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[0:01] Heather Bedor: I was like now we're live.

[0:04] Amber Brzezinski: Look at this.

[0:05] Heather Bedor: It says the stream is.

[0:06] Amber Brzezinski: I believe it too.

[0:07] Heather Bedor: Hey, look, it was almost like we were doing a practice run for Apple.

[0:12] Amber Brzezinski: Right.

[0:12] Heather Bedor: I love it.

[0:13] Amber Brzezinski: I was like, this is great.

[0:15] Heather Bedor: Um, well, hello, we'll just start all over again.

[0:18] Amber Brzezinski: Okay.

[0:18] Heather Bedor: Welcome.

[0:19] Amber Brzezinski: Um thank you.

[0:20] Heather Bedor: Yeah.

[0:20] Amber Brzezinski: So uh what we were talking about before Stream Your decided to not go live.

[0:25] Heather Bedor: Uh, we were talking and gloating about the gentleman joining us right below here, Ken Wulf Clark, Ken Wulf Clark, Ken that guy, whatever.

[0:34] Amber Brzezinski: Uh right now, you can see him on tour with The Notebook as Middle Noah, with that role is just insane.

[0:41] Heather Bedor: Um, but we first decided that we appreciated you as a great human being during Water for Elephants, and I as I was just saying you understudied everybody male-wise except Camel.

[0:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, just about, yeah.

[0:53] Ken Wulf Clark: All three male leads and uh two ensemble members.

[0:58] Ken Wulf Clark: I'm trying to think if there were more, but I think it was just the five.

[1:00] Ken Wulf Clark: I kind of wish that you would have just been like a tumbler, like just I kind of me too.

[1:10] Amber Brzezinski: Holy smokes, what about Gabby?

[1:12] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, what a what a super athlete, all of them.

[1:16] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, it was that that was the biggest shock walking into the first day of rehearsal.

[1:20] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, I've played sports, you know, I've been around athletes.

[1:23] Ken Wulf Clark: But those guys are.

[1:27] Amber Brzezinski: I know now I kind of want to petition to see that happen for you.

[1:30] Ken Wulf Clark: So I really our friend, our good friend Larry.

[1:36] Ken Wulf Clark: Yes, who was a producer at both Water for Elephants and then uh the following season for Sunset Boulevard.

[1:44] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, I don't know if you had a chance to see Sunset Boulevard at all.

[1:47] Ken Wulf Clark: I did not, unfortunately.

[1:49] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[1:49] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, the opening of Act 2, the the big uh the walk, the big walk, baby, yeah.

[1:57] Ken Wulf Clark: Yes, um, at the very end, before he goes out of the theater into the street, one of the actors like goes into the alleyway and walks over onto like uh a fire escape and just does like a side like the human flag or whatever they call it flag, yeah.

[2:23] Amber Brzezinski: Just like our moves, man.

[2:24] Ken Wulf Clark: And I was gonna say, I like to think of it as like an homage of to Water for Elephants.

[2:30] Ken Wulf Clark: Whenever I saw Sunset Boulevard, I was like, you got that from Water for Elephants.

[2:35] Amber Brzezinski: They wish they had Gabby up there right.

[2:38] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, and then you think like the the ones tossing between like guns and like Izzy and my god, but I don't know.

[2:45] Ken Wulf Clark: I think and I I'm just trying to imagine your shift going from Water for Elephants.

[2:52] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, obviously a couple things in between, and then now The Notebook, like very drastic differences, yeah, yeah.

[2:58] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean drastic difference, but as we talked about, also some kind of interesting similarity, yes, a hundred percent.

[3:06] Amber Brzezinski: And I know we'll get into that later.

[3:08] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh or you we can you know what?

[3:09] Ken Wulf Clark: Fuck it.

[3:09] Ken Wulf Clark: Let's get into it now.

[3:10] Amber Brzezinski: Salty on this channel.

[3:13] Ken Wulf Clark: Let's go.

[3:14] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, we're salty.

[3:15] Amber Brzezinski: We absolutely that just oh just puts me right now.

[3:20] Ken Wulf Clark: Put it nice and warm on it.

[3:21] Ken Wulf Clark: I just immediately thought it was just so interesting that in both shows you had the opportunity to play a character that not only is having this look back into their life, but it's also having these moments of interaction with their adult self.

[3:46] Ken Wulf Clark: Two memory plays, yeah.

[3:48] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah.

[3:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Both of the uh the I hate to use the phrase older gentlemen, but both of the actors who play the the older versions of these characters, Jacob and Noah are so good.

[4:01] Amber Brzezinski: Oh yes.

[4:02] Ken Wulf Clark: Also, I just want to say nobody puts Noah in the corner there, but like you're also middle child.

[4:07] Ken Wulf Clark: I just it's that's how I always see that cast.

[4:11] Amber Brzezinski: But no, I mean you have his stellar, more um experienced, if you will, actors playing these like older roles, but then you go back and you have this retrospective memory life.

[4:23] Ken Wulf Clark: It's it's really fascinating because when Amber pointed that out, I was like, you know what?

[4:27] Ken Wulf Clark: That's a hundred percent true.

[4:28] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, I've been thinking about that.

[4:29] Ken Wulf Clark: It's it's the odds are long, but yeah, here we are doing two memory plays and roads.

[4:33] Amber Brzezinski: I'm trying to think, are there any other shows that really do that the way that these shows have?

[4:39] Ken Wulf Clark: And I can't think so.

[4:41] Amber Brzezinski: Nothing's springing to mind.

[4:42] Ken Wulf Clark: I'm sure there's something.

[4:43] Amber Brzezinski: I'm sure, yeah.

[4:44] Ken Wulf Clark: But some for both of them to be in the same season was interesting.

[4:48] Ken Wulf Clark: And something else that I really also love about both of the shows that I think did something very unique is like the dual casting of like the like not ensemble, but like the like the other actors, like the nurse and the mom, for example, in The Notebook, and then like you have Izzy's character and the June and Marlena.

[5:18] Amber Brzezinski: June and Marlena in the note uh in Water for Elephants, you know what I mean?

[5:23] Ken Wulf Clark: So I think it it adds these extra dynamics.

[5:28] Ken Wulf Clark: Seeing you know both of these characters get to play someone in the past and the present.

[5:35] Amber Brzezinski: And it just adds just such a fun layer to these shows, you know.

[5:41] Ken Wulf Clark: Seeing fun, exceptionally emotional.

[5:44] Amber Brzezinski: Exceptionally emotional, yeah.

[5:48] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[5:49] Ken Wulf Clark: Now, Ken being this busy, busy man.

[5:52] Amber Brzezinski: I know you haven't gotten a chance to see a lot of recent theater.

[5:56] Ken Wulf Clark: Um Broadway news.

[6:00] Amber Brzezinski: Let's see what kind of test your uh attachment to the industry is.

[6:06] Ken Wulf Clark: The least plugged in Broadway actor on Broadway industry.

[6:08] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, it's funny.

[6:09] Ken Wulf Clark: You and Matt DeAngelis, I think, said nearly identical, the same thing.

[6:14] Ken Wulf Clark: Like, I'm totally here, but I have no idea.

[6:16] Ken Wulf Clark: But then everybody knows all the things, so yeah, it's like if you're in it, you have no objectivity, I guess.

[6:21] Ken Wulf Clark: You're sort of just like things are happening around you, and you guys like blindership at all.

[6:26] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, yeah.

[6:27] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, it's not like you have a giant show to do every night on your shoulders or anything.

[6:31] Amber Brzezinski: It's the best.

[6:32] Ken Wulf Clark: It is and that's what I love.

[6:34] Ken Wulf Clark: Like, and I you take me as a person who doesn't want downtime too.

[6:38] Amber Brzezinski: No, I I love it, man.

[6:39] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, I love the grind.

[6:40] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, but we'll get to that.

[6:42] Ken Wulf Clark: Let's talk about the news.

[6:43] Amber Brzezinski: Oh my god, he's so pushy.

[6:45] Ken Wulf Clark: Okay, go on.

[6:46] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, come on.

[6:47] Amber Brzezinski: So let's start with the happy news.

[6:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Um there is happy news.

[6:54] Amber Brzezinski: Uh, we had the announcements for the 2026 Grammy nominations for the Broadway Best Musical Theater Album category.

[7:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Okay.

[7:07] Amber Brzezinski: Um, the nods went to Buena Vista Social Club, Death Becomes Her, Gypsy, Just in Time and Maybe Happy Ending.

[7:17] Ken Wulf Clark: Um I don't know if you've had a chance to see any of those shows, but personally three at least of those five have been constantly on my replay list.

[7:29] Amber Brzezinski: So I can I guess.

[7:31] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah, do it.

[7:32] Ken Wulf Clark: I'm gonna rule out Gypsy because it's you know we've had a million of those.

[7:37] Amber Brzezinski: I love you for saying that, but she's gonna listen.

[7:40] Ken Wulf Clark: She's extraordinary.

[7:40] Ken Wulf Clark: I Audra's the queen of Queens.

[7:43] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, but you know, and uh and then I would rule out uh Just in Time because it's a jukebox.

[7:49] Ken Wulf Clark: Am I right?

[7:52] Amber Brzezinski: Okay, so that looks like oh no, no, no, I'm getting nervous.

[7:58] Ken Wulf Clark: Just tell me, just tell me what's in the rotation.

