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[0:00] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, Survivors. Hello, Broadway Podcast Network. Hello, Broadway World. I'm Jason A. Coombs. This is my beautiful, amazing, talented quadruple threat of a co-host, Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo. We are here. We're back for the first time all month in the studio. Samantha Dawn, how are you today?

[0:18] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Hi, Jason, I'm good. Thank you for asking. I'm excited. This is, like you said, this is our first episode where we're in our usual format since we've teamed up with Broadway Podcast Network. And now we're with Broadway World and Broadway Podcast Network. And I'm just so excited and grateful. And hopefully, you know, our show is reaching more people. But, you know, Jay, let's shout out like what we've been doing with our carpet with our roundtable. So that's been exciting to have different kinds of episodes coming out. What's been your favorite so far? What's been your favorite part of our switching it up and doing like a little bit of a different kind of episode?

[1:05] Jason A. Coombs: No, I mean, everything has just been so different. So I'm enjoying it all. I'm enjoying the experience of just what we kind of were hoping to get to do. Like we kind of manifested this over the past year. So getting to do a roundtable and then getting to be on the carpet, you've been on there twice. I've been on there. My first one was our Theatre World Awards, which was so fun and exciting and such an honor to be part of this community. And shout out to Broadway World and to Broadway Podcast Network for having us and letting us expand into multiple ways.

[1:39] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. What's your temperature check? How have you been feeling?

[1:45] Jason A. Coombs: I am feeling good. It's a good month. We've been doing so much. It's Pride Month. There was Juneteenth this week. Everything's just been really positive. We're working hard. We're hustling as usual. And yeah, I mean, life's too short to not try to enjoy it the best you can. So there's always going to be those tough moments. But when you wake up and it's a good day, I acknowledge that it's a good day.

[2:10] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. We're just enjoying the ride. And that is directly quoted from Tony Award winning best musical, Kimberly Akimbo. Shout out to Kimberly Akimbo. Jason, what do you think of the Tonys this year?

[2:30] Jason A. Coombs: You know, in the new format, in the new space? I enjoyed it. I mean, we love award shows, right? We're suckers for that. And I was trying to do the live tweeting on our behalf because I know you were at a party for Kimberly Akimbo. But I was home and I was trying to do the live tweeting, try to get our Twitter followers up. But it was hard. You know, I don't even think I have the Twitter app on my phone anymore, just to be honest with you. So I cannot help with the Twitter aspect of our partnership. If I tweeted something crazy, it was me. It wasn't Samantha. It was definitely me.

[2:59] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. And not me. I want to say that I really enjoyed this show in a lot of ways. I thought the performances were great. I thought the flow was great. I thought Ariana did an amazing job. And I also think the opening was so beautiful. And dance is such a vital part of the Broadway community. And I do feel like it's not overlooked, but kind of overlooked sometimes. So, you know, having the show open with a dance focused opening was so beautiful to see.

[3:39] Jason A. Coombs: So great. Which leads us, you know, and we'll chat more, but our guest today, Lisa Finegold, is an amazing dancer as well. So we're just breathing in all of the dance, you guys.

[3:52] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yes. And Alex Newell. Remember, we saw Shucked and after that number, we were like, yep, win that Tony. We were like, just give the Tony to Alex now.

[4:07] Jason A. Coombs: That's so crazy. We were just like, I think everyone's jaw was on the ground, like in that theater. I feel like that was going to be a standing ovation, but I think everyone was nervous because it was like in the middle, like a little in the middle, like the first act. I think people wanted to stand up, but like, it was just like this weird energy. Like everyone was just floored by that. So, yeah.

[4:30] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. Alex isn't real. You know, a lot of great winners. It was such a great season. There were so many, like I really went into this show saying like, I have no idea what's going to happen. It could go so many different ways. What'd you say? Besides Alex.

[4:48] Jason A. Coombs: Well, yeah. Well, even Alex, because Justin Cooley and Kimberly Akimbo and there were so many other great contenders, nominees. It was just like tough. You know, you never knew what, you never know what's going to happen on these nights, but you know, I feel like the love was spread out and Top Dog Underdog won, which was great. We just interviewed Yaya on the carpet for the Theater World Awards. So we were rooting for our people and Parade won. Shout out because, you know, we had Mikaela on the show. We had Alex who plays Jim Connelly. So, you know.

