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[0:00] Mike Abrams: There's a cat over here. There's a cat over there. And the wrong one died. And the wrong one died.

[0:15] Mike Abrams: Welcome to The Wrong Cat Died, the podcast breakdown of The Cat's Atrophy. I'm your host, Mike Abrams, and today we have another amazing guest. We are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center, a reimagined production of CATS called CATS The Jellicle Ball, to bring you a series of episodes throughout the run. I'm honored to have Robert Silk Mason here with me today. Silk is an incredible dancer, performer, artist, and now magician. They are the founding mother of the Kiki Royal House of Silk and play the magical Mr. Mistoffelees in this production. So welcome to the show and thank you for joining me.

[0:45] Robert "Silk" Mason: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

[0:47] Mike Abrams: I love that you, I mean, you did some actual magic, some real magic on the show. So we'll get into that and we'll get into your Mistoffelees. But I want to start at the beginning of, before you booked this, how familiar were you with CATS at all? Did you know much about it?

[1:03] Robert "Silk" Mason: I knew like little tidbits and pieces. And then once this came about, I was like, okay, I have to actually watch the production. I was like, I'm not going to be able to see it in person. But I was like literally scavenging, trying to find out where to find it. And then on Amazon Prime, that's where I ended up watching it. And then before the auditions, there weren't like, it wasn't anything to where I was like auditioning for a specific role. It was just like, you know, it's the audition. So when I was out, cause I don't know what's going to happen or if I'll even get anything, but I was like, I have to know what CATS is about. So that's whenever that came about and I watched it.

[1:37] Mike Abrams: And which movie was it? Was it the newer one of the 1998?

[1:40] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yes. It was the, it was the 1983, I think.

[1:45] Mike Abrams: Okay. So it was the, it was a stage performance that was filmed, right? Not, not the, not the crazy one that, that made headlines in 2019.

[1:53] Robert "Silk" Mason: No.

[1:53] Mike Abrams: Okay. So you saw, you saw like CATS. You saw real CATS.

[1:56] Robert "Silk" Mason: Okay. I have never seen the movie.

[1:58] Mike Abrams: Okay. Maybe, maybe you can miss it. You're not missing much.

[2:03] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'm from one, from the previews, what I saw from the movie, I was like, I don't know if I want to see that because it looks a little creepy. And then after I heard it was creepy and weird and stuff like that, and you know, props to the, all the celebrities that were on it, but I was like, I don't know. And still to this day, I haven't watched it, but at some point I have an interest in watching it now since we're doing CATS the Jellicle Ball, because I'm just like, I want to see where everybody's interpretation is coming from. So I was like, you know, you got to have an open mind sometimes.

[2:32] Mike Abrams: Yeah. As a dancer, you probably will catch a lot more. Like I know you were trained at Juilliard and ballet because you saw the one that you watched was Julian Lynn and the movie is Andy Blankenbuehler. So you've gotten like slightly contrasting and different styles, but still very similar because it's still at the end of the day CATS, but the new movie is very different. So we'll, we're going to skip through that.

[2:55] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'm about to dive into it at some point.

[2:57] Mike Abrams: Yeah. At some point you'll watch it, but it's a, it's a different experience because it's definitely not the same and they made some choices for sure. But I want to hear about then. So you get this role, you've watched this, you know, the, the movie on Amazon Prime, but you have this ballroom background. Now you have your house, your founding mother of the house, and you kind of, how was the like process of the, here's this traditional classical, like well-known musical, but this re-imagining, like what was that rehearsal process like for you bringing these two worlds together?

[3:29] Robert "Silk" Mason: Well, one, I would say for the original version of CATS, I, you know, understood it because it was like, you know, it's literally CATS, like they're feline, fearless, faithful, and true. You know, it's like they are able to always express themselves and be themselves for who they are and step up to the forefront and just, you know, be, I would say, rubbish. And, um, you know, they just, CATS tear things apart. I have two cats now, so I know how they work really well, but as far as ballroom, you have the categories, everything is, I don't know how to say this, but, you know, soft pussy, tuna cunt, you know, all that stuff. So it's like we're always, you know, attacking also the movements within the movements.

Everything is either, you're, um, I'll say, you know, like a cat scratches himself, you're scratching yourself or you're licking your hand or something like that. Like, you know, those are the things and movements and gestures that we do on ballroom. And once we figured out how to marry that in rehearsals, it all just honestly made sense from whenever our Toronto Mari, whenever they did the first move, it was like, that's very, very cat-like because cats are also very regal, Egyptian, you know, we're here to show ourselves and make sure that everybody understands who we are.