[8:01] Amber Brzezinski: Uh the rotation has been Maybe Happy Ending, Gypsy and Death Becomes Her.

[8:07] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, Gypsy.

[8:08] Amber Brzezinski: Okay, yeah, yeah.

[8:09] Ken Wulf Clark: She loves her Gypsy.

[8:10] Amber Brzezinski: She does.

[8:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Who does it shoot?

[8:13] Amber Brzezinski: But you know, it's it's it's Joy Woods.

[8:17] Ken Wulf Clark: I love Joy Woods.

[8:19] Amber Brzezinski: Oh man, yeah.

[8:20] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, yeah.

[8:22] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh yeah.

[8:26] Amber Brzezinski: Well, yes.

[8:28] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, she was in this little show uh before Gypsy too.

[8:32] Amber Brzezinski: Right.

[8:33] Ken Wulf Clark: What was that?

[8:34] Ken Wulf Clark: I think it was called the the um the journal.

[8:37] Amber Brzezinski: The stuff right the uh the composition, yeah.

[8:41] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

[8:45] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, I mean it's been great that they're getting those Grammy nods.

[8:48] Ken Wulf Clark: Like it's so important, and like it's it's theater's so mainstream.

[8:52] Amber Brzezinski: Like, and Ken, do you find an I I know the show is not necessarily like a single long show, uh, but do you find there's a song from The Notebook?

[9:04] Ken Wulf Clark: Or I mean, we can even go to Water for Elephants that's like stuck with you, or a song from another show that is like your go-to musicals song.

[9:14] Ken Wulf Clark: As far as shows that I've done, done, or I mean anything.

[9:18] Ken Wulf Clark: Done, let's get it done.

[9:20] Ken Wulf Clark: Is is is as far as The Notebook goes, I'll say uh What Happens is my favorite song in the show.

[9:25] Ken Wulf Clark: Um it just it blows my mind that Ingrid this is her first theatrical endeavor.

[9:33] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh you know, she she knows how to put such specific emotionality.

[9:38] Ken Wulf Clark: There's this ache, this yearning in What Happens, and in Leave the Light On.

[9:42] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, but yeah, Leave the Light On.

[9:45] Amber Brzezinski: I was gonna say you got a good one with Leave the Light On.

[9:47] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh man, it's I'm trying so hard to get tickets for when you guys come to Orlando, like I was telling you, I was like, the tickets have been elusive.

[9:56] Amber Brzezinski: Really, but uh yeah, our our theater world here.

[10:01] Ken Wulf Clark: I don't know if you've ever been here in Orlando, it's insane.

[10:05] Ken Wulf Clark: Like it's gonna, it's it's an impossible ticket to get right now because I've only seen the Broadway version, but I can't even imagine with your vocals.

[10:13] Amber Brzezinski: Forget it.

[10:14] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, you're so sweet.

[10:15] Ken Wulf Clark: No, I I love it.

[10:16] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, I it's it's an absolute gift to get to sing that song, and uh I I hope Ingrid finds it in her schedule to continue writing for the theater.

[10:24] Ken Wulf Clark: I really do.

[10:25] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, but specifically What Happens, and part of it is Leash is just so insanely good.

[10:31] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, it it starts out tentative, and like there's this sort of twinkle in the keys, and then all of a sudden, about three quarters of the way, we hit these slow block chords, and it's so smartly done, and it's so well timed and it's so well performed.

[10:46] Ken Wulf Clark: It just mm-mm.

[10:47] Ken Wulf Clark: You know, if you if you love a good like achy breaky love story, I mean she just she knows how to paint that, you know.

[10:54] Amber Brzezinski: Oh yeah.

[10:54] Ken Wulf Clark: I love it.

[10:55] Ken Wulf Clark: I love that song.

[10:56] Ken Wulf Clark: It goes around writing so well, it's beautiful.

[10:59] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, I don't know.

[10:59] Ken Wulf Clark: I would have thought Corn would have been your go-to song for done.

[11:03] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh oh man, my history.

[11:05] Ken Wulf Clark: That's I mean, you know, I'll be okay is one of my all-time favorite songs I've ever sung.

[11:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh it is such a heartbreak.

[11:13] Ken Wulf Clark: I sang it on the Grand Ole Opry in the Year of Our Lord 2015 when Shucked was um it was called Moonshine at Hee Haw Musical.

[11:22] Amber Brzezinski: Right.

[11:23] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah.

[11:24] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh yeah.

[11:24] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh Shucked was the first.

[11:26] Ken Wulf Clark: My dad's not a big like theater fan, and I went to New York with him like right after the show, but so Shucked was his very first Broadway show.

[11:35] Amber Brzezinski: It's a good show for folks who don't know from theater.

[11:38] Ken Wulf Clark: Yes, and then I took him to New York, New York, and Moulin Rouge and Little Shop.

[11:43] Amber Brzezinski: So I started him off the right way.

[11:44] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[11:45] Amber Brzezinski: That's how you get them.

[11:46] Ken Wulf Clark: You get them hooked.

[11:47] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[11:47] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[11:48] Ken Wulf Clark: Before he knows it, we're watching, you know, Ionesco and we're and we're watching like assassins and stuff.

[11:53] Amber Brzezinski: We'll get them.

[11:54] Ken Wulf Clark: We'll get them.

[11:54] Ken Wulf Clark: I was gonna say we have a very Ken uh heavy season at the Bushnell.

[12:00] Ken Wulf Clark: We have The Notebook, Shucked and Water for Elephants.

[12:05] Amber Brzezinski: Oh my gosh, yeah.

[12:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Um I'm gonna pull up because I don't even remember because it was just like New York is in Orlando.

[12:12] Ken Wulf Clark: Ken, what was the last show that you were able to see?

[12:17] Ken Wulf Clark: Operation Mincemeat.

[12:19] Amber Brzezinski: Okay, that's a great one.

[12:21] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, it was built in a lab for me to want to do it too.

[12:24] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, oh my god, it's so good.

[12:27] Ken Wulf Clark: Good farce is farce is easy to find.

[12:30] Ken Wulf Clark: Good musical farce is like we had someone in our Operation Mincemeat group who dressed up as Bernard Spilsbury for Halloween.

[12:43] Amber Brzezinski: And won the costume contest.

[12:44] Ken Wulf Clark: And so good.

[12:45] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah.

[12:46] Ken Wulf Clark: And had the Brian the Lung on their like as a keychain.

[12:51] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, it was shaded or made it out of felt, but they won like the top, like the Halloween costume contest.

[12:59] Ken Wulf Clark: It was like they were staying in dinner, and I was like, heck yeah.

[13:03] Amber Brzezinski: It is a lot of body.

[13:07] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[13:07] Ken Wulf Clark: So good, man.

[13:09] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[13:10] Ken Wulf Clark: This is our this is our season in Orlando.

[13:12] Ken Wulf Clark: The Whiz, Water for Elephants, which I think they just wrapped yesterday.

[13:17] Ken Wulf Clark: And they were playing at Disney.

[13:18] Ken Wulf Clark: Outsiders, Hadestown, and Juliet, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Hell's Kitchen, Kimberly Akimbo.

[13:24] Ken Wulf Clark: You guys will be here May 12th through May 17th and 6th.

[13:29] Amber Brzezinski: That's a good season.

[13:31] Ken Wulf Clark: Dude, I'm not that's a good season.

[13:34] Ken Wulf Clark: All right.

[13:34] Ken Wulf Clark: That's strong.

[13:35] Amber Brzezinski: Let's get some more news out here.

[13:36] Ken Wulf Clark: Come on, this is fun, Amber.

[13:38] Amber Brzezinski: I just wanted to actually I do I do have to give a quick shout out to Olivia, who is leaving comments in here because she is definitely was like the number one Water for Elephants fan.

[13:53] Ken Wulf Clark: She saw the show like a hundred times.

[13:55] Amber Brzezinski: I don't know if you saw in the comments.

[13:58] Ken Wulf Clark: She saw the show so many times.

[14:02] Amber Brzezinski: And I do oop.

[14:04] Amber Brzezinski: I do just want to um shout out as well.

[14:10] Ken Wulf Clark: How much we lost Ken.

[14:12] Ken Wulf Clark: Ken has been.

[14:14] Amber Brzezinski: I'm sorry.

[14:16] Ken Wulf Clark: Ken was just so excited that Olivia's seen the show.

[14:18] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, like I did.

[14:20] Amber Brzezinski: I was looking for the chat.

[14:20] Ken Wulf Clark: I don't have access to the chat, I guess.

[14:22] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, you should.

[14:23] Ken Wulf Clark: It should be on the, are you on your phone or are you on your laptop?

[14:26] Amber Brzezinski: I'm on an iPad.

[14:27] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, it should be on the right-hand side.

[14:29] Amber Brzezinski: But we're happy to real.

[14:31] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, I don't see any chat, and that's too bad. But uh, Olivia, thanks for seeing the show.

[14:36] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[14:37] Ken Wulf Clark: Huge, huge Water for Elephants fan. And we do just want to shout out Olivia's pup, Lucky, who unfortunately um did pass away this week, who was also a huge Broadway fan and stage doored many a show.

[14:51] Amber Brzezinski: I know Olivia.

[14:53] Ken Wulf Clark: So um, shout out to Olivia. Thank you for being such a wonderful part of the Broadway community.

