know, the little like Instagram snippets, and so can you let us as well as our listeners know? Like, give us a little pitch on why we should all go get our tickets, and also what are you looking forward to the most upcoming in the run?

[31:04] Jordan Dobson: Wow. Um, what I'm looking forward to most is really like I said, making people laugh, um, making people feel good, and also for people to see the show and the story and be inspired by Cinderella, the character and by Linady as a person of like standing in your power of being who you are, and not shifting for anybody else. And even if you do, and even if you do feel like oh, I'm succumbing to pressure from society, finding your way back because we all do. No one is perfect, and it's like I'm 100,000 percent myself all the time. Like, we are always pressured in some way. So the journey of also finding your way back to who you are and standing true in that, I think is so important, and the way Linetti does that is so magical, and because it's so authentic to who she is, and saying we have an alternate for Cinderella, Savvy Jackson, who also has her own very specific journey with Cinderella, and the way she finds that is really really beautiful.

Um so getting to do it with them both is also like such a cool experience. Um but yeah, I think that that journey that she goes on and inspires my character to go on as well. I'm so excited for the audience to see that for young people to see that, and even for non-young people, um like older folks to reflect and to you know, there's never there's never a bad time to be like, am I being truly authentic to who I am right now? Um all while having a good laugh and seeing these beautiful things and you know, just like having a great time, so it's super fun.

[32:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that. That's so amazing. I'm so excited for you. Oh my gosh, your energy is so infectious.

[32:56] Jordan Dobson: Oh, thank you. You're literally so nice.

[32:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know. I'm like smiling. I'm like, wow, what a nice thanks.

[33:04] Jordan Dobson: Oh, this is hurting around smiling the whole time. It's funny because everyone in the show is very mean to my character. Like, no one no one is nice to Prince Sebastian, except for Cinderella. Um so I'm like, and this cast is so nice, but hearing that, I'm like, oh shucks. I'm about to go through two hours of like getting yelled at so thank you.

[33:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Of course, of course. Maybe I needed that.

[33:34] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah. I can tell, I can tell. Um, in addition to the upcoming Bad Cinderella, you've had many awesome credits, including Hadestown and West Side Story. But has there been a time in your artistic journey where you wanted to quit? So what was that moment like and what kept you going?

[33:50] Jordan Dobson: Yeah. Yeah, I definitely wanted to quit. Um the pandemic, as many of us I think went through of like, is art really for me? Um yeah, just like thinking that it's never gonna come back kind of makes you in a way grapple and almost heal with the fact that it's not coming back and justify why you don't want to do it is that that was my experience. I can't speak for anyone else. But I found myself being like, it's not gonna happen, at least not for a while, and subconsciously being like, Well, what are the reasons that I don't want to do this? And like, why will it not work out for me? Um, oh I didn't mean to get emotional, but um yeah, it's kind of a scary thing to think about because when you love it so much, um you know, like you don't always get to do it, it's such a privilege.

So those times were hard, and also coming to terms with the business side of what we do was really difficult for me. Um in many different instances in my career on Broadway and outside of Broadway. Um so just like learning that the art is one part of it and the business is another part of it, was really difficult for me at first until I realized that like I'm an artist and a business person at the same time. And I had to learn how to be a business person so that it didn't affect me so much. And I didn't feel so um unprepared to for the business. Um, Lynette went to business school, so she she knew all about it, and I had no idea I was just I was singing, dancing and acting in school, which prepared me for a few things, but not for everything.

Um but luckily I've worked with a lot of really wonderful people and people who have been in the business for a long time who have taken me under their wing. Specifically, I just want to shout out Amber Gray because she is someone who really carried me um specifically in Hadestown, but just throughout. And Grace McLean does that for me here. Um she plays my mom in the show, and you know, these really wonderful women who have just seen me as this guy, like still figuring things out on Broadway, and being like, you know, I can help, you know, and and um so finding these relationships has been such a blessing. Um and yeah, yeah, I'm just very grateful for for that, and and especially in times of being like, I don't know if I'm meant for this, or I don't know if I can do this or continue to do this. Um, the sense of community that is in this field is something so special and makes me uh so uh so emotional. Um, it's it's really a blessing.

[36:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's so beautiful. I know, and it is so true. You know, this is hard, you know. You know, Jason and I talk about it a lot on this show, especially our journeys and and our feelings of ups and downs, and you need the people to hold you up, right? And that's how success happens when you're surrounded by positive people and people who believe in you. Thank you for being so open with that. That's really beautiful.

