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Episode 75 | Dana Steingold: "Meet Me at The Cottage"

Your favorite podcast hosts Jason A. Coombs and Samantha Tuozzolo are back with the wonderfully talented and genuine Dana Steingold who is starring as ‘Diedre‘ in the hit Broadway play, “The Cottage” directed by the legendary Jason Alexander... Read More

From the show: Survival Jobs: A Podcast

52 mins
9/15/23

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Your favorite podcast hosts Jason A. Coombs and Samantha Tuozzolo are back with the wonderfully talented and genuine Dana Steingold who is starring as ‘Diedre‘ in the hit Broadway play, “The Cottage” directed by the legendary Jason Alexander. Steingold shares her experience working alongside so many television and theatre veterans in the cast and crew including Eric McCormack, Laura Bell Bundy and Lilli Cooper among others. She also dives into why audiences need to pay a visit to show sooner rather than later!

Before closing out the episode with a fun game of “Beetlejuice Movie Trivia”, Steingold shares her love and gratitude for the Beetlejuice fan community and reminisces about what made that production so special for her. Tickets for “The Cottage” are on sale!

Episode 75 opens with Jason sharing a mic check discussing the 2023 Bridgeport Film Fest which is streaming virtually until Monday, September 18! Lastly, the exclusive video can be found here on Broadway World and an audio only version is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Audible or any of your other favorite podcast apps.

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[0:06] Jason A. Coombs: Hello everyone and welcome to Survival Jobs: The Podcast in collaboration with Broadway World and Broadway Podcast Network.

[0:14] Jason A. Coombs: I am your host, Jason A. Coombs, along with my co-host, the wonderful, beautiful, talented, mega inspirational. I could give her all the flowers, Samantha Tuozzolo, who you can't see if you're watching the video. Samantha actually is not here for the mic check today. She was having some serious, serious computer problems. Her MacBook crashed, so you're stuck with me today during her intro. She will be here for the interview with Dana, our lovely guest, but she's not here in the intro, and I'm all by myself, and I'm feeling a little scared and anxious and nervous. No, I'm just I'm I miss you, Samantha, because I'm sure you'll be listening to this and you're gonna wonder how it went. So it's weird, but we're here.

[1:45] Jason A. Coombs: Filmmakers across the United States and from 13 other countries, y'all. They're incredible. Check it out. Support the Bridgeport Film Fest. We need your support. We need your love. And these filmmakers need it as well. So definitely want to shout that out. And then I'm just gonna jump right into it because I don't want to take up too much time. This interview is so freaking good. Um with Dana Steingold. So I'm gonna tell you a little bit about her. Uh, but first, the interview was just so great. We talked about Beetlejuice, we talked about survival jobs, we talked about just working in this industry, and then The Cottage, which is the hit Broadway show right now, and that we got to dive into and talk about why audiences are so excited for it. So it was a really great interview. I'm super excited to share with you all. That's why I'm jumping straight into it. And let's go into Dana's bio.

[2:36] Jason A. Coombs: All right. So Dana Steingold is currently starring in Broadway's The Cottage as the hysterical showstopper Deedra. She originated the role of Girl Scout in Beetlejuice on Broadway, where she also covered the role of Lady Adits. Broadway national tour credits include the 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. Off-Broadway/New York credits include Avenue Q, The Visit, Saturday Night, Anyone Can Whistle. Regional credits include Paper Mill Playhouse, North Shore Music Theater, George Street, Westport Country Playhouse, Barrington Stage, Baltimore Center Stage, KC Rep, North Carolina Theater, Two River, West End Playhouse, and then finally, TV credits include Inventing Anna on Netflix, Sarah Timbers on Nickelodeon, Welcome to the Wayne.

This woman has been working, y'all, and she is a joy to chat with. You're gonna get so many nuggets of information today. So get your paper and pens out. Let's take some notes while you're listening to this. For those of you who are aspiring performers because Dana's dropping some good ass info. All right. So enjoy the interview. Thank you for tuning in. Samantha, we miss you. Big kisses. And yeah, here's Dana's interview. Enjoy.

[4:02] Jason A. Coombs: Hi, Dana. Welcome to Survival Jobs Podcast.

[4:07] Dana Steingold: Hi. Thanks for having me.

[4:12] Jason A. Coombs: We've kind of been on like a little hiatus, not really. We haven't really done an interview in this setting in a few weeks. So I'm pumped and so excited. And I can't wait to talk about all the things, including The Cottage. How fun.

[4:25] Dana Steingold: Yay.

[4:26] Jason A. Coombs: It's your day off, yeah.

[4:28] Dana Steingold: It is my day off. I'm very excited about it.

[4:30] Jason A. Coombs: Happy day off. And also, like, thank you for joining us on your day off. That's iconic.

[4:35] Dana Steingold: Of course. I know you're about I try to be as iconic as possible, you know.

[4:39] Jason A. Coombs: Don't we all? Don't we all?

[4:42] Jason A. Coombs: Well, thank you for working on a little bit on your day off. But yeah, for sure. So the name of our show is Survival Jobs. So let's jump in with that. I was doing a little bit of research and I saw that you went to NYU. You've been living in New York City since then, pretty much, right?

[4:58] Dana Steingold: Yeah, I've been living in New York City since then. I left right after college to go on tour. And then I basically booked the revival of Godspell and moved back to the city, and then that got canceled, and then I had to get a survival job.

[5:13] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my gosh, good. Yeah, but do you have a favorite survival job in New York City that you've had?

[5:19] Dana Steingold: Oh my gosh. I've had a lot of really fun ones, actually. Um, I never worked in the restaurant industry. I'm definitely not cut out for that. It takes a specific kind of person, I think. Um, I tried the cater waiter thing for a second, that was not for me either. I couldn't carry the trays, they were too big. I'm klutzy, they were gonna spill. It was bad. Um, but I always loved working in boutiques because I loved like talking to people, and I was a great salesperson. Um, so my favorite one was actually I worked at a store that is now no longer, but for this amazing woman, Kristen, and it was called Alex and Lorenzo on the Upper East Side, and it was a little like interior design and gift store, and I was obsessed with this shop.

Um, she was so great, she was so flexible. She let me like leave when I had to go to an audition or whatever. I was mostly there alone, which meant I could sit on a stool when nobody else was around and kind of just like learn sides or watch TV on my computer. And um it was really great until the day the store got robbed, and that was a less great day.

[6:21] Jason A. Coombs: No, you were there.