[15:02] Amber Brzezinski: I love it. Um, I just, you know, I did want to mention it at some point, and I did just want to uh just so nice prep peppered in there. Ken, do you guys have any um like tour animals with you?

[15:18] Ken Wulf Clark: We do. Uh, right now, actually, Juliet Ojeda was just flown out to cover younger Allie.

[15:26] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[15:27] Ken Wulf Clark: She brought her little dog who I have yet to really meet meet, but um, Leash sometimes has her puppy. I think the puppy's with us right now. Uh, sometimes the puppy is with her boyfriend Matt, sometimes he's out on tour. Uh, and Tolpegan has her dog Sherlock, who is an adorable little dude on tour with us.

[15:45] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, yeah.

[15:46] Ken Wulf Clark: So we got a few. I mean, it's gonna be hard. Like, I like having furry little creatures. They say that it's something about the action of petting fur.

[15:54] Amber Brzezinski: This is like a study that's been done that releases like the feel-good hormones of your body.

[15:59] Ken Wulf Clark: Got it. Yeah, that has to be true. Like Dr. Evil. That's all I think of. Just but it's bad, like you have to have something. Like it's the road can be lonely, even if you're surrounded by people.

[16:11] Amber Brzezinski: It just touches for sure.

[16:14] Ken Wulf Clark: Absolutely. Go ahead.

[16:17] Amber Brzezinski: I'm sorry. Sorry, no, I had my first pang of missing New York City yesterday.

[16:21] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, why?

[16:22] Amber Brzezinski: I just don't know. I was thinking about, I was talking with my parents about this little hotel that I stayed in when I first flew up for one of my first auditions, and I could see the facade of the building. And then I remembered that it was on 46th Street, right across from the Imperial, where I did Great Comet, where I did Water for Elephants. And I was like, damn, that's my little street. It's kind of my little corner, you know.

[16:41] Ken Wulf Clark: And it is your little corner.

[16:42] Amber Brzezinski: And I got my little bars and everything. I was like, you know, I bitch about the city constantly, but yeah.

[16:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah. I'm in the, I fly from Orlando to New York once a month. And October was impossible because I was out for the count with the migraine stitch.

[17:00] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, yeah.

[17:00] Ken Wulf Clark: And then I'll be up the first week of December for Red Bucket Folly. So I'm like, do I go in November? Do what do I do? Because it's like every couple of weeks. So I feel the pain for it, and I don't live there, but it's I can feel it. And it's like you feel like part of you is missing, and you're like, oh, what is that? Like, I just want to go get my garlic parm fries from Chicken 360. Like, that's all I want to go do right now. And it's, it's like thousands of miles away.

[17:25] Amber Brzezinski: Um, all right, Amber, what else is on super news?

[17:29] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, you know, my favorite thing about New York City.

[17:36] Amber Brzezinski: Speaking of New York City, the greatest city in the world, the greatest city in the world. I'm wearing my Hamilton, I'm wearing my Hamilton merch.

[17:44] Ken Wulf Clark: Um free Broadway performances. Uh, so we have uh the shops at Columbus Circle starting at 5 p.m. on Select Thursdays. It's for Broadway under the stars, starting on uh this Thursday, November 13th, with Moulin Rouge, Death Becomes Her and Juliet the 20th, there'll be Mamma Mia, The Outsiders, and Maybe Happy Ending.

[18:10] Amber Brzezinski: Then of course, Turkey Day, no shows.

[18:14] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh then parade, though.

[18:17] Amber Brzezinski: Wait, there's a parade?

[18:19] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, believe it or not.

[18:20] Amber Brzezinski: I don't know anything about this. Can you tell me more?

[18:23] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh, have your old all done again. I need to know this from both of you. We're from our whole time, too. Has anybody gone to the parade the night before when they're blowing up all the balloons?

[18:35] Amber Brzezinski: No.

[18:36] Ken Wulf Clark: It looks really inappropriate because a lot of the balloons are like human centipeding the entire time.

[18:42] Amber Brzezinski: Um, but I've never been to the parade itself.

[18:45] Ken Wulf Clark: Have you gone?

[18:46] Amber Brzezinski: No.

[18:47] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, I performed in it with Shucked. Um, besides that, that doesn't count.

[18:52] Amber Brzezinski: No, honestly, it seems like an avoider. Like it just seems like you know, it's kind of like New Year's Eve. Like, uh, you won't catch me dead out there. I don't know. My favorite is when I hear people that are like, I'm going to Times Square for New Year's Eve. And I'm like, are you wearing a diaper? Like, what are you doing? And they're so proud. And I'm just like so proud to pee in their pants.

[19:09] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[19:11] Amber Brzezinski: Not for me.

[19:13] Ken Wulf Clark: Yes. We do not, we do not allow king shaming as part of this podcast.

[19:18] Amber Brzezinski: But yeah. Well, you know, and let's talk about that. So when you performed in the parade with Shucked, how was that experience? Because I've had friends that have performed different things, but I want to hear your perspective.

[19:29] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, it's Shucked, it's fun as hell.

[19:32] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, well, yeah, but was that like what time was your rehearsal call?

[19:36] Ken Wulf Clark: Like, oh god, we did have a late night rehearsal. I'm trying to remember, you know, it's it's such a whirlwind. Um, we had a couple of rehearsals, and we you know, we're we're not doing anything crazy. We're doing we're doing the corn bit.

[19:49] Amber Brzezinski: Uh, that's still crazy for a lot of people.

[19:51] Ken Wulf Clark: That's a lot of can't eye coordination.

[19:53] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, well, yeah, it did take us, you know, take some reps to get it into your nervous system. But um, yeah, it was fun, you know, and it's colder than hell, and yes, your adrenaline is through the roof, and it's not quite as uh intense as like the Tony's, but it's you know, everybody's watching and everybody's spending their Thanksgiving, and it's fun, it's fun, it's it's high stress for 15 minutes, but it's like good stress.

[20:18] Ken Wulf Clark: It's been rewarding stress, it is, yeah, I would say so.

[20:22] Amber Brzezinski: For sure. All right, Amber. And then we'll get into the meat and potatoes and harass Ken about his life, as I was saying, or the meat and for that matter. December 4th, then will be the Lion King Aladdin in House Kitchen. December 11th will be six, two strangers carry a cake across New York and the Queen of Versailles, and then the final performance on December 18th will be Operation Mince Meat, The Book of Mormon, and Chicago.

[20:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, that'll be a good night.

[20:52] Amber Brzezinski: That will be a good night, yeah.

[20:54] Ken Wulf Clark: For sure. Uh, we'll see how all those line up. I'm hearing rumors about shows that are part of it, they're not gonna be part of it, so we'll see what happens. But yeah, uh, Queen of Versailles opened last night speaking. Remember Queen of Versailles did open last night, uh very interesting reviews I have not seen interesting reviews you haven't seen any reviews or you haven't seen anything about the show okay I've heard some early scuttle butt and it was it was mixed but not entirely you know bad living in central Florida we physically went through the whole situation with the seagulls and like I could drive to where the house was being built and the documentary being filmed like it's crazy um we've talked about it on the show previously that there's been some like political stuff that came out that kind of shot the show where it stood um and there's now a lot of people are just boycotting it because of said political stuff and comments um book it I've see I've had people that are friends that loved it and people that have seen it they're like no we're staying away um but the reviews everything came out and I'm gonna save this because Amber and I were at the after party for opening night for Water for Elephants and everyone's standing around we're standing with Marissa frozen and waiting left her she's the best her bat boy bat boy bat boy she's calling for Peggy Bundy but she looks incredible and she's so damn happy and I'm so happy to see her doing it.

[22:30] Ken Wulf Clark: What a good show man I'm so glad that boy's getting its due I wish I had time to see it I wish I had time to see it.

[22:38] Amber Brzezinski: Um, everyone's hoping there's a transfer of some sort of something I know it'd be nice it's about for for Gabby Karuba, I don't know if you guys know she's a star kid.

[22:38] Ken Wulf Clark: She's a star.

[22:51] Amber Brzezinski: That's whole the it I just I'm so sad it was such a short run. But we're standing with Marissa at the after party, and everyone's waiting for like the New York Times, and everything's coming through, and the everything's coming through, and every review is like massive, massive, massive. Queen of Versailles got the critics pick from the Times, but then everything else, if you look at like the Roundup review, like it's like the middle, like the the meh or like thumbs down. So it's interesting.

[23:17] Ken Wulf Clark: And we love Steven DeRosa. Uh, we he's one of our members of our boop group. Like, there's some really incredibly talented people as part of that show. So it'll be curious to see kind of their journey through it.

[23:29] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, I hope uh, you know, for the people I know in there, I mean Ryan Nixon and them, like they're so good, they're so talented, they're so hard work. You even if a show doesn't get these and it does get these and those, it's like, man, let these people get their weeks. Pay these actors, you know, stay open forever, as far as I'm concerned. I I'm not a fan of reviews. I don't care if you're the New York Times critics pick. I don't care if you are like the most booed show. If there's a show I want to see, I'm going to go see the show.

[23:57] Ken Wulf Clark: I can remember being on the phone with Amber going, I don't know what show to see. This is last year. Do you remember this conversation with Maybe Happy Ending?

[24:05] Amber Brzezinski: Mm-hmm.