[37:15] Jordan Dobson: Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Thank y'all. I mean for asking. I think it's important to hear that at every level, right? No matter if you're on Broadway or if you're just starting out, community is is always so important. Finding, I always say like finding your tribe. It's like in Sky Girls, so your success, I feel like, is it's kind of hard to do it alone, you know? It's it's much easier to get burnt out and to not keep going without people uplifting you, like you said.

[37:41] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I think impossible to do it alone, too. Like no matter what anyone says, yeah.

[37:46] Jordan Dobson: I think I think you can't do it by yourself. And in thinking of that, um, someone else, like Eva Nobozada, she's someone who speaks up so much about mental health in this field, um, which I appreciate and it's helped me with my own journey there, and um helped me feel like I can speak up about it, and uh not everything has to be like, oh, I'm on stage or I'm in my dressing room, and it's like or I'm in my dressing room, like having a hard time, you know. Um it's not all glitz and glam, and sometimes it is, and it's wonderful, but also we're human beings and we are all going through things. So I think the more people that shine a light on that, and she is someone who very much does in this business. Um, I think is a great thing, and I think will help help our field keep moving in the right direction and in an honest direction. Um so yeah, I just wanted to just put that in there as well.

[38:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, and that's so important, especially for a lot of our listeners to hear who are, you know, dreaming of this life and and the journey to hear that it's not all peaches and cream, you know, that you'll have survival jobs and even when you are at a level as yourself with you know intern Andy, there's still the struggles.

[39:03] Jordan Dobson: Right. And it's okay.

[39:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: And it's okay. And it's all part of it.

[39:09] Jordan Dobson: It is, and it's a beautiful journey. You know, looking at the highs and the lows, it is there's beauty in all of it. Um, so yeah, I just feel very blessed. And I hope that the listeners hear that and they're like, Yeah, because before before Broadway or before success in the arts, there are highs and there are lows. And in survival jobs, there are highs and there are lows. Like I have felt just as high at my survival job as I have on an opening night of Broadway, but also just as low. So you gotta I think we gotta acknowledge both. So thank y'all for um creating the space where we can talk about thank you for being so open. We love that. Jason and I are sucker, sucker, suckers for some inspiration and some deep talk. So we love when we get to go a little deep, right, Jay.

[39:55] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, like I'm tearing up over here. Thank you.

[39:57] Jordan Dobson: So cheesy. Thank you though.

[40:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: So Jordan, I know that you've been so busy in rehearsals and just inhaling Bad Cinderella and Andrew Lloyd Webber's music, but is there anything else right now that's feeding your soul creatively? Any shows, any books, any new albums, any songs that is like fueling your art?

[40:20] Jordan Dobson: Yes. Yes, there are so many. I mean, I just did um well not justice, but uh a bit ago, the drama podcast, um, which shout out to them. They're awesome. Um I talked about my favorite artist. Her name is Jensen McCrae, and uh, she's a singer-songwriter, and her music inspires me so much, and I write music as well. Um, and I really look up to her as a musician, as a songwriter. Um, so whenever I can, I throw her on just to be inspired, and when I do have the time to write my own music and sit down or tinker with songs that I've already written. Um, I just feel like myself again a bit, and yeah, as far as music, that's what is like fueling me and fueling my artistry. Um, but I do have a favorite book that I've just been I keep rereading it over and over again, or like listening to the audiobook on my way to work, just because it's like a comfort book for me.

And it's um Circe by Madeline Miller, and it's about Circe the Greek goddess, yeah, and um who appears in the Odyssey, but it's told from her point of view, and I don't know, I really love mythology, and it's Madeline Miller does this beautiful, has this beautiful gift of like retelling mythology through a different lens and and through this female lens, and I find it incredibly powerful, and um they're making an HBO series based off the book, which I'm so excited for. Also like trying to manifest left to be in it, like that would be such a dream.

[42:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, so hope HBO, if you hear me, please, please.

[42:05] Jordan Dobson: Um, I love mythology of of any background. Um, so I'm just like such a nerd for it. So that's really fueling me right now. And um yeah, anything anything mystical I just find so fun, which is why like Hadestown was such a blast. Like I had I was like, oh I'm just like vibing in this like mystical thing. So that was cool. I love that show. That was a that was the last show I saw before the pandemic.