[6:24] Dana Steingold: I was there, yeah. Oh yeah, it happened on like a Saturday morning, and the store was on Lexington in like 77. So you don't really expect it. And it was raining, and normally the doors open. There's a bunch of stores on the same street, and someone came in and they had a hoodie on, and like it just looked like a normal person that was coming in from the rain, and then they asked for all the money in the register, and um we closed about an hour later for the day. But luckily, nothing bad happened. Everyone was safe, took money and went.

[6:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, I am sorry you had to go through that. Did you were you just like here take the money?

[7:02] Dana Steingold: Um, you know, I wish I could say that I was like that. I went into my natural like Dana mode, and I was like, Oh, sir, you don't want to do that. You really don't want to do that. Like, and Kristen, the owner was like, okay, if anyone ever comes in again and asks for the money, just give them the money. Like, you don't try to fight them. I used to manage a restaurant that Jason and I both worked at together, and the owner always said, like, if someone comes in, just give them whatever they want.

[7:29] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[7:30] Dana Steingold: That's why I asked, because it was like, huh, I wonder how that worked. Well, we had never had that discussion, and fortunately, in my, you know, now 20 years or whatever in New York, nothing like that had ever happened to me and has happened since. So I guess that's like my one New York story. But I think it's like a one of yeah, and like weirdly, it aligns with a friend's, like one of my friends who's also in the business, did this like very campy like bachelor bachelorette event where we all went to medieval times later that day. So, like, I got robbed at a store, and then I went to medieval times, so like those two things will forever be tied together.

[8:04] Jason A. Coombs: Are you a writer? Because this sounds like a short film.

[8:06] Dana Steingold: I don't know. Like so I don't want to say funny, I'm sorry what happened to you, but like no, no my gosh, it is funny, it is really funny. Like, there's a photo of me later that day in like a medieval times crown with like a giant oh my god, like that is with a giant and the turkey like they're so big.

[8:25] Jason A. Coombs: I love a medieval times moment.

[8:27] Dana Steingold: Wow, I do too. Yeah, it was my friend Nicola Anzaroni, it was her um right before her wedding. So shout out. I think now I I don't think I'll be able to go to medieval times without thinking about this robbery as well.

[8:39] Jason A. Coombs: So I'm sorry, I wrote it for you.

[8:41] Dana Steingold: Yeah, no, it's like elevated it now.

[8:44] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, okay. So aside from the robbery, you liked that survival job.

[8:49] Dana Steingold: Right. Loved it, loved it. Do you have a survival job that you did that you didn't love? That maybe you have another crazy story to go along with.

[8:59] Dana Steingold: Oh, that I didn't love. You know, I would say I worked in a clothing store for a while that I really liked all the girls there, but the owners were a little bit kooky. And we did have to be on our feet all day, which was also like not ideal. Um so I was very excited when I moved over to Alex and Lorenzo and I got to sit. Um but yeah, I would say also uh the summer between like my junior year of college and my senior year, maybe I stayed in the city to do a couple summer classes so I could graduate a bit early. And um, I think I like was like I should probably make a little bit of extra money. And I passed out flyers for the New York Sports Club that was I lived in Murray Hill at the time. So it was that one that was like on 30 between 32nd and 31st on I don't even know if still there on park.

And it was I mean that was terrible. It was like 95 degrees, and I was like handing out fly. I think you only got paid if I remember correctly, like by how many people signed up based on your flyer passings because they had your name on them. It was terrible.

[10:03] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that was terrible.

[10:04] Dana Steingold: Yeah, I did a job like that too. I did six, not even six, I think four hours, and I'm on my lunch break, I just never went back. I threw the flyers away or make it. I quit.

[10:13] Jason A. Coombs: That's not true.

[10:15] Dana Steingold: I think all the New York Sports Clubs in New York City are gone.

[10:19] Jason A. Coombs: I don't think barely any of them survived the pandemic.

[10:22] Dana Steingold: I mean, that tracks, yeah. I don't, I don't I think so much of the fitness industry, so many things closed in the city, but yeah, that one was not my favorite job I've ever had. And then um Alex and Lorenzo.

[10:35] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, yeah.

[10:36] Dana Steingold: And from there, a customer actually, when the store closed, um, hired me to be her personal assistant, and I've honestly been working with her and for her ever since. So it's been sort of 12, I don't even know how many years at this point, but um, and I'll never give it up because once you have a Broadway show canceled or something like that happens to you, you're like, I better have something in my back pocket that um I can do that's flexible that I kind of enjoy. And um it allows me to pick and choose what I want I want to do and not have to do things I I don't, and I like having that agency. So uh yeah, shout out to Judy, she's the best.

[11:13] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[11:14] Dana Steingold: Yeah. Hope you're listening, Judy.

[11:18] Jason A. Coombs: She probably is, yeah.

[11:22] Jason A. Coombs: Well, let's talk a little bit about Michigan. You grew up in Michigan, right?

[11:25] Dana Steingold: I did, yeah.

[11:27] Jason A. Coombs: Cool. And did you always want to be a performer like when you were a kid, or was there like a catalyst like aha moment that you had growing up that was like, I want to do this or I can do this?

[11:36] Dana Steingold: Yeah, you know, I think I was just really precocious as a kid and I loved performing, and my parents like went to dental school and they knew nothing from this world, and so they sort of did what every other parent does if they have a kid who's kind of maybe interested in the arts and they put me in dance class. And um I my mom said that I just kind of like got upset with all the other people who weren't taking it seriously and didn't know the moves, and I was sort of like the only one who knew the entire dance, and um they were like, all right, well, I guess we'll keep letting her go to dance class. And uh for in my first grade talent show, I sang part of your world from The Little Mermaid, and I wouldn't rehearse it with my mom, so they were very surprised when I got up and I did a complete act uh laying on the floor with like a fin and fully staged my entire number.

Um and they had no idea I could really sing that it was like a real thing. Um so from there I just started doing community theater and I heard people clapping for me and kind of fell in love. And yeah, and the rest, as they say, is history, I guess. But um yeah, so I just kind of started doing community theater around there. At the time, uh a lot of us were sort of in that world. The Keenan Bolders grew up like 30 minutes from me, and we were all doing theater together and Jenny Florkowski and Nathan Keene, a bunch of people who are still like in the business now. Uh, we all grew up doing children's theater together. And uh we all kind of I saw them all go off to college and sort of worshipped them and thought that will be my path as well, and eventually found my way to theater camp.

[13:12] Dana Steingold: And that's kind of where I really knew it was something I wanted to do.