[24:05] Ken Wulf Clark: On the phone. I was like, I don't know what show I want to go see. Like, I'm kind of like I had seen everything at that point because I was up all the time. And I'm going, I just don't know. Like, I can go rush something. And she was like, from what I'm seeing because of the reviews and like the way that the group's behaving, because we can kind of tell like we're shows. She's like, I I would go see Maybe Happy Ending because I think they're gonna close soon. And I saw a Maybe Happy Ending, original cast, and I came out of the show and I was like, That's one of the most unique pieces of theater I've seen in a really long time.

[24:38] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[24:39] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, I'm curious to see what happens, and here they are with you know, the all the freaking Tony's and like still going very strong.

[24:46] Amber Brzezinski: Right.

[24:47] Ken Wulf Clark: I don't think reviews do anything. If I if and when I do get back to New York for a few weeks, it's top of my list to go.

[24:53] Amber Brzezinski: You haven't right.

[24:54] Ken Wulf Clark: That's right. You haven't seen.

[24:55] Amber Brzezinski: I think you'll enjoy it.

[24:56] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, I think you especially because you have that like soulful side, I think you'll really get into it.

[25:03] Amber Brzezinski: Thank you.

[25:03] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, I hope so. I you know, the the word of mouth is so strong, and they've had their own little bit of drama, you know, obviously.

[25:09] Amber Brzezinski: But uh oh, they have.

[25:10] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, believe it or not.

[25:12] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah. Um, but gosh, the premise is is fun. And if the music is that good, and yeah, yeah, I'd I'd love to see it.

[25:19] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah. I uh, it's a good show. There's there's some real I'm excited. The show I'm most excited for is Lost Boys, though.

[25:26] Amber Brzezinski: Oh man, are they gonna break the vampire curse of Broadway?

[25:30] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean I hope so.

[25:32] Amber Brzezinski: Oh yeah, they just lost Casey.

[25:33] Ken Wulf Clark: They just lost Casey, though.

[25:35] Amber Brzezinski: Well, they didn't technically so Casey.

[25:39] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, Ragtime just got extended to next June.

[25:42] Amber Brzezinski: So and as well, it should, yeah.

[25:44] Ken Wulf Clark: Hell yeah.

[25:45] Amber Brzezinski: Um, but they're not like Lost Boys isn't even opening until spring, so I don't blame Casey for extending. Like, that's an incredible show.

[25:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, right. You know, uh one door closes, that door opens for some other talented person to get a job.

[26:00] Amber Brzezinski: And I will take this conversation off Broadway for a second, like out of the theater world. Um, the new Guillermo del Toro movie Frankenstein. I don't know if you either of you have watched it.

[26:09] Ken Wulf Clark: No, I have not yet, but it's love me some Netflix.

[26:13] Amber Brzezinski: Okay, it's incredible. It came out to theaters for like a day and then went to Netflix because that was his original intent. And Andrew Garfield was originally cast as the monster or the creation, and up until two months before filming, Andrew Garfield, like everything was designed after him, costuming makeup applications, special effects. And then it turned into oh my god, Jacob Illordi, who was the lead in The Kissing Booth or something. This like really under like not well-known performer. And now they're talking Oscar. It's like every like when one door closes, another opens, but sometimes next man up. And Andrew Garfield came out and said, When I met Jacob, I knew that it was his time to have that experience. Easy thing to say looking back, you know, but still a gracious thing to say.

[27:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, he chose Andrew Garfield chose to just do other projects. He's like, it's taking too long. And then moved on.

[27:12] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[27:13] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, good for Lordy, man. That's that's so exciting. And that's Oscar Isaac, isn't he? Dr. Haldestine. God. Oh, what a run this guy.

[27:21] Amber Brzezinski: And you're here, you have time. Go watch on Netflix. It's like two and a half hours long.

[27:25] Ken Wulf Clark: I shall. I shall do this.

[27:27] Amber Brzezinski: Incredible. Incredible. All right, Amber, give us some more news to chat about. And then we'll really harass it.

[27:31] Ken Wulf Clark: All right. Um, as we mentioned earlier, which I think didn't make it to the air because I think we were off air. Daniel Radcliffe will be returning to Broadway in Every Little Thing.

[27:46] Amber Brzezinski: Uh, so it is a one-man show.

[27:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh, the work will be making its uh West will be making its Broadway debut after making its West End debut.

[27:59] Amber Brzezinski: And we also have a new Every Brilliant Thing on Broadway fan group.

[28:04] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh yes.

[28:05] Amber Brzezinski: Um, so the solo play debuted at the Edinburgh Frit uh fringe, where it played out uh three consecutive summers so it is apparently a hit and this is more French on Broadway so we love seeing French succeed on Broadway like women's heat and you know we just everything just in it fringe is everything fringe is the world I would love to go with Ken you've never been to fringe festival I've never been to Scotland well no but I mean you've got New York fringe which was frigid fringe no I I have never been in the fests and that's on me entirely yeah because the tickets were like eight bucks and you're the most local theater stuff but it's incredible so I submitted for the Orlando fringe to produce the so show we'll see what happens okay yeah and then if you're around you can actually you guys might be here during the show you can come to the show oh go shoot will I might have a show I'll I'll make it work yeah yeah let me know what's going on I'd love to see it I'll keep you posted yeah all right Amber sorry it's the white claw it's the law getting you know I'm not dying anymore I'm not in the hospital anymore we've got Ken you're here you're wearing glasses you look great we're having a good time I had an eye doctor appointment today my eyes are good by the way um we have some happy news in order we have Iva no blazada now evacarney congratulations.

[29:48] Amber Brzezinski: Who officially tied the knot um in New Orleans?

[29:54] Heather Bedor: And they officially got married in New Orleans.

[29:59] Amber Brzezinski: It was literally the cutest wedding.

[30:02] Heather Bedor: They looked beautiful.

[30:04] Amber Brzezinski: The um the official Hades Town account shared like the sweetest video.

[30:12] Heather Bedor: Um of you know, just like a slow-mo adorable video to all I've ever known.

[30:18] Amber Brzezinski: And it was I think what this proves is showmances can go beyond just a showmance.

[30:25] Heather Bedor: Right, for sure.

[30:28] Amber Brzezinski: And that's I mean, that's just gonna be like the story for so long.

[30:34] Heather Bedor: I mean, those two.

[30:35] Amber Brzezinski: It's like, come on, man.

[30:36] Heather Bedor: I I was up to get the notebook.

[30:38] Amber Brzezinski: That's the love story on Broadway.

[30:39] Heather Bedor: Jeez.

[30:41] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, I mean, I I know both of them, they are truly like the most uh lovely people you'll ever encounter.

[30:49] Heather Bedor: And it just makes sense, it just makes sense, and that's just so cool.

[30:54] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, so cool.

[30:56] Heather Bedor: Go on, Amber.

[31:01] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, I think are you are you frozen or am I?

[31:05] Heather Bedor: I don't know.

[31:07] Amber Brzezinski: Hello, I see you.

[31:09] Heather Bedor: Can you hear me and see me?

[31:11] Amber Brzezinski: I see Heather.

[31:11] Heather Bedor: I Amber is choppy, she's doing a lot of it.

[31:14] Amber Brzezinski: She's got two thumbs up there.

[31:15] Heather Bedor: Okay, Amber, you're kind of breaking up.

[31:18] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, I can take over for a little bit so we can see if it's just a storm because she's in Connecticut right now, so it's all the weird storm stuff.

[31:25] Ken Wulf Clark: And I'll and I'll look at our comment section.

[31:27] Amber Brzezinski: Everyone's talking about Paddington.

[31:30] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, Ken, have you seen any of the videos?

[31:34] Ken Wulf Clark: I saw the bear.

[31:35] Ken Wulf Clark: I saw a little tech demo on the bear, and holy smokes, sure looks like Paddington.

[31:39] Ken Wulf Clark: And sounds like Paddington.

[31:41] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah.

[31:42] Ken Wulf Clark: Holy crap.

[31:43] Ken Wulf Clark: What a thing they've done.

[31:44] Ken Wulf Clark: The puppeteer, the voice actor, and then they have the a different actor on stage.

[31:49] Amber Brzezinski: Yep.

[31:50] Ken Wulf Clark: And I'm just like, I I don't know how to feel about this because it's hyper realistic, and everybody thought they were gonna pull an Olaf where it was just a puppeteered version of Paddington, and then Outlock's freaking like it's actually Paddington.

[32:04] Amber Brzezinski: I the man himself, yeah.

[32:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[32:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh with orange marble and sandwiches.

[32:08] Ken Wulf Clark: Like, come on.

[32:10] Amber Brzezinski: Um, so yes, in our comment section, you can't see it, but people are saying uh Timothy says, I don't think it will play as well since Paddington is a love story in London because people are saying they hope that it transfers here to New York.

[32:22] Ken Wulf Clark: So it'll be interesting, but I mean that's a beloved story.

[32:25] Ken Wulf Clark: And if if they can do that with the technology and not make it look awful, um, and that kind of puppetry, like I am would love to see what they're able to do with it, like moving forward kind of showing.

[32:38] Ken Wulf Clark: They won't have to have me and Mike Mendez and an elephant lugging its ass around, sweating bullets, breaking our back.

[32:47] Ken Wulf Clark: Were you guys ever told the trunk story?

[32:47] Ken Wulf Clark: The trunk.

[32:52] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[32:52] Ken Wulf Clark: Do you not know the trunk?

[32:54] Ken Wulf Clark: So you know, obviously, you know, but the scene with like Rosie's trunk, like just that trunk puppeteer piece.