[5:33] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. Survival Jobs was represented, kind of.

[5:40] Jason A. Coombs: Kind of, yeah. Cool. So we jump into our girl, Lisa Finegold.

[5:45] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah. So Lisa is amazing. I've known Lisa through friends for years and years and years. I think I first met her on the Wicked tour in 2016 when Robin DeJesus, one of my BFFs, was also one of my BFFs. Like, anyway, Robin was on the tour and I had gone out to Boston to see him and I met Lisa. I remember, I really remember seeing her being like, wow, that girl is amazing. And then I've run into her a bunch through the years and every time I see her, I'm like, you have to come on the show. And she finally did. So we had a really, really great, great time talking to her.

[6:15] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: For sure. For sure. And I got to meet her for the first time and she's so lovely, so personable and has such great hair.

[6:20] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Such great hair. Cool. Should we say her bio?

[6:30] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, sure. You want to take it or you want me to take it?

[6:33] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I can take it.

[6:41] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yeah, take it. No, you're good. You're excited. It's a great episode.

[6:45] Jason A. Coombs: Is our dance, not our dance captain. What am I saying? Am I in Wicked? What am I? Who am I? You are the Wicked Playbill. You basically are just the Wicked Playbill.

[6:50] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Oh yeah, right. No, but Lisa Finegold is a dance captain, swing, and the witch's mother slash midwife understudy. Her Broadway credits include Head Over Heels, Rock of Ages, national tour credits include Hamilton, Wicked and More, and Off-Broadway Trip of Love. She's a graduate of Boston Conservatory and she always wants to thank her supportive family and her wonderful friends and all that jazz. Should we bring her in?

[7:21] Jason A. Coombs: Let's bring it in. Can I say something really quickly before we go in? In when I went to West Con where we met, I auditioned to go to Boston Conservatory and I did not get in because I cannot sing. Used to think I could sing. I can sing, but I can't sing like that. You know what I mean? And in the first couple of months at Western Connecticut State University, I was at a party, underage drinking, and I told everybody that I got on the wait list at BoCo, which is not true. And so I just think that's a funny story and a lesson to us all. We don't need to lie about where we get into, but I just thought it was funny.

[8:03] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Okay. That's what's on Alisa's episode.

[8:06] Jason A. Coombs: Enjoy.

[8:09] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Enjoy.

[8:14] Lisa Finegold: All right, Alisa, welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast. We're so happy to finally have you on. Thanks for being here.

[8:16] Lisa Finegold: Thank you. Thank you for having me.

[8:18] Samantha Dawn Tuozzolo: Yay. This is so exciting. I feel like I've seen you around the city so many times and been like, Lisa, you have to come on the show. So like Jason said, we're so happy to have you. We have a lot to talk about, a lot of Wicked to talk about, a lot of Hamilton to talk about, a lot of fun to talk about. This is fun as well. Everything we talk about is fun, but this is called Survival Jobs. So we've got to kick it off talking about Survival Jobs. So do you have a favorite survival job that you can share with us?

[8:48] Lisa Finegold: You know, I think my weirdest and probably favorite survival job happened before I even moved to the city. It was when I was back in Florida right before I started college and I was actually a pedicab driver on the beach and it was really fun because I didn't have a manager with me. It was just like me and the bike on the beach. So I got to see a lot of beautiful sunsets and then I kind of like, I made a good amount of money because I kind of used my stature as an advantage. Like I'm a petite woman. So I'd get like three full-sized adults in the back of my pedicab and they would always be like really impressed that I could cart them around. So it was fun. I enjoyed it. And then, but I think there was something sketchy.

Totally. But I think there was something sketchy going on because one day I showed up for work and like the pedicabs were gone and it was like, Oh, I guess we're just, we're just not doing this anymore. It was very strange. No notice. I showed up like ready to get on the bike and they just weren't there. And then I got an email later that night like, Oh yeah, we had to like move to Miami. I was like, okay, something strange is happening. Something weird is going on. Underground drug deal session.

[10:15] Lisa Finegold: Maybe, maybe. Yeah. But it was fun. Another weird survival job that I had. This was also before I went to college. I was Elmo at Busch Gardens in Tampa, Florida. It was supposed to be a two week gig. I did it for three days and I quit. It was the most horrific experience of my life. Yeah. It was like, I had auditioned to be a dancer for them because they had this like summer nights at Busch Gardens and they would hire more dancers for the summer season. And I came and auditioned, but I think they already had all their spots filled and they were like, but you know, you're the perfect height for Elmo. So if you want to do that for two weeks, they're like, you'll do that for two weeks and surely someone will get injured.