[42:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Whoa, really?

[42:35] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, I saw my birthday. My birthday's like in January, so I remember I go in, and I was like, that's my thing for my birthday. Um early days of the pandemic, to be honest, that music. So yeah, yeah, it's so cool, such a beautiful story. Um so yeah, yeah, hoping for this HBO series, like whether I'm a part of it or not, just like I'm excited either way for Circe by Madeline Miller, um, who also wrote Song of Achilles, which I'm a nerd about that too. Um yeah, and other than that, I just try and like take walks or do puzzles. I mean, like, it's all a little boring, but I love puzzles. Um puzzles too. Yeah, so I just try and chill with my cat, do my old puzzle. She just watches me, or sometimes like we'll gnaw out the pieces, um, and listen to my audiobooks and I don't have much time to cook.

[43:25] Jordan Dobson: Like I really like to cook, but I take all day if I'm gonna cook a meal. I want to like go to the grocery store, pick out the ingredients, you know, put on some music, chop the onions slowly, like you know, so hopefully once we're open, I'll have time for that.

[43:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[43:41] Jordan Dobson: Um, but yeah, anything that just like brings me back to myself and usually it's like reading, writing music, and doing puzzles.

[43:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's beautiful.

[43:52] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[43:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Cool. So I was I was doing a little research on Bad Cinderella, and I didn't want to get sp I didn't want to see any spoilers. So I was like trying to be very cautious. But I was looking at the cast and it looked so diverse, right? There's so many people of color like on the on the on the website under the casting creative. So my question is to tie this all in together is do you have um any advice or like maybe any ideas of how Broadway could be even more inclusive to performers of color out there as someone who's a person of color?

[44:26] Jordan Dobson: Yes, 100%. I think one producers need to produce more more works that of writers of color. Um you know, and and not only produce that work, but advertise it and market it, not only to the normal Broadway, you know, like the formula for how however they market Broadway shows, but to a community that that it the show is reflecting. Um I feel like we've seen a lot of closures of Broadway shows lately, and a lot of them have been about people of color. And I feel like if we really advertise to those communities and um lift up those communities and make it accessible for them, um then we can have more representation and more um more more color and more diversity in general in the new generation of performers because who goes into performing without being exposed to it?

And if you don't have access to seeing art and seeing theater, then you know, you're you're most likely not gonna pursue it. Um so I think accessibility is the biggest thing. Um, and it's something I want to learn more about as far as the business and how to make that work because I know that Broadway is a business, and there you know, you have to sell a certain amount of tickets and how much money, but how can there be a way that we make it accessible and still allow it to survive financially so that we can have more diversity in every way on stage, backstage, behind the table, on the producing team as well. Um I feel so lucky that my cast is uh a diverse cast, and you know, we we celebrate that and we feel wonderful about it, but there's always more work to be done, so um snaps.

[46:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm excited for the future because I think we are always making little steps, and I'm excited for you know, when some every now and then there's a big step and some more little steps or little steps. Um so it is a journey, but it's a journey that I'm here for and that I hope to, you know, help be a part of and a leader of in any way that I can.

[46:45] Jordan Dobson: So you already are a part of it, so that's beautiful, and just keep it going.

[46:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you. And you know what, like a fun little anecdote. I ran into Paolo, who um, and I can't believe I'm blanking on his last name, but he played the Prince in Cinderella, the brandy movie.

[47:06] Jordan Dobson: Yes, yes, that's it.

[47:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I really like my favorite version of Cinderella.

[47:10] Jordan Dobson: Me too, me too, until now.

[47:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, yes, exactly. There we go. Um But I ran into him in a restaurant, and it was really such a magical moment because he was one of those people for me, just as a person of color in general, and of course Brandy, but you know, I've yet to meet Brandy, and I hope that happens someday. But you know, being Cinderella's prince and seeing that cast of Cinderella in that in that film was such an important thing to me as a kid. Um so being a black Cinderella's prince. I was like, you know, like you were the first prince of color that I've ever seen. I've and Brandy is the first black princess that I've ever seen. That was huge to me. Um so running into him in person and getting to talk to him and tell him what that movie meant to me while doing our version of Cinderella with two leads of color as well, playing Cinderella and the Prince was the coolest thing and the most full circle thing.