[13:16] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, I love that.

[13:17] Dana Steingold: I'm obsessed that you have the fin.

[13:21] Jason A. Coombs: Where did you find the fin?

[13:22] Dana Steingold: Well, the fin, I didn't like what was in the store. The offerings were not good enough. So my wonderful neighbor Karen was enlisted to make me a handmade fin and she sequined it. It was gorgeous. Um, I think my parents still have it weirdly in the basement somewhere, but with four kids, I think you keep a lot of weird mementos. Like I don't think it had any real meaning to them. It's just somewhere in the basement.

[13:43] Jason A. Coombs: I love that.

[13:44] Dana Steingold: Yeah. It's so good.

[13:46] Jason A. Coombs: Wow. Okay, so then you know you went from the fin and now you have this amazing career. We have a ton of young listeners who maybe are stuck in survival jobs, maybe are in college trying to figure out how to take their next steps. Can you please share a little bit about your journey to get representation and what that looked like for you?

[14:14] Dana Steingold: Yeah. So, you know, I went to NYU. So I do think if you I always say go to college, go to college for anything. I think it is an integral part of becoming a well-rounded human being emotionally and socially. So you don't have to study theater. I have plenty of friends who went to Yale and studied like Lauren Warson's a great example. She studied Spanish literature at Yale and then was on tour with me in spelling. You know, you don't have to necessarily focus on theater, but I just think that part of development is very important. Um so I basically went to NYU and I figured like I have to take the next leap. And if you do a showcase at one of the bigger schools, hopefully you get representation.

Um luckily I did. So right before I graduated, I signed with my first agent. And this is gonna make it because the in-between has not been this simple, but this is going to sound very simple and like a wonderful story, which it is. But I signed with my agent. The first audition they sent me out on was for theater, was the tour of the 25th annual Putnam County spelling bee, and I ended up getting it. So but that being said, and it was like this wonderful blessing, and it was incredible. But then the next thing I went out for, which was Godspell, I got it, and then it all fell apart. So it is this magical thing, but it then took me another whatever it was, 12 years to get back to Broadway, you know, and I had to kind of like do the survival job thing, do the regional theater thing, which is actually an amazing thing.

Everyone should do regional theater. We love regional theaters. Um, you learn so much, you get to do so much amazing work and um support your regional theaters. That's all I'll say. But uh yeah, so we're right now, so yeah, exactly. And you know, that's where you get to kind of hone your craft and you meet so many people before um they kind of become these amazing directors and you know, they're well, they're always amazing, but before they're sort of uh have any notoriety in New York and also a lot of the most creative stuff you'll do is done outside of the city because financially it's viable or used to be viable to do these kind of sort of experimental versions of things um in these amazing creative spaces where the eyes were not on it as much as it is here, and there's not there aren't as many investors and so much money, um sort of riding on these big choices, right?

[16:52] Dana Steingold: So yeah, regional theater is amazing. But um, yeah, so for anyone out there, I would say obviously if you attend one of those, you know, big 10 schools for theater, your showcase will be really well attended. Hopefully, you will have representation. However, I look really young. That was marketable at the time. And I have a ton of friends who I went to school with who people did not know quite what to do with at that moment because they maybe didn't fit the mold of what was like the thing. Um, I was coming off of like spelling view is happening and spring awakening had happened and all these things that were sort of like um youthful, but then there were people like my friend Grace McLean, who I went to college with who was always the most incredible actress and so special, but people didn't really understand what to do with her till she was like 30, you know, and so people peek at different times.

So I always say, like, showcases this weird thing that we all have to do, but don't be don't be deterred if someone doesn't understand what to do with you or doesn't sign you, or you know, it just takes time and uh it's not a linear path for everybody, and you really cannot look sideways because it will frustrate you. You cannot compare your journey to anybody else's.

[18:08] Jason A. Coombs: That's such good advice.

[18:10] Dana Steingold: Yeah. Also, shout out to Grace, she's amazing, amazing.

[18:15] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, truly fantastic.

[18:17] Dana Steingold: Yeah, not real.

[18:19] Jason A. Coombs: No, she's amazing.

[18:20] Dana Steingold: But that's like a great example of someone who is so incredible in college, and it took a while for like the community to catch up with her uniqueness, you know, and understand what she offered. And I that's why I think school is such a weird thing, because the only thing schools, there's no better way, I guess, right? Is they they know how to package you into this thing that they think you'll be most viable as. Uh, and so you come out and people are like, you are a Kristen Chenowitz slash whatever type, right? So you're like, these are the rules you'll go in for. But if you're so unique that nobody understands the box you're in, um, they're like, huh. Okay, so you're gonna be you. We don't know where that fits quite yet, you know.

And so that means taking on a lot of development work, hence the survival jobs, because development is the best thing you'll do and is 90% of the business, actually, but does not pay very well. But it is it pays in your heart, it's the best thing to do. But the connections, right?

[19:26] Dana Steingold: Oh, absolutely. I would say every great job I've had has come from planting the seeds in development with them on either that project or another project. But it's hard. I mean, you 29-hour readings, which is most of the business, are really like 49-hour readings because you spend all the time at home doing the work to make sure that it seems flawless in a room. And then on top of that, you know, you're making uh $200 for these 29 hours, which makes it sort of impossible to work the rest of the week, but nobody can live on $200 for the week. So that's if you're doing four readings a month, that's not a great salary to pay your rent.

[20:07] Jason A. Coombs: So stop.

[20:09] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[20:09] Jason A. Coombs: Especially these days.

[20:11] Dana Steingold: Especially these days.

[20:13] Jason A. Coombs: Um well let's look fast forward just a little bit to Beetlejuice.

[20:22] Dana Steingold: I hear there's like the Beetlejuice fans are wild in the in the in the best way. We saw so many of them at Wake Con when we were there, like all dressed up, doing the cosplay. It's amazing. But for those who don't know, you originated the role of Skye, the Girl Scout.

[20:35] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, think you were saying her name.

[20:38] Dana Steingold: Yeah, yeah. Of course. Um, do you have a favorite memory of that time? You you also did it before the pandemic and after, right? Did I get that correct?

