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[0:00] Jason A. Coombs: Hello, Survivors, and welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast in collaboration with Broadway World and Broadway Podcast Network. My name is Jason A. Coombs. I'm here with my lovely, beautiful, survival, survival, vivacious, surviving vivacious, superstar of a co-host. I'm gonna give you all of the adjectives.

[0:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you. I mean, you know what? We are all surviving. So I think that really, really is applicable to everything. We're talking about survival jobs, but we are all just doing the best we can surviving day by day. So I love that. Jason, how are we?

[0:44] Jason A. Coombs: Hi. What's your mic check like?

[0:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: My mic check today is like the following. I feel self-conscious about my mic. It's not like I'm recording on my computer. Alan from Broadway Podcast Network will fire us only after a month. Second of all, I'm really excited for this weekend because it's BroadwayCon. And let me say, yes. And I'm so excited to be moderating a panel with you. And I always get super emotional because we started this show out of just frustration of a pandemic and didn't think anything really of it, just doing something to keep ourselves busy and feel inspired. And now we're having this big panel at BroadwayCon. And I'm just so excited and I'm proud of us. And I can't wait to talk to our panelists. Is that what you call them?

[1:39] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah.

[1:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Our guests?

[1:41] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Our panelists, our guests. I'm feeling the same way. I'm going to echo everything you said on top of having a heat stroke here. But even though we recorded our episode with our guest, Nicholas Christopher, I was pouring sweat because we can't record with AC on or a fan or windows open. We want the best audio. So as I said, we're survivors, literally.

[2:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: But we sure are.

[2:11] Jason A. Coombs: So on top of all the good stuff and positive stuff you said, I'm also just hot.

[2:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hot. Spicy. Right? Oh, I love your nails. Okay, Barbie.

[2:23] Jason A. Coombs: You look hot. Oh my God. Yeah. Thank you. Shout out to the Barbie movie, which I don't know if I have any interest in seeing it. That can be for another day. Let's go back to our panel.

[2:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. So we're hosting a panel, which is this episode comes on Thursday the 20th. Our panel is tomorrow, Friday, July 21st at 11:15 to 12:15 PM at the Marriott Marquis Times Square in the Winter Garden Palace for BroadwayCon, which is a three-day event happening this weekend. And we're speaking with three amazing Broadway actors who made their Broadway debuts in the 2022 to 2023 season. Right? So we're talking to... Who are we talking to, Samantha? I feel like I'm talking too much.

[3:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: We are talking to Jake Peterson from Parade, Ashley D. Kelly from Shucked, and Priya B from Sweeney Todd, who's playing Joanna. And so it's just so exciting. We're so lucky. I mean, we got to see all of these shows together, which is really special, you and I.

[3:27] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. And we got to hang out with these actors. So I'm super excited. And I was thinking all three of these shows are so different and so great. I mean, they were all nominated for Tonys. Parade won the Tony for Best Musical Revival. So I can't wait to chat with them to see what it's been like to make their Broadway debut in such well-received shows, you know? It's one thing to make your Broadway debut and dream about this moment, but then to do it in a show that's a hit.

[3:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Mega popular.

[4:00] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. Mega popular and getting amazing feedback. I can't wait to see what their experiences were like. We're going to talk about their survival jobs on the way up. We're going to talk about the process and the journey and all of the fun things. So it's going to be so fun.

[4:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's going to be great. And who else is having a panel? Because not just us, right? A lot of our fellow BPN families having their own panels.

[4:22] Jason A. Coombs: We do. We do. So shout out to Alan Seales, who's going to fire us because I'm not using my mic. He has a panel on Sunday, July 23rd at 12:15 PM. He's going to be in the Empire Complex at the Marriott, and he's going to be speaking with all the women of The Cottage, which, my God, this panel has Laura Bell Bundy, Sandy Rustin, Dana Steingold, and Lily Cooper. And shout out to The Cottage, which is opening in a couple of weeks. So that's going to be really exciting.

[4:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: And then, you know, our boy, Robert Peter Paul, who has been a past guest on Survival Jobs, he has a panel on Saturday, July 22nd at 3:45 PM in the Winter Garden Palace Room. And he's chatting with past guests of ours. Also, Lennady Henao, your bad Cinderella, y'all. His panel's really focused on the art of kindness. That's what his podcast is. So we're just so excited to see our fellow podcasters and friends also killing it, also doing panels, and living their lives. So check everyone out, you guys.

[5:36] Jason A. Coombs: And BroadwayCon is such a great event. If you're a theater lover, if you're a theater performer of any level, if you're just someone who loves Broadway, it's just a great weekend to be inspired, to meet your favorite Broadway performers, to learn, right? You're going to get an education. You're going to, like, you know, go to these panels, these workshops, and have a lot of fun. So shout out to BroadwayCon. Shout out to you. Shout out to our three amazing panelists that are coming out. And shout out to Nicholas Christopher, who we're talking about today.

[6:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Shout out to Nicholas Christopher.

[6:09] Jason A. Coombs: I forgot one thing I wanted to say really quickly. Sorry, we're on a very tight time crunch, but we wanted to definitely give a shout out, which I'm not sure it's the right word, but to acknowledge the WGA SAG After Strike that's happening right now, and to send love to all of our fellow artists who are out there on the picket lines, who are fighting and demanding better compensation and better wages for their art, for their artistry, for their work.

[6:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: For their work, yeah. For sure. We're definitely sending them love, strength, and change.

[6:40] Jason A. Coombs: And you know, Jason, it's not just the actors and the writers who are out of work. Thousands and thousands of people are out of work. EAs, hair and makeup artists, costume designers, you know, the craft service folks. So there's so many people who are out of income until we can agree on something fair. So again, love, strength, and change.

[7:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes. These two dudes need to get it together.

[7:06] Jason A. Coombs: Literally.

[7:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. Nicholas Christopher, let's jump in.