[33:01] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, in act one, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[33:03] Ken Wulf Clark: So there was I uh I'm not gonna tell you how I found this out, but when that piece was being shipped into the country after fabrication, it was stopped by the government and like all sorts of stuff because all it said on the outside of it was elephant and trunk.

[33:23] Ken Wulf Clark: And we think we think ivory.

[33:26] Ken Wulf Clark: They thought it was an actual full elephant trunk with ivory.

[33:30] Amber Brzezinski: Yep.

[33:30] Ken Wulf Clark: Good for them for checking that out, honestly.

[33:34] Ken Wulf Clark: So that's that's like the best, like puppeteered.

[33:37] Amber Brzezinski: Oh Amber, I heard it.

[33:39] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, are you back?

[33:40] Amber Brzezinski: I think I had too many windows open.

[33:43] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, okay.

[33:44] Amber Brzezinski: Classic.

[33:46] Ken Wulf Clark: Those are my emotional support tabs.

[33:48] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, that's what I call mine too.

[33:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[33:51] Ken Wulf Clark: It's dangerous.

[33:52] Amber Brzezinski: All right, Amber.

[33:53] Amber Brzezinski: I know you've got some more news.

[33:54] Ken Wulf Clark: I really want to get into talking to Ken because he's got a lot to say, and I love it.

[33:58] Amber Brzezinski: I mean, I don't have that much more news.

[34:00] Amber Brzezinski: Um, you know, Jeremy Jordan's back at the Great Gatsby, Ryan played his last performance yesterday.

[34:07] Amber Brzezinski: Jeremy's back as of today.

[34:09] Ken Wulf Clark: I didn't know that.

[34:10] Amber Brzezinski: Okay, good for them.

[34:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[34:12] Amber Brzezinski: Um, we also have Sharon Chris back at the Maybe Happy Ending.

[34:18] Amber Brzezinski: I was like, the what's the name of that show?

[34:20] Ken Wulf Clark: Um Maybe Happy Ending.

[34:22] Amber Brzezinski: The reminder with Jeremy from what we're seeing across the groups and Reddit is that Jeremy is coming in and they're slowly phasing the show into a tour.

[34:33] Ken Wulf Clark: I thought that gets it not out.

[34:35] Amber Brzezinski: Are they not already?

[34:36] Ken Wulf Clark: No, they have been out and sold as closed.

[34:40] Amber Brzezinski: Um so it's not on tour, but I think they're like bringing in the tour.

[34:48] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah, okay.

[34:49] Amber Brzezinski: That that makes sense.

[34:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, plus he's what a what a run, you know.

[34:53] Amber Brzezinski: Geez, like yeah, pretty good.

[34:55] Ken Wulf Clark: I did really good.

[34:56] Amber Brzezinski: It's one of the few shows that's still running from that season.

[35:00] Ken Wulf Clark: So yeah.

[35:03] Amber Brzezinski: Um, then speaking of speaking of tours, we could see boop on tour.

[35:13] Ken Wulf Clark: We can see poop on tour.

[35:15] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, they did announce a boop tour, so that's a very exciting.

[35:20] Ken Wulf Clark: I think that'll probably tour pretty good.

[35:22] Amber Brzezinski: I think so too.

[35:24] Amber Brzezinski: I think that'll be a fun touring show for families.

[35:27] Ken Wulf Clark: Um I'm assuming you did not get a chance to see that one, Ken.

[35:31] Ken Wulf Clark: No, I don't see nothing, man.

[35:33] Ken Wulf Clark: It's a sad, sad story.

[35:34] Amber Brzezinski: It's okay.

[35:35] Ken Wulf Clark: It's okay though, but I'm gonna tell you something that I'm really excited about, Amber, because you brought it up.

[35:40] Ken Wulf Clark: Intermittently, you didn't know that you brought this up.

[35:42] Ken Wulf Clark: They just announced the entire lineup for Epcot's International Festival of the Arts, which is like just essentially a giant commercial for Disney on Broadway.

[35:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Ken, you'll recognize some of these names too.

[35:54] Amber Brzezinski: Um so let me pull it up as I'm trying to desperately get it.

[35:58] Ken Wulf Clark: Um this is what this world is doing to me now.

[36:03] Ken Wulf Clark: So they do the Disney on Broadway concert series, and it's performers that are in Disney shows.

[36:08] Ken Wulf Clark: You probably both know where I'm going.

[36:11] Ken Wulf Clark: In January, Adam Jacobs will be there, and um this this actress that I think we kind of know, uh Isabella McCollula will be there.

[36:20] Amber Brzezinski: So is I know that rings a bell, yeah.

[36:23] Ken Wulf Clark: A little bit.

[36:23] Ken Wulf Clark: So Izzy is performing June 6th, 18th, 19th, 22nd, 24th, 26th, and 27th.

[36:29] Amber Brzezinski: She's such a stud, dude.

[36:31] Ken Wulf Clark: She's so good.

[36:32] Ken Wulf Clark: Just the world to Izzy.

[36:33] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[36:34] Ken Wulf Clark: Just um I her easy was I can still hold my hands too.

[36:39] Ken Wulf Clark: Get the hell out of here, dude.

[36:40] Amber Brzezinski: She, yeah, yeah.

[36:41] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, the moment she showed up and shucked is oh yeah.

[36:45] Ken Wulf Clark: We were doing daytime rehearsals, you know, and I was the understudy for both, so come on in, we're gonna get into the show.

[36:50] Amber Brzezinski: Wait, you were?

[36:51] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, I how awful to work with Andrew Duran, too.

[36:54] Amber Brzezinski: Oh I know.

[36:54] Ken Wulf Clark: What a what he's just mean.

[36:56] Amber Brzezinski: He's such a mean and he just doesn't have any work ethic whatsoever.

[36:59] Ken Wulf Clark: No, no.

[37:00] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, constantly, constantly calling out, you know, just oh terrible, terrible, terrible.

[37:04] Amber Brzezinski: For those of you who don't know, Andrew is none of these things.

[37:06] Ken Wulf Clark: He's kind of sweet.

[37:07] Ken Wulf Clark: He's extraordinarily dedicated professional person.

[37:10] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah.

[37:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Up with Izzy, up with Andrew Durand.

[37:13] Amber Brzezinski: Yes.

[37:14] Ken Wulf Clark: But yeah, um, so Izzy will be there, but also um, blah blah Ainsley, Malham.

[37:22] Amber Brzezinski: Boop.

[37:23] Ken Wulf Clark: Okay, yeah.

[37:24] Ken Wulf Clark: And because he was in Aladdin as well, him and Ashley Brown will be performing in February.

[37:28] Amber Brzezinski: Lovelet.

[37:29] Ken Wulf Clark: Lovela.

[37:30] Amber Brzezinski: Didn't Andrew, there's there's an announcement about Andrew.

[37:33] Ken Wulf Clark: I was just gonna say, speaking of Andrew, we'll be we'll be able to see him in the uh dentist chair.

[37:44] Ken Wulf Clark: Down on what a stud, man.

[37:48] Amber Brzezinski: Oh my god, I'm dying.

[37:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Dying, oh gosh, he's gonna kill it.

[37:52] Ken Wulf Clark: He's gonna kill it.

[37:53] Ken Wulf Clark: He's gonna milk that.

[37:55] Ken Wulf Clark: It's gonna be amazing.

[37:56] Amber Brzezinski: So I can't wait to see what he does in that in that.

[38:01] Ken Wulf Clark: As much as I love Little Shop, I'm just gonna wear my dead outlaw shirt and just stand and look at him because I'm like, hello.

[38:10] Ken Wulf Clark: I wanted to be in dead outlaw so oh my god, you would have been great.

[38:14] Ken Wulf Clark: Bad I fumbled the bag.

[38:15] Ken Wulf Clark: I had a final callback and I just fumbled the bag, dude.

[38:18] Amber Brzezinski: No, well, look, they you can get into this, it's fine.

[38:22] Ken Wulf Clark: It's the kind of chapter.

[38:23] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, I they they asked me to learn a guitar song with two days before the audition, and instead of like working on all the material that I had already worked on, I spent every moment trying to learn this guitar part, and I got in there and I was like 75% solid on it, and the stress chemicals took over, and I fucked it so bad.

[38:43] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, oh no.

[38:45] Ken Wulf Clark: I felt so stupid.

[38:46] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, it all worked out.

[38:47] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, I I the job I have is I've been waiting for this job for 15 years, man.

[38:51] Amber Brzezinski: So you know, and what is that again?

[38:53] Ken Wulf Clark: I don't know you're I thought you were unemployed at this point.

[38:55] Ken Wulf Clark: The notebook, the musical, the two.

[38:57] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, that thing.

[38:58] Ken Wulf Clark: I I've heard okay things about it.

[38:59] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, it's all right.

[39:00] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, yeah.

[39:01] Ken Wulf Clark: I heard they uh have tissues as souvenirs, that's all I know about it.

[39:05] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, yeah, they're looking cocky of them, but uh you know, on brand for sure.

[39:10] Ken Wulf Clark: That's the first thing I ever said about that when I heard about the damn tissues.

[39:14] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, yeah.

[39:15] Ken Wulf Clark: Amber has two packs.

[39:16] Amber Brzezinski: It is pretty boxes.

[39:18] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, let's be real.