[5:05] Mike Abrams: Yeah. The dancing is, it's such an interesting piece because as someone who doesn't know any dancing ballroom or, or theater or anything in between, it was when I saw it, I was like, this, this fits perfectly. Like the ballroom kind of, it's a, it's a catwalk, you know, like it's a runway, like it works so well to marry these two worlds together. And I thought it was like a very, very fun way to experience that and almost eliminate the biggest kind of like the joke that gets made about cats so much as it feels because they're in cat, you know, like they're in a, in a unitard and with the hair and the tail and everything.

[5:39] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah. And you're not. And so by limiting that it, it becomes more about the story and the personalities and the competition, which is what I love most about the show to begin with. And then also the backstories of like, who every individual cat is like, that's how, that's kind of how we live our, live through our lives in ballrooms too. Like, even though we're here presenting ourselves in front of everybody, Voguing, Kiki and Kakai with our girlfriends and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, we all have a life to go back to after this ball or something that we probably prepared hours for months for and days and weeks ahead of time to come and walk this ball to either get through or to get chopped or something happened and say, Oh my God, like all that adrenaline and all that rush is what we love the most.

And then that's what drives us to continue to, you know, be ourselves and, you know, be free because what better way to be yourself. And going into that too, like all of us have also talked about how our characters are us, are who we are in life. So like me, Miss Misopheles, you know, brings on Deuteronomy back in the story and that's how the storyline goes. And he reunites the community and bring everybody together. And I take that for me, it's me with my kids in my house and understanding what I built my house for and bringing the community and making sure that ballroom also, along with, you know, all the other facets of who I am, a ballroom is also what helped me throughout my life. And it could also help you in your real life and opening up my arms to all of these kids and people that want to be a part of it has been such a special time for me.

So for me to know how Miss Misopheles is and how my life is and how that also marries together from my dancing to ballroom, to my modeling and singing, even like I've never sung like this before. Any production, I've never been a part of a production before. This is my first equity contract. It's like a dream come true. And of course I'm basking in the ambience and enjoying it, but I also want to, I've always wanted people to be a part of my life, but this is a big step forward, but building my house.

[8:02] Mike Abrams: Yeah. So I want to dig a little bit deeper into one of those points that you mentioned, which is the story development, because I love the character development. So for you all, how much like backstory did you go into, into each, like you said, each character kind of is their own personality and their own person. Did you talk about it? And we'll get into the one in particular, which is your relationship with Tugger, but in general, how much of the story was, was brought into the different characters with a slightly different interpretation? Cause you are in houses, you are in these competitions, but there's still these like very deep cats backstories that have been developed over 45 plus years.

[8:37] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah. I'll say for me, I'll start with Tempris because Tempris starts out, you know, she's a femme queen. She's out in ballroom doing her thing. She's been known for who she is and, you know, what she does and tying it with Grizabella, who was the outcast of cats of the story and how she comes in, you know, she's like, this is me and this is who I am. And I'm going to always make you remember that. And once Old Deuteronomy, you know, that's this thing, it's like, it all makes sense. I don't know what, I don't want to say too much. Cause you know, everybody, I don't want to, everybody has to come and see it, but whenever he does his magic at the end, it really just ties everything in because once you see who and learn who Grizabella is throughout the play, you end up wanting to know more.

And then whenever she sings memory and it's like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm going out into, onto the ballroom floor and I, I'm just inching to get to that point of where I used to be. Like, you know, the memory of being on the ballroom floor and going to the fabric store or sewing your own clothes or going to your good, good girlfriend or gay mother or gay father's house and be like, this is the ball that I want to walk. And this is, you know, what I want to do. And watching her walk out on stage and be like, this is the memory that I want. But it's like, oh my gosh, I don't know. And then when Tillabub comes up and reminds her and then she sings the rest of memory, it just, I would say it's one of the most emotional points of the show for me.

I'm about to get emotional now just thinking about it because just thinking about how femme queens and trans women are also treated in society with that notion too. And I'm bringing that into cats. It just really shows in like how, you know, that's how you address a cat. You know, you have to learn and get to understand who these cats are.