One of our dancers will be out and then we'll find you a position. And I was like, I was like, all right, well I'll try anything once. So I did. And it was, it was awful. It was really bad. Really, really bad. But you know what? Those experiences, they really make you stronger. They develop that like character. So I don't regret it, but.

[14:50] Lisa Finegold: I grew up with that movie too. I feel really fortunate my parents introduced me to musical theater at a very young age. Not that they thought I was going to go into it, but I think they just thought, this is really nice to show a child, the classic movie musicals. It really made an impression on me. I think I knew that's what I wanted to do, because it just seemed so fun and so magical. It sure is fun and magical. You fell in love with theater and Fiddler on the Roof and you've since now had such success. You have this great career. You've toured a ton. I want to talk about touring life for a minute. You toured with Wicked. Did I just make that up? No, Wicked and Hamilton and others. I imagine touring life is tough. If you could tell us what you miss the most, what was magical about touring life and what's something that you're so blessed to never have to deal with again?

[15:55] Lisa Finegold: Sure. I miss the community of touring. It's sort of that family out of necessity bond that you make with your cast because you are living together, working together, traveling together, playing together. It is just nonstop. You just form the strongest bond. I do miss that. I've made lifelong friends that I cherish from I think every single tour I've done. I've always come out of it with a beautiful friendship that I still keep and cultivate and love. I miss that. I miss the community. I miss that. That bond is different from any other bond that I've ever experienced, I'll say. Even different from childhood friends, college friends. There's something so strong about a group that tours together.

For better or for worse, you go through things. It's like a family. Then I would say the thing that I'm so grateful is that I get to be home in New York City with my wonderful boyfriend and all my things. I get to see my friends and just live a real life. That is so fulfilling to me to be able to say, because we work hard. I work hard. It's nice to be able to get away at the same time. That's the thing about touring is you really can't escape. It is like the show is your world. I think part of the gift of being able to live and work in New York City is being able to compartmentalize just a little bit to try and leave the work at work. When you come home, you can just be a normal person. It's actually something I'm learning to navigate and that I want to get better at. It's something I'm craving is that work-life balance, but I think it's much more achievable when you're working on Broadway or in any city that you live in.

[18:05] Lisa Finegold: Right. I can imagine, too, you are such dance-focused in all of these performances. On top of the crazy dancing you do in these shows, then to pack your bag and get on a plane and then roll the suitcase. That must be so exhausting.

[18:18] Lisa Finegold: Absolutely. The craziest experience I had on tour, I did the non-union tour of Rock of Ages literally right after I had graduated college. It was an amazing experience. I learned so much. I got so close with that company. I'll never forget the absurdity of sleeping on the floor of a bus for seven hours and then getting off the bus and going straight into a soundcheck for a show that I was doing this for two and a half hours. The absurdity of that and the physical toll that that takes on your body and your mental health as well. But it was an experience. Again, I don't regret that experience. I think it made me who I am. It taught me a lot about who I am as a performer and as a company member, but I don't need to do that again. I'm glad I did it.

[19:27] Jason A. Coombs: For those who were just listening, Lisa was doing some really great hierography as an example. You missed it. You got to watch the video.

[19:32] Jason A. Coombs: You said that you have a boyfriend that's also a working actor that you get to be with in the city. That's definitely a positive that you're in the city with your partner who's also doing this thing that you do.

[19:44] Lisa Finegold: Absolutely. It's so amazing to be able to support each other in a more tangible way because we've been together for quite a bit. We've done a lot of long distance through the years with me being out on tour and doing an out-of-town tryout somewhere or reading. Being able to actually be there for each other has been really amazing and so helpful. Yeah, it's just people need other people. We need people and really happy that we're having this moment together now. It's really amazing. People who need people. You know what I mean?

[20:15] Jason A. Coombs: In Wicked, you wear many hats. You're the dance captain, if I'm not mistaken. You swing and understudy two roles. What's the most challenging part of that? I can't wrap my head around that. I would never be able to do that. I know myself. I give you lots of credit.

[20:35] Lisa Finegold: Thank you. Literally. Literally. Most challenging part of that. Is there a favorite part of doing it? Give a favorite track or favorite part of that whole experience.

[20:47] Lisa Finegold: Yeah, I will say it was really helpful to have already known the show before I came into the Broadway company. I was on the tour in 2016 in the same role. In 2016, I was the dance captain and crossover swing, which in the world of Wicked means I cover all of the women in the ensemble, which is 10 tracks. 10 tracks in the Broadway company, 9 tracks on tour. That's crazy.

[21:15] Lisa Finegold: Yeah, it's wild. 10 different dance tracks, 10 different spaces to stand. Sorry, Tim. I just got shocked.

[21:20] Lisa Finegold: Yeah. What I love about it is that the ensemble of Wicked is very diverse in skill set. It's 10 tracks, but you've got four of those. Four of those 10 tracks are like hardcore dancer tracks. Then the other four, yes. Then the other four are like singer, mostly singer, a little bit of moving. Then there's one track that's like an older character actor. Then the 10th track is an onstage swing. She has an abbreviated track and she's there at a moment's notice to switch into any other track were something to happen mid-show because she's already in a mic, she's already in her wig prep, that sort of scenario. I cover all 10 of those, which is fun because it means that I always get to do something different, which I really enjoy. I also think there's a lot of sustainability in that for someone who, I'm not going to say an older dancer, but a mid-range aged dancer to not have to do it eight times a week on a rake, I think is really helpful for keeping myself injured.

[24:11] Lisa Finegold: When I first joined the Wicked Tour, it was my very first time being a dance captain, and I thought they were crazy. I was like, there's nobody else who knows this show who can do this role. Are you sure? Like, you really want to hire a brand new person to take care of your show? But they did, and at first, it was very, very challenging for me to get over that sort of imposter syndrome moment of being like, they didn't choose the right person. I don't know what they saw in me to do this. This feels crazy. But you know, eventually, I got over that. But I remember my very, it was my, my debut was my very first time doing the show and my dear friend, we were, you know, in places on stage and she could see how nervous I was, how anxious I was.

I was like, you know, going through the whole show in my head, like in like, you know, five minutes. And she grabbed my hand, she turned to me and she said, Listen, no matter what you do tonight, no matter how hard you mess up, I promise you, there was no way that you can destroy Wicked. There's absolutely no possible way that your performance alone can destroy Wicked tonight. So she was like, so just just do it for you. They're not gonna know. No one's gonna know. And honestly that advice has really stayed with me through all of the shows I've done. It's like, you know, we can be so, so hard on ourselves because we want to we want to give the audience the best possible experience. But it's important to remember that we're just a very, very small part of a huge experience.

And you know, as long as you fake it till you make it the audience will never know that you, you know, you started on the wrong foot, or you actually, you actually went in front of that person instead of behind them. You know, that stuff is right. In the grand scheme of things. So, yeah.

[25:57] Jason A. Coombs: And also like how iconic it is that you get to do what literally millions of people want to do. You know, like you're living the dream.

[26:05] Lisa Finegold: Yeah, I'm very, I'm very grateful for that. And it's very, it's very obvious when you do shows like Wicked or Hamilton, just how much people love and respect these pieces of theater. And you can see it's the kids really, really get me when you see those kids in the audience and their faces are just lit up or you hear their laughter or like, one of my actually one of my favorite parts of being an offstage company member is that I can watch the show from front of house sometimes. So, you know, just to like sit in the audience and kind of be with them to hear to hear children respond to Wicked or Hamilton has been so magical just to remember. And to, you know, be put in that place of like, oh, yeah, this is so amazing for people.

Every time they see it, you know, that is someone's first experience in the theater. Maybe it's their last experience in the theater. Maybe it's the experience that made them say, whoa, like, I want to do that. I see myself on that stage. So being reminded of that from time to time, I think is really important. And I never, I never want to take that for granted, because I think it's very easy to when you're in the thick of things.

[27:25] Lisa Finegold: I just want to jump off of what you said of like, Wicked being this huge show and Hamilton and all these people's reactions. So these are like two of the biggest shows in Broadway history for popularity and, you know, word of mouth and the buzz. Have you felt an extra sense of responsibility or pressure performing in these two shows like that that advice you shared from your friend of like, you're not gonna destroy Wicked, right? Do you do you feel that that's helped? And when you first started, like Hamilton, even were you like, Oh, my God, like, what's gonna happen?

[28:05] Lisa Finegold: Yes. Popular shows, I really wanted to sneak popular in there just to like, make a little Wicked.

[28:13] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[28:16] Lisa Finegold: You nailed it. Thank you so much. Yeah, like, I don't know if that was a question. But yeah, absolutely. I feel a great deal of responsibility. Because these shows are so iconic. And also because, you know, I'm not an original company member of either either of these shows, you know, I came in as a replacement. So to live up to the standard that past dance captains and past swings have set, I think is very important. And I've been lucky enough to be put into both of those shows by really, by people who are so excellent at their jobs, like really high level, dance captains and to be able to learn from them and to sort of take their advice and really sort of soak in everything that they told me, I think has been very important for, you know, my journey as a dance captain is being able to learn from the people who came before me, because, you know, everyone has their own way of doing things, obviously, like no one's system is going to be the same.

But I thrive off of, you know, stealing the things that work, and trying to improve on the things that don't, I think that's such an important aspect of theater is honoring, honoring the things that work, and, you know, trying to make better the things that you see, could be improved. So, you know, really learning from my community, and the people who have done this for so many years, I think is vital, I wouldn't have survived otherwise. And also, you know, I always have a co dance captain, and I find it so important to trust and support and also be supported by those people. I've been really lucky to work with really incredible, incredible people who, you know, it's, it's, it can be tough. But I think if you lead with love, and you lead with respect, you get that back.

And that makes this job easier, better, more rewarding, more full of love. Yeah, yeah. So I really I love to take from the people around me, you know, in an honoring way, not in a not in a stealing way.

[30:40] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I love that. I feel like that's so important in theater and in the arts, especially because it can get nasty, people can get nasty, you know, and, and cutthroat. And that's not what it's about. It's about we're all here because we love it. So let's lead with the love.

[30:55] Lisa Finegold: Absolutely. And I think everyone, a lot of that a lot of that comes from individual insecurity. You know, the I think sometimes like the the the cutthroat nature or the competitive nature of the business can come from people feeling insecure and like they want to prove themselves. So I just feel like if you're if you are making sure people feel seen, a lot of that kind of fades away, you know, when you respect people, they respect you back. So I think it's, it's a loop, you know. So I like to just do what I can to promote an atmosphere that is positive, because I've said this before, this job is way too hard to do if you don't love it, and you're not having a good time. So for me, that's, that's, that can be the most important thing, because no one's forcing no one's forcing us to be Broadway actors, believe it or not.

Like, we choose this. So I think, you know, we should choose to make it the best possible environment we can for ourselves and for the community. Because in the end, that only benefits the show, right? That only makes it better for the audience and for the industry as a whole, I think.

[32:07] Jason A. Coombs: Preach. Awesome. Well, I was gonna ask you for advice, but that's such great advice already.

[32:14] Lisa Finegold: Thank you.

[32:15] Jason A. Coombs: No, I'm so moved by that. So thank you for sharing. And I apologize if anyone can hear that lawnmower in the background. Someone's mowing their lawn right now, of course. So I apologize.

[32:24] Lisa Finegold: Zero lawnmowers.

[32:25] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, good. Good. Okay. But I want to know, Alisa, is there anything feeding your soul artistically right now? Like another show that maybe you snuck away to see? Or a movie, TV show, a book, a podcast?

[32:40] Lisa Finegold: Yeah. Well, I'm really inspired by this, this new Broadway season. So I think there's so much great stuff out there so much that I would like to see that I haven't been able to see yet. Even just like their performances on the Tony Awards. I was like, wow, I have to see that show. That is so cool. I love, I mean, I'm biased, obviously, but I think Shucked is so amazing. And it's so different right now from other shows. I mean, it's probably the furthest away from the kind of show that I'm doing, which is like, you know, spectacle and enormous. And this in Shucked is more just kind of like pared down, like musical comedy at sort of its simplest, but also kind of most clever and exciting. And I just think it's a really fun experience in the theater.

And I think doing comedy like that is so challenging, and they make it look so effortless. So I am in absolute awe, absolute awe of that. Like, you know, I can sell, I can sell choreography, but selling a joke that is, I think that's a whole different, that's a whole different skill set. You know, I think is really, really amazing. I'm really excited to see some of the new shows that really feature dance that are coming up.

[35:01] Lisa Finegold: I think it's amazing. I think the innovation and the creativity that goes into what they do is just so special. And I'm so glad that drag has a platform to be seen by the mainstream. I think that's so important for education and for people to know that it is art and it is important and it is so necessary for people to be able to have a creative outlet. So I'm always a fan of drag, drag race, drag in general, the art form itself is very inspiring. Especially with what's going on in our country with like all these ridiculous bans and quotes, you know, like it's so...

[35:43] Jason A. Coombs: Absolutely. Absolutely. It's terrifying to think that, you know, a certain sect of people could destroy a whole art form. That is terrifying. And you know, the crossover because theater is drag. So much of theater is drag. So to think that it's possible that, you know, I think of touring companies to think that it's possible that shows could be going to certain places where a ban is in effect that says what you're doing is dangerous and what you're doing is, you know, whatever they think it is. I think that is just awful and terrifying. And art is so important in society. You don't have to be an artist to benefit from seeing art. I mean, I think everyone is an artist in some way, but you know, the effect that it has on a community I think is so important. So to think that that could be taken away from specific communities, probably the communities that need it most is really tragic, really devastating. So yeah, vote.

[36:49] Lisa Finegold: Yeah.

[36:50] Jason A. Coombs: Exactly. Vote. I do want to jump in and say, going back to Here Lies Love, you said you're so excited to see like the dance folk, the choreography. I saw the invited dress. The choreography in Here Lies Love is so amazing. It's so wonderful, this production and the way they've done it. So I did just want to give that a huge shout out and everyone needs to get a ticket and go see it. It's so different than anything I've ever seen on Broadway.

[37:21] Lisa Finegold: That's so exciting. That's so cool. Anytime there's something that it's like, you know, something that we haven't seen, I think it's just amazing. But that's the hard part about being on a show schedule, you know, seeing the other shows can be difficult. But I think this summer I'm going to get the opportunity to do that. So I'm excited.

[37:42] Jason A. Coombs: Well, have a blast.

[37:44] Lisa Finegold: Thank you.

[37:45] Jason A. Coombs: Happy Pride Month.

[37:48] Lisa Finegold: Happy Pride Month. Where did you pull that out? I love that little flag.

[37:56] Jason A. Coombs: At the ready.

[38:00] Lisa Finegold: This has been so much fun. I don't think we've told you, but we always love to end the show with a quick little game, some trivia, some funness, whatever it may be. But before we do that, let's bring it back to survival jobs. This is a question that really kicked off our show, you know, almost over two years ago, and I love to put it back in the show once in a while. So Lisa, if you had to return to your least favorite survival job, which I'm imagining is Elmo, for seven years, you have to be Elmo in Florida for seven years, but you can, once that beat of seven years is done, that Elmo track is done, you can come out of that and have your dream artistic life, whatever that may be. No questions asked for the rest of your life. You'll never not have that artistic stability. Would you go back to that job?

[39:59] Lisa Finegold: Seven years.

[40:00] Jason A. Coombs: It used to be 10. I knocked it down to seven.

[40:04] Lisa Finegold: You continued it three days last time.

[40:07] Jason A. Coombs: Also, from three days to seven years is a lot.

[40:12] Lisa Finegold: It's a lot. You know what? I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say I wouldn't do it just because I believe in myself enough to know that I'm gonna make it happen without the contract of seven years as Elmo. Seven years as Elmo.

[40:22] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I think you got it. Jay, you wanna kick it off?

[40:24] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, so the first one is, laughing at my sister as she's dazzling the room.

[40:29] Lisa Finegold: Hamilton or Wicked. Hamilton.

[40:31] Jason A. Coombs: Nice. Well, thank you again. This has been so much fun. You've shared so much great advice and so many great words, so I know that Jason and I appreciate that, and I know our listeners will as well. So since you've been, we've talked a lot about you being in Hamilton and Wicked, two of these major iconic shows, we thought it'd be fun to play a game called Hamilton or Wicked, where we're gonna give you a line from one of the shows, and you're gonna tell us if it's Hamilton or Wicked. Now, I think this is pretty obvious, but we'll see. But if you get something wrong, then that comment's gonna be so shady. I'm like, this game is obvious and easy, and you're stumped. Sorry, it's been a while, but no, I believe in myself. I got this. I got this.

[40:36] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. I was trying not to sing it. I was like, wait, how do I not sing this?

[40:40] Lisa Finegold: Right, it's tough, right?

[40:44] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, number two, I couldn't undo it even if I tried. That's not the line. The line is, the line is, I couldn't undo if I tried.

[41:00] Lisa Finegold: Wow, I'm stumped. I couldn't undo it if I tried. Sorry, I can't read today, I guess.

[41:11] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, wow, I'm stumped. See, my comment was shady now. I'm so sorry.

[41:15] Lisa Finegold: No, this is good. This is good. I totally underestimated this.

[41:22] Jason A. Coombs: Hamilton? Yes.

[41:24] Lisa Finegold: Ding, ding, ding.

[41:26] Jason A. Coombs: Wait, when is that? This is Jefferson in the finale when he's singing.

[41:30] Lisa Finegold: Yes, yes, it's yes. Yes, he says, yeah, I used to be, I used to know the entire show, word for word for it. I can't say that's true of Hamilton anymore because there's so many words, but the time I was working on it, I think I could have said almost everything.

[41:44] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, his whatever is a work of genius. I couldn't undo it if I tried.

[41:50] Lisa Finegold: And I tried. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Oh, these are good. Wow, I'm shocked.

[41:57] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, congratulations, though. You got it correct. Thank you. Two for two.

[42:04] Jason A. Coombs: Let his blood leave no stain.

[42:08] Lisa Finegold: Wicked, baby.

[42:09] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[42:11] Jason A. Coombs: Boom. Okay, next. From your sister is always by your side.

[42:20] Lisa Finegold: Hamilton.

[42:22] Jason A. Coombs: Correct. Correct. Ding, ding, ding.

[42:27] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, this is the last one before the big bonus, but it looks like you don't need it. My sister and I were talking about you.

[42:34] Lisa Finegold: Wicked.

[42:37] Jason A. Coombs: This is good because there's sisters in both shows. Yeah, tricky, right? The first version of this game was only going to be lines about sisters from the shows, but then it just really wasn't working out. So we had to get creative. Okay, and this is the bonus. This is like one of my favorite lines in the history of Broadway.

[43:01] Jason A. Coombs: There are no more stairs. This must be the attic.

[43:06] Lisa Finegold: Wicked. I think I've talked about this line on the show before because it makes you laugh. Like, I don't, am I like, just the only one who thinks it's so funny? There are no more stairs. This must be the attic. Yeah, no shit. No more stairs.

[43:23] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Or like, yeah, whatever. Anyway, you got 110%. Congratulations.

[43:30] Lisa Finegold: Thank you. Thank you so much. That was so fun.

[43:34] Jason A. Coombs: Your prize is you have a VIP invite to the season three premiere party of Survival Jobs, a podcast. We have no idea when it's going to be.

[43:42] Lisa Finegold: I love it. Thank you.

[43:43] Jason A. Coombs: We're just like in a never ending season two, which is awesome.

[43:47] Lisa Finegold: That's amazing. That's so great. There's so many people to talk to, which is like, that's amazing. We love that.

[43:52] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, we're very lucky. We're like, just so happy. We're getting to chat with so many different artists and actors and from different shows and different strengths. Yeah, it's amazing.

[44:03] Lisa Finegold: This was amazing. Thank you so much for joining us.

[44:06] Lisa Finegold: Thank you. I had so much fun.

[44:08] Jason A. Coombs: Before you go, would you mind just sharing your social media where people can find you and support you if they're new fans?

[44:14] Lisa Finegold: Sure. My handle is goldenfin on Instagram. I'm going to be honest. I don't do a lot on it, but you can follow me if you want. I post a picture in the Wicked costume every now and then.

[44:32] Jason A. Coombs: Love that.

[44:33] Lisa Finegold: Yeah. And if you are new to Survival Jobs and you're tuning in because you are a Lisa fan, as you should be, follow us at SurvivalJobsPod on Instagram and Twitter, on Facebook at SurvivalJobsAPodcast. Shoot us an email. Let us know what you think at SurvivalJobsPod at gmail.com. Follow my boy, Jason, at Jason A. Coombs. And I am Sammy Toots. Lisa, thank you so much. Everyone go see Lisa in Wicked. Hopefully she'll be on the day you're there. Congratulations.

[45:09] Lisa Finegold: Thank you. Bye. Thank you so much.