[39:19] Ken Wulf Clark: Let's be real about shows.

[39:20] Ken Wulf Clark: Go ahead.

[39:21] Amber Brzezinski: I'm sorry.

[39:22] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah.

[39:23] Amber Brzezinski: Wait, me?

[39:24] Ken Wulf Clark: No, Amber.

[39:25] Ken Wulf Clark: Amber was I have two boxes because I needed one to open while I watched the show, and then one to like take home after the show.

[39:34] Ken Wulf Clark: Exactly what we're going for.

[39:35] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, exactly.

[39:37] Ken Wulf Clark: But I think in New York they were like 10 bucks.

[39:39] Amber Brzezinski: I think you said on tour they were five.

[39:41] Ken Wulf Clark: I think they were the same price.

[39:43] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, yeah.

[39:44] Ken Wulf Clark: So it's always fun when people at like people who stage the door, they're like, We signed my tissue box.

[39:49] Ken Wulf Clark: Hell yeah, I'll sign your tissue box, dude.

[39:51] Amber Brzezinski: Have you ever had anything like super weird at any of the shows that you've done?

[39:55] Ken Wulf Clark: What's like the weirdest thing you've ever asked been asked to sign at the stage for?

[39:59] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, a tissue box is probably up there.

[40:02] Ken Wulf Clark: Um you know that's that's certainly unique to the notebook.

[40:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Oh, you know, it's always funny.

[40:07] Ken Wulf Clark: People bring like um playbills from shows that like sometimes I'll get a great comet piece of memorabilia, and that's gotta be fun.

[40:16] Amber Brzezinski: I mean but so and I appreciate now.

[40:18] Ken Wulf Clark: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some kudos for a second.

[40:21] Ken Wulf Clark: I appreciate you as a performer who's like, I will absolutely fucking sign a playbill from another show or merch from another show because it makes you feel good, because it means like somebody's been following your career, they're a fan of you.

[40:33] Ken Wulf Clark: I I'm more appreciative that somebody loves Great Comet, really.

[40:37] Amber Brzezinski: Well, that but also would you you're not the kind of person if someone brought a great comet play bill or a shocked playbill or piece of corn and they ask you to sign it, you know.

[40:47] Ken Wulf Clark: Like you're not gonna be like, I don't sign anything from another show.

[40:51] Ken Wulf Clark: That would be no, no, I'm not gonna do it.

[40:53] Ken Wulf Clark: It's happening a lot.

[40:54] Ken Wulf Clark: That's trending at the stage tour.

[40:56] Ken Wulf Clark: A lot of a lot of people in different shows were like, I will only sign a play bill from the showman right now.

[41:02] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh I'm sure they have their reasons, and I don't want to throw shade at anybody who does that.

[41:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh, but no, I can't imagine if someone wants me to sign some.

[41:10] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean you got it, bud.

[41:12] Amber Brzezinski: Olivia just said that at O Mary, someone brought their olive garden takeout and had Jinx Monsoon sign it, and now she did sign it.

[41:19] Ken Wulf Clark: All right, that's awesome.

[41:21] Ken Wulf Clark: I mean, what a bold move, Cotton.

[41:23] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh you know, that that's that's good stuff right there.

[41:26] Ken Wulf Clark: Like honestly, just the tissue boxes were the weird thing, not even weird.

[41:31] Ken Wulf Clark: Yes, you know, I I haven't done too much uh autographing, but really when something comes from a a show that I haven't thought about in a while, that I you know that I'm proud of someone brought a jagged little pill play bill the other night.

[41:43] Ken Wulf Clark: Wow, and after I got over here, sorry, I love that show so much.

[41:47] Amber Brzezinski: Like I you have been part of some of my favorite shows, and I it just a testament to your career.

[41:53] Ken Wulf Clark: Like I'm kind of fan of what's but it's true because you've been part of these shows that like are like almost like cult followings, like it you you get into the show, you see the show, you're like, I get the show, and then you just attach yourself to it, like great comet and everything.

[42:08] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, nine people's favorite thing thing, right?

[42:10] Amber Brzezinski: I mean, like the people who dig it really dig it, and it it's gratifying.

[42:13] Ken Wulf Clark: Of course, they'll sign your thing from my show 10 years ago man you kidding me if you still love it I love you like yeah give me the you get a doodle my man I think we're just gonna challenge anyone that's gonna go see the notebook on tour right now that they have to bring you something weird to sign like a McDonald's happy meal box and then they just give you the toy oh somebody had a had a postcard made up oh my god this is the weirdest but it you know I signed it uh I did a a guest star on Gotham in 2017 I did yeah uh and they had a picture sort of postcard made up because they were putting together a scrapbook and it was me with I had this long beard with like braids and stuff and I had like now Ken oh it's a nightmare dude yeah it's it's uh it was it was a fun thing to do I learned a lot uh I got like arrested by commissioner Gordon he like slammed my face down on the bar and roughed me up and everything and it was cool man that's maybe the the randomest thing that is beard's not that bad I know they they put these little like I don't know what you call them like they put in them like the wefts yeah oh yeah so yeah go ahead I have like a kind of fun thing that I did not tell Heather about oh my god I don't like this bring it on this I have a question for you Ken yeah this is my question what is it like to technically be on stage with yourself.

[43:46] Ken Wulf Clark: Love it. It's fun. It's cool. Uh, so Bo and Kyle, the other Noahs. Um, I assume this is what you're referring to. Uh, there's this constant, not game, but like, I'll give you an example. When we do "Iron in the Fridge," which is in uh act two, you know, there's all three of us singing, it's a trio, and the Allies sort of do this sort of memory shadow play where we interact with them, they leave us, and you know, that's sort of what the story we're telling is Allie leaves three times throughout this man's life, right? And as we leave, we leave Bo to finish the song on his own, Kyle and I. As the weeks went on, without ever talking about it, Kyle noticed my right hand was in my right pocket. So his right hand started to slide into his right pocket.

I started noticing that my left foot was a little out of sync with his right foot. I made some adjustments, and all of a sudden, he's starting his exit, I'm starting my exit. We match up right hands and pockets, matching stride, looking at each other. Little things like that start to make their way in. The other night, this is more recent, you know, in act two. Bo kills me, man. He absolutely murders me. It's so hard to just keep my shit together with this guy. But he he's begging the nurse, please let me see my wife. We're running out of time. And he has this little thing where he grabs at his leg to the bum knee that was wounded in Vietnam. I know exactly what senior. Yeah, and I pop up and I'm like, I'm not the one to run away.

And I'm like supposed to like encourage him, do not give up. You never gave up before, you're not gonna do it now. And so as he's talking to the nurse, I start to grab my leg a little bit. And you know, for the 16 people who notice these sorts of things, I hope it has a little bit of an impact. But I am gonna tell you it's more than 16 people, though, I'm sure of it, because those little nuances, that's what I know. I focus on. I know Amber focuses on that too. We're looking at the connections that performers have with their character and watching stuff like that, that synchronicity, and that just like gelling, like you're all the same person, but you're clearly three different people. It's really beautiful to watch.

[46:00] Heather Bedor: I'm glad to hear it. Uh, I mean, those guys, I love those guys. I really, you know, it's early in the tour, but we're all still crazy about each other. You know, it's such a good group of people.

[46:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, but you think that that's your family on the road.

[46:12] Heather Bedor: You have to, yeah.

[46:14] Ken Wulf Clark: We are locked in together, you know. And I feel like Michael and Shelley and Ingrid and everybody did a lot of work in, a lot of research, a lot of phone calls to see, you know, are these personalities gonna jive? Are we gonna have a functioning group? Not just talent on stage, but personalities who want to work together, and it's just been the best, dude. Really, really good.

[46:30] Amber Brzezinski: It's good to keep a warm hug.

[46:33] Ken Wulf Clark: I love it. All right. So now part two of that question.

[46:38] Amber Brzezinski: Oh boy, oh, I'm excited.

[46:40] Ken Wulf Clark: Is that hold on one second? Oh, she's oh oh boy, this is like extra work. Okay. I actually this is a question that I this question wow man to your castmates when you guys were on tour here at the Bushnell. So you get to hear your castmates.

[47:06] Amber Brzezinski: What is the question?

[47:06] Ken Wulf Clark: The same question.

[47:08] Amber Brzezinski: Oh, this is oh, this is gotcha journalism.

[47:11] Ken Wulf Clark: Gotcha journalism. I thought would be great to get from Bo's perspective. Bo plays older Noah. So we have these moments together a lot on stage.

[47:18] Amber Brzezinski: Hey, in both older.

[47:20] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, go ahead. So the question is, you know, let me read it. What is it? What's it like to I don't have my glasses on? What is it like to be on stage with yourself, technically?

[47:31] Ken Wulf Clark: Yours. Let me just say, watching these guys, I didn't know until like two or three performances in, like previews, that like not only could I see you, but that you were there to help me, to help to help in my journey. So I started to see you as allies. And I'll tell you something. The only way I can get specific about it is there's a moment towards the end of the show where I'm on stage. I'm in bad shape. And um middle Noah and younger Noah come to help me. They actually physically take me by the hand, and then they move me to a side, and I turn it. Here you go, Bo, you can keep going. So anyway, these two guys they take they actually take my hand and they deliver me to a side to one side of the stage.