[10:42] Robert "Silk" Mason: With Old Deuteronomy, who is Andre De Shields, being the, you know, the eldest, the regal, the deity of Broadway, first of all. Him as Old Deuteronomy was the smartest decision I feel like any production could have made because, especially for CATS, I'll say he is one of the most amazing men that I've ever met in my life. He's very nourishing, very kind. He makes sure that, you know, you're all right, but also he gets his stuff done. And being able to be a young adult and see everything that he has also been through and that he's done with The Wiz and all the other productions that he's been in, and know that I'm also standing right here in the same production as him, just watching him sing.

It's like, whenever he first, because in rehearsal, I was like, oh my God, I can't wait to hear him sing. And then whenever he makes his entrance and then he sang, everybody in the room cried. I was like, oh my God, this is the most amazing production. Just like this experience is so, so enriching. Like the fruits that we have been receiving from this has been amazing. Yeah. And you know, the reviews have been incredible. And as someone who knows way too much about CATS, I walked in and was floored by how amazing it was that you all kept the essence of CATS, but brought this new version. Like it's still, like you still get the music, you still get the story, you still get the poetry. But I love the, as someone who has spent way too many episodes arguing against Grizabella, I thought the Grizabella arc was really, really fascinating by bringing the, you know, I don't want to spoil too much, but bringing the dress out and having like the story of her house and being able to come back on stage is a much clearer picture than even the musical does.

And, you know, you get even junior as Gus and, you know, you felt that like same kind of energy and power and everyone's just cast so well. And everyone brings such a, an energy to the show that you walk out, that I walked in with the highest of high expectations. And I walked out with just, I couldn't fall asleep that night. Like I just had so much energy from, from being there and everything you all brought. And I was, you know, front and center, like we were at the tables. And so, yeah, we're dancing in front of us the whole time. It was so fun. But I would say we have to mention with Junior being on Paris is Burning, you know, he was the original, he was, he's the OG, you know, of Ballroom, like the deity of Ballroom.

And I, I will say Gus, Junior LaBeija is the most iconic elder that I've ever met in my life. He really is articulate with the things that he does and has been very open with this process to understand what Broadway and musical theater is. And I know like everybody has their own, you know, relationships and times with how they, you know, cope with this process. But I have really, really, really, really been grateful to watch his process with this, because like with everybody, you know, we all were, we all were like, okay, what this, what is this going to be? What is this going to be? And then as soon as he started his part and his role, he just, he became Gus. He is Gus. Like he, he's literally Gus. And, you know, to also be in a room with him has been such a delight.

[14:25] Mike Abrams: Yeah. He is the essence of Gus, right? He's exactly what you think of when you, when you think about it. And I loved him, but I also was like, he's not ready to go. And he's the most common choice that's not Grizabella, because I was like, you can't, you can't send him to the Heaviside Layer. He's still living his life way too much to be ready to go.

[14:44] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah. He's like, cause listen, he could do it again.

[14:49] Mike Abrams: Yeah. We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back for more of The Wrong Cat Died. So we've got to talk about the Tugger-Mistoffelees relationship.

[15:00] Robert "Silk" Mason: Because you all love him.

[15:01] Mike Abrams: Sidney James hardcore, love him so much.

[15:05] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah. And then we're, we're doing an episode with him too. So I'm excited to hear his, we're going to get his interpretation of this other half as well. So just to give you some backstory from my experience with this, this was one of the first things I learned about was about this relationship. And there's, I did my first, one of my first episodes I ever did, I dug into it because it's most of the fan fiction. It's most of the pictures drawn. It's most of the art is that combination. It's, it is, there is a deep belief that they are, there are some more relationship there. And you all lean into that more than I was expecting. As you talk, I'm going to, as you talk, I'm going to find these photos that I found online on Pinterest of Rum Tum Tugger and Mistoffelees like together in a relationship. When I was like, oh, this is a thing. This is a thing.

[15:58] Robert "Silk" Mason: It's a full thing.

[15:59] Mike Abrams: Okay. This is so fab. And you all lean into it. So did you discuss that relationship? Because like, you all kind of played into it more than I think the musical version does, even the musical version has some pieces to it, but you all really like lean into it.

[16:16] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'll say we didn't dive too much into it in the beginning because they really wanted us to focus on, you know, learning our parts in the roles and stuff like that. They were telling us like, you know, and this, we want to create a world where Rum Tum Tugger is very, you know, on his toes and on his feet and fascinated about Mistoffelees, you know, how he sings about him in a song and he's, you know, his manner is vague and aloof. You could think there's nobody shyer because his voice, his name has been heard on the roof. You know, it's like if you're in a relationship with somebody and it's like, so who is this? And it's like, oh, this is my boyfriend. Like, you know, this is who he is. It's like, you know, he's literally telling you about who his partner is.