[7:12] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah. So I'm so excited for everyone to listen to this episode, like I was saying. I love all of our episodes and all of our guests. Nick, really, we have seen him perform a ton. We're both super fans. And this interview just, you know, validated everything we already knew about how kind, how genuine, how smart and talented he is. He shares some really great wisdom and some really great stories. So you guys are going to love this. And also, speaking of Sweeney Todd, we're having Maria on our panel. Nick is in Sweeney Todd currently as Pirelli and covering the man himself, Sweeney. So we're just, you know, in Sweeney land this week. I would sing the high note if I thought it would come out, but I can't.

[7:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, no.

[7:59] Jason A. Coombs: I did it anyway. So yeah, Pirelli. He is incredible as Pirelli. And we haven't gotten to see him as Sweeney because, you know, we've only seen the show once, but people were raving about his Sweeney Todd. So I think everyone should get tickets as soon as possible to support and to check out our boy, Nicholas Christopher. Should I do his bio, Sam?

[8:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: You sure should.

[8:21] Jason A. Coombs: Cool. Born in Bermuda and raised in Boston. Nicholas is currently Pirelli and the Sweeney Todd understudy in Sweeney Todd. He also starred as Aaron Burr in Hamilton at the Pantages Theater. For the past 12 years, he has been a staple of the New York Broadway community, performing musicals, plays, and Shakespeare. He studied at the Juilliard School and the Boston Conservatory, where he cultivated his unique range as both an actor and a singer. His professional debut was starring alongside Lin-Manuel Miranda as Benny in In the Heights in Puerto Rico. Select theater credits include Hamilton, Miss Saigon, Motown the Musical, Lazarus with David Bowie, Shakespeare in the Park, Hurt Village, and everyone's favorite, Rent. TV credits include All Rise on CBS, United States of Al on CBS, and Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll on FX. Enjoy, everybody, and see you at Broadway.com.

[9:24] Jason A. Coombs: Literally iconic.

[9:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: See you at Broadway.com. Enjoy the episode.

[9:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: LOL that those are his select credits. They're all so iconic.

[9:31] Jason A. Coombs: Nick, welcome to Survival Jobs, a podcast. We're so excited to have you.

[9:40] Nicholas Christopher: Of course, Jason and I saw Sweeney a few months ago, and we were like, Pirelli, we need him. How fierce is he?

[9:48] Samantha Tuozzolo: Iconic.

[9:49] Nicholas Christopher: Also, when can we sneak into a Sweeney performance? Also, he's coming on Survival Jobs. Also, all the things. So, thank you. Hello. Welcome.

[9:55] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, my gosh. I'm really, really honored to be here.

[10:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's amazing. Nick, I was doing my research on you this week, and I was on the YouTubes, and I found this performance of you from Broadway Sings Whitney Houston. And anybody who knows me knows that Whitney Houston is my favorite singer of all time, and you did Save Me, All My Love for You. Incredible. Brought the house down.

[10:22] Nicholas Christopher: Save me, all my love. It's time to save me. My love is for you.

[10:37] Nicholas Christopher: For you. My love is for you.

[10:52] Nicholas Christopher: That was really fun, that performance, and getting to work with those guys on the arrangement.

[11:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, Cory Muck, right?

[11:02] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, yeah.

[11:04] Samantha Tuozzolo: Past Survival Jobs guests also. Cory was on our show as well. I love when that happens.

[11:10] Nicholas Christopher: I know. It's great. It's not easy to do Whitney, and you did it.

[11:15] Nicholas Christopher: No, that's why I had to put my own spin on it. I was like, I can't do it her way. I gotta figure out a way around that.

[11:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: You killed it. You killed it. And I believe I was there that night, because that was at the Highline Ballroom. It was such a long time ago.

[11:28] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. I think Jennifer Hudson was in the audience, too.

[11:30] Nicholas Christopher: She was, yeah. I remember she walked. I used to work the door, and I remember she walked in, and I was like.

[11:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. I was like, oh, no pressure.

[11:41] Nicholas Christopher: That's amazing. Well, let's jump into our show, Survival Jobs, the podcast. Do you have a favorite survival job you've had before you started booking all this amazing work on Broadway?

[11:54] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. I haven't had a survival job in a while, thank God, knock on wood. But I'm also the type of person that will wait until the bank account is negative, and then luckily God provides, and I get a job.

[12:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[12:10] Nicholas Christopher: So my favorite survival job, I was just thinking about this, was in high school. And I would always go to the school dances and stuff, and being a whore for attention.

[12:28] Nicholas Christopher: Dancing. And this is before I knew that I wasn't like a dancer dancer. Like in my small pond, I was like, I was the dancer.

[12:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes, you were like the usher of the group.

[12:40] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Thank God there were no video cameras on phones back then, because it's probably very embarrassing. For me and my best friend, Tex, we'd always get, you know, everybody involved. And the DJ saw that and he basically recruited us as hype men to go with him to different events and get like the crowd dancing and stuff. And then we ended up DJing ourselves, me and my buddy Tex. And it was perfect because we were like 14, 15 years old and DJing Sweet 16. So it was like, it was the best. And we, you know, you get paid like 100 bucks. And back then you'd be able to stretch 100 bucks over a month. So yeah, literally, going to the movies, getting a large popcorn, sneakers. Yeah, everything.

[13:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: That sounds so fun. Do you have a worst survival job story? One that's like a little shocking? Or?

[13:36] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, like a shocking one or just a story from a moment that happened at a job? I'm trying to think. I'm really like, thank God, like, I haven't I haven't had many survival jobs other than like theater jobs. So honestly, praise if you don't have one that is, I think, sir, that would be survival jobs of podcast history.

[14:04] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, really? Well, there was one time it was literally just one time my friend was like a temp recruiter, and he needed somebody to go to some convention and sell. I get people to sign up for some streaming platform that I don't even remember. And I don't even know who really exists anymore. And yeah, I was like, y'all just sign up, sign your email here. And you can block us later. Just sign up. And it was not it did not go too well.

[14:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're like, just sign up. Please. I gotta get paid.

[14:52] Nicholas Christopher: Just to keep it going. Please. Sales jobs are tough. And then they get paid for another like six months. And I was like, Oh, so why the hell do I even do this? I need this money now.