[20:46] Dana Steingold: Yeah, I did both iterations, and that was something too where I started at the 29 hour reading level, and luckily they like took me on the ride. So um, yeah, I mean that show's filled with amazing memories. I always say that, like not that you know, Godspell falling apart was a great thing, it certainly wasn't, but I honestly wouldn't have made my debut any other way with another group of people, it was so spectacular. It was like originating a role, doing a cast recording, doing the Tony Awards, doing the Thanksgiving Day Parade. And it was a show that people I mean, I feel like a broken record because I feel like I say this on every podcast and every whatever, but like I think you're very lucky if one Beetlejuice comes into your life ever in your whole career. So I'm not sure that that will ever happen again, but the way that people connect with it is so incredible.

[21:41] Dana Steingold: And the fan base is so wild. Like I've never experienced anything like that. It and in the best way, like it's very overwhelming. Um but in a in a really I really mean that in a in a great way, but people just connect with it, and you know, we loved what we had made, but we weren't sure if other people did, and we were not sure how long we'd run, and it sort of kept chugging along. It's I always say it's like the little big show that could. Um, because at every turn we thought this could never happen, and then each time it did, like weirdly, like yeah, it defied like kind of all the odds.

[22:21] Jason A. Coombs: So I love that. And I was also reading a little bit about the original movie, and they kind of felt the same way. They were like, they weren't sure people were gonna connect to this weird movie, and then it's one of the biggest iconic movies of all time. So it's interesting you guys have had that experience as well. Like, you weren't sure people are gonna connect, and now there's like this amazing huge band base that goes crazy for us, though.

[22:40] Dana Steingold: It's it's wild. It's crazy, like the tour is going super well, and I think they're like sold out everywhere, and they're already planning that on year two, they're going back to cities they already went to because they were sold out and they need to go back again.

[22:54] Jason A. Coombs: That's it.

[22:54] Dana Steingold: Yeah, so it's wild, and it's it's a testament, I think, to like the fan base and a testament to I think um how much we loved each other, and I think that sort of set the I think that's what people connected to as well as the show, um, was how much fun we were having, and you know, now we have this like amazing thing. We got to create a thing, and now we gave it to the world, and now all these people get to play these parts, and that's like so awesome and so special. And every time someone just sent me the girl who's playing the Girl Scout in Japan, sent me a message the other day and was like, I don't speak English very well, but I'm using Google, and I just wanted to say that I'm so excited to be doing this, and I saw it in New York, and I was like, this is so cool because now I've connected with like the girl who did it in Korea, the girl who did it in Japan, and now there's like this little club that we all get to be a part of, and that's very cool to have like started that.

[23:47] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that is so sweet.

[23:50] Dana Steingold: Yeah, it's it's really cool. Like people really love the show, and I get it because I had that kind of love for shows when I was younger too, and so yeah, it's really cool. I certainly loved that production, yeah.

[24:02] Jason A. Coombs: And I love to wore these green earrings like in honor of Beetlejuice.

[24:09] Dana Steingold: Yeah, green, white, black. It's all very Beetlejuice.

[24:12] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I know. Did you see the most recent Sex in the City?

[24:16] Dana Steingold: Anyone?

[24:22] Jason A. Coombs: Without giving away in the finale of Beetlejuice this dinner party and the outfit she's wearing.

[24:31] Dana Steingold: I was like, is this inspired by Delia's costume in the finale of Beetlejuice? Like it's very I think it's oscillary laurenta, but it's very William Ivy Long, a la Lessie Kritzer.

[24:38] Jason A. Coombs: Oh my just now and be like noted understand, I understand this.

[24:38] Dana Steingold: Yeah very black and white yeah how iconic that like you are on the the the cast album at that like the you know the the tours are learning from right and then like community theaters and when they do it in schools like they're gonna be learning from you because people are playing that and they're gonna like learn the show from you that's so iconic it's very cool I will say like that was probably the most meaningful thing because that and the Thanksgiving day parade because those are the things that when I was little that was my entryway to theater because I didn't even know what the Tony awards were you kind of have to have a a knowledge of what the theater space is to know what the Tonies are but everybody watches the Thanksgiving Day parade and watches those performances so I was sort of like whoa what is this like this is so cool and cast albums I used to go to Barnes Noble I'm dating myself here but like I would go to Barnes Noble and I would put the headphones on and like sample all of the recordings because you could listen to everything there before deciding what to buy because this was sort of before YouTube and before social media and all that stuff so we had to imagine what everything was and when we went to theater camp the coolest person was always the person who had the most cast recordings with that and that was my friend Eric and he had every single one um and yeah it's it's so that for sure is like the coolest thing is to have a a song on a cast recording I think do you remember that store in New York yes so much because when I used to, I'm we're from Connecticut.

[26:19] Dana Steingold: So when I used to come into the city for shows, I always went to Colony and thought I was so cool for buying like sheet music and a cast album or whatever I was buying.

[26:29] Jason A. Coombs: Oh yeah.

[26:30] Dana Steingold: Can bring back Colony.

[26:31] Jason A. Coombs: Let's bring back Colony.

[26:33] Dana Steingold: Jeez.

[26:35] Jason A. Coombs: I know.

[26:36] Dana Steingold: It's funny. I love how I didn't even like describe it. I was like, too. I knew it before you were like, yes, I'll read it. But because there's so it's funny, I think when you live in New York long enough, you see all of these things come and go, and you're like, well, I'm a real New Yorker now. Like I'm crying because this restaurant closed that I used to go to every day, or like Colony where you used to be able to find like the weird rare cast albums. Because there was also, oh gosh, was it the Virgin Mega Store? Was that what it was where you could go down as well? And this was like I grew up in Detroit, but I would come visit the city and visit my friends from summer camp. And it was so, so cool when we got to go there. And I would buy everything that wasn't available at my particular Barnes and Noble in Muskegon, Michigan. Um I was like, they don't carry the Broadway kids albums.

[27:26] Jason A. Coombs: Flashback, Virgin Mega Store.

[27:29] Dana Steingold: Oh my gosh. So but let's transition and start talking about The Cottage. Congratulations, by the way. It's getting so well received. And so what do you think it is about this show and this production that's just getting critics to love it and audiences to give word of mouth and people to spread the word and come back? What is it about The Cottage?

[27:52] Dana Steingold: You know, what is it about that sweet cottage? I think much like Beetlejuice, the show is just simply a lot of fun, and I think we sort of underestimate the power of just going into theater or going into a movie right now for just escapism, and you get to come in for two hours and laugh, and you kind of forget what's going on in the world. And that's not to say that there it isn't amazing to go and see something that's dark and meaningful and all these things. It obviously is. But there is something nice about just letting go and being like, I don't have to think that much. I just get to kind of go on this ride. And at the end, you realize you have actually been sort of like, we've planted these seeds for you.