So like, you know, they wanted to create the world around that, but the surprise didn't come until later on. So it was not interesting, but I was very, I was all for it because I was like, you know, the story, I've been hearing so much about it. And also Sidney is the most handsome man I've ever met in my life. So I was like, of course, we're not going to spoil the surprise, but I will, I did send a message to one listener after this, like, after I saw it being like, you're, you're going to like the Tugger-Mistoffelees, like, just, just wait, it's going to come to see the show in a couple of weeks. I was like, you're going to love it. They're going to be very excited to see that.

[18:00] Robert "Silk" Mason: So one of the other things I wanted to ask you about was the dance in particular, because there's for Mistoffelees, there's these, the very well-known turns, but then there's also, this isn't, you know, Joanne Lynn's choreography. This is a mix of ballroom choreography. And you do some splits and stuff with your body. I still like, I can't, I can't fathom how you physically are able to do that. But can you talk a little bit about that? As someone who was, you know, trained at Juilliard, like, as a trained dancer, like, the going into this, like, how much did you particularly work on your numbers, knowing that there's this element that a lot of people expect from the Mistoffelees number? Was that brought in? Because I know you, I saw you weave it in, in a certain way.

[18:41] Robert "Silk" Mason: Mm-hmm. So when we first started, I don't, I don't think we really got to Mistoffelees until the third workshop. And then, because I didn't do this, the second workshop that they had was something different. And then, yeah, the third, the third workshop, we dove into it. And I was understanding how everything went, because they were like, you know, Mistoffelees walks runway. And, you know, in this, in the category, and how, for me, whenever I'm battling, I like to do a lot of antics. I do a lot of turn and things like that. So they're like, we want to bring that in. And then also, you know, I have to have, I do contemporary, some jazz and stuff like that a little bit. And then we also put in some jazz setting and majorette.

I did majorette for two years when I was in South Carolina. Shout out to the elite forces of destruction. Hey, girls. But I did majorette with them for two years when I was in South Carolina. But figuring out how to mesh them with the, you know, enormous amount of times that Mistoffelees does in the regular production. And he's, you know, spreading out his magical flair throughout the, throughout the audience and on the floor. For me, like, I wanted to bring, of course, myself into it because my quirkiness within Mistoffelees pizazz, it has allowed me to really command the space in the area so that the notion of the original Mistoffelees still stays within the Barrow Mistoffelees.

[20:23] Mike Abrams: Yeah. And that was, I thought was such a, again, a cool part of that was you saw elements of it, but then I also saw you, like you, you know, we got your experience and your, you know, your take on it, which is really unique. There's a, there's a clip of me on OTA, where it's actually the night that I won, I think it's in November. And I was processing the girls that night. I was not playing. I was like, I am over it. Also, there was a lot going on at that time. So I was like, I need to also for Barrow, like it is a very big opportunity to just let off steam, like just get creative and come out and just like, you know, command the space in the floor. But there's this one clip of me walking against someone and I, and I walk up and I, and I'm so, I'm just tall.

I just be working there. I'll be in my own lane. And like, I, I like crossed and I stepped and I accidentally bumped into them. I didn't see them coming. And I like, I look at them. And as I look at them, they like literally disappear from the screen.

[21:24] Robert "Silk" Mason: So, that is a very good question, because as someone who is experienced in ballroom and comes from the ballroom scene and mixing in with the theater people, a lot of the people that listen to this show know CATS from the theater side.

[21:50] Mike Abrams: So, what is, for someone who's coming to see it, how much ballroom do they need to know? What's the stuff that they should understand walking in to really fully embrace the entire production?

[22:05] Robert "Silk" Mason: I would say the integrity of what ballroom is. Because ballroom isn't just something that you can just come into and do. It's not going to be something that you fully understand because it's also dramaturgy and terminology that people may not understand.

[22:18] Robert "Silk" Mason: Like femme queen or butch queen or female figure. Somebody's going to look and be like, what does that mean? Which I wish that they provided in the program, which is more dramaturgy on what those different things mean.

[22:42] Robert "Silk" Mason: Like also cunt or that is fabulous or fab. Those are things that they would need to brush up on. But also just the minds of where we also live within the LGBTQ community as also one with being a community.

[23:00] Robert "Silk" Mason: Like there's a lot of communities that aren't really communities, but we also like, you know, ballroom is also about family. They need to know that ballroom isn't just like something that, like I said, you can't just come and do. Not necessarily because you can be a 007 too.

[23:20] Robert "Silk" Mason: But it is also good, which I told people too. I was like, if you're not going to join my house, it's also good to also just be connected. Like, you know, find those connections within ballroom because somebody in there can either save your life.

[23:35] Robert "Silk" Mason: Somebody in ballroom can also either give you an opportunity, you know, something that or just amp your life up and give you something that you could have never even imagined. And coming in to see CATS: The Jellicle Ball and bringing the aspect of a ball into CATS, I would say, look up some things on YouTube.

[24:12] Robert "Silk" Mason: And like Junior LaBeija says in the beginning, if you don't know about ballroom or have ever seen ballroom, Google me. Google Junior LaBeija, Google Paris is Burning. I think it's still on YouTube. Yeah, I would say that like in all totality, Google Paris is Burning and Junior LaBeija, because it will definitely give you so much information on what ballroom is.

[24:38] Robert "Silk" Mason: The House of Extravaganza, the Royal House of LaBeija, the Royal House of Nino Arici, the House of Mugler, Miyake Mugler, all of those houses, you know, make sure that you do your research on houses and what the integrity of what ballroom comes from.

[24:55] Mike Abrams: Yeah. And I love that, you know, you mentioned there's the there's obviously the ballroom and the dance, but there's also the family aspect. And that's a huge part of what CATS is too, which is the Jellicles are a tribe and a family. And so it was just such a perfect parallel to bring these worlds together. And the way it turned out is incredible. And I'm glad you're getting all the props y'all deserve for it.

[25:16] Robert "Silk" Mason: It's been such a wonderful time. It's been a very emotional time. I've been crying. I've been crying. I don't even be crying during the performance, especially when Grizabella comes out and do her thing.

[25:28] Mike Abrams: Let's do the rapid fire. So if you could go on for any other Cat, whether, you know, you could sing it, dance it, just if you could go on one night, who would you want to perform as?

[25:38] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'll say either Cillabub, because I can sing. I was telling somebody the other day, I was like, I'll eat Cillabub up. I just love it. And then what else? Who else? I'll say Tumble Brutus, because Tumble Brutus has so many cool like aspects and different things that he does in the play.

[26:00] Mike Abrams: Yeah, I love that. The Cillabub whole story is fun. The whole thing. Who are your favorite and least favorite Cats personality wise? So like, who would you be good friends with? And which one would kind of bug you?

[26:13] Robert "Silk" Mason: I would say Grizabella. I would be very good, good, good, good, good, good friends with Grizabella. Because when I was younger, I was raised by my grandmother and my grandfather, and my aunt and my uncle. It was me, my older brother, my younger sister. So I've always had elders or just people that I've looked up to in my life.

[26:33] Robert "Silk" Mason: And that, you know, that has made sure that I'm okay. And then I've also been able to either take care of, I took care of my grandmother before she passed and my grandfather before he passed. And just being able to also just be there for people and family means a lot to me. But also the people that have come before me because like, you know, we can be stubborn as young kids and things like that. And I've learned a lot in life.

[26:54] Robert "Silk" Mason: And I've definitely had like, I've told you so. So like to be able to like, understand Grizabella's role and be like, also, like, in general, like, I'm just I like to be aware of where I am and the older people in the space. I don't want to say older people, but you know what I mean? You know, because you have to understand and respect them.

[27:22] Robert "Silk" Mason: Like you can't, like, you know, they weren't born yesterday. So don't try it.

[27:30] Mike Abrams: Do you have a least favorite? Which one bugs you?

[27:33] Robert "Silk" Mason: I would say, oh my God, I love Macavity. I feel like we would be good friends. But I'd be like, I'm gonna watch you girl because I'm gonna like, I don't be doing all of that.

[27:46] Robert "Silk" Mason: I don't trust Macavity. I don't be doing all of that. So, well, it's not that I don't trust them, because I'd be the one to be like, so if you're gonna do that, just make sure you give me something too.

[28:00] Robert "Silk" Mason: Just make sure that I can, you know, best in the glory. And you know, we all good. But you know, and if you need somebody to help you cover, you know, cover up, you know, I got you.

[28:13] Mike Abrams: I love it.

[28:14] Robert "Silk" Mason: We can have some fun with this.

[28:17] Mike Abrams: What's your favorite song in the show?

[28:19] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'll say Grizabella, the Glamour Cat.

[28:21] Mike Abrams: Okay.

[28:22] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah.

[28:23] Mike Abrams: So my question is, I've been trying to figure out what would you name a house if you were Mistoffelees? What would Mistoffelees' house be named?

[28:31] Robert "Silk" Mason: I wouldn't want it to be the, it probably wouldn't be the house of Mistoffelees. I don't know.

[28:38] Mike Abrams: Okay. Or is he not leaving one?

[28:40] Robert "Silk" Mason: Honestly, I was about to say, honestly, for me, even though I have my own, I don't think Mistoffelees would have his own house.

[28:46] Mike Abrams: Okay. So whose house would he be?

[28:48] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah, I feel like he would be a very big, like, leader and supporter of the community. Somebody that you can go to and they just have it for you.

[28:59] Mike Abrams: Yeah. Okay.

[29:00] Robert "Silk" Mason: You know, like he could be somebody, you know, a lending ear, a shoulder to cry on. Somebody that you could keep around.

[29:07] Mike Abrams: Okay.

[29:08] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yeah.

[29:09] Mike Abrams: So my important question is, I've argued at length that I don't think Grizabella is the right Jellicle choice. So do you want to defend Grizabella or who would you choose to be your Jellicle choice if you were picking?

[29:15] Robert "Silk" Mason: I have three.

[29:23] Mike Abrams: Okay.

[29:24] Robert "Silk" Mason: I would say me, of course, because I bring all the Deuteronomy back. So I think that, you know, I was like, girl, why not? But also, I just think that would just make too much sense. I would say Tumble Brutus because they're just a firehouse in the production.

[29:41] Robert "Silk" Mason: They do so many things that other people can't do, that I've also literally never seen before. So I would say Tumble Brutus and Victoria.

[29:55] Robert "Silk" Mason: I would say because also Victoria, she's so beautiful. They're a very big caretaker within the scene of what CATS: The Jellicle Ball is. Primo, who is Tumble Brutus, and Baby, who is Victoria. Also in my life, I feel like they have made a big impact on me.

[30:18] Robert "Silk" Mason: So I feel like if also if it were to be something in real life too, I feel like they would be the ones to be chosen.

[30:25] Mike Abrams: I love it. I love anybody that's not Grizabella chosen. So I like all three of your votes.

[30:30] Robert "Silk" Mason: I have heard people have argued on this podcast for Mistoffelees because of bringing Old Deuteronomy back.

[30:36] Mike Abrams: So there's a couple of votes for that exact reason. So I love it.

[30:41] Mike Abrams: How can people stay in touch with you on social media?

[30:45] Robert "Silk" Mason: I'll say you can find me and friend me on Facebook at Robert Mason. And then you could follow me on Instagram at @_robertsilkmason_.

[30:55] Robert "Silk" Mason: And also you can also follow my house page at the Royal House of Silk.

[31:00] Mike Abrams: We will tag everything as well as how to get tickets to the show and share everything as well.

[31:06] Robert "Silk" Mason: So this has been so fun. Thank you for coming on and sharing your experience.

[31:10] Mike Abrams: Thank you for having me. It was a blast.

[31:12] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yes. Now I got to stretch and meditate before this next show.

[31:18] Mike Abrams: I'm excited to see my family and friends and my kids. It's going to be a great time.

[31:22] Robert "Silk" Mason: I love it. Yeah. We were recording this right before between shows.

[31:25] Mike Abrams: But before your family is going to be at your production tonight.

[31:29] Robert "Silk" Mason: So you've got. So you should be the Jellicle choice tonight because everyone's there waiting for you.

[31:34] Robert "Silk" Mason: Yes. I have a group of people waiting for me.

[31:37] Mike Abrams: That is awesome. Well, this is so fun.

[31:40] Robert "Silk" Mason: So fun. So thank you. And thanks, everyone, for listening to this episode of The Wrong Cat Died.

[31:44] Mike Abrams: The podcast breaks down the catastrophe to follow along. You could subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any else.

[31:49] Robert "Silk" Mason: This is a podcast. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

[31:51] Mike Abrams: And that's The Wrong Cat Died or check our website, thewrongcatdied.com.