[15:04] Nicholas Christopher: Six months. Yeah. And it was like, $150. Like, it probably wasn't even like a significant amount of money to be waiting six months for that check to clear. Nah. Yeah. And then soon after that, though, was I was literally on my way out the door to go get a bartending job. And I think I have a screenshot of my bank account. It was negative $8 and like 70 cents. I was on my way out the door to go get a job. And Hamilton called. And it was like, this is back in 2016. So it was like, like, every time I have to go get a survival job, like, thank God something falls into place.

[15:51] Nicholas Christopher: Hello, Broadway. Hello, Broadway. He goes, Hamilton called. Hello, Mr. Hamilton from the grave. Thank you for this opportunity. Do you think you want to do this? And I was like, Oh, let me think about it for a little bit. Meanwhile, I was crying on the other end of the phone.

[16:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's like, it's like playing hard to get. It's like, I'll get back.

[16:14] Nicholas Christopher: I can check my schedule. Yeah. But that even happened with Sweeney. Like I was in LA. And we just closed the Hamilton company in LA. And I had like, thank God, like a couple TV things lined up. And then all of a sudden, it was just like, desert for like, almost like six months. And as soon as I was like, all right, here we go. Gonna go work at, you know, the 24 hour fitness that was down the street or Starbucks or anything. I was on my way and I was driving and then they called about an audition for Sweeney. I was like, okay. And then luckily that Sweeney started six weeks later.

[17:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh.

[17:01] Nicholas Christopher: Three weeks later, three weeks later. Wow. Yeah. That's, that's blessed. Hashtag blessed.

[17:08] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hashtag blessed. Oh. Hashtag blessed.

[17:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh. So like I said, I was doing my research and I read this really, really good article on National Siblings Day about you and your big bro, John, I guess Jonathan. Let's say John, but I don't know him. So I'm gonna call him Jonathan. And would you mind sharing with our listeners about what inspired you to get into performance? I know that kind of ties in with Jonathan and your big sister as well. So you want to share that story with us. I think our listeners will enjoy that.

[17:41] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we were born in Bermuda. Yes, Highlands. Yes, definitely. We were born in Bermuda and my dad, when we were really, really little was doing the pantomimes in Bermuda. So every year they put on some sort of musical and it's some sort of fairy tale and there's like call and response. There's like all these different traditions that come along with pantomime and it's very over the top. And really kind of British humor. And my dad is a very over the top, outgoing guy, who's a great singer and dancer and actor. And so ever since I came, like, from the time I was in my mom's belly to, you know, being one years old to like all the way up, we would go, we would see him on stage. And that for all of us really instilled in us this love of live theater, this love of creating characters.

And so then when I was seven, we moved to Boston and that suddenly wasn't there anymore. We couldn't go see my dad perform. So I got really into movies and really into like Indiana Jones and then Robin Hood. And so then I really was like pressing my mom, I really want to be an actor. So then we found this like children's theater group called Stage Right, which doesn't exist anymore. And it was just off to the races from there. It was like, I got into it. And then soon after that, my brother and my sister got into it as well. And three of us, like it really created this community. And it was our foundation for friends because we had just moved to the country. And it really helped us all come out of our shells. And it really became an important part of us.

[19:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that so much. And what was like the first show? Was it Ragtime? Is that right? Is that correct?

[19:57] Nicholas Christopher: No, Ragtime was probably the most meaningful one. That was the one that we were like, oh, we can actually do this life changing experience. But it wasn't necessarily the first musical that I did. I did South Pacific first.

[20:14] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, really? Yeah. It was a 10 year old sailor. Oh, my gosh, I remember the audition for that. It was like, I like was holding the paper in front of my face and just shaking and shaking and shaking. And I had my one line and the opening night of that the opening night, the first performance of it. I forgot my line. And I just because I was just you had one. And I have one line. And Amy get dizzy from the smell. And it just got to that point. And I was just staring at the audience like, oh, I love it here.

[20:52] Samantha Tuozzolo: And by least you remembered it now.

[20:55] Nicholas Christopher: Oh yeah, exactly. You know it now. A little bit better with remembering my lines now.

[20:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's so beautiful. You just said I looked at the audience and you said, oh, I love it here. That's so beautiful. And I just want to shout out children's theaters all around. Because I know I had an experience similar where you mentioned, this is my foundation for friends. This is where I found my friend. You know, we're talking about Ben Simpson, who never listens to this show, but we talk about him a lot. That's where I found him. You know, this is where you find your people and you find your husband. So shout out to children's theaters.

[21:30] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, I love it here. I love that. And we have to remember that.

[21:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: I would even say as corny as it sounds, as corny as it sounds like you find yourself there too. It's like with a band of misfits that you can truly explore who you are and be weird and that's okay. I love that.

[21:48] Nicholas Christopher: It's all okay. I want to jump and chat a little bit about your college audition experience for Juilliard. We have a lot of college listeners, a lot of high school listeners who want to pursue this. So can you share what that experience was like and any tips you might have?

[22:08] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, yeah. I think my college audition experience was a great one and a traumatic one at the same time. Because I was having a good time in high school and I was DJing on the weekends and dancing and playing sports and doing theater. And I was able to talk my way out of a lot of the things and not talk my way out of things. And so I didn't have great grades in high school. And later I found out that I'm really dyslexic. And it's not until I was like 20 years old that I finally take the test and they were like, yeah, you're dyslexic. And I was like, oh, well, good to know that now.

[22:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: That makes sense.

[22:49] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. And so I didn't get great grades. And so when I went to audition for colleges, a lot of the schools in the room were like, we want you to come to our school. You know, we believe in your, in your, the possibilities. And I was like, great. So I was like flying high. And then when the acceptance letters came out, I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to get accepted. When the acceptance letters came out, I didn't get in anywhere because of my grades. So whether it was Carnegie Mellon or CCM or any of those places that are attached to universities, universities didn't accept me based on my grades. So thank, thank God Boston Conservatory wasn't attached to a university. And they accepted me. And I don't know if I was on some sort of like academic probation or something for the first year, something like that, where it was, I had to really prove myself in classes and stuff.