And it actually has a little bit more to say than initially I think it appears. But yeah, I think it's a lot of fun. And I think it sort of speaks to anyone who's married, been married, been in a long-term relationship because it sort of explores like what happiness is and how that changes for each couple. It may not look the same, and it explores like fidelity and um yeah, what a happy marriage looks like. And it has kind of a feminist twist, which also kind of, even though it was it's 1922 in the play, it's um very, I think 2023, very like Barbie-esque um to the patriarchy kind of situation at the end. There's a very like female power, I would say at the end.

[29:20] Jason A. Coombs: I love that. Um, what was the rehearsal process like? And did you get I don't know, I don't want to be insulting because you're a professional actor, but like you get nervous working with someone like Jason Alexander or like Laura Bell Bundy, Eric McCormack, these like huge people that we've watched on TV for years upon years.

[29:39] Dana Steingold: Totally. I mean, I think I was more I wouldn't say it's like nerves, it's more just that you want to uh you don't want to be like the odd man out who like isn't bringing the most to the table, you know what I mean? So I would say it's I don't want to say that it's nerves, it's more just like uh you feel pressure to elevate your work to try to match theirs, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Um but yeah, the rehearsal process is really fun. The great thing about this show is that it really is like six people, and if one of them isn't working as hard as the others, it kind of falls apart. Um, it has to be everyone has to kind of be on the same page. So I feel really lucky to be working with six incredibly generous and creative um actors, and we all really like each other, which I think is also apparent.

Um, because I don't think a show would work like this would work if we didn't. Um, you know, I do most uh I also like I love Alex and I think Lily is most incredible, and we had only done like a reading prior and Nahall too. We had done like a reading a hundred years ago together, but this is the first time we're like properly working together. And it's been so fun, and everyone in the room is so creative. I mean, the things that didn't make into the show are wild, like the things we pitched that I'm like, I would love to see the version of The Cottage where it's just our pitches because there were some crazy ones. Um but yeah, and you know, Jason obviously is like a legend on TV and in and also in the theater world, you know, like being in the original Mary Louie Rollong and Jerome Robbins Broadway and all these things.

Um, so it's just kind of always an honor to be in the room with somebody who has that kind of legacy, and he also enters the space as an actor as well. So he has like both hats on sometimes, and that can be really helpful because he can sort of like help you key in to moments in our working through sort of an actor lens, also, and he'll see when you're getting sort of like stuck, I would say, because you're like, This isn't working for me, like that's why, but it's not feeling organic. And he'll be like, Oh, let's try this instead, and you're like, Okay, that helps, yeah. So I think that's been nice.

[31:55] Jason A. Coombs: I love that. And it was a quick follow-up. Um, how involved was playwright Sandy Rustin in the process? Because you were saying it's such a feminist kind of the patriarchy kind of story at the end. So, like, was she part of the process a lot?

[32:09] Dana Steingold: Oh, yeah, she was there um all the time, and when she wasn't there, very accessible to us. Um, I think like she said, like it's a normal part of her process to sort of step away for a few days also and come back so she can come back with fresh eyes. Um, and yeah, and so she was super involved. We were always texting her, being like, Okay, we're stuck here, like we don't understand what this is. What's your intention here? Because this is confusing to me, or um, you know, and she would always have like an amazing explanation for us as to why the character did the thing that they did because she has been working on the piece for I think 10 years now. Um I might I hope I don't have that incorrect, but she's a really incredible writer and collaborator and friend, and she's just yeah, she's excellent. So she was always around, and then in previews, um, everybody's there the whole time because we're constantly you know editing, changing, replacing, putting back all kinds of things.

[33:08] Jason A. Coombs: That's so cool.

[33:10] Dana Steingold: That's so amazing. So, without any spoilers to our listeners, do you have a favorite moment on stage or a favorite scene maybe that you're not super like heavily involved in?

[33:24] Dana Steingold: Yes. So Lily Cooper has a moment, um, without giving it away, I guess that's tough. But she has a great moment that I think in it it gets everybody on stage involved in like a group physical comedy moment that I think is like really great. And I'm sort of lying drunk on the floor at this point. Not no spoilers. Um so I get to just kind of watch it all happen. Um and I'm sort of the button, but like it's just really fun to watch. Uh and really the drunk section is also very fun. Like who doesn't want to be drunk on stage? You can do whatever you want. So that's okay. Yeah. Like there's really no rules once that happens.

[34:12] Jason A. Coombs: All drugs are off.

[34:14] Dana Steingold: Yeah. Yeah. So in conclusion, everyone, go see The Cottage now.

[34:19] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, and you have till October 29th. So really now. Now it's good. Now is the time. You have eight weeks.

[34:29] Dana Steingold: I know. I was not even gonna say that we haven't seen it yet, but we haven't, but we will be there.

[34:34] Jason A. Coombs: Okay. Yeah, you'll come. It's really, really fun. We'll we'll live stream outside of the theater right before it'll be like, hello, listeners. Just so you know, we've made it to the theater. We're here. We're ready for the drunk scene.

[34:47] Dana Steingold: Thank you.

[34:49] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you, good night.

[34:51] Dana Steingold: Right. Because without any spoilers, my character is sort of like one person in act one and then reveals herself to be a different person in act two. So she she goes on a real journey.

[35:01] Jason A. Coombs: Love that. And you guys did a panel with um our colleague Alan from Broadway Podcast Network, right?

[35:08] Dana Steingold: At Broadway Podcast. Yeah. We didn't make it. Well, I don't know, Jay. Maybe you did. I didn't make it. But I heard it was so good.

[35:15] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, Alan's great. Um, and it's always nice. He's the best. And it's always nice to chat with somebody who is knowledgeable about theater.

[35:23] Dana Steingold: And then it's always nice to be on a panel of women. Cause I always find that to be just really, I don't know, especially in a show that kind of has such a um female, I would say like the undercurrent is very like pro-female. Um, to have a female playwright and then be on stage with these other two very strong women as well, who I respect so much, Lily and Laura. Um, it just was great to have us with Sandy. I think we don't you never get to do an event with just the women of anything. That never happens. So thanks, Alan.

[35:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Thank you, Alan, if you're listening.

[35:58] Dana Steingold: We talk about him, I feel like often these days. And I always tell him, I'm like, did you listen to our latest episode? Because we talked about you. And he's like, no. I sure didn't.

[36:08] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. No.

[36:10] Dana Steingold: This one. Maybe this will be the lucky one.