Um I like totally cried and I'm like trying to hold back tears now. But um yeah, it's just I think a really I don't I think the universe was just like, hey, like you're doing the right thing. Like I'm just gonna put you in this situation with someone that you watched on TV as a kid who is doing what you're currently doing right now, who who did what you're doing right now. Um showing little kids that you can be of color and and be a prince and be royalty. And um I it was it was just uh really just pure magic that moment. Um and he was so kind and so sweet.

[48:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: So thank you, Paolo.

[48:56] Jordan Dobson: Oh, he's just the sweetest person. I follow him on on the gram too.

[49:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: On the gram.

[49:01] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, I have a picture with him. I've yet to put I'll post it at some point.

[49:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, he should.

[49:05] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, yeah. He's really wonderful. That's a really beautiful moment. I'm so happy that you got to have that.

[49:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. Like, life is life is weird. The fact that the universe put put you in the same spot as him randomly at this time in your life. Like while you're doing this, is so cool.

[49:25] Jordan Dobson: Yeah. What are the odds?

[49:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: What are the odds?

[49:28] Jordan Dobson: And he was like, I know you're the prince in Funerella. I was like, I'm the prince in badella.

[49:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know your prince.

[49:37] Jordan Dobson: I'm your bad Prince.

[49:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: All right, yeah, exactly. I did the little kick for those who can't see. I did the kick.

[49:43] Jordan Dobson: Your kick, you your kick when you were um demonstrating the twilight scene was excellent.

[49:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know we're at it. But that kick was iconic.

[49:54] Jordan Dobson: And I'm gonna go.

[49:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you so much. This was so much fun.

[50:01] Jordan Dobson: Oh my goodness. Yeah, thank y'all. What a great way to start the day and to like go into this uh dress rehearsal for the show. Like I'm gonna go in smiling so much.

[50:12] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, thank you for spending Valentine's morning with us. That's so awesome.

[50:15] Jordan Dobson: Oh yes, yeah. And yeah, thank you for having me and happy Valentine's Day. And you both are waffling sweet. My dear Tragon gave me this Valentine.

[50:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, I'm not sure if if we told you, but we do play a really quick fun game at the end, so not gonna take up too much more of your time.

[50:36] Jordan Dobson: Oh if you have like four more minutes for us.

[50:38] Jordan Dobson: Oh my goodness, I love a game, yeah.

[50:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, yeah, I've got plenty of time. We love to like bring it back to keeping it fun and giggly.

[50:46] Jordan Dobson: Yeah, yes, the clown, right?

[50:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, come in. We're playing a game. Come on in.

[50:52] Jordan Dobson: Come on in.

[50:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Come say hey. I'm doing a quick podcast. This is one of our SMs, Alfredo.

[50:58] Jordan Dobson: Hi, Alfredo.

[51:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're on Broadway World. And just gave me a Valentine's Day. Thank you.

[51:05] Jordan Dobson: Happy Valentine's Day.

[51:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that. I'm so jealous. You're gonna have like a thousand Valentines all over your dressing room.

[51:13] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[51:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. So in honor of Bassonorella and Fairy Tales, we're gonna do a little fairy tale trivia game. There might be some multiple choice, some non-multiple choice, but it's only four questions and a bonus. So do you have your competitive panties on?

[51:32] Jordan Dobson: Oh you know it. You know it. They're on. I can't tell you them, but they are on.

[51:41] Jordan Dobson: I'm down the clown. Come on.

[51:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. I love it. That is so good. You want to take the first one, Samia?

[51:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, I'll take the first one. Okay. Number one. In the story of Snow White and the seven dwarfs. How did the evil witch poison Snow White?

[51:58] Jordan Dobson: Boom. An apple. A poison apple.

[52:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Correct. Cool. I'm feeling confident with this one. And Snow White goes into a deep sleep after eating the apple. I just want to let everyone know I'm allergic to apples, so don't don't try to give me any. I'm basically snow white.

[52:19] Jordan Dobson: You're a princess too.

[52:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you. Alright. Question two. The character of Maleficent appears in which fairy tale.

[52:28] Jordan Dobson: Ah, sleeping beauty.

[52:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh. Two for two.

[52:32] Jordan Dobson: Two for two.

[52:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. I love it. I told you, I like anything mystical and so fairy tales, it's great.

[52:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, next. In the evil fairy who curses sleeping beauty steps sisters does she have?

[52:52] Jordan Dobson: This is multiple choice, but do you want the multiple choice or do you want to just go for it?