And luckily, I got pretty good grades there. And I was able to really take my time and focus on that aspect of it. And I had a great time at Boston Conservatory and learned so much, especially about my voice and dance and stuff. But I did feel the need that I want to focus more on acting, because that's where I realized my true passion was. And although dancing and singing are fun, and I use those skills today, I want to focus on, you know, I wanted to do Shakespeare, I wanted to do Chekhov, I wanted to do these things that would really challenge me that I didn't know anything about. So while I was at the BoCo, I decided to, I decided to audition for Juilliard.

[24:55] Nicholas Christopher: I was not thinking that I would get in. And I just wanted to exercise that and get it out of my system because I always regretted that I didn't audition for it out of high school. And I mean, the process was like, it just was like nothing I had ever experienced before, where it was more about, because they do this audition weekend, once you get past the first round. And it's probably like, you know, maybe 60 people if I remember correctly. It's a bunch of people that come for the weekend and you just take classes. And I just remember the teachers being so in tune with what was happening with you, whether it was, you know, tension in your left shoulder, and then they release that. And then they have you do your monologue again, and it comes out a completely different way.

And it was such a warm, nurturing environment for that weekend. So I was like, yeah, once I had that weekend, I was like, Oh, I'm great. I don't need anything else. And then I got in and it was like, Oh, shoot. Okay, how am I going to pay for this? How am I going to get to New York? How am I going to tell my friends at Boston Conservatory? And yeah, I think because I had nothing to lose in that Juilliard audition, I was able to bring my full self.

[26:25] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that so much. Yeah, nothing to lose. Oh my gosh.

[26:33] Nicholas Christopher: That does sound fun. I wish I could be that way.

[26:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: One day, one day I'll find my inner Nick.

[26:43] Nicholas Christopher: My inner Nick.

[26:46] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm trying to do the same thing.

[26:48] Nicholas Christopher: She's like, I'm trying to find my inner Nick as well. Thank you.

[26:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: I love that.

[26:54] Nicholas Christopher: Easier said than done, you know?

[26:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay, well, let's talk about Sweeney Todd, which is why we're all here today. You're bringing the role of Pirelli to life and you're on standby for Sweeney. How incredible is that?

[27:10] Nicholas Christopher: What a man himself.

[27:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, exactly. So what's your favorite part about playing? Let's start with Pirelli. What's your favorite part about playing him eight times a week?

[27:15] Nicholas Christopher: Well, first of all, my favorite thing about playing Pirelli is that we do it seven times a week.

[27:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, I'm sorry.

[27:24] Nicholas Christopher: Because of the lovely Josh Groban. We only do seven shows a week. Thank God. Two days off. I don't even know what to do with all that time.

[27:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: Two days off. That's nice.

[27:33] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, Monday and Tuesday, we get off.

[27:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's iconic.

[27:39] Nicholas Christopher: Amazing. It's amazing. So I think, I mean, the best thing about playing Pirelli is that, I mean, I just get to go up and do goofball. And luckily, I can do whatever I want. And it's okay. And the more I lean into it, the more I have fun. The more I try to make my cast members laugh and break character, the more fun that the audience has. And I think it's a really interesting part of the show because it's so quick, but it's sort of the jumping off point for the rest of the plot and swinging. So it's nice to give the audience a bit of levity before it gets really dark. And I think another thing about it is that I never, Pirelli never crossed my mind as something I would ever play. You know, because it's normally some sort of like, middle-aged, overweight opera singer, like, you know, whatever.

And so I had, I think I had turned down the audition once because it was like, I didn't even try. I'm not even going to attempt to do that. A, because I'm in L.A. and B, because I can't sing like that. And then my brother got cast.

[29:13] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[29:14] Nicholas Christopher: And he called me and said, oh, I just got cast in Sweeney. You know, they're still looking for Pirelli. Why don't you audition? And I was like, oh, I just turned that audition down. And I was like, thinking about it and I was like, well, I want to do a show with my brother. At least I want to attempt to do a show with my brother. Because we haven't spent this much time together in years. So let's try it at least. So the audition ended up coming back around. And I put it myself on tape, sent it in, thinking like, you know, this isn't really going to happen. But if it could, it would be great. And they came back and they didn't tell me I had the part. They said, oh, would you be interested in auditioning for the standby for Sweeney as well?

And I was like, oh, man. Yeah. Hell yeah. And, you know, that's another part that I've never thought of a plan. So I was like, 60, you know, like regional production or something. So then they were like, OK, well, if you want to audition for it, come to New York. OK. And so then I came to New York and I did all of Pirelli stuff and could not sing it. It was too high. It was too. It was just not it wasn't there. And so I was embarrassed about that. They were like, fine, we'll change the keys if we need to change the keys. Don't worry about it. And then I did the Sweeney stuff and I just remember the last song that I did was Epiphany. And I just remember Bernie Telsey just sitting there and he was like, wow.

Thank God it's a good while. And then, you know, thank God I got booked and blessed and I had to figure out how to move my whole family from L.A. to New York in three weeks before we started rehearsal.

[31:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wow. Three weeks.

[31:32] Nicholas Christopher: You're like, but I'm going. I want to be there. We got to go. We got to make this money. It's either this or a survival job, baby. And this one is a little bit more. So we got to go.

[31:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh, my God. That's so good. I have to ask a question. So it might be spoilers for all of you who have not listened, but can you tell us what it's like to, like, die on stage? Like, how is that that death scene going? What does it feel like? Give us the inside scoop.

[31:57] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. So, I mean, it's hilarious to be killed by, like, probably the nicest man in show business. Josh is just literally a teddy bear. And like, he got a little mischievous side of life. We joke around a lot and. But it's cool. I mean, I get shoved in a trunk and then I feel like the lights go down so that I can climb out. It's a lot of fun. Because there's also all my cushions in there.

[32:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: That was going to be my next question. Like, what is it like in that box? Is there a breathing hole? A little nap you take in those cushions?

[32:51] Nicholas Christopher: I take my iPad in there and my earbuds and I just hang out for the rest of the act. No, that's what I tell people. Can you imagine? He's like Andy Bernard. It's like an alarm going off on your iPad. Everything goes back to the office.

[33:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, that Sweeney Todd scene. Josh Roman and Sweeney Todd. I know, isn't that crazy? When Andy has, like, the cell phone on stage and he's, like, getting a phone call.

[33:16] Nicholas Christopher: That's not Nick. He's a professional.

[33:24] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah, yeah. Maybe. But yeah, no, they're luckily there's enough breathing room in the trunk and I'm not in there for the rest of the act, but I will I will give away the theater magic. Do not do not. But that was good. That was good scoop. And I also do want to talk a little bit more about you're standing by for Sweeney. Like when you went on, I heard through the theater community, like, holy shit, everyone needs to see Nick Sweeney. Like people were buzzing. So can you tell us what it has been like? You've gone on a few times or just once?

[33:54] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah, just around 10 times.

[33:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: What has it been like when you go on for this role? And why do you also think this story resonates with audiences still? It's been done so many times.

[34:11] Nicholas Christopher: Well, the first time I went on was in, like, second week or three weeks previous around there. And I had only had like one music rehearsal back in January. So like, it was go time. And it was because Josh, like really poor Josh got so sick with how hard he was working and all of that stuff. And, you know, he would never miss a show unless it was like a serious thing. And so like, three hours before showtime, they're like, we were in tech still, we were taking a part of the show still. And they were like, um, Josh is out of the show, Nick, you're wrong. And I was like, they're like, do you think you can do it? Like, I guess we'll find out. It's either that or like cancel the show. So it's like, all right, pressure's on.

And so we started kind of putting me into the show with the rest of the rehearsal that we had that day, which is like an hour left. And I knew that I knew that once I hit, like, Pretty Women into Epiphany, that that was kind of where my bag is right there, because I studied those songs the most and everything. So there was a real like tension in the theater. And they were like, okay, well, what do you want to run? Other than certain technical elements, like the chair and stuff. I was like, okay, let me do Pretty Women into Epiphany. And they're like, great. And I knew that that would, by doing that, that would build my confidence in being able to do that that night. And I knew that would build the confidence of everybody around you. Yeah, because if everybody else is tense, then I'm, it's gonna, you know, I'm already dealing with my emotions. Let's get into it. You can't take out a whole company's emotions as well.

[36:13] Nicholas Christopher: Exactly, exactly. So we did that, like, you know, 10-15 minutes of the show, and I felt like a sigh of relief. And everybody else did too. And then I think that was the most, that night, thank God, because the character Sweeney is such a fish out of water. And he's, you know, when you have a secret, you're observing and you're hyper aware. And so being on stage that day, I was hyper aware, and hyper focused. And there were stage managers offstage with scripts. So I could go and I could read the lines, and then run back out on stage and say the lines. There were pieces of script taped to the set that nobody could see. So I could like, run over and like, look at lyrics or whatever I needed to do. And I think it was the most magical stage experience I've ever had in my life. Like I cry about it right now. Just the way everybody pulled together and the way that it happened. And not only was it, the show didn't stop, but it was a transcendent experience.

[37:53] Nicholas Christopher: It was wonderful. Yeah. I got chills. I got butterflies. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's really like a legendary. I went down to you. I'm like, where's the bootleg? I know there has to be some audio floating around like one of these chat boards. We need it. If anyone's listening and they have the bootleg, send it to Survival Jobs Product at Duno.com. Just kidding. Don't bootleg. I'm going to ban you from the theater, Sam. Just kidding. Don't bootleg at the theater. It's not a good look. We don't support that here. I was kidding, you guys. What if I'm not using bootleg? Send it to Survival Jobs. Not to me, though. I don't want to get it. Okay.

[38:46] Nicholas Christopher: Nick, you've worked on so many iconic shows besides Sweeney in the High Tamilton. Do you have like a dream role or a dream collaboration or a dream project you would like to do or you will do? Not you'd like to do. You will do one day. We're manifestors on this podcast.

[39:02] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, okay. Yeah. To be honest, after playing Sweeney Todd, I don't know where to go from here. There are things that are really cool, but to be able to get a role that's this dense, that's this, I mean, so iconic. It's like, I don't know. I don't really know what musicals are being written right now that are like this. And I really hope and pray that there is. Let me think. I guess I would love to play Cole House in Ragtime.

[39:50] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. That would be pretty amazing. It was such a pivotal experience in my life by doing the show. My favorite musical. Oh my gosh. Gorgeous. I love it. And I saw you perform your daddy's song too.

[40:49] Nicholas Christopher: That's on YouTube as well. Yeah. I just love seeing it on a female song. You killed it. It's a good one. Yeah. It's a good one to sing so lit. We're going to manifest Cole House for you. There has to be a revival of that coming out sometime soon, right?

[41:08] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. There hasn't been one in a while. Yeah. That's true. There was a concert, right? There was a concert. Yeah. I went to that. Me and my brother and my sister went to it. Oh my gosh. The reunion concert. Yeah. It was the day after we opened. And somehow Jonathan got these tickets that nobody could get. And it was from the first chords. We were a wreck. We were crying. My sister's handing out tissues. I couldn't believe it. Big sisters are perfect for that. They're always taking care of the younger ones. Shout out Vanessa.

[41:47] Nicholas Christopher: Those are the most beautiful theatrical moments where you hear one note or the lights go down or one thing happens and you just are done. That is, I think, such a beautiful part of what we all love and do. There's nothing else like it. Nothing. Literally nothing.

[42:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. We're coming down to the end of our interview. And surprise, we always end the show with a fun game. So I hope you're ready to play a game.

[42:24] Nicholas Christopher: Let's do it.

[42:32] Samantha Tuozzolo: Before we play the game, we know you're in this show seven days a week. Shout out to two days off. But are you diving into any art right now that's feeding you, feeding your soul, any shows, any books, any plays, anything you've seen on Broadway that's really inspired you?

[42:43] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. Last show I saw, I just saw a parade on Sunday. I think just the whole, how it was such a cohesive show. And everybody was in the same play. You know what I mean? Sometimes you see things and not everybody's in the same world. It was a gorgeous production. Mikaela Diamond's performance just ruined me. Ruined me. Ruined. She's 23. I always want to say that to people. She's 23. Maybe 24. Fantastic. She's absolutely fantastic.

[43:31] Nicholas Christopher: And then I just read, you know, I've been going, what did I just read? I just read two different things. I read this historical book about the Black Count. It's basically Alex Dumas, who wrote Three Musketeers and Man in the Iron Mask. Anyway, his dad was Black. And his dad was, you know, a really high ranking general in the French army back in the 1700s. And then as Napoleon scaled back all the civil rights that Black people had gotten in France during that time, he ended up being locked away in a prison for years and years and ended up pretty much dying destitute after he did so much for the country. It's a fantastic story.

[44:32] Nicholas Christopher: So that's been really inspiring to me.

[44:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: What's it called again?

[44:36] Nicholas Christopher: It's called The Black Count.

[44:40] Samantha Tuozzolo: Love that. Sounds great.

[44:41] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. It's a really crazy story. Yeah. His dad sold him into slavery when he was a kid. It was against all odds story that everybody should read and everybody should know about this guy. And then I also just randomly picked up August Wilson's King Hedley II. I was reading that and that ruined me too.

[45:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: You've been on a heavy train recently, Nick.

[45:13] Nicholas Christopher: I don't know. And it's not like I get to go to the show and have like literally this weird, dark, like crazy world of my own choosing. I don't know what that says about me.

[45:32] Nicholas Christopher: But yeah. Yeah. So I think those that I haven't picked up anything since I put down King Hedley because I-

[45:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: You need a beat. You're like, give me a beat to not be ruined.

[45:44] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. Exactly.

[45:50] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sometimes it's good to just watch a little trash TV and just veg out and not think about real life.

[45:56] Nicholas Christopher: At all. Yeah. Yeah.

[45:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Maybe some office reruns.

[46:00] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, always.

[46:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: Get the peacock.

[46:03] Nicholas Christopher: That's all my family. My family, we communicate through office memes. We don't use, we don't type anything or whatever. We just send and give off memes.

[46:14] Nicholas Christopher: There's one for every emotion, every feeling. Everything.

[46:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah. I'm trying to get Samantha on the Megastar train.

[46:24] Nicholas Christopher: I was going to say, I still have never watched The Office. Jason yells at me all the time.

[46:30] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. It's one of those things. Once you start watching it, you really can't stop.

[46:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah.

[46:34] Nicholas Christopher: Can I ask you, Samantha, just watch the Sweeney Todd episode. It's hilarious.

[46:38] Samantha Tuozzolo: I went to go see it. I was like, got to get that out of my head. It's a demon mother of fate.

[46:45] Nicholas Christopher: Straight.

[46:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wow.

[46:51] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, that was amazing. That was awesome. I auditioned for this. When did the cast list go up? Like a month ago.

[47:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: Really? They didn't call me.

[47:04] Nicholas Christopher: Who am I playing?

[47:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: I think you said that to me when we were there. I think you said, I think you were talking about it.

[47:12] Nicholas Christopher: Okay. I will do that. That will be my homework assignment before the next episode. I will watch that episode and then I will give a recap about my feeling.

[47:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. Good. There you go.

[47:22] Nicholas Christopher: I know the characters and I've seen many friends dress up as these people. Dwayne, what's his name?

[47:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Dwight.

[47:32] Nicholas Christopher: Dwight. Like a newspaper skirt I've seen. I'm familiar, but I just haven't.

[47:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: Listen, I like the drama.

[47:43] Nicholas Christopher: She does like the drama.

[47:45] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm like, if you want to quiz me on Scandal, I'll give you every, every.

[47:50] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. Yeah.

[47:53] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay. Speaking of Scandal, sorry. Sometimes you get ADD. Shout out to your stage manager, Cody, who he and I always text about Scandal.

[48:01] Nicholas Christopher: Oh, really? I was wondering where is this going? Oh, okay.

[48:03] Nicholas Christopher: That's where it's going. Does he have a Scandal? What's going on?

[48:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: We will randomly watch Scandal and be like, look at this episode I'm watching. And then we're like, why are we watching this for the millionth time? We know it's going to happen.

[48:17] Nicholas Christopher: It's so good though.

[48:20] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'll live in Shondaland and stay there. Thank you. Thank you for my ADD moment.

[48:27] Nicholas Christopher: Nick, before our fun game, last question. Can you leave us and leave our listeners with some advice for anybody who may be struggling in a survival job right now, who's wondering if they should continue doing this, if they should continue waking up early for these auditions, or it's just probably not because there's a strike happening. Being of the general kind of like, if people are just, you know, confused or trying to make it and are struggling, do you have any advice for them?

[48:55] Nicholas Christopher: I guess like what I've had to learn is control what I can control. So like during those, like the last six months of 2022, when I wasn't working, and I have a family to provide for, and, you know, bills to pay and all these things. As much as I was in a cloud of the anxiety of it all, and the cloud of not knowing who I am outside of my profession, I really, truly just had to buckle down and continue working on my craft. And as frustrating as it would be to read a script, or to write something that nobody would ever see me perform, or nobody else would ever read, it still kept my juices flowing. So that when I got back into rehearsal, I wasn't like,

[49:51] Nicholas Christopher: I was already like a well-oiled machine of breaking down scripts and by the way I kept singing so my voice was in good shape and physically I was going to the gym so my body was ready and I just had to stay ready and not knowing how long I'd have to stay ready for it was incredibly trying time so I hear I feel your pain and I hear I hear you and I see you in that struggle because it's definitely not easy but the only people that succeed are the people that stick with it. Facts. Stay sharp. Stay well-oiled everybody. Please stay sharp. I love that. This was so much fun. You're amazing. We're we are Nick Christopher fans through and through so it's such an honor to have you on the show. I'm trying to channel my inner Nick.

[50:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yeah we're just all going to channel our inner Nick. Thanks for having me. I'm really like you know I'm really excited to talk to you guys. This went by so fast. I know that's when you know it's a good one because we're like wait what did we even say and what time is it and where am I? So like we said we love to we love to always bring it back to have a little fun keep things light. Sometimes we get really deep on here so we thought we'd play a movie musical trivia game since Sweeney Todd was made into a movie musical. Let's test your knowledge.

[51:27] Jason A. Coombs: Okay.

[51:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: Don't worry we cheat sometimes if you're really stumped. Jason you want to take it off?

[51:32] Jason A. Coombs: Take it off? Yeah Jason take it off baby.

[51:37] Nicholas Christopher: Wrong podcast but it is hot in here. I'm like those watching the video I'm kind of had to keep dabbing up.

[51:44] Samantha Tuozzolo: Dabbing up. Take it off. First one the film version of Mamma Mia used songs that featured in this stage musical. Sorry I don't in this stage musical. Sorry I don't know what this says that's not written correctly. The film version of Mamma Mia used songs that were featured in the stage musical. Which popular band from the 1970s slash 80s composed music for both the film and the stage version? It's multiple choice if you need multiple choice. It's A. It's not ABBA. We know ABBA.

[52:18] Nicholas Christopher: Oh okay there we go.

[52:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: That one I got nervous I knew that one. Yes. I've never seen it but I knew that. Meryl Streep. I've only seen the first one but aren't there like seven now? How many are there? A lot. I've only seen the one with Meryl.

[52:37] Nicholas Christopher: I think there's like a couple but you know we don't need to go into all of them.

[52:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay number two. Based on a true story this musical movie is the story of an aspiring composer in New York City who is worried he made the wrong career choice while navigating the pressure of love and friendship. It's multiple choice. Do you need the multiple choice?

[53:06] Nicholas Christopher: Um kick kick boom.

[53:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: Two for two. And you didn't even get the multiple choices. I think we give bonus points for both of these because there were no multiple choice options given. Congratulations.

[53:16] Nicholas Christopher: Thank you. Thank you. I think you all would probably kill me if I didn't know that.

[53:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: If you didn't know it like from jump. Yeah it's so funny. What a good movie. True or false? Oh I know it's such a good movie. It wrecked me.

[53:27] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah right? I was in the theater. I actually saw it in the movie theater crying.

[53:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay true or false? Jennifer Hudson originated the role of Rachel Marin in the Bodyguard musical made famous by Whitney Houston in the film. True or false?

[53:47] Nicholas Christopher: Wait false right?

[53:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wait. Yep correct. False.

[53:56] Nicholas Christopher: Okay great. It was Heather Henley.

[53:58] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes yes yes there we go. Wow you're really killing it. Three for three yeah. Three for three plus two extra bonuses. And I feel like I got these questions from BuzzFeed. The wording is weird right? I feel like I'm reading it and I want to know what I'm reading. Like I said. I'm making sure we read the words.

[54:17] Nicholas Christopher: This next one like I don't know how I landed on this question. It's a paragraph so bear with me today. I think it's a synopsis. This is a synopsis and then I'll give you some multiple choice which I don't think you'll need the multiple choice. Number four. A trio of women form a music group in the 60s which leads to an ambitious manager spotting the act at a talent show. He offers the chance of a lifetime to be backup singers for a national star. The manager takes creative control of the group and eventually pushes the singers into the spotlight. However one becomes the star forcing another out which teaches them about the high cost of fame.

[55:01] Nicholas Christopher: Multiple choice.

[55:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wow you really. Okay Dina Jones watch out Beyonce.

[55:22] Nicholas Christopher: Hey watch out Beyonce.

[55:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: Bring that back that's my dream role. Yes.

[55:33] Nicholas Christopher: Oh my gosh iconic.

[55:37] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay no that's off topic.

[55:39] Nicholas Christopher: We're gonna like make this cast.

[55:41] Samantha Tuozzolo: We'll pitch it to Ben.

[55:47] Nicholas Christopher: All coming together you guys.

[55:49] Samantha Tuozzolo: Okay the bonus which you obviously don't need but here we go. This controversial actor starred as a title character in the Sweeney Todd film adaptation.

[56:01] Nicholas Christopher: Controversial I guess he.

[56:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: I know.

[56:05] Nicholas Christopher: I literally.

[56:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: I mean I watched that whole trial. Speaking of like trash TV I watched every minute of that trial.

[56:13] Nicholas Christopher: For no reason like I mean I was out of work. That's what I mean.

[56:17] Samantha Tuozzolo: I mean I was out of work. That's what I do with my time too.

[56:19] Nicholas Christopher: I watched every second of it.

[56:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'd be putting my baby girl to sleep and have like one earbud in just listening to it.

[56:29] Nicholas Christopher: Johnny Depp.

[56:33] Samantha Tuozzolo: Why am I crying?

[56:35] Nicholas Christopher: He goes controversial.

[56:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: I guess so.

[56:41] Nicholas Christopher: That was me in the Gwyneth trial.

[56:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Her skiing trial.

[56:45] Nicholas Christopher: Yikes.

[56:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yikes.

[56:49] Nicholas Christopher: Wild times we're living in.

[56:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: She won.

[56:53] Nicholas Christopher: I don't know.

[56:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't wanna.

[56:57] Nicholas Christopher: The guy just did not win because I don't think he was being accurate in his recalls.

[57:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: But she won a dollar I think right? That's what the thing was?

[57:05] Nicholas Christopher: Like she sued for a dollar or something?

[57:07] Samantha Tuozzolo: Sued for her.

[57:09] Nicholas Christopher: Couldn't even buy a pack of gum with that dollar.

[57:11] Samantha Tuozzolo: No.

[57:13] Nicholas Christopher: Well.

[57:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Congratulations. You really killed the game.

[57:19] Nicholas Christopher: You have a beautiful tie drive.

[57:21] Samantha Tuozzolo: You get a VIP invite to the season 3 premiere of Survival Jobs a podcast.

[57:25] Nicholas Christopher: Which we've been in season 2 for a long time.

[57:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: So we don't know when that will be.

[57:29] Nicholas Christopher: But when we eventually make a season 3.

[57:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're on the guest list.

[57:33] Nicholas Christopher: Sometime in the fall.

[57:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh great.

[57:37] Nicholas Christopher: I'll be there.

[57:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes.

[57:41] Nicholas Christopher: There we go.

[57:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Or like a late Sunday.

[57:49] Nicholas Christopher: Shout out to Glass House for hosting.

[57:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: Shout out to Glass House.

[57:53] Nicholas Christopher: Always.

[57:55] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm at Glass House way too much.

[57:57] Nicholas Christopher: I walk in and they have a drink poured for me ready on the bar.

[57:59] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like.

[58:01] Nicholas Christopher: You've probably seen Samantha there. She's the Glass House fan.

[58:03] Samantha Tuozzolo: I look at my credit card statement and I'm like why?

[58:07] Nicholas Christopher: Go to bed.

[58:09] Samantha Tuozzolo: You don't need any more risotto balls.

[58:11] Nicholas Christopher: No more risotto balls.

[58:15] Samantha Tuozzolo: Brandon always is like.

[58:17] Nicholas Christopher: Samantha hello.

[58:19] Samantha Tuozzolo: Would you like a Malbec or an Espresso Martini today?

[58:21] Nicholas Christopher: Like my two drinks.

[58:23] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm like how about a water?

[58:25] Nicholas Christopher: They don't have water there.

[58:27] Samantha Tuozzolo: No.

[58:29] Nicholas Christopher: Those risotto balls though.

[58:31] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh my gosh.

[58:33] Nicholas Christopher: I want them right now.

[58:35] Samantha Tuozzolo: Anna just learned you can put chicken on the flatbread.

[58:37] Nicholas Christopher: It's really been a game changer.

[58:39] Samantha Tuozzolo: Chicken and bacon for me.

[58:41] Nicholas Christopher: That's all.

[58:43] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wow.

[58:45] Nicholas Christopher: Good.

[58:47] Samantha Tuozzolo: Chili con queso.

[58:49] Nicholas Christopher: I had to eventually stop eating it because I was eating too much.

[58:51] Samantha Tuozzolo: It's heavy.

[58:53] Nicholas Christopher: We did a round table with the cost of living.

[58:57] Samantha Tuozzolo: Tony and I.

[58:59] Nicholas Christopher: They were screaming about the duck.

[59:01] Samantha Tuozzolo: I didn't even know there was duck on the menu.

[59:03] Nicholas Christopher: There's duck?

[59:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: On the dinner menu.

[59:08] Nicholas Christopher: They were saying this is the best thing ever.

[59:10] Samantha Tuozzolo: So shout out.

[59:12] Nicholas Christopher: Try the duck.

[59:14] Samantha Tuozzolo: Try the duck.

[59:16] Nicholas Christopher: That's the name of this episode.

[59:18] Samantha Tuozzolo: Try the duck.

[59:20] Nicholas Christopher: Oh man.

[59:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: Now our little glass house love fest.

[59:24] Nicholas Christopher: I love that.

[59:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: Next time we do this we should shoot it live in glass house.

[59:28] Nicholas Christopher: We will.

[59:30] Samantha Tuozzolo: We did our round table there.

[59:32] Nicholas Christopher: Let's do it.

[59:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: Nick, before we go. I'm a sweaty mess right now. Can you say where people can find you and support you virtually on your social media pages? If there are new fans of you listening in today.

[59:46] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah. So the only real social media I use is Instagram. So you can find me at you can either type my name in Nicholas Christopher or you can type in N-I-K-R-I-Z Nickriz.

[1:00:02] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's a DJ name in high school.

[1:00:04] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah that's DJ.

[1:00:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wow. That's a really good DJ name.

[1:00:10] Nicholas Christopher: I know right. How many times have I said lit today?

[1:00:16] Samantha Tuozzolo: You're not doing the TikToks? Come on DJ.

[1:00:20] Nicholas Christopher: No man. I don't know. I'm barely good enough on Instagram.

[1:00:26] Samantha Tuozzolo: That's how we feel.

[1:00:28] Nicholas Christopher: Once I'm like absolutely like rich and famous I'm throwing this thing in the deepest part of the ocean. Because it's like I'm just not good at it.

[1:00:34] Samantha Tuozzolo: I'm gonna get a flip phone.

[1:00:40] Nicholas Christopher: Yeah.

[1:00:42] Samantha Tuozzolo: Like bringing it back to the old days.

[1:00:44] Nicholas Christopher: And if you guys are just tuning in because you're a Nick fan and you don't know us yet, follow us on at SurvivalJobsPod on Instagram and Twitter.

[1:00:54] Samantha Tuozzolo: Wait, does Twitter still exist or do we use the thread now?

[1:00:56] Nicholas Christopher: Okay, I don't know.

[1:01:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: I don't know. I think I have a Twitter too but who knows what that is.

[1:01:04] Nicholas Christopher: Sorry guys, I'm like not with it today. Follow us on Instagram and Twitter at SurvivalJobsPod on Facebook at SurvivalJobsPodcast. Shoot us an email, give us some feedback SurvivalJobsPod at Gmail.com. Follow my boy Jason at Jason A. Coom.

[1:01:20] Nicholas Christopher: I never can point. Like I never can get it right. That really stresses me out.

[1:01:28] Samantha Tuozzolo: And follow me at Sammy Tutz. Nick, you're amazing this was so much fun.

[1:01:34] Nicholas Christopher: All the bonuses in the game.

[1:01:36] Samantha Tuozzolo: All the bonuses in the game. Thank you so much, thanks for having me and thanks for doing this. I think it's so important to hear that everybody who you might think made it has struggled and continues to struggle and that we're all in it together so I really appreciate you guys for doing that.

[1:01:52] Nicholas Christopher: Thank you, that means a lot. And everyone go see Sweeney Todd.

[1:01:56] Samantha Tuozzolo: Yes Lord.

[1:01:58] Nicholas Christopher: Seven times a week.

[1:02:00] Samantha Tuozzolo: We'll put all the information in our show notes at the bottom to get tickets.

[1:02:04] Nicholas Christopher: Awesome.

[1:02:06] Samantha Tuozzolo: Thank you Nick.

[1:02:08] Nicholas Christopher: Thanks for having me.