[36:12] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, for sure. Well, uh, I just want to say you've had such an amazing career so far. Congratulations on all your success. But do you have like a dream role or a dream collaboration that you would like to pursue or just want to manifest? We're big manifesters on this podcast.

[36:30] Dana Steingold: I yeah, I love manifesting. Um, you know, I always say it's like it's always the thing that I don't think is coming is the next dream, right? Because I want to create it and make it. And I think um part of the ability of, or I should say ability, part of being forced to wait, um, to make your Broadway debut, is that like it allows you to take all of this time to sort of really decide what's going to be right for you because if you've waited this long, you're like, what's gonna be the next thing? Like, I want to make sure it's different, and then it pushes me and does all this stuff. So I think um I certainly didn't see Beetlejuice coming, and I definitely didn't see The Cottage coming. So I think my dream role next is probably something else that I don't know exists yet that I get to make from the ground up.

Um, and I love working at the development level. I love being in the room with writers and um creators. I find it fascinating, but also inspiring because I think that's when all the best work happens, is sort of in that time where people are just throwing out ideas. Um, and there's an ownership to it also that you don't get when you replace, like when you replace an Avenue Q. It was an amazing time for me, and I loved doing the show, but you're mostly going to numbers that somebody else decided for you because it was organic to them. And um, and that's a skill in itself, like justifying that. And there are people who are so, so good at it. Um, but yeah, and it was not to say that it wasn't incredible, but it's a different kind of fulfillment than when you've made it and you've created the moments like moment to moment with each person on stage, and you're not kind of just like fitting into somebody else's puzzle piece 15 years later. So yeah, I always I think the dream role is always just something I don't know that will exist hopefully soon, but maybe not soon. We'll see.

[38:23] Jason A. Coombs: That's a great answer. And we asked that question pretty consistently on our show, and I don't think we've gotten that answer yet.

[38:30] Dana Steingold: Oh, really?

[38:31] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I don't think so.

[38:32] Dana Steingold: Not in well, if you want like a stock answer, I can tell you that I think it'd be very fun to be in Six. I think Anne Boleyn looks like a very fun child. It's really so fun. And like everyone wants to do what everyone wants to fly in the bubble, you know, like that's good too.

[38:48] Jason A. Coombs: Just come right on down.

[38:52] Dana Steingold: Come right on down. You know.

[38:55] Jason A. Coombs: Amazing. So we did tell you that we always love to end each episode of the game. We love to keep it light and fun and laugh. Uh so we have a super fun game plan for you.

[39:06] Jason A. Coombs: I hope you're ready. But before we do that, you know you're on Broadway right now, you're doing your thing, being drunk, and who else know whatever else is happening in there that we'll see soon.

[39:07] Dana Steingold: Doing your thing, being drunk.

[39:20] Jason A. Coombs: Doing your thing on Broadway, just being drunk. And a lot of other basic elements to your role, I'm sure.

[39:26] Dana Steingold: I was just being silky.

[39:28] Jason A. Coombs: Oh, yeah. No, the idea of like take being taken out of context. Like, you're on Broadway doing your thing, being drunk.

[39:32] Dana Steingold: We're drunk on Broadway every night. Somebody's listening, like, why she's super professional.

[39:40] Jason A. Coombs: She's doing nips backstage.

[39:42] Dana Steingold: We're kidding, you guys. This is not real. This is not factual. Um, but aside from your performing and your show right now, is there anything that's feeding your soul artistically?

[39:53] Jason A. Coombs: Any TV shows that have been inspiring, books, podcasts, podcasts.

[39:59] Dana Steingold: Um, podcast. Um, I do listen to a lot of podcasts. I tend to get my news now on podcasts because I found it especially like post-election, post-pandemic. Like, I think we were all in this news, like we could not turn off CNN or MSNBC and all these things for literally almost like 24 hours a day.

[40:18] Dana Steingold: And I think we went in overload. So now I try to kind of like do more podcast focused, like actually learn about something for 25 minutes that I can then speak eloquently about like later. So I would say that. And then I don't think we're allowed to talk about the TV shows.

[40:34] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know, but maybe not if we're not promoting them.

[40:36] Dana Steingold: But what I will say is I am an unfortunate reality TV um big fan. It's embarrassing, but they're kind of my life, and I love all the housewives. So right now, having Crappy Lake and Orange County and New York all at once is like an embarrassment of riches.

[40:55] Dana Steingold: So that is saving my soul. Did something to me this summer and brought me back to a place of happiness? Like, can we get a season two of Crappy Lake?

[41:07] Jason A. Coombs: Or I want them to do this where they go to different towns.

[41:11] Dana Steingold: They have to. They must. The fact it is literally true. Like who pitched it? Who was like, okay, Schitt's Creek, but with Luann and Sonya.

[41:23] Jason A. Coombs: So Man Roe on Instagram, like, oh my god, I can't believe it's the finale. Where do you guys want us to go next?

[41:30] Dana Steingold: But Bravo's not saying anything about a season two. And I think they should probably be filming it right now. So I'm really stressed that it's not gonna happen.

[41:39] Jason A. Coombs: And I need it too.

[41:40] Dana Steingold: It would be an error to not have a season two. It is a huge error.

[41:45] Jason A. Coombs: It is like 30 of the greatest minutes of the week.

[41:47] Dana Steingold: Like the things that they are doing are so unbelievable. They're just such good, they're such good characters, and they like know what they're doing. They like are themselves, but they also know what they're playing into.

[41:58] Jason A. Coombs: And it's so fun to watch the two of them.

[42:00] Dana Steingold: They're my two favorites. So I was like, this is the best. I and also I would watch like different people go to like I'd love to see like Vicky and Tamara.

[42:07] Jason A. Coombs: Are they speaking again?

[42:08] Dana Steingold: I don't know, but I'd love to see the two of them go to like a weird town. There are like many pairings that I could see, like in Atlanta pairing.

[42:15] Jason A. Coombs: They should do this like all over.

[42:17] Dana Steingold: I'd like to see Kyle Richards go to a town and see what happens.

[42:21] Jason A. Coombs: That's a great.

[42:22] Dana Steingold: I think you should pitch this to somebody at Bravo.

[42:25] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, Bravo. If you're listening, give us a call.

[42:30] Dana Steingold: Hi Andy, come on. It'd be like the ultimate girls' trip one where they like sent them all, but like send them to small towns and make them stay in hotels.

[42:38] Jason A. Coombs: A la Schitt's Creek.

[42:39] Dana Steingold: Great idea. I may or may not have looked on that website of that motel they stayed in to see how much per night the Luann and Sonia suites are.

[42:48] Jason A. Coombs: Also, they didn't even when they talk about renovating it.

[42:51] Dana Steingold: I was like, I think you just got a TV tray and put on a new bedspread, like without a nectar master, and they got a nectar mattress.

[42:57] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, exactly.

[42:58] Dana Steingold: Like that's the same thing.

[43:00] Jason A. Coombs: So much better.

[43:02] Dana Steingold: They like made a walk-in closet.

[43:04] Jason A. Coombs: Sorry, Jason, probably snow.

[43:06] Dana Steingold: Jason, you should watch. It's like really it's rich.

[43:10] Jason A. Coombs: It's gold.

[43:11] Dana Steingold: It really is comedy gold.

[43:13] Jason A. Coombs: It's uh listen, I'm like a huge fan. I've said this on another show too, but like I went to Luann's thing, like her show if it's four below.

[43:20] Dana Steingold: I ticket for her category. Obsessed. I love that.

[43:24] Jason A. Coombs: It's I love her. All my friends are in it.

[43:28] Dana Steingold: So can be bad.

[43:33] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[43:34] Dana Steingold: So now that we're done gushing over Crappy Lake, thank you so much for joining us today. Lovely to chat with you.

[43:42] Jason A. Coombs: Um, it was so much fun and gave so much great advice, and your career's beautiful, and we can't wait to see what you do next.

[43:49] Dana Steingold: And thank you for providing inspiration to us and to our listeners.

[43:54] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you.

[43:55] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[43:56] Jason A. Coombs: So before we end, we decided this really fun game.

[43:59] Dana Steingold: My dog is barking in the background. I apologize.

[44:01] Jason A. Coombs: Oh Ziggy, we love Ziggy Boy's a mess today.

[44:06] Dana Steingold: But um we decided because all the Beetlejuice fans love Beetlejuice, we're gonna do a little Beetlejuice trip movie trivia, not the musical trivia.

[44:22] Jason A. Coombs: And we always give some extra lifeline, so there's no pressure.

[44:26] Dana Steingold: We'd have to phone a friend.

[44:27] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, holy cheese.

[44:29] Dana Steingold: So don't worry.

[44:30] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, Leslie. Can you help me?

[44:33] Dana Steingold: Well, really, like I don't think any of us have watched the movie in forever because you know, we started the development on this in like 2016 or 2015 or something, and like I was a decade, right?

[44:46] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, like so I haven't I haven't looked at the movie at all because I didn't want to like put anything in my head.

[44:53] Dana Steingold: Yes, yes, we'll see what happens.

[44:54] Jason A. Coombs: I think you'll I think you'll kill it.

[44:56] Dana Steingold: Okay, Jason, you want me to take the first one?

[45:00] Jason A. Coombs: Yes, okay, ready? True or false. Beetlejuice was Tim Burton's feature film debut.

[45:08] Dana Steingold: False.

[45:09] Jason A. Coombs: Correct.

[45:10] Dana Steingold: It was his first film.

[45:12] Jason A. Coombs: His first was Pee-wee's Big Adventure.

[45:14] Dana Steingold: His first film was Pee-wee's Big Adventure.

[45:16] Jason A. Coombs: Look at that. A great movie.

[45:19] Dana Steingold: What was after that? Was it was it Edward Scissorhands?

[45:22] Jason A. Coombs: Was that after that?

[45:23] Dana Steingold: Beetlejuice next.

[45:24] Jason A. Coombs: And then maybe I mean after Beetlejuice.

[45:26] Dana Steingold: Was it Edward Scissorhands?

[45:27] Jason A. Coombs: I don't have that back.

[45:29] Dana Steingold: That's fine. We don't have that back.

[45:33] Jason A. Coombs: But we'll we'll look at it and we'll come back.

[45:36] Dana Steingold: Yeah, we'll DM.

[45:37] Jason A. Coombs: We'll go to your DMs.

[45:38] Dana Steingold: Yeah, let me know.

[45:39] Jason A. Coombs: What year was Beetlejuice released in theaters?

[45:43] Dana Steingold: This is multiple choice.

[45:45] Jason A. Coombs: A 1986, D 1987, C 1988 or D 1989.

[45:55] Dana Steingold: Okay, I'm gonna go with 1989 based on Winona Ryder's age, I think.

[46:00] Jason A. Coombs: Am I wrong?

[46:02] Dana Steingold: He's like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't go with 1989.

[46:05] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, is it 86?

[46:09] Dana Steingold: It's right in the middle.

[46:10] Jason A. Coombs: I chose the end of the Yeah, yeah.

[46:13] Dana Steingold: Well, I think it's 1988.

[46:17] Jason A. Coombs: Great work.

[46:19] Dana Steingold: Great work.

[46:20] Jason A. Coombs: Uh March 30th, 1988 in US Theaters.

[46:24] Dana Steingold: March 30th, really?

[46:25] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that's what I found online.

[46:27] Dana Steingold: That's what the Google told me.

[46:31] Jason A. Coombs: I have an answer. Tim Burton's third movie was Batman.

[46:35] Dana Steingold: And his fourth one was Edward Scissorhands.

[46:38] Jason A. Coombs: Fifth was Batman Returns.

[46:40] Dana Steingold: Oh, Batman Returns so much. Just so we all know, just to clear it up.

[46:45] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[46:46] Dana Steingold: Back to the game.

[46:47] Jason A. Coombs: Another true or false.

[46:49] Dana Steingold: True or false. Beetlejuice was almost titled Scared Sheetless.

[46:57] Jason A. Coombs: Honestly, I'm gonna go with True.

[46:59] Dana Steingold: That seems like something that would be true.

[47:00] Jason A. Coombs: True.

[47:01] Dana Steingold: It's true.

[47:02] Jason A. Coombs: The studio disliked the title Beetlejuice and wanted to call it House Ghosts.

[47:07] Dana Steingold: As a joke, Tim Burton suggested the name Scared Sheetless and was horrified when the studio considered using it.

[47:17] Jason A. Coombs: That seems great.

[47:18] Dana Steingold: I guess because the Maitlands were the little ghost.

[47:22] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, no, that tracks.

[47:23] Dana Steingold: Because also Beetlejuice, like in the movie, is kind of like Michael Keaton's only in it for like 20 minutes or something, and saying it really isn't it's so it is weird a little bit to call it like Beetlejuice because it really was about the Maitlands and Lydia.