And then I turn around, I see you guys, both of you guys, and to I think you have to be older to appreciate this, to see a younger and way younger version of yourself standing there singing to me. And you guys are singing to me for me, and it's it's uh what do you say? Love, whatever happened to love, it's all I have to believe in. Yeah, and it knocks me out. You guys are both you're bringing different energy, but so strong, equally strong, and it's so you're you're both so beautiful, and it's coming at me, and I'm I'm every night I recognize the gift in it. Do you know what I mean? I it's so powerful and singular. So it's intense if that answers the question to see yourself younger and not so young or middle-aged and not so young, and and and there to help you. If you could picture it that way, you can get an idea.

[49:11] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, so the last yeah, so if you guys can imagine that, if you can imagine yourselves facing your facing your you and bringing gifts like that, that's what it's like. It's it's quite something, and it's ungrateful every night.

[49:24] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, that's a beautiful answer to that.

[49:26] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, yeah.

[49:28] Ken Wulf Clark: So yeah, you know, that's beautiful.

[49:29] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, well put, well put, agree with all of that. I just I always saw the characters as like the ghosts of the past. Like I know that it's brought in, but that moment where the physical contact happens. I personally sitting in the audience in New York, you heard this col and I don't know if it happens on tour, you hear this like almost collective like sigh. Like there's this moment where friends like, like they've broken the fourth wall, essentially. Like there's this moment of like they were it's an unexpected move, but it just makes sense.

[50:02] Ken Wulf Clark: Well, it makes sense because we we are all if if we're really you know living an examined life, a self-examined life, our younger versions of ourselves, the people who had dreams of who they would eventually become are constantly watching us to see how close we get, what changes we made to ourselves. Are we making our younger selves proud? And I I can see what Bo is absolutely talking about. I mean, I'm not I haven't lived as much life as Bo has. I don't have kids yet or anything like that, but you know, I think about my pre-college pre-theater self, you know. Uh before I wanted any of this, am I still the am I being the person who I hoped I would become, you know, and and this project, this show doing this every night, it definitely calls that sort of thing to mind.

It's it's hard not to get introspective and retrospective. Uh yeah, I mean, you think it's amazing you guys talked about very similar scenes in the show and this very similar parts of the show, you know what I mean? Like it's it's not I don't want to say frustrating, but it's like we have so much respect for each other, uh, but we don't get to play a scene together, yeah. Right until that scene, you know, and I think that's part of like you know, this this tension finally gets released for the audience to see you know, all the Noahs come together, and like we're making one last push to be with this woman if it kills us, you know, and getting misty thinking about it, dude.

[51:27] Ken Wulf Clark: It's yeah, yeah. I the show I've never cried so much on a show, and I'm not the girl that wants to go to a show to cry. And our listeners, if they've tuned in last year, when I saw the show, I was sitting at Dee Dee's soup dumpling, Amber knows the story, and I had gotten a phone call from my mom. My stepdad was in the hospital. Um, I got a phone call from my mom, and it was when can you get home? And they were giving him like two days. I was literally getting, and he has uh he has what's called corticobasal degeneration, which is Alzheimer's dementia and par Demarcia and Parkinson's all in one fell swoop. And so I left. I'm getting teary, I think about it now. I left Didi's because clearly I can't eat.

I'm going, I I'm going to see the show. I need to introduce myself. I we always introduced it ourselves to the theater because we're running the group and I have the tickets, I'm going in. And I was just a mess the whole night. He's still with us, but he's in hospice. But it was my life on stage for a good while of it from the other side of things. And um, I think I was just so emotional, but I was looking at the whole audience, and everybody's like that, and that's gotta be a lot on the whole cast's shoulders. You guys are living in this very emotionally charged theater.

[52:52] Amber Brzezinski: And do you ever get a chance? Because I I know as a good performer and as a good person, you are very attached to these characters. You are that character, you are that you embody that. Do you have any way to like is there like a cast decompression? Like I know I've talked to some productions that actually have like a therapist on staff that will like sit and talk to like pull everybody kind of back into that world. Or are you or somebody in the cast, do they want to live in that until the tour's over? Because you kind of have to still be in it every night.

[53:26] Ken Wulf Clark: Um, it's a good question. So I guess the first thing I'll say is, and and Bo will back this up if you talk to Bo. I weep like a baby during rehearsal. No. I let it, I let it happen. You know, I weep like a babe. I try to get myself to feel all the things I'm supposed to feel so that I can get a little bit more technical about the job when we're getting into performance 75, 100, 150. It is hard to sing B flats when you're crying. It's hard. Yes. And you owe the audience the best B flat you can muster, you know, and so I I try to let it all out in rehearsals and previews, and then if anything does get through in the show, I'm still solid enough to get through it without sacrificing anything. And if I do get overwhelmed with emotion in the show, it's a treat.

It's a it's a reward. It's you know, it's catharsis for me. I'm not there to feel anything, right? I'm there to make them feel something, you know. Trying to maintain that sort of professional objectivity about it, I find to be helpful.

[54:39] Ken Wulf Clark: Um and what's delicious about it is if I fail, I get I get to I get to feel, you know. I I get to join the audience, you know.

[54:48] Amber Brzezinski: Yeah, because you have to feel like I've earned it, you know.

[54:50] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, right. Because you have to separate yourself from it to do the job, but you have to be there to do the job. So it's yeah, it's hard. It's it's like compartmentalizing and it's finest. That's a huge part of the career, I find is compartmentalization, and you can go too far with it, uh, and it's a balance for sure. But you know, it's it's an intense job, you know. Six days a week, you are doing this, and you have to have something else going on, or a couple other things going on to get you back to yourself, you know.

[55:19] Amber Brzezinski: Well, I mean, you've had fun roles in the past, I think. Would this would you say this is the most like emotionally driven role that you've been you've had some emotional roles, but to me, I think this is probably the most this is the most mainstream uh sort of emotionality that we've we've I hate that word emotionality, but here we go.

[55:37] Ken Wulf Clark: That's fine, yeah.

[55:38] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh Arthur and Camelot.

[55:43] Amber Brzezinski: Oh yeah, that's an that's an intense one, too.

[55:47] Ken Wulf Clark: It is the role of my heart, I really think. I've done it three times. Uh it I've done it once when I was 25, once when I was about 30, and I did it this summer when I was 36 years old. And it has every single time been the most physically and vocally challenging role I've ever played.

[56:05] Amber Brzezinski: Sure.

[56:06] Ken Wulf Clark: Uh the not because of the singing, but because the speeches and the yelling and the and the intensity and yeah, you have vocal burnout essentially at the end.

[56:14] Amber Brzezinski: Oh my god, and falling out of that tree and doing those sword fights, and you know, it's just it and you're never off stage, dude. It is it is it is awesome.

[56:22] Ken Wulf Clark: But at the end, spoilers if you don't know the story of Arthur, but shame on you if they don't, yeah.

[56:27] Amber Brzezinski: Shame on them, you know.

[56:28] Ken Wulf Clark: Yeah, right. This this extraordinary dream of democratic decision making gets shattered. He has dedicated his life, he has sacrificed his one chance at love to make this dream a reality, and it slips away from him. And the it's so good, and it's so it's such it's this this other sort of loss. It's not romantic loss, you know, it's this loss of innocence doesn't even cover it. It's this loss of hope, you know, that's so devastating to play every night. And all three times I've done it, I've had such extraordinary scene partners playing Lancelot and Guinevere. And this last time was a good Lancelot, too. You need it. I had and this these guys I had this summer. I mean, we made magic baby.

[57:13] Ken Wulf Clark: It was every night was just in the same time before it, you know. So that is specifically the end of that. And the way that we used to do, and the way that we did um uh uh uh uh what do the simple folk do. If you do that song correctly, what I think is correct, yeah. It is the saddest, most devastating look at married life in the theater canon. Yeah, it is two people trying so hard to reconnect to find the joy and ultimately realize we gave it up. There is not, yeah, yeah. It it's gone. We have this duty now, and and and we can love that and we can love each other, but that it's dead and gone. And you know, that is tough. I I think that might be part of why I'm I'm not a performer. Like I have no problem, you know, getting in front of a crowd.

I don't think I can emotionally handle it. I don't like it takes such a strong individual like yourself that you have done some extraordinary things, and you're just I mean, I don't want to say you're just getting started, but like you're still young. You have a whole career in front of you, too. You know, I don't know, I don't know, not that young, you know. Ken, you're not aged out. If you're able to play Jacob Jacobson, you're fine. Like you're good. Uh like, but you know, there you do such extraordinary things. Um when you were little, did you want to be an actor? Like, what was your like when you wanted to grow up? What was your thing now? Yeah, I wanted to be an astronaut. Well, then we'll find you on an astronaut role.

I mean, but how did you make that transition? Look, I always sang, uh, you know, I I grew up in Miami, didn't go, wasn't a private school sort of situation. So publicly, still a dolphins fan. Shame. Hey, no, hey, look, we all have our crosses to bear. Um I'm gonna say you usually like pick them and then you're stuck with them, you know. You talk about the team that beat Josh Allen last time. Is that who you're talking about? Yeah, that's right. Mm-hmm. Um But uh, you know, I always sang. I I when I was in elementary school, we had a music teacher who was like, we had like a little choir in elementary school, and we had auditions during music class, and he would play like three notes, four notes, and be like, try to repeat these.