[52:57] Jordan Dobson: I feel like it's a trick question because I want to say what we're all thinking. I'm gonna trust that. I'm gonna go for it and say two.

[53:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Correct.

[53:08] Jordan Dobson: Okay, great, great. I was gonna kinda trick me. Okay, great.

[53:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, two that's it. Okay. Um the last one before the bonus. In the story of Jack and a beanstalk, which of these items is not an item Jack stole from the giant. So A, a bag of gold, B, a harp, C, a sword, or D, the goose.

[53:37] Jordan Dobson: Okay, luckily I played Jack in Into the Woods once, and I don't remember anything about a sword, so I'm gonna say he did not steal a sword.

[53:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: Ding ding ding. Jack axe to cut down the beanstalk.

[53:49] Jordan Dobson: Look at you.

[53:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, yes. Four for four. I love that show too. Into the woods, I guess. That's great. Okay, and here's the bonus, which you'll do. Which of these fairy tale characters loses a shoe?

[54:07] Jordan Dobson: I'm gonna try this one.

[54:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: Cinderella or Cinderella.

[54:17] Jordan Dobson: Oh Cinderella and bad Cinderella. Wait, did I give anything away?

[54:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, no, bad Cinderella. There's there's a shoe moment too. So if I wasn't supposed to do that, I gave it away. But yes, Cinderella.

[54:29] Jordan Dobson: I mean, I don't think you gave anything away saying like maybe she loses a shoe. Because it's like unless it's you know, right.

[54:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: There is a shoe in our version.

[54:39] Jordan Dobson: Yeah.

[54:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's a hot shoe. It's really I mean our the costumes, they're great. Oh my god, I can't wait.

[54:50] Jordan Dobson: So yeah. Thank you. Honestly, I listened to the 80s episode, and she got all of her questions. So I was like, I really gotta nail this game, you know.

[55:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: You gotta step it up.

[55:02] Jordan Dobson: So I'm I'm relieved that I got them.

[55:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Her game was kind of hard, I think.

[55:08] Jordan Dobson: That was it was a finished the lyric. Finish the lyric from a like a variety of shows she had been in.

[55:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. And you know what's weird? On my way here this morning, I was like listening to West Side Story and Hades Town and like Neil Diamond, like a beautiful noise. I was like, alright, I I know these lyrics.

[55:23] Jordan Dobson: I'm dead.

[55:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Well, Jordan, thank you, thank you again. Would you let everyone know where they can find you on social media if they're not fans of you yet so they can become a fan of you after listening to this?

[55:40] Jordan Dobson: Oh yeah. I am only on Instagram, and uh you can find me at Jordan Dobson underscore. Yeah, and that's me. I'm just on there. I don't do Twitter, Twitter kind of square kinda scares me. So um it's a common theme.

[55:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[55:59] Jordan Dobson: So I'm gonna do it really is. And then Facebook is like uh oh yeah. Yeah, no, I'm I'm like Facebook is just like my family. Like I just go on like to tell my aunt, like, oh, I'm in the show now. Yeah, great. And she tells her friends. Um, Instagram. Yeah, if you want to sell something.

[56:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: So some prayers.

[56:24] Jordan Dobson: Selling an air conditioner in February. Someone will buy it.

[56:29] Samantha Tuozzolo: So if you guys are tuning in because you're a Jordan fan, as you should be, and you don't follow us yet. Follow us on Instagram and scary Twitter at Survival Jobs Pod. On Facebook at Survival Jobs a Podcast. Shoot us an email at survivaljobspod at gmail.com. Follow my boy Jason at Jason A. Coombs. Wait, I'm trying to point to you, but I'm having trouble. It's always backwards. And that just took me way longer than it should have. Follow my boy Jason at Jason A. Coombs. And you can follow me at Sammy Sutz.

[57:06] Jordan Dobson: Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. This was such a beautiful episode. We can't wait to see you shine and kill it in this show. Congratulations. Tell intern Andy we said hey, and also tell the lady we love her.

[57:19] Jordan Dobson: Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. I will. Definitely will. Thank you so much for having me. I had a blast.

[57:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh good. So did we. Seriously. The best Valentine's Day morning.

[57:30] Jordan Dobson: Best Valentine's Day morning.

[57:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. Happy Valentine's Day.

[57:36] Jordan Dobson: Thank you.