[47:38] Jason A. Coombs: So I can see it.

[47:43] Dana Steingold: Okay, last one before the big bonus. What book?

[47:46] Jason A. Coombs: And this is multiple choice.

[47:47] Dana Steingold: What book does Barbara find on the table in their house?

[47:51] Jason A. Coombs: A the Guinness Book of World Records. B How to Die Well, C the Handbook for the Recently Deceased, or D, the Bible.

[48:01] Dana Steingold: Uh C.

[48:02] Jason A. Coombs: C, correct.

[48:05] Dana Steingold: You are gonna know.

[48:06] Jason A. Coombs: Well, I mean, the handout for the recently deceased is like that's the book.

[48:10] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[48:11] Jason A. Coombs: You're like, it's a prop I carried.

[48:15] Dana Steingold: You're like, I know. Talk about it a lot.

[48:16] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that one I think I knew.

[48:18] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[48:18] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, here's a big bonus. I don't think you got any wrong.

[48:21] Dana Steingold: It did take you a couple of guesses to get 1988.

[48:24] Jason A. Coombs: So if you get this bonus, you win the game.

[48:27] Dana Steingold: Okay.

[48:29] Jason A. Coombs: Which iconic young actor played the role of Lydia Deets?

[48:34] Dana Steingold: Ow.

[48:35] Jason A. Coombs: It's Winona Ryder.

[48:39] Dana Steingold: Congratulations.

[48:40] Jason A. Coombs: You killed the game.

[48:41] Dana Steingold: Thank you.

[48:41] Jason A. Coombs: I mean, that come on, you have to know that.

[48:43] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[48:44] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you for participating in the Beetlejuice movie trivia on Survival Jobs the podcast.

[48:50] Dana Steingold: Oh my gosh.

[48:53] Jason A. Coombs: So honored to be a contestant.

[48:55] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[48:55] Jason A. Coombs: You won the game, so your reward is you'll get a VIP invite to the season three premiere party of Survival Jobs.

[49:03] Dana Steingold: I can't wait.

[49:04] Jason A. Coombs: I'll be we have been in season two for almost two years.

[49:07] Dana Steingold: So I'm not sure when the season three premiere party will be.

[49:10] Jason A. Coombs: Maybe I'll see you in 2025.

[49:12] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[49:12] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[49:13] Dana Steingold: Yeah, like very long season two that we just keep rolling, and we're like, one day we'll have season three.

[49:19] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, I think that's fine.

[49:21] Dana Steingold: That's cute.

[49:22] Jason A. Coombs: There are no rules.

[49:24] Dana Steingold: No, you make up your own timeline.

[49:26] Jason A. Coombs: It's good.

[49:27] Dana Steingold: So good.

[49:29] Jason A. Coombs: Um before we go, can you please tell all of our listeners where they can find you on social media and keep up with all of the things you have going on?

[49:38] Dana Steingold: Yes. Um, I am at D Steinface on all of the things, except for maybe threads, which I haven't threaded though.

[49:45] Jason A. Coombs: So I threaded I have not.

[49:48] Dana Steingold: I don't know. I feel like I was thinking for like two days and then I don't know, but I heard this remember that if you try to delete it, that Google delete your Instagram.

[49:50] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know.

[49:58] Dana Steingold: So I've just left it alone. I'm not doing that.

[50:00] Jason A. Coombs: Do we need to make one, Jason?

[50:03] Dana Steingold: I don't know.

[50:04] Jason A. Coombs: I don't know if anyone uses it.

[50:06] Dana Steingold: I've not personally utilized it, but I mean, maybe people are super active on there.

[50:13] Jason A. Coombs: We're still trying to get our TikTok going.

[50:16] Dana Steingold: So I don't know if we can pick up another thing.

[50:19] Jason A. Coombs: TikTok is really hard.

[50:20] Dana Steingold: It really is.

[50:21] Jason A. Coombs: I am actually shocked that there are so many like kids who are so deft at it.

[50:26] Dana Steingold: Like they're very good.

[50:27] Jason A. Coombs: And I am still kind of mystified by the whole thing, and I I don't get it.

[50:32] Dana Steingold: I don't even know why.

[50:34] Jason A. Coombs: I just am like, I hope this episode recorded, you know.

[50:37] Dana Steingold: Like, I don't even I can't figure out anything else.

[50:40] Jason A. Coombs: At some point, I'm like, I need there, and we need to pick one app that we all commit to and use, which I guess is sort of Instagram has been for a while.

[50:48] Dana Steingold: MySpace, let's go back there.

[50:50] Jason A. Coombs: I'm dating myself.

[50:51] Dana Steingold: How dare you?

[50:52] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[50:52] Dana Steingold: What was that guy's name on MySpace?

[50:54] Jason A. Coombs: Jared.

[50:55] Dana Steingold: Tom.

[50:56] Jason A. Coombs: Um, right.

[50:57] Dana Steingold: And he would send you the messages like welcome.

[50:59] Jason A. Coombs: He didn't try to change elections.

[51:01] Dana Steingold: He just did his thing.

[51:02] Jason A. Coombs: I said Jared.

[51:04] Dana Steingold: Who's Jared?

[51:05] Jason A. Coombs: The subway guy.

[51:06] Dana Steingold: Like, didn't he get canceled in a big way?

[51:11] Jason A. Coombs: I think so.

[51:11] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[51:15] Jason A. Coombs: Oh man.

[51:17] Dana Steingold: And if you guys are listening because you're a Dana fan, I'm just bringing it back because I feel like we could like pivot all day.

[51:23] Jason A. Coombs: And not a fan of Jared the subway.

[51:27] Dana Steingold: You're listening because you're a Dana fan as you should be, and you don't follow us yet. But follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Survival Jobs Pod on Facebook at Survival Jobs a Podcast.

[51:40] Jason A. Coombs: Shoot us an email.

[51:41] Dana Steingold: Let us know what you think. Survivaljobspod at gmail.com.

[51:45] Jason A. Coombs: Follow me at Sammy Toots and follow my boy Jason at Jason A. Coombs.

[51:49] Dana Steingold: Thank you, Dana.

[51:52] Jason A. Coombs: And go see The Cottage before October 29th.

[51:55] Dana Steingold: Yeah.

[51:56] Jason A. Coombs: Yes.

[51:57] Dana Steingold: Love it.

[51:58] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you, Dana.

[51:59] Dana Steingold: Thank you.

[52:01] Jason A. Coombs: Bye.

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