And the kids usually couldn't do it. And he got to me and he kept playing notes. I kept repeating them back to them and didn't know what I was doing, you know, and didn't know from singing, didn't know for music, didn't know nothing. And he's like, hmm, you're in, kid. Uh and uh that was the first I picked this one. That was the first inkling of like, oh, maybe something, maybe I'm good at this, you know. And I continued to sing, I continued to develop and practice, and I sang in choirs, and I you know, I ended up getting into a magnet middle school, which is an important thing. It can very help if you're in the public school system and daycare. In Miami, though? Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I ended up getting into a magnet high school.

Miami's mega magnet, coral reef senior high. Goku's. Oh my god, okay. Yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. Um, and I didn't theater wasn't on my radar until like late my my junior year. Uh, and I had a voice teacher, uh uh uh a couple voice teachers. One was Tracy Brighty, one was Mary Shiaby, who were like, listen, bud, you know, this could be a really good niche for you if you start, you know, doing this theater thing. So I quit the football team senior year, and I uh we did a production of the Mikado, which nobody does that anymore. That was a choice to go from football player to actor and then to do that show. Wow. I know. Well, the the choir department put it on, and it's technically an operetta, you know, so you know, under that guise, you know, yeah, yeah.

I played Coco, and you know, as soon as the audience started really laughing at something I did, I think I was cooked, man. I think that was uh that's it. Forget it. Forget it. I'm in. Yeah, yeah. You keep finding yourself in these like serious roles now. So do you feel like you're you would prefer like dream roll for you? Like, do you want to do something more comedic? More Henry Higgins. Okay, that's the dream role for me. Yeah, I I I love Shaw. I love Shaw. I want to do Major Barbara, I want to do Heartbreak House, I want to do all this stuff, but uh, you know, and I'm a learner and low freak, obviously with Camelot, you know, I just I love the Shrich Stimmer stuff and the passion. I mean, we're gonna just petition to have that happen after this tour.

We're gonna spend it. Hell yeah. Yeah. Let's go. You heard it here first, everybody. Now I have to ask. I have to ask. Did you audition or do any affiliation with anything for the outsiders? Because you are on a two out of three Ryan Vasquez track right now. All right, look. In the year of our old 2018. Uh I was in a workshop of the outsiders right after the last Camelot I did. I came right back and I played Daryl. Um, then went to Ryan Vasquez. Uh well, there you go. Yeah. And at the time uh Liesel Tommy was the director. She's awesome. I you know, I wish I could work with her again. Um one degree of separation between Ken and Ryan. Gosh, it's getting shorter and smaller every every day. I'm doing something that this dude has done.

Uh I've never actually met the guy. So we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna figure out a way. I mean, we only have six million followers plus on top of the Broadway podcast network. Go find Ryan Vasquez. Give him my best. Whoever sees them knows him. Shoot, you know. Yeah, that uh happy to to to pick up the slack with that he lives but leaves behind. But outsiders is awesome. And you know, yeah, obviously it's changed a lot since you know the the lab we did in 2018, and I was I was pushing the age range even back then. Um funny enough though, you're in a show that also has a cool water effect. Right. It do be raining on that guy, don't it? It do be. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, people just go bananas for that scene, man.

Bananas, they eat it up. Eat it up. If we didn't have the rain scene on tour, they'd riot in the streets. Oh yeah, and I'm sure there's times where the rain scene throw the tissues at you. That wouldn't hurt though. It'd just get, you know, blurs everywhere. But if there was like a technical, you know, poo-poo-poo and knock on wood that it never happened. Well I got the end of the game. Oh no one time. Oh, this past Tuesday in Saint Louis. Uh yeah. Oh, did they riot? No. No, they were they were great. I mean, but it's still we're still doing this scene, you know. But some water guns. We were gonna have Melissa our stage hand or I'm sorry, our stage manager, uh, with like a super soaker. Just like a buttons, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Oh no, it's fine. You know, we the the hard part was me and Lee's trying not to laugh, you know. Right. Oh no, that's that's so fun in the water. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like doing it, I'm like picking, I'm like splashing her and stuff, and like it's like uh suspend all disbelief a little harder, please. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Sorry to keep you so long. Um Amber and I have our very well-known questions. Um boy. I forgot yourself in my friend. Before our questions, I just want to like shout out Ken's stuff. I I was creeping your website the other day. Oh god, I noticed you do some cool stuff, you do some coaching, you do some public speaking, uh some things like that. So if you know you wanna get more Ken in your life, check out his website.

Kenny. I'm thinking it's um uh thank you for the shout out there. Yeah, I uh boy that w when the pandemic hit, I was like, you know what, yeah, I am a public speaking coach. Yeah, I do do uh you know, training. Like, you know, whatever's whatever can maybe pay the bills. Um, but yes, I ended up really liking it, you know. I I had a lot of fun coaching, so yeah. So it's like nice to see like your little minions go off and do good things. Oh, sure, yeah. I we I my first client who was really a friend of mine, Carly Cavilia. I did a coaching for her on her audition for the Shuck Tour. Nice, a little kind of insider trading trading there, but uh, you know, she booked it by God. Yeah, you know, yeah.

No, she's off she's under studying Daisy. Yeah, she's a stud, man. She's so good, and yeah, just love. Shout out Carly, go get it. I was gonna say, is there anybody in the theater industry that you don't like? No, I'm scared. Yep. Uh we don't have to go there. Uh uh, uh-uh. That's not my hard hitting question. I'm also gonna put your Instagram up on our banner. So we've got your website, Kevin. Oh, thanks, you guys. Uh you so Ken Wulf Clark.com, and then you can find him on Instagram at S C H M A R K one nine. An unfortunate college nickname that has clung. Uh nothing wrong with that. It's totally fine. I have some unfortunate nicknames that have still clung, so I get it. Yeah, all right.

So on to the top questions. All right. Mine we kind of already touched on a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. It's it goes along with the theme of most of the conversation. Um, but my question is if your younger self could meet you today, what do you think about what's going on in your life would surprise them the most? Uh living in New York City, doing theater as a career. I mean, it all would have been, you know, depending on how young you go. Uh, I think you would be surprised that I don't hunt or fish anymore, uh, as much as you know, I used to. I I I grew up in the Everglades kind of, you know. I drove airboats and gigged frogs and shot ducks and ran dogs, you know. It was it was a whole other life.

That's that's the South Florida life, though, I will say. Yeah, I was I was uh I was a Florida boy for sure, for sure. You know, dirty feet and burned skin, and I I loved it, but you know, I I I am grateful for the path that I have that I've has been laid before me that I've continued to follow. Uh, but I think there would be some there'd be some shock if you know 11-year-old AC was my name back then saw what my life looked like today, you know. You love it though, love it. All right, next up. All right, I'm not gonna make you cry, I promise. Um, and this can be anything. I it can be anything, it doesn't have to be theater related, it could be literally anything. Um if has there ever been a question that you've wanted to be asked, but have not had the opportunity to answer, and what is the answer?

Oh man, you're welcome. What a good question. I I wish I had known this coming in. I would have come up with something cool. That's why we don't tell you anything. Uh you know, the dreamroll thing is always nice to say because I I feel like every time I answer that question, I get one step closer to playing Henry Higgins. We're we're gonna make it happen, but yeah. Oh man, thanks you guys. I appreciate it. Anytime I see like cask and be like, can, can, can yes, we'll blow you up. Please, yeah. I mean, I just I adore that role. I know, you know, I I I really'm just happy anybody's interested in anything that I have to say. You know, that that's just the fact that you're asking me this stuff and people are listening.

That's cool enough for me, man. Uh lots I'm gonna tell you when we when we get off air, I'm gonna tell you how many people have been listening. I think you'll be a little bit uh surprised. Not diggity. All right, yeah, yeah. Uh no, I uh what question would I like to be asked? Yeah, what was it like watching the dolphins win a Super Bowl? I would like to be asked that that'd be nice one day if someone had that question for me. Okay, well, since you can't really answer that one. Um I think I'll be cold in the ground first, but you know it's nice to dream. Oh no, I'm not making that one happen. Sorry. Uh so I mean, do you have like a favorite snack or like a weird tradition that no one really knows about?

Oh, don't overthink it. Can't go wrong with Snickers bar. Yes, Snickers ice cream bar, bad as my kryptonite. Last night. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, we've taken up so much of your time. Thank you. Please, please. My pleasure. You're always more than welcome to come and hang out with us. It just anytime you want. I like to hang out with people who are good people, and you were very good people. Back at you, you guys. This was a joy. Thank you for having me. But yeah, um, we're going to uh kill off the live stream, which drove me nuts, and then we're gonna come back and we'll harass you for a little bit, guys. Please make sure you follow Ken. He is doing some extraordinary things. Follow the notebooks.

Um, the tour socials are just insane and they're fun. Oh, yeah, Catherine's killing it, man. And you can see Ken with Kyle and Bo doing all sorts of weird shit on there, and it's great. Um, and it's fun. And then you can also hear Ken sing and go, but most importantly, go support local theater, go support the show itself. If you want to go check out all the cool things that Ken does, um, if you're looking for a coach, go check out Ken WolfClark.com, Ken Wulf Clark, C L A R K dot com, or go harass him on Instagram where we do over at S C H M A R K 19. Um, thank you so much. We really enjoyed having you. Um we'll see you backstage for everybody else. Have a wonderful night. Don't forget when Broadway's dark on Monday, as we keep the ghost light burning. See you next week with the final strike collaborative. Bye everybody